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Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by George Carlin on Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:24 am


Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors
Saturday 5 November 2016
KO 19:35
Parc y Scarlets

Live on SC4 and BBC Alba

Referee: Gary Conway (IRFU, 25th competition game)
Assistant Referees: David Wilkinson (IRFU) Neil Jones (WRU)
Citing Commissioner: Aurwell Morgan (WRU)
TMO: Olly Hodges (IRFU)

A. Head to Head

26 Played 26
12 Wins 14
14 Losses 12
0 Draws 0
529 Points 598

B. Form

18th April 2016
Scarlets 10-46 Glasgow Warriors

19th December 2015  
Scarlets 6 - 9 Glasgow Warriors  

12th December 2015
Glasgow Warriors 43 - 6 Scarlets  

5th September 2015
Glasgow Warriors 10 - 16 Scarlets

9th January 2015
Glasgow Warriors 22 - 7 Scarlets

21st November 2014
Scarlets 19 - 9 Glasgow Warriors

C. Teams

Scarlets

15 Aled Thomas
14 DTH van der Merwe
13 Steff Hughes
12 Hadleigh Parkes [c]
11 Steff Evans
10 Rhys Patchell
9 Jonathan Evans

1 Wyn Jones
2 Ryan Elias
3 Werner Kruger
4 Tom Price
5 David Bulbring
6 Aaron Shingler
7 Will Boyde
8 John Barclay

16. Emyr Phillips
17. Dylan Evans
18. Peter Edwards
19. Lewis Rawlins
20. James Davies
21. Aled Davies
22. Dan Jones
23. Gareth Owen

Glasgow Warriors

15. Peter Murchie (105)
14. Lee Jones (38)
13. Mark Bennett (56)
12. Sam Johnson (16)
11. Rory Hughes (22)
10. Peter Horne (104) [CC]
9. Ali Price (29)

1. Djustice Sears-Duru (3)
2. Pat MacArthur (141)
3. Sila Puafisi (29)
4. Tim Swinson (83)
5. Brian Alainu’uese (1)
6. Rob Harley (144)
7. Simone Favaro (23) [CC]
8. Lewis Wynne (8)

16. Corey Flynn (4)
17. Jamie Bhatti (0)
18. D’arcy Rae (10)
19. Matt Fagerson (4)
20. Langilangi Haupeakui (1)
21. Grayson Hart (26)
22. Rory Clegg (10)
23. Nick Grigg (5)


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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by funnyExiledScot on Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:03 am

Liam Williams vs Stuart Hogg, for the title of the most World Class fullback to have graced the game, ever.

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by RDW_Scotland on Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:09 am

Apart from the fact that neither of them will be playing this game...

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by funnyExiledScot on Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:18 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Apart from the fact that neither of them will be playing this game...

Their presence will still be felt, such is the measure of these men.

Still, you make a good point.

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by mikey_dragon on Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:15 am

What's player availability like for Glasgow? The Scarlets team should be very similar to the one that played against (and beat) Cardiff. It appears that the Irish are having some players released back to them again, is this the case for the Scots?

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by RDW_Scotland on Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:20 am

I suspect Glasgow will definitely be without

Reid, Brown, Fagerson, Gray, Strauss, Pyrgos, Russell, Dunbar, Bennett, Seymour, Hogg

With Harley, Swinson and Horne potentially released back - Harley and Swinson as they may not be involved against Australia and Horne needs gametime having just come back from injury.

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by BigGee on Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:32 am

Glasgow will likely get a few players back, but not that many. Players who are not likely to be in the squad for the Australia game, or who may bench and could use some game time. There are those who are just training with the squad as well.

Horne definitely needs some game time, but unfortunately got a head knock when he game on against Treviso, so that may or may not keep him out in any case.

Hughes, Grigg and Price, who are training with the squad will come back for sure.

One or both of Swinson and Harley, who are less likely to be in the match day squad may come back and maybe one of the centres, most likely Bennett, that may depend on how fit Taylor is.

I think our team may look something like

Allen
McArthur
Pulifisi
Big Brian
Swinson
Favaro
Wynn
Harley
Price
Horne (this one is tricky, as he and Clegg may be injured)
Sarto
Johnson
Gregg
Hughes
Murchie

The bench will be whoever is left standing!

That is actually not a bad team if they can get them onto the pitch. The FH spot is the big worry if neither of the two named above are fit, then I am not sure where we go. We have that other guy who came over from NZ as well, but he has been nowhere near the squad and may well be injured as well. This could be a big problem.

