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11. 26/12/2016 | 16:05 | Edinburgh Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | BT Murrayfield | BBC ALBA
12. 31/12/2016 | TBC | Zebre Rugby v Edinburgh Rugby | Stadio Sergio Lanfranchi | TBC
13. 07/01/2017 | 15:00 | Edinburgh Rugby v Munster Rugby | Myreside | Sky
14. 10/11/12 Feb | TBC | Ulster Rugby v Edinburgh Rugby | Kingspan Stadium | TBC
15. 17/18/19 Feb | TBC | Leinster Rugby v Edinburgh Rugby | RDS Arena | TBC
16. 24/25/26 Feb | TBC | Edinburgh Rugby v Cardiff Blues | Myreside | TBC
17. 03/04/05 Mar | TBC | Edinburgh Rugby v Ospreys | Myreside | TBC
18. 24/25/26 Mar | TBC | Scarlets v Edinburgh Rugby | Parc y Scarlets | TBC
19. 07/08/09 Apr | TBC | Edinburgh Rugby v Connacht Rugby | Myreside | TBC
20. 15/04/2017 | 20:05 | Benetton Treviso v Edinburgh Rugby | Stadio Monigo | TBC
21. 28/29/30 Apr | TBC | Edinburgh Rugby v Newport Gwent Dragons | Myreside | TBC
22. 06/05/2017 | 17:15 | Glasgow Warriors v Edinburgh Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC


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11. 26/12/2016 | 16:05 | Edinburgh Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | BT Murrayfield | BBC ALBA
12. 31/12/2016 | 14:00 | Benetton Treviso v Glasgow Warriors | Stadio Monigo | TBC/BBC ALBA
13. 07/01/2017 | 19:35 | Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues | Scotstoun Stadium | BBC ALBA/S4C
14. 10/11/12 Feb | TBC | Glasgow Warriors v Scarlets | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC
15. 17/18/19 Feb | TBC | Ulster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | Kingspan Stadium | TBC
16. 24/25/26 Feb | TBC | Ospreys v Glasgow Warriors | Liberty Stadium | TBC
17. 03/04/05 Mar | TBC | Glasgow Warriors v Newport Gwent Dragons | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC
18. 24/25/26 Mar | TBC | Glasgow Warriors v Connacht Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC
19. 07/08/09 Apr | TBC | Munster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | Irish Independent Park | TBC
20. 14/04/2017 | 19:35 | Glasgow Warriors v Zebre Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | BBC ALBA
21. 28/29/30 Apr | TBC | Leinster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | RDS Arena  |  TBC
22. 06/05/2017 | 17:15 | Glasgow Warriors v Edinburgh Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC


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2007–08
28 December 2007, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 35–31 Glasgow Warriors
11 April 2008, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 23–14 Edinburgh
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 54–49

2008–09
26 December 2008, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 39–6 Glasgow Warriors
2 January 2009, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 25–20 Edinburgh
Winner: Edinburgh 59–31

2009–10
27 December 2009, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 25–12 Edinburgh
2 January 2010, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 15–22 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 47–27

2010–11
27 December 2010, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 30–18 Edinburgh
2 January 2011, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 28–17 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 47–46

2011–12
26 December 2011, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 23–23 Glasgow Warriors
1 January 2012, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 17–12 Edinburgh
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 40–35

2012–13
21 December 2012, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 23–14 Edinburgh
29 December 2012, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 17–21 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 44–31

2013–14
26 December 2013, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 16–20 Glasgow Warriors
26 April 2014, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 37–34 Edinburgh  (postponed from 1st Jan due to waterlogged pitch)
Winner: Glasgow 57–50

2014–15
27 December 2014, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 16–6 Edinburgh
2 January 2015, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 20–8 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Edinburgh 26–24

2015–16
27 December 2015, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 23–11 Glasgow Warriors
2 January 2016, Murrayfield Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 11–14 Edinburgh (moved from Scotstoun due to waterlogged pitch)
Winner: Edinburgh 37–22

Winners tally
Glasgow Warriors - 6
Edinburgh - 3

Some tidying up could be required as I'm no a PC wizz!

PS - Any player from Ayr is not necessarily "World class"


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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 23 Dec 2016, 12:59 pm

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:The magic of Christmas, acted out by RDW and tattie.

