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Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by George Carlin on Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:23 pm

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Munster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors 
Saturday 22 October 2016
KO: 13:00
Thomond Park, Limerick

Live on BT Sport / beIN Sports

Referee Jerome Garces (France)
Touch Judge 1 Adrien Descottes (France)
Touch Judge 2 Sebastian Cloute (France)
TMO Arnaud Blondel (France)
Citing Commissioner Yves Thieffine (France)

A. Head to Head

Sides have never met in Europe.

In league play:

28 Played 28
16 Wins 11
11 Losses 16
1 Draws 1

B. Recent League Form

19 February 2016
Glasgow Warriors 27 - 24 Munster Rugby

2 October 2015
Munster Rugby 32 - 21 Glasgow Warriors

30 May 2015
Munster Rugby 13 - 31 Glasgow Warriors

28 February 2015
Munster Rugby 22 - 10 Glasgow Warriors

20 December 2014
Glasgow Warriors 21 - 18 Munster Rugby


C. Teams

Munster Rugby

15 Simon Zebo
14 Darren Sweetnam
13 Jaco Taute
12 Rory Scannell
11 Keith Earls
10 Tyler Bleyendaal
9 Conor Murray

1 Dave Kilcoyne
2 Niall Scannell
3 John Ryan
4 Donnacha Ryan
5 Billy Holland
6 Peter O'Mahony
7 Tommy O'Donnell
8 CJ Stander

16 Duncan Casey
17 Brian Scott
18 Stephen Archer
19 Robin Copeland
20 Jack O'Donoghue
21 Duncan Williams
22 Ian Keatley
23 Ronan O'Mahony

Glasgow Warriors 

15 Stuart Hogg
14 Sean Lamont
13 Alex Dunbar
12 Sam Johnson
11 Rory Hughes
10 Finn Russell
9 Henry Pyrgos

1 Gordon Reid
2 Fraser Brown
3 Zander Fagerson
4 Tim Swinson
5 Jonny Gray
6 Rob Harley
7 Ryan Wilson
8 Josh Strauss

16 Pat MacArthur
17 Alex Allan
18 Sila Puafisi
19 Lewis Wynne
20 Simone Favaro
21 Ali Price
22 Mark Bennett  angel
23 Peter Murchie


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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Pot Hale on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:31 pm

He'll regret it in the changing room but still - didn't look good from him at all.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Pot Hale on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:32 pm

Munster are going to self-combust if they don't get a rein on their energy and emotions.  Dangerous mix.


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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by stub on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:32 pm

He looked like he was too fired up and unable to control it.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Notch on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:33 pm

I think thats just the emotion of the day and the anger he feels at himself coming out. I do feel for him- he will regret it.

I still think Munster will win this. This will galvanise them even more and their pack will drag them through.


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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Rugby Fan on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:33 pm

Earls doesn't strike me as that kind of player. I'm sure he'll do the right thing by Glasgow after the match.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by theslosty on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:34 pm

Given the Glasgow player landed on his head Garces didn't have much choice - however I don't think it was a malicious tackle like Toomua's last week. Earls drove forward in the tackle, I don't think he deliberately lifted up, it's unfortunate imo.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by brennomac on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:35 pm

Given the emotion of the occasion Garces showed a lot of balls there. It was a cast iron red card, but he could have taken the easy way out and just sin binned Earls. Earls didn't do himself any credit either with his antics on the way off.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Pot Hale on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:36 pm

It may be just me but the universal pleading for penalties from scrum halves at ruck time drives me nuts.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by bsando on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:37 pm

wow, I think they should have cancelled the game really. Shame there had to be a red card but that was needlessly reckless.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by bsando on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:39 pm

Wow! That was like moses and the red sea. Huge scrum!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Golden on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:39 pm

John Ryan is a having a fantastic season

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by marty2086 on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:40 pm

theslosty wrote:Given the Glasgow player landed on his head Garces didn't have much choice - however I don't think it was a malicious tackle like Toomua's last week. Earls drove forward in the tackle, I don't think he deliberately lifted up, it's unfortunate imo.

It looked like the Glasgow player took himself to ground but think it was Earls just lifting the leg too high and putting him off balance that caused it

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Pot Hale on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:40 pm

Well the Munster pack is fired up. Demolished Glasgow there and win a penalty that Bleyendal kicks.

17-3 at 26 minutes.

Hopefully atmosphere doesn't sour - crowd getting belligerent.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Notch on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:41 pm

Golden wrote:John Ryan is a having a fantastic season

The way he's playing Moore will live to regret his Wasps move- must be pretty gratifying for any tight head to see your direct opponent subbed off just 30 minutes in

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by toml on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:41 pm

bsando wrote:Wow! That was like moses and the red sea. Huge scrum!

Haha well said

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Golden on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:41 pm

Must be a very hard game for them but Glasgow are not at the races so far

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by theslosty on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:42 pm

marty2086 wrote:
theslosty wrote:Given the Glasgow player landed on his head Garces didn't have much choice - however I don't think it was a malicious tackle like Toomua's last week. Earls drove forward in the tackle, I don't think he deliberately lifted up, it's unfortunate imo.

