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Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by George Carlin on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 10:05 am

         
Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors
Saturday 10 December 2016
KO: 16:15
Stade Yves-Du-Manoir

Live on beIN Sports / BT Sport

Referee: JP Doyle (England)
Assistant Referees: John Meredith (England), Wayne Falla (England)
TMO: Trevor Fisher (England)

A. Head to Head

Played 2, Racing Won 1, Glasgow Won 1

B. Recent Form

Saturday 23rd January 2016
Glasgow Warriors 22 - 5 Racing 92

Saturday 9th January 2016
Racing 92 34-10 Glasgow Warriors

C. Teams

Racing 92 

15 Brice Dulin, 14 Joe Rokocoko, 13 Casey Laulala, 12 Anthony Tuitavke, 11 Juan Imhoff, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Maxime Machenaud, 8 Antonie Claassen, 7 Yannick Nyanga, 6 Wenceslas Lauret, 5 Leone Nakarawa, 4 Manuel Carizza, 3 Cedate Gomes Sa, 2 Dimitri Szarzewski, 1 Eddy Ben Arous
Replacements: 16 Camille Chat, 17 Viliamu Afatia, 18 Luc Ducalcon, 19 Gerbrandt Grobler, 20 Chris Masoe, 21 Xavier Chauveau, 22 Benjamin Dambielle, 23 Albert Vulivuli

Glasgow Warriors

15 Stuart Hogg, 14 Tommy Seymour, 13 Alex Dunbar, 12 Samuel Johnson, 11 Lee Jones, 10 Finn Russell, 9 Ali Price, 8 Ryan Wilson, 7 Simone Favaro, 6 Robert Harley, 5 Jonny Gray, 4 Tim Swinson, 3 Zander Fagerson, 2 Fraser Brown, 1 Gordon Reid

Replacements: 16 Corey Flynn, 17 Alex Allan, 18 Sila Puafisi, 19 Brian Alainu’uese, 20 Josh Strauss, 21 Henry Pyrgos, 22 Mark Bennett, 23 Sean Lamont


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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by sensisball on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 3:51 pm

Looking forward to watching Racing V la Rochelle tonight to see if the Parisien team's resurgence over the last couple weeks continues against one of the T14's pace setters.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by George Carlin on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 6:16 pm

Naka cannot score against us, can he? I mean, that just cannot be right.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by sensisball on Sun 04 Dec 2016, 9:48 am

Watched the La Rochelle, Racing game which finished 23 all. Racing were behind 12-3 midway through the first half but clawed their way back in with a great Nakawara try,converted by Carter, who looked near his best throughout. Big Naka went off at half time having tweaked his shoulder reaching out for his try. The Racing lineout was also dodgy throughout losing 4 or 5 of their throws. Apart from that they looked on top form.

As the game went on their back row became more and more dominant. Racing were 23-16 down going into the  last five minutes and had their replacement loose-head   binned. But they kept attacking and after sustained carries into the La Rochelle 22 eventually Nyanga burrowed over for try near the posts. This was the first time La Rochelle have not won at home this season.

So in summary: Racing lineout was poor, everything else was good/  great. The majority of their key players: Carter, Machenaud, Chavancy, Dulin, Imhoff,Nyanga, Masoe, Lauret, Ben Arous and Nakawara played well.

Not sure if Chat is injured or just being rested, as he wasn't on the bench. Also the starting tight head, 23 stone, Ben Tameifuna wasn't on the bench. However, Ducalcon had a decent game in his place.

Next week looks like being a tough day at the office for Glasgow.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by BigGee on Sun 04 Dec 2016, 12:05 pm

Leone got injured in the game, looked like whilst scoring his try and did not play the second half. You could see a shot of him on the touch line having it put into a sling.

Would it be awful of me to hope that he won't be fit for next week (or the week after!). They seem to have no shortage of monsters to replace him though.

That game last night was a cracking game and it is going to be some ask for Glasgow to get a result next weekend. Who knows though, maybe they will underestimate us.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 05 Dec 2016, 9:12 am

George Carlin wrote:Naka cannot score against us, can he? I mean, that just cannot be right.

I'm sure Tiny Tim Swinson will mark him out of the game....

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by George Carlin on Wed 07 Dec 2016, 5:24 pm

Horne out for 16 (regrettably that isn't a typo) weeks for an ankle surgery.
Hughes out for 8 weeks.

Excessively Large Brian and Rory "I cannot believe I am a pro rugby player" Clegg added to the ERCC squad to replace Horne and Sarto.