So sweet.

As long as he doesn't turn up at my house next....

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Fri 23 Dec 2016, 1:00 pm

I'm fairly sure he's already under your Christmas tree waiting to be unwrapped

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 23 Dec 2016, 1:03 pm

Laugh

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by tigertattie on Fri 23 Dec 2016, 1:07 pm

no way would I fit under it raspberry
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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 23 Dec 2016, 3:50 pm

Blair Kinghorn signs a 2 year deal, putting rumours of him moving to England to rest.

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by tigertattie on Fri 23 Dec 2016, 4:25 pm

Thats actually a good bit of news for a change.

He's a solid performer for Edinburgh and in all honesty, Kinghorn must be the next in line (at least in the future) behind Hogg at 15.

I know folk will say Maitland is the understudy, which is all fair and well, but I still say he's a winger first!
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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Fri 23 Dec 2016, 5:36 pm

And the BBC are running an article with Hamish Watson saying he wants a new contract at Edinburgh. More great news and I hope something gets sorted out soon. Bradbury, Watson and CDP are cracking, young backrowers to build a team around and Kinghorn is going to be a cornerstone of our backline going forward. Now we just need a decent coach to come in and start getting the best out of them all

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38421129

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Fri 23 Dec 2016, 5:48 pm

Agreed. Great news on Kinghorn. Scotland may need him next season if the Lions break Hogg!

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Post by George Carlin on Sat 24 Dec 2016, 4:32 am

Delighted about Kinghorn and Bradbury. In a way Edinburgh was lucky that this renewal came up now, when both players are still in that 'pre-maturation' phase where other clubs may not have been able to secure the backing to poach what are as yet relative unknowns. It's the next contract renewal that will be the more expensive one for them. 

These are still very young men, remember and being able to develop in a club where they have their support network a 10 minute drive or a 19 hour-long tram ride away (delete as applicable) is very important. 

The reason that I am worried Jonny Gray might actually go to Toulon is because his brother has been in France for a few years now and presumably it agreed with him pretty well.
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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by BigGee on Wed 28 Dec 2016, 12:41 am

I watched the Quins v Gloucester game yesterday afternoon with a few of our old boys playing and it has to be said that they all played pretty well.

Jacko and Timbo were playing for Quins. Jacko seems to have crept up the pecking order recently and has started the past few games for Quins and he played the whole game. He kicked very well and got the back line moving, making one of their tries. He has picked a good time to find some form and get game time as we are really in need of a back up FH for the 6N and on the basis of the Boxing day game, Duncan Weir is not it.

Visser continues to be an enigma as he always looks better for his club than he ever does for Scotland. He always seems to be hungry and goes looking for the ball. Beleive it or not, he also made a try and possibly match saving tackle. If he ever reproduced that sort of form in a blue jersey, he would be a shoe in.

For Gloucester, GL and MS both played well also. At almost any other time in our recent history, if a centre was showing the kind of form that he is, then he would be walking into the national side. That he might not even make the squad at the moment shows what an embarassment of riches we currently possess. You would hope that he will make the squad this time, as Taylor still shows no signs of being fit. Hopefully if he does then he can put himself in the mix but it will be a tall order to get ahead of Jones, Dunbar and Bennett who are all playing well.

Good problems to have I guess.

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Post by 123456789 on Wed 28 Dec 2016, 1:32 am

The most interesting part of the quins game was the moment when the commentator described Visser as a "very" good defender following a Matt Scott chip kick toward him.

Matt Scott frequently targeted Visser during the game, Laidlaw did to an extent also. There are fewer more damning indictments of a rugby player than players who know your game inside out repeatedly targeting you. Of course, knowing each others games as they do, they'll use their experience to their advantage however the extent to which Visser was targeted displays an ever present knowledge that he is a vulnerable defender, there to be exploited.

As for Matt Scott I haven't seen much of him but his tackle attempt for what ultimately proved to be Harlequins winner was beyond dreadful against a relatively average outside centre. Any of Scotland's other centre options other than Peter Horne would have made it with ease. Add the fact that Scott offers equal, at best, ability in attack to any of the rest of him it's hard to see him regaining a place in the Scotland squad let alone the starting XV.