It looked like the Glasgow player took himself to ground but think it was Earls just lifting the leg too high and putting him off balance that caused it
I concur with that.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Pot Hale on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:42 pm

marty2086 wrote:
theslosty wrote:Given the Glasgow player landed on his head Garces didn't have much choice - however I don't think it was a malicious tackle like Toomua's last week. Earls drove forward in the tackle, I don't think he deliberately lifted up, it's unfortunate imo.

It looked like the Glasgow player took himself to ground but think it was Earls just lifting the leg too high and putting him off balance that caused it

Earls let go of him at the highest point of lifting. If he'd kept hold of the player it might only have been a yellow.

Zebo in??

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Golden on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:43 pm

Wow great work from Zeeebs. Wasn't held in that tackle

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by toml on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:44 pm

Try for me

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Notch on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:44 pm

I don't think that should be given, but if he only presented the ball then it was a definite try the next phase.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by toml on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:45 pm

Great place kicking too

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Pot Hale on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:45 pm

Yep. Hogg didn't hold him in the tackle. So any 'double movement' doesn't count.

Bleyendal on fire with his kicking.

24-3. 30 mins.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by bsando on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:45 pm

This game is gonna be epic!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by toml on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:47 pm

Great turnover from POM

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Pot Hale on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:47 pm

Glasgow not getting any rub of the whistle.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Pot Hale on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:49 pm

Kilcoyne is playing like the devil.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by toml on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:50 pm

Down to 14 men they should have taken the points

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Golden on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:54 pm

Silly from Murray there.

Munster are going to need a bit of a cushion going into the second half. They surely won't be able to keep up the intensity for 80 minutes. Not after the emotional toll of the week plus playing with a man down. Can't imagine Glasgow been as bad either

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by bsando on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:54 pm

toml wrote:Down to 14 men they should have taken the points

ahh I dunno I think they just need to ride the momentum Glasgow are shell shocked

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Pot Hale on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:57 pm

Interesting to watch Garces monitor/manage the scrum and put-in to ensure there is a scrum for the ball. I like it.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by bsando on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:59 pm

what a half from Munster! Really impressed with their attitude after the red card to then go on and keep Glasgow scoreless and score themselves. You wouldn't know they have a man missing.

I suspect Glasgow will come out with renewed purpose but they have a mountain to climb and I wouldn't be surprised if they lose.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by mikey_dragon on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:06 am

Munster are up for this mind.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Rory_Gallagher on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:07 am

Fair play to Garces, he was looking for every reason not to award that red card but had no other choice really. Good composure from him and he has been generally fair throughout this game. I feel for Earls. He totally lost his head and that scene of him kicking the cone in frustration which hit his teammates on the bench was telling.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by toml on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:19 am

Some scrumming folrom Munster. Glasgow have had to change their props

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by wolfball on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:22 am

Delighted I got up for this. Smashing match to watch with a bit of everything.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Rory_Gallagher on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:25 am

John Ryan and Tyler Bleyendaal have been the finds of the season for Munster. I know they have been around for a while but finally both are fit and firing. What a difference they have made.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:26 am

This is a supreme Munster performance but this also shows why Glasgow have never got out the group stages - they fold when the physical intensity is ramped up

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Notch on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:27 am

Am I right in saying that it's 17-0 since the red card? That is quite astonishing.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by wolfball on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:29 am

Notch wrote:Am I right in saying that it's 17-0 since the red card? That is quite astonishing.

it must be close to a record in pro rugby.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by toml on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:31 am

Finn Russell has had a howler today

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:32 am

toml wrote:Finn Russell has had a howler today

Rugby is a difficult game for a 10 when your pack is getting annihilated!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by David-Douglas on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:35 am

toml wrote:Finn Russell has had a howler today

Every single Glasgow player has had a howler today so far. Their collective 'performance' has been nothing short of a disgrace. For a professional team to concede 17 points to a 14 man team and score 0 is pathetic.
Sure, Munster have played well but that's mainly because they have been allowed to by inept opposition.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Pot Hale on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:36 am

wolfball wrote:
Notch wrote:Am I right in saying that it's 17-0 since the red card? That is quite astonishing.

it must be close to a record in pro rugby.

I'm sure Cyprus have done more.... Smile

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Pot Hale on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:37 am

The game has gone flat already.  

Glasgow should be able to make some inroads to the scoreline in the remaining 20 mins.

Townsend sounds like he has given up on the team today.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Golden on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:40 am

Zebo has been everywhere today.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:43 am

Better from Glasgow - the pack have woken up

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Pot Hale on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:43 am

And finally Glasgow get over the line.

31-10 with 15 mins to go.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Notch on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:48 am

Ronan O'Gara looks quite distraught. Hard day for him.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Munster v Glasgow Warriors, 22 October

Post by Golden on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:49 am

Sweetnam did incredibly well there. It was a sure Glasgow try.

Theyre in now anyway


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