Dewey Tjiuee Uanivi, Scott Cummings and Greg/Oscar/Jeff Peterson along with the greatest ever centre called Richie Vernon, Richie Vernon are all back in the new year.

Not good.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by Hazel Sapling on Fri 09 Dec 2016, 1:09 pm

Glasgow

Reid
Brown
Fagerson
Swinson
Gray
Harley
Favaro
Wilson

Price
Russell
Jones
Johnson
Dunbar
Seymour
Hogg

Flynn, Allan, Puafisi, Brian, Strauss, Pyrgos, Bennett, Lamont

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by Hazel Sapling on Fri 09 Dec 2016, 1:12 pm

Racing

Ben Arous
Szar (C)
Gomes SA
Carizza
Naka ( Sad )
Lauret
Nyanga
Claassen

Machenaud
Carter
Imhoff
Tuitavake
Laulala
Rokocoko
Dulin

Chat, Afatia, Ducalon, Grobler, Masoe, Chauveau, Dambielle, Vulivuli

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by Hazel Sapling on Fri 09 Dec 2016, 1:22 pm

Well....I am not looking forward to this. I may only be able to watch the first 20 minutes.

I count 11 foreigners in the Racing side vs 4 for Glasgow and, on wiki, they have no French locks in their entire squad. I think this sums up the difference in payroll and priorities.

Side note, apparently Ali Williams is signed for them. Not as a player but as a "special advisor" to Dan Carter.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 09 Dec 2016, 4:56 pm

You know you're in trouble when you're playing one of the best teams in Europe and on one wing you have Lee Jones and your outside back sub is Sean Lamont.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by jimbopip on Fri 09 Dec 2016, 5:08 pm

RDW, you have to see the big picture: if anything happens to Dancer then Plan A is Hoggy to 10 and Selkirk Pixie to 15 with the fastest man in Scotland (ever) to wing. Plan B is Hogg to 13, Dunbar to 12, Johnson to 10 and Jones to 15. Unless of Course the Schlongy one goes to 13 and Dunbar and Johnson push inwards.

It's simple when you understand it.

Next week; Toonie explains the Schleswig-Holstein question, with diagrams.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 09 Dec 2016, 5:13 pm

jimbopip wrote:RDW, you have to see the big picture: if anything happens to Dancer then Plan A is Hoggy to 10 and Selkirk Pixie to 15 with the fastest man in Scotland  (ever) to wing. Plan B is Hogg to 13, Dunbar to 12, Johnson to 10 and Jones to 15. Unless of Course the Schlongy one goes to 13 and Dunbar and Johnson push inwards.

It's simple when you understand it.

Next week; Toonie explains the Schleswig-Holstein question, with diagrams.

So basically your plan A and B is to play players completely out of positions, in positions that they have hardly ever played? laughing

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by jimbopip on Fri 09 Dec 2016, 5:18 pm

You don't get the magic that is the Tombola, do you?

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 09 Dec 2016, 5:19 pm

jimbopip wrote:You don't get the magic that is the Tombola, do you?

The tombola is well and truly broken this season so far!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by tigertattie on Fri 09 Dec 2016, 5:19 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:You know you're in trouble when you're playing one of the best teams in Europe and on one wing you have Lee Jones and your outside back sub is Sean Lamont.

Half agree

The pixie is lucky to even be playing pro rugby, let alone a European game! out of interest is he lining up opposite Imhoff or Rokocoku?

feckin car crash TV that will be!

Sean Lamont though! Legend! Will defend his heart out if he comes on! Unlikely to score a try, but my god he'll try his best throughout!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by TJ on Fri 09 Dec 2016, 6:02 pm

The pixie has been playing well this year.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by George Carlin on Fri 09 Dec 2016, 8:18 pm

TJ wrote:The pixie has been playing well this year.
I'm sure he has. It's just than on a rugby pitch he looks like a pre-teen who has just been caught scrumping apples and has decided to run away.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by George Carlin on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 10:43 am

Nobody is really looking forward to this game, are they?