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by funnyExiledScot on Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:57 am

Big Brian and Tiny Tim Swinson will be an interesting lock combination. Their respective body positions will be hilarious!

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by mikey_dragon on Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:59 am

Not that many world class players on display then, especially with NH top full-back (Liam Williams).

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by RDW_Scotland on Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:00 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:Big Brian and Tiny Tim Swinson will be an interesting lock combination. Their respective body positions will be hilarious!

I'm not sure how the number 8 will be able to bind in the scrums given there is a 4 inch difference between between where each shoulder will be pushing!

Is this not a problem that Ireland often find themselves in given how feckin huge Devon Toner is?

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by funnyExiledScot on Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:03 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Not that many world class players on display then, especially with NH top full-back (Liam Williams).

Just the NH? It's not like you Welshies to underrate your players in such a way.

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by mikey_dragon on Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:09 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Not that many world class players on display then, especially with NH top full-back (Liam Williams).

Just the NH? It's not like you Welshies to underrate your players in such a way.

Now that you mention it, Liam is a bit underrated. Who's better in the SH? Nobody as far as I can see! Very Happy

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by IanBru on Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:48 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Not that many world class players on display then, especially with NH top full-back (Liam Williams).

Just the NH? It's not like you Welshies to underrate your players in such a way.

Now that you mention it, Liam is a bit underrated. Who's better in the SH? Nobody as far as I can see! Very Happy
Topic for discussion:
Who of these four Joneses has done more of note in the Principality of Wales?
1. Tom
2. Alun-Wyn
3. Jim
4. Lee

Aaaaand... Go.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by George Carlin on Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:38 am

IanBru wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Not that many world class players on display then, especially with NH top full-back (Liam Williams).

Just the NH? It's not like you Welshies to underrate your players in such a way.

Now that you mention it, Liam is a bit underrated. Who's better in the SH? Nobody as far as I can see! Very Happy
Topic for discussion:
Who of these four Joneses has done more of note in the Principality of Wales?
1. Tom
2. Alun-Wyn
3. Jim
4. Lee

Aaaaand... Go.
You chose an American cult leader famous for orchestrating a mass murder suicide over Catherine Zeta?
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by IanBru on Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:02 pm

George Carlin wrote:
IanBru wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Not that many world class players on display then, especially with NH top full-back (Liam Williams).

Just the NH? It's not like you Welshies to underrate your players in such a way.

Now that you mention it, Liam is a bit underrated. Who's better in the SH? Nobody as far as I can see! Very Happy
Topic for discussion:
Who of these four Joneses has done more of note in the Principality of Wales?
1. Tom
2. Alun-Wyn
3. Jim
4. Lee

Aaaaand... Go.
You chose an American cult leader famous for orchestrating a mass murder suicide over Catherine Zeta?
I saw 'Entrapment' and 'Oceans 12'. Believe me, I knew what I was doing.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by St John The Enforcer on Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:48 pm

Rickie Lee Jones or Tommy Lee Jones?

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by IanBru on Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:31 pm

Teams are up in this obviously hotly-anticipated fixture...

Glasgow:
15. Peter Murchie (105)
14. Lee Jones (38)
13. Mark Bennett (56)
12. Sam Johnson (16)
11. Rory Hughes (22)
10. Peter Horne (104) [CC]
9. Ali Price (29)

1. Djustice Sears-Duru (3)
2. Pat MacArthur (141)
3. Sila Puafisi (29)
4. Tim Swinson (83)
5. Brian Alainu’uese (1)
6. Rob Harley (144)
7. Simone Favaro (23) [CC]
8. Lewis Wynne (8)

Replacements
16. Corey Flynn (4)
17. Jamie Bhatti (0)
18. D’arcy Rae (10)
19. Matt Fagerson (4)
20. Langilangi Haupeakui (1)
21. Grayson Hart (26)
22. Rory Clegg (10)
23. Nick Grigg (5)

Scarlets:
15 Aled Thomas
14 DTH van der Merwe
13 Steff Hughes
12 Hadleigh Parkes [c]
11 Steff Evans
10 Rhys Patchell
9 Jonathan Evans

1 Wyn Jones
2 Ryan Elias
3 Werner Kruger
4 Tom Price
5 David Bulbring
6 Aaron Shingler
7 Will Boyde
8 John Barclay

16. Emyr Phillips
17. Dylan Evans
18. Peter Edwards
19. Lewis Rawlins
20. James Davies
21. Aled Davies
22. Dan Jones
23. Gareth Owen
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by Eejit on Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:29 pm

Had a quick peak on the Scarlet's forum and there's no shortage of confidence. Regardless I'm going for a Glasgow win but with no bonus point.