I used to think Weir was unlucky with injury, then I thought he just needed a run of games, then I considered the constant switching between Glasgow and Scotland coupled with the presence of Russell and Jackson hindered him. Now it's apparent that he's not quite good enough for pro rugby at the level he is asked to play.
His success I think comes mainly from his timing in the same way Ruaridh Jackson. Jackson was picked because he was not Dan Parks, when Jackson was deemed not to be the next Dan Carter, Weir was picked because he was not Ruaridh Jackson.
Dan Parks struggled to get a back line moving so it was decided that Jackson could, Jackson struggled with his kicking so it was decided that Weir was a kicking fly-half. In reality they are both at best mediocre stand offs in terms of pro rugby and neither is remotely near the standard for international rugby. They are both lucky to be the next best on offer after Russell, it just so happens Jackson is slightly better.
There is hope for Jackson yet, playing between Care and Roberts regularly with Visser, Yarde and Brown as his back three will only improve him. he has played well recently and could yet prove an able deputy. I wish I could say the same for Weir, and I hope to be proved wrong but when he looks comfortably behind Jason Tovey in terms of ability it is not good for an international rugby player. After all when Rhys Priestland was Wales' first choice Jason Tovey was nowhere near.

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Post by BigGee on Wed 28 Dec 2016, 5:07 am

123456789 wrote:

As for Matt Scott I haven't seen much of him but his tackle attempt for what ultimately proved to be Harlequins winner was beyond dreadful against a relatively average outside centre. Any of Scotland's other centre options other than Peter Horne would have made it with ease. Add the fact that Scott offers equal, at best, ability in attack to any of the rest of him it's hard to see him regaining a place in the Scotland squad let alone the starting XV.


To be fair to Matt Scott, I think it was Symons, the centre who had just come on to replace Twelvetrees who missed that tackle. We are talking about the one that came straight off the line out move?

He is playing well at Gloucester and is the leading try scorer in the league and so must be doing something right in attack as well. I think he will definitely be in the squad mix this time around. He was unlucky to miss out last time.

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Wed 28 Dec 2016, 9:55 am

BigGee wrote:Jacko seems to have crept up the pecking order recently and has started the past few games for Quins and he played the whole game. He kicked very well and got the back line moving, making one of their tries. He has picked a good time to find some form and get game time as we are really in need of a back up FH for the 6N and on the basis of the Boxing day game, Duncan Weir is not it.

100% agree. In fact I think we should be discounting Weir as an international option at 10. Laidlaw would do a better job shoe horned into the 10 jersey. The only international coach to have rated Weir was Scott Johnson. Enough said.

I've always been a big Jackson fan. He's got great distribution skills and an eye for a gap. His kicking game can be hit or miss, and I don't trust him as a goal kicker, but with the current Scotland set-up trying to create and attack a bit more, Jackson is a very nice back-up option for Finn Russell (who is streets ahead, despite the odd lapse in concentration).

I keep seeing Adam Hastings on the Bath bench. Come on lad!

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Post by EST on Wed 28 Dec 2016, 9:56 am

BigGee wrote:
123456789 wrote:

As for Matt Scott I haven't seen much of him but his tackle attempt for what ultimately proved to be Harlequins winner was beyond dreadful against a relatively average outside centre. Any of Scotland's other centre options other than Peter Horne would have made it with ease. Add the fact that Scott offers equal, at best, ability in attack to any of the rest of him it's hard to see him regaining a place in the Scotland squad let alone the starting XV.


To be fair to Matt Scott, I think it was Symons, the centre who had just come on to replace Twelvetrees who missed that tackle. We are talking about the one that came straight off the line out move?

He is playing well at Gloucester and is the leading try scorer in the league and so must be doing something right in attack as well. I think he will definitely be in the squad mix this time around. He was unlucky to miss out last time.

I'm pretty sure it was Scott who missed the tackle on Marchant, BigGee - although I haven't had a chance to look back to check.

I thought Jackson was OK, hopefully he can string together a run of games in the lead up to the 6N, I don't think he is an international standard 10, but he is better than Weir.

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Post by George Carlin on Wed 28 Dec 2016, 10:47 am

Commentator said it was Symons although it did look as though he was wearing 13. I only saw the highlights but on a personal note I am delighted to see Jackson get some meaningful game time in the absence of Nev.