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by jimbopip on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 11:10 am

Actually George, I am. I think Toonie has made the decision that since this is his last chance to make a mark in Europe with Glasgow then that is the club's number one priority.
League form has been patchy at best, woeful at times, but this team today look pretty close to our best XV.
Racing will look to launch their big forwards before releasing their backs. fair enough, Harley, Simone and Batman will tackle all day to defend the gain-line. That's all we can ask of them. They won't be embarrassed but if the Racing pack get the better of them then c'est la vie c'est la guerre. After the Oz game I had an interesting talk with a couple of Wallaby types who were very knowledgeable about their team and enlightening on ours. When they asked about Ickle Jonny I found myself saying that the only thing I could compare the  esteem his teammates at Scotstoun hold him in was the way the Wallabies referred to John Eales as "Nobody". As in Nobody's Perfect. He is our captain and he is one of the best players in the world right now. Also, young Ragnar and Fraser Brown have just come out on top against the Pumas and Lelos: they won't be short on confidence.
Speaking of confidence; players like Dancer nd Hogg live for games like this.
As Simone says
WE ARE GLASGOW
WE ARE WARRIORS
WE FEAR NO-ONE

Let's enjoy this afternoon. racing may well outscore us but, hopefully, they won't beat us.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by BigGee on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 12:16 pm

jimbopip wrote:

Let's enjoy this afternoon. racing may well outscore us but, hopefully, they won't beat us.

Jim you are in danger of plagiarising the great Andy Haden who I believe quoted the following concerning our Welsh cousins

'you never beat Wales, you just score more points than them!'

Dangerous ground!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by jimbopip on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 12:25 pm

You may well be right Gee, but GC is going all Rev I M Jolly on us. I don't see us being humiliated and as long as we turn up it should be worth watching.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by jimbopip on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 12:44 pm

You know earlier when I said that Toonie was prioritising Europe this season?
Well I have just read, the usually reliable and informative Disco on On Top Of The Moon, that Sam Johnson is starting his fifth successive European match at 12 .
Now, given the Tombola's propensity to surprise us that does look like a very deliberate, premditaetd decision. In Europe we want to avoid arm wrestles against big gnarly packs so put Dunbar out one and play a 12 who can operate as what our antipodean cousins would call a second five-eighth. This allows Dunbar to get the ball in wider channels and bring the back three in and, hopefully, run the opposition fat boys around a bit.

p.s. Dylan Hartley...What a muppet.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by George Carlin on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 12:58 pm

jimbopip wrote:You may well be right Gee, but GC is going all Rev I M Jolly on us. I don't see us being humiliated and as long as we turn up it should be worth watching.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by jimbopip on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 1:02 pm

Aye, you sound happy. So happy.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by Eejit on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 3:23 pm

Jings, some tackle that.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 3:31 pm

Eejit wrote:Jings, some tackle that.

You been looking at the Sean Lamont naked calendar again?

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by cakeordeath on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 3:56 pm

Warriors playing well. Good line speed and the backs are running some lovely lines.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by cakeordeath on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 4:04 pm

Warriors in the lead at half time, and not by accident. They have played some good rugby

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by BigGee on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 4:07 pm

I enjoyed watching Favaro saying bonjour to Monsieur Carter.

Just in case he thought this was not a serious game!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by BigGee on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 4:08 pm

This is the best Glasgow have played since the Leicester game, by some margin.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by Riskysports on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 4:17 pm

Need to tidy up the line out and stop the soft penalties

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by jimbopip on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 4:33 pm

BigGee wrote:This is the best Glasgow have played since the Leicester game, by some margin.

I am more than ever that everyone at Scotstoun is prioritising Europe.
Except Simone who is prioritising Operation Get Carter.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by cakeordeath on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 5:04 pm

What a result. I thought we could maybe scrape a LBP

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by Eejit on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 5:05 pm

Racing not lost at home since February apparently. They have now. Big shift.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 5:06 pm

Well that was unexpected!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by TJ on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 5:06 pm


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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by jimbopip on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 5:11 pm

jimbopip wrote:Actually George, I am. I think Toonie has made the decision that since this is his last chance to make a mark in Europe with Glasgow then that is the club's number one priority.
League form has been patchy at best, woeful at times, but this team today look pretty close to our best XV.
Racing will look to launch their big forwards before releasing their backs. fair enough, Harley, Simone and Batman will tackle all day to defend the gain-line. That's all we can ask of them. They won't be embarrassed but if the Racing pack get the better of them then c'est la vie c'est la guerre. After the Oz game I had an interesting talk with a couple of Wallaby types who were very knowledgeable about their team and enlightening on ours. When they asked about Ickle Jonny I found myself saying that the only thing I could compare the  esteem his teammates at Scotstoun hold him in was the way the Wallabies referred to John Eales as "Nobody". As in Nobody's Perfect. He is our captain and he is one of the best players in the world right now. Also, young Ragnar and Fraser Brown have just come out on top against the Pumas and Lelos: they won't be short on confidence.
Speaking of confidence; players like Dancer nd Hogg live for games like this.
As Simone says
WE ARE GLASGOW
WE ARE WARRIORS
WE FEAR NO-ONE

Let's enjoy this afternoon. racing may well outscore us but, hopefully, they won't beat us.