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by cakeordeath on Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:35 pm

I can't see anything but a Scarlets win. Quite a "weak" team.

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by EST on Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:37 pm

Not a bad Glasgow team, but certainly not great. I'm most interested to see how Puafisi and Sears-Duru get on up front - that is a very large propping combo. I'm hopeful that the big Canadian can be moulded into a pretty decent player, I thought he showed up well in the last WC.

Hughes has been playing well, so good that he gets a continued run. Should be a close game, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Scarlets sneak it.

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by ScarletSpiderman on Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:13 pm

Stronger Glasgow side than I expected to be honest. But the Scarlets generally do well when Wales get a thumping, to lift the spirits of West Walians, so I think it could well be a Scarlets win.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by 2ndtimeround on Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:18 pm

Scarlets giving away 32kg in the pack, hope we can avoid to many scrums.

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by George Carlin on Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:39 pm

DTH and Barclay playing against us.

It's just Wrong. Wrong, I tell you. Sad
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by George Carlin on Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:50 pm

Yes, that is a properly huge Glasgow boiler room.

Funny even to compare the two locks:

Big Brian Alainu’uese - 6ft 8in, 135kg
Tiny Tim Swinson - 6ft 4in, 112kg
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by 2ndtimeround on Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:15 pm

George Carlin wrote:Yes, that is a properly huge Glasgow boiler room.

Funny even to compare the two locks:

Big Brian Alainu’uese - 6ft 8in, 135kg
Tiny Tim Swinson - 6ft 4in, 112kg

Add the 2 Scarlets Locks and it shows just how big Brian Alainu'uese is.

David Bullbring - 6'6" and 113kg
Tom Price - 6'8" and 115kg

Incidentally "Tiny Tim Swinson" is listed at 117kg on Wikipedia which would would have him as heavier than both our boys!
I think it could be a long game for our front 5 if Glasgow manage to utilise that extra weight.

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by George Carlin on Sat Nov 05, 2016 5:33 pm

Just looking again.

That is a surprisingly decent Glasgow team in the circumstances. Normally we are absolutely decimated come AI time. Admittedly a lot of that is down to the fact that Swinson and Bennett really should be in the Scotland squad right now. I understand if we are trying Huw Jones instead of Bennett, but Porcelain Gilchrist has done nothing to suggest he should leapfrog Tiny.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by George Carlin on Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:55 pm

7-0 Scarlets
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by TJ on Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:58 pm

Glasgow do look like a bunch of strangers and Horne is lying really deep. Glasgow are dominating territory and possession tho

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by TJ on Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:59 pm

scarlets seem to have adopted the "Jim Jeffries" off side line '-)

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by TJ on Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:05 pm

Glasgow camped on the line, Starlets give away multiple pens, Yellow card, glasgow bollox the next maul

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by TJ on Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:16 pm

Scarlets really trying the refs patience here.  gonna be another yellow unless they clear the ruck area quicker. Glasgow miss another pen! 7-3

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by cakeordeath on Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:24 pm

Glasgow looking as if they could play all weekend and not score a try. Very Scotland like

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by George Carlin on Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:37 pm

14-3 Scarlets Shocked
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by George Carlin on Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:56 pm

27-3 Scarlets. I think I'll stop following the live feed now. Cry
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by EWT Spoons on Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:00 pm

Glasgow need to sort their discipline.

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by George Carlin on Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:25 pm

27-3. If only we could be a bit more like Edinburgh...
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by TJ on Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:08 pm

Has someone swapped the shirts over - 'cos that was

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by Eejit on Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:18 pm

Dreadful. And on the other side, the Paddy's beat the All Blacks.

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by miaow on Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:36 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Stronger Glasgow side than I expected to be honest.  But the Scarlets generally do well when Wales get a thumping, to lift the spirits of West Walians, so I think it could well be a Scarlets win.

Depressingly prescient.

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by mikey_dragon on Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:26 am

Sounds like Boyde showed up well again, is he a 7 or an 8?

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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November

Post by ScarletSpiderman on Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:05 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Sounds like Boyde showed up well again, is he a 7 or an 8?

I think he is naturally an openside. However, he did really well at 8.
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