Visser is already a Quins fan favourite.
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Post by funnyExiledScot on Wed 28 Dec 2016, 11:13 am

Scott's defence isn't the strongest aspect of his game. He doesn't seem a have a problem putting his shoulder into the tackle and making the hit, but his positioning can go awry. It's possibly down to his shift from 12 to 13 at Glaws, but I'm probably being too generous. He's a fine attacking player though - runs great lines and is powerful on the burst over short distances.

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Post by EST on Wed 28 Dec 2016, 11:40 am

Yeah, I am a big fan of Scott in general - he runs the best lines of any centre we have, in my opinion. Regarding his defence, it is often said that 13 is the toughest position to defend and I wonder if he is not quite quick enough for that role. Marchant just seemed to get on his outside last night, although I don't think Scott will be the only player stood up by him - he looks a cracking player.

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Post by George Carlin on Thu 29 Dec 2016, 6:41 am

I think that we're avoiding asking some difficult questions here. 

I'll start - did anyone get any decent Christmas presents?
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Post by funnyExiledScot on Thu 29 Dec 2016, 9:10 am

George Carlin wrote:I think that we're avoiding asking some difficult questions here. 

I'll start - did anyone get any decent Christmas presents?

I got a copy of Nick Clegg's autobiography. What's not to like?

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Post by cakeordeath on Thu 29 Dec 2016, 7:48 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
George Carlin wrote:I think that we're avoiding asking some difficult questions here. 

I'll start - did anyone get any decent Christmas presents?

I got a copy of Nick Clegg's autobiography. What's not to like?

Well obviously I didn't get anything as good as that. Nothing rugby related, some art, concert tickets, and some wine I had been struggling to find. Which is ironic as my wife has banned alcohol over the holidays as she thinks I am staggering towards alcoholism. She may be right, but being a supporter of Scottish rugby will do that to a man.

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Post by George Carlin on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 7:00 am

cakeordeath wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
George Carlin wrote:I think that we're avoiding asking some difficult questions here. 

I'll start - did anyone get any decent Christmas presents?

I got a copy of Nick Clegg's autobiography. What's not to like?

Well obviously I didn't get anything as good as that. Nothing rugby related, some art, concert tickets, and some wine I had been struggling to find. Which is ironic as my wife has banned alcohol over the holidays as she thinks I am staggering towards alcoholism. She may be right, but being a supporter of Scottish rugby will do that to a man.
My friend got his wife a stepladder. 

And he wonders why she gets on much better with his friends than with him. 

I think it's partly because all of us know that you don't buy your wife a stepladder for Christmas.
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Post by funnyExiledScot on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 9:15 am

cakeordeath wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
George Carlin wrote:I think that we're avoiding asking some difficult questions here. 

I'll start - did anyone get any decent Christmas presents?

I got a copy of Nick Clegg's autobiography. What's not to like?

Well obviously I didn't get anything as good as that. Nothing rugby related, some art, concert tickets, and some wine I had been struggling to find. Which is ironic as my wife has banned alcohol over the holidays as she thinks I am staggering towards alcoholism. She may be right, but being a supporter of Scottish rugby will do that to a man.

Funnily enough my wife declared the same thing, but my Dad bought me five crates of Innis & Gunn for Christmas (good man) and my colleagues bought my 6 large bottles of the same for my birthday on Christmas Eve. My brother-in-law bought me a bottle of gin and a bottle of red, my mother-in-law bought me a bottle of champagne and yesterday I won two bottles of Chateau Margaux at the work Christmas raffle.

There is no chance whatsoever of me staying dry in January.

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Post by cakeordeath on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 12:00 pm

Toonie has outdone himself this time. Hogg at 10 for the Treviso game.

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Post by BigGee on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 12:12 pm

cakeordeath wrote:Toonie has outdone himself this time. Hogg at 10 for the Treviso game.

Not as mad as it seems actually.

Hoggy was effectively covering FH for the euro games and the Edinburgh match. Clegg, from what we have seen this year does not really seem up to that level. If he is going to provide cover then I guess you should probably give him a run out at some point to give him some practice. It is not inconceivable that he will cover 10 for Scotland in the 6N as well unless one of the other 10s really put their hands up.

What it does show is that Glasgow are dangerously short of FHs and that this could well cost us when Hoggy and Finn are away playing for Scotland or if either of them get injured. Horne is going to be out for some time and there really does not seem to be anyone else.

