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Post by rosbif on Thu 24 Nov 2016, 5:14 pm

I read some where on the internet that the owner of Montpellier a French/Syrian billionaire was in talks to buy Gloucester. Any one else heard this ?

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Post by HongKongCherry on Fri 25 Nov 2016, 7:59 am

We've briefly discussed it on another thread. It appears to be at advanced stages, however, for this to go ahead we'd need the EPRC, PRL, RFU and the FFR to ratify the deal due to a possible conflict of interest. I've heard from various sources that the deal is either done or dead in the water, so quite frankly who knows?! My gut feel is this will happen as Glaws made a statement earlier in the week regarding talks and I'd doubt they would have done this if it was going to fall at the first hurdle.
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Post by Exiledinborders on Wed 07 Dec 2016, 11:32 pm

A bit more about this on the BBC website.

It says it must be approved by five governing bodies. presumably they are PRL, RFU, LNR, FFR and World Rugby.

It seems a bit odd that special permission is needed for two teams to have common ownership and play in separate domestic leagues when four Irish teams have common ownership and two Scottish teams have common ownership and play in the same league.

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Post by Munchkin on Wed 07 Dec 2016, 11:45 pm

Exiledinborders wrote:A bit more about this on the BBC website.

It says it must be approved by five governing bodies. presumably they are PRL, RFU, LNR, FFR and World Rugby.

It seems a bit odd that special permission is needed for two teams to have common ownership and play in separate domestic leagues when four Irish teams have common ownership and two Scottish teams have common ownership and play in the same league.

What happens if Montpellier and Gloucester meet in the Euro?

Bad idea, methinks.

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Post by HongKongCherry on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 7:44 am

It's all but ratified now with just EPCR to go. As Exiled points out the precedent has already been set, so it would be very difficult to deny this. Should Montpellier and Glaws meet, which is unlikely to happen often, there would only be an issue if a certain result saw both sides progress and the chances of that happening are minimal; this could easily be overcome by ensuring should we meet in a group we do not play each other last.

It seems that when the takeover happens Castle Grim will be renamed. Kingsholm will be retained in the title, but Altrad will be added somewhere.
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Post by marty2086 on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 10:04 am

Exiledinborders wrote:A bit more about this on the BBC website.

It says it must be approved by five governing bodies. presumably they are PRL, RFU, LNR, FFR and World Rugby.

It seems a bit odd that special permission is needed for two teams to have common ownership and play in separate domestic leagues when four Irish teams have common ownership and two Scottish teams have common ownership and play in the same league.

Nope Irish teams are owned by their respective branches

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Post by Exiledinborders on Fri 16 Dec 2016, 3:20 pm

marty2086 wrote:
Exiledinborders wrote:A bit more about this on the BBC website.

It says it must be approved by five governing bodies. presumably they are PRL, RFU, LNR, FFR and World Rugby.

It seems a bit odd that special permission is needed for two teams to have common ownership and play in separate domestic leagues when four Irish teams have common ownership and two Scottish teams have common ownership and play in the same league.

Nope Irish teams are owned by their respective branches
The branches are just that - branches. They are owned and controlled by the IRFU. Based on your logic Gloucester and Montpellier can argue that they are separate branches of Mohed Altrad's rugby empire.



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Post by marty2086 on Fri 16 Dec 2016, 4:15 pm

Exiledinborders wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
Exiledinborders wrote:A bit more about this on the BBC website.

It says it must be approved by five governing bodies. presumably they are PRL, RFU, LNR, FFR and World Rugby.

It seems a bit odd that special permission is needed for two teams to have common ownership and play in separate domestic leagues when four Irish teams have common ownership and two Scottish teams have common ownership and play in the same league.

Nope Irish teams are owned by their respective branches
The branches are just that - branches. They are owned and controlled by the IRFU. Based on your logic Gloucester and Montpellier can argue that they are separate branches of Mohed Altrad's rugby empire.



And where are the IRFU listed as owners?

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Post by SecretFly on Fri 16 Dec 2016, 6:16 pm

Exiledinborders wrote:A bit more about this on the BBC website.

It says it must be approved by five governing bodies. presumably they are PRL, RFU, LNR, FFR and World Rugby.

It seems a bit odd that special permission is needed for two teams to have common ownership and play in separate domestic leagues when four Irish teams have common ownership and two Scottish teams have common ownership and play in the same league.

Yeah. If the deal is sanctioned, there goes another long term criticism of the 'Irish way' into the bin. Of course a Union is still a conglomerate of people and so not exactly One owner.... whilst this French/Syrian billionaire is a single human being. So I'd still say he's more likely to be in a theoretical position of influencing where one team might do things to assist another. One Boss, one lawgiver, one nod and wink to the minions.

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Post by marty2086 on Fri 16 Dec 2016, 9:08 pm

SecretFly wrote:
Exiledinborders wrote:A bit more about this on the BBC website.

It says it must be approved by five governing bodies. presumably they are PRL, RFU, LNR, FFR and World Rugby.

It seems a bit odd that special permission is needed for two teams to have common ownership and play in separate domestic leagues when four Irish teams have common ownership and two Scottish teams have common ownership and play in the same league.

Yeah.  If the deal is sanctioned, there goes another long term criticism of the 'Irish way' into the bin.  Of course a Union is still a conglomerate of people and so not exactly One owner.... whilst this French/Syrian billionaire is a single human being.  So I'd still say he's more likely to be in a theoretical position of influencing where one team might do things to assist another.  One Boss, one lawgiver, one nod and wink to the minions.  

And he may shoot himself in the foot, apparently Montpellier may be playing a part in Johan Goosens 'retirement'

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