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Post by Crimey on Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:39 am

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Also, considering mine and pretty much everybody's doubts Mane has been a fantastic signing.

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Post by Crimey on Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:04 pm

I also think that Wenger has already signed a contract to stay, they're just waiting until the right time to announce it. Meanwhile things just keep getting worse.

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Post by lfc91 on Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:06 pm

With the International break you would expect to see both Henderson and Lovren available for the Everton game.

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Post by Crimey on Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:09 pm

lfc91 wrote:With the International break you would expect to see both Henderson and Lovren available for the Everton game.

Klopp did say Henderson would be available for the derby game, so hopefully, but he's had a couple of setbacks in the past.

I assume Lovren is fully fit again and Klavan has been playing well enough that it would be unfair to drop him.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:15 pm

I thought Can/Wijnaldum looked the best a Liverpool midfield has all season when I've seen them play this year - Can was excellent yesterday in particular. I'd be tempted to stick with that for a bit personally
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Post by Crimey on Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:17 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:I thought Can/Wijnaldum looked the best a Liverpool midfield has all season when I've seen them play this year - Can was excellent yesterday in particular. I'd be tempted to stick with that for a bit personally

That is by far Emre Can's best performance this season though, I really like Can but he's been dreadful this year. Even against Burnley he was pretty poor but covered it up with a good goal. Henderson on the other hand has been pretty consistently top quality. I think Can plays better in Wijnaldum's position hence why they have been competing for a place most of the season. They offer different things but Can generally plays slightly better further forward as he lacks the discipline to play in the deeper role.

I can't help but feel Can looked better because he was basically competing against a very lethargic Yaya Toure.

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Post by Hero on Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:35 pm

Crimey wrote:I also think that Wenger has already signed a contract to stay, they're just waiting until the right time to announce it. Meanwhile things just keep getting worse.

When is that right time?

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Post by Crimey on Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:38 pm

Hero wrote:
Crimey wrote:I also think that Wenger has already signed a contract to stay, they're just waiting until the right time to announce it. Meanwhile things just keep getting worse.

When is that right time?

I'm guessing when they start winning games again.

I'm actually surprised they didn't do it after the Lincoln City game, but that would have looked pretty sad to be honest.

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Post by Fernando on Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:43 pm

compelling and rich wrote:yaya was pathetic, stealing a living that lad

were getting plenty of stick about pogba from city fans, how on earth they have the cheek with him in their midfield

Because Yaya is 33 and reaching the end of his career & isn't even 4th choice when everyone is fit at Citeh anymore to expect him to last 90 mins is optimistic in a fast end to end game nowadays and Pogba should be in the prime of his career yet keeps getting pocketed by various midfielders and cost £50m more then he's worth Whistle

I think that might be why he's getting stick bud Hug

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Post by GSC on Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:52 pm

I can't imagine Wenger coming back for another year, what's the point. Even as stubborn as he is, it's over
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:04 pm

I can see him signing the extension tbf - even purely from a monetary aspect of getting a pay off...ultimately it's the boards decision, not sure he should make it for them
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Post by compelling and rich on Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:44 pm

Fernando wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:yaya was pathetic, stealing a living that lad

were getting plenty of stick about pogba from city fans, how on earth they have the cheek with him in their midfield

Because Yaya is 33 and reaching the end of his career & isn't even 4th choice when everyone is fit at Citeh anymore to expect him to last 90 mins is optimistic in a fast end to end game nowadays and Pogba should be in the prime of his career yet keeps getting pocketed by various midfielders and cost £50m more then he's worth Whistle

I think that might be why he's getting stick bud Hug

fernando, delph are not over yaya. gundogen (who's a massive sick note) and fernadinho are so he's third choice as a centre mid and on one of the highest wages at the club. yesterday was nothing to do with his age, he was that slow at tracking back at 28. its merely a mind set with him, he just couldn't be bothered. it was a horrendous performance. pogba hasnt been close to yayas performance yesterday even with some really poor ones in there.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:33 am

Grasping. Why should Pogba get stick if Yaya doesn't Sad

Nando has it pretty nailed. Yaya is on the downhill path of his career and has also been there and done it. Pogba has just been bought for an astronomical fee and thinks he's the best player in the world

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Post by Hero on Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:01 am

With Pogba he just really needs to gain some form of consistency though I do note that of late Mourinho has been reverting back to earlier in the season formations in which Pogba also wasn’t particularly great. Pogba’s actually got 8 MOTMs this season so when he’s in form he’s bossing games, it’s just when he’s not he’s pretty dire.

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Post by GSC on Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:23 am

Problem for Pogba is you don't have much room for error given his price tag.

Can't forget he's coming off a summer where he had to deal with the pressure of being the face of the home nation, lost in the final in dramatic circumstances, came to United as the world's most expensive player largely without a preseason.

It's fair that he gets stick given what was paid, but also expect to see more of him next season
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:10 am

I think hes been decent, but only when protected. Soon he wont be able to get away with being protected

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Re: 5000-1 - The 2016/17 Premier League thread

Post by Crimey on Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:52 pm

https://twitter.com/matt5cott/status/843955729405042688

Rumours coming out that support what I said the other day.

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Post by Crimey on Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:18 am

West Ham are interested in taking on Rooney apparently.

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