I've never been one to say I told you so.... Whistle

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 5:11 pm

Tremendous effort from Glasgow.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by TJ on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 5:16 pm

Shout out to JP Doyle for a good performance as well

Special mentions for:
the selkirk pixie who I don't think missed a tackle all game and considering who he was up against thats great
Dancer who controlled well and only threw a couple of daft passes and made some good tackles
Dunbar who was immense
One price for being a sneaky bugger with his try
Zaderson who held his end up well and featured well in the loose
Tennassee Tam
Batman!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by BigGee on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 5:16 pm

Well rumours of Glasgow's demise seem much exaggerated!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by BigGee on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 5:23 pm

jimbopip wrote:
BigGee wrote:This is the best Glasgow have played since the Leicester game, by some margin.

I am more than ever that everyone at Scotstoun is prioritising Europe.
Except Simone who is prioritising Operation Get Carter.

The way the season is panning out, our hands may be forced in this as the euros are when we can have been able to get our strongest team out and our squad does not seem quite as strong as in previous years.

I am hopeful though that our league form will improve. We won't lose quite so many players in the 6N as in the AIs and some of our walking wounded seem to be close to a return. If we can get ourselves on a bit of a run now then who knows what can happen.

We had not become a bad team overnight and this just shows it!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by Riskysports on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 5:50 pm

What a great result

Was getting a bit nervous at the end

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by TJ on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 5:54 pm

Stats make scary reading! All in Racings favour bar the scoreline.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by Hazel Sapling on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 5:58 pm

That was excellent! Watching Munster game now to see how that one panned out. Thought Racing looked poor after watching La Rochelle blow it against them yesterday (the match was from last week). They really have not put it together even with all their stars.

Glasgow worked hard as a team on defence and the maul defence was exceptional (J Gray, the heart and soul of that)
- Jones I think messed up on Racing's first try to allow Roko to get the break by coming in so soon. Other than that he was excellent in making every tackle and offering himself
- Wilson, Favaro and Harley tackled themselves silly
- Everyone goes on about Furlong but Fagerson is way better in the loose. He held up in the scrum for 49 minutes before Racing swapped Naka for a (ex)steroid abusing South African
- Price and Russell were a class above Machenaud and Carter. Pyrgos will have a tough time getting his spot back
- Swinson and Reid have been maligned recently. Both worked hard and outplayed more celebrated players. Hope they can keep it up next week.

Trying to think to myself who was Racing's best player. Both wings were good. Centres were poor (I actually don't know who partnered Laulala). The pack anonymous bar maybe Claassens and the props after 50 minutes.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by George Carlin on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 10:02 pm

Whole game is here:


Suffice to say I was thrilled with this. A complete performance, really.

They were good value for the win.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by jimbopip on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 10:42 pm

May I be the first to say that it will mean nothing if we don't back it up with a win on Friday.
If we win and Munster put the Tiggers out of the running it effectively means our match against Munster should decide the group.
Halfway through the group and we still have a realistic chance of winning. Could be worse. We could be Luvvies.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by EST on Sun 11 Dec 2016, 1:57 pm

Captain Finbar of the good ship Russell was fantastic yesterday, I think perhaps the best I have ever seen him play.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by TJ on Sun 11 Dec 2016, 3:13 pm

EST wrote:Captain Finbar of the good ship Russell was fantastic yesterday, I think perhaps the best I have ever seen him play.

I agree. however he still had a couple of brain farts but fortunately they didn't cost too much.

I think he will always be that sort of player going from sublime to ridiculous and back again but yesterday his game management was good and that has been an area of weakness

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors, 10 December

Post by Riskysports on Sun 11 Dec 2016, 3:34 pm

TJ wrote:
EST wrote:Captain Finbar of the good ship Russell was fantastic yesterday, I think perhaps the best I have ever seen him play.

I agree.  however he still had a couple of brain farts but fortunately they didn't cost too much.

I think he will always be that sort of player going from sublime to ridiculous and back again but yesterday his game management was good and that has been an area of weakness

I think you are a little harsh


All players make mistakes but you highlight his like a character flaw. He actually make no more that any other 10 at the moment but you seem to think it is a huge deal

All make mistakes every game


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