Other than that it is a decent team we have got out and you would imagine should have far to much for Treviso to deal with. A few more get a rest as well and Ashe and Junior get starts and a chance to show what they can do.

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Post by MacKnocked-on on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 12:23 pm

From a Scotland point of view having Hogg cover 10 is probably preferable to having the likes of Weir on the bench, that way a more dangerous (and talented) player such as Bennett, Taylor or Scott can be included among the replacements if Dunbar and Jones continue as the first choice centre pairing. Hogg only has to outplay Weir to make it a viable option going in to the 6Ns, not that tall an order based on Weir's current form.

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Post by BigGee on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 12:33 pm

MacKnocked-on wrote:From a Scotland point of view having Hogg cover 10 is probably preferable to having the likes of Weir on the bench, that way a more dangerous (and talented) player such as Bennett, Taylor or Scott can be included among the replacements if Dunbar and Jones continue as the first choice centre pairing. Hogg only has to outplay Weir to make it a viable option going in to the 6Ns, not that tall an order based on Weir's current form.  

I don't think Weir is even in the running from what we have seen this season so far, the only other option I imagine would be Jacko.

I would not take a lot of convincing for it to be Hoggy though and I like the idea of having a game changer on the bench.

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Post by MacKnocked-on on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 12:43 pm

BigGee wrote:
MacKnocked-on wrote:From a Scotland point of view having Hogg cover 10 is probably preferable to having the likes of Weir on the bench, that way a more dangerous (and talented) player such as Bennett, Taylor or Scott can be included among the replacements if Dunbar and Jones continue as the first choice centre pairing. Hogg only has to outplay Weir to make it a viable option going in to the 6Ns, not that tall an order based on Weir's current form.  

I don't think Weir is even in the running from what we have seen this season so far, the only other option I imagine would be Jacko.

I would not take a lot of convincing for it to be Hoggy though and I like the idea of having a game changer on the bench.

You would hope not, but his constant selection for Edinburgh ahead of Tovey might suggest that Cotter is giving him every chance of getting in the squad. I personally think we need to find the best way of having as many of our best players in the match day squad as possible, obviously Jones has played on the wing previously so if Russell had to come off then Hogg could move to 10, Maitland could move to 15 and Bennett (or Taylor, Scott) could come on at 13. We've lost a few games over the years due to poor substitutions costing us momentum in the last twenty minutes or so.

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by jimbopip on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 1:11 pm

Toonie's Tombola has shown a remarkable degree of internal consistency: the Pro 12 has effectively become a knock out tournament for us inasmuch as we need at least 38 points from eleven games. (OK so we have the Exfoliators at home so make that 33 from ten games.)
Tomorrow's match and then Kaahdiff at home will, effectively, decide whether we can realistically make the play-offs. We really need 10 points from these two matches BUT we also need to rest players who will be key players against Munster and Tiggers. So no; Brown, Puafisi, Gray, Bluto, 1/2 Price, Dancer, Dunbar or Bennett. All of whom I suggest will be in the 23 for Munster.
Hoggy at 10 is not a Lions audition but rather an indication that Toonie thinks we can run Treviso off the park.(Ashe-Batman-Fozzie is also all about pace and mobility) I expect to see Kenatale and Clegg on as soon as we're comfortably ahead and four tries have been scored.
Next week will be the last chance for players to state a claim for the European matches so Grigg and Johnson, Allan and Rae will want to show up well enough tomorrow to be playing next week.
The best possible outcome over the next two weeks; two big wins, confidence on a high and 28 points needed from 9 games (or 23 from 8 if 5 against the Luvvies is a gimme).
Worst possible outcome; two defeats, injuries to key players and an end of season party in Tiggerville on January 21st.

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by tigertattie on Fri 30 Dec 2016, 6:35 pm

Any of you chunky monkeys got one of those body fit macron shirts? Basically, if I'm a 3xl in the regular replica shirt, will my belly fit into a 5xl body fit one?
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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by George Carlin on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 12:04 pm

tigertattie wrote:Any of you chunky monkeys got one of those body fit macron shirts? Basically, if I'm a 3xl in the regular replica shirt, will my belly fit into a 5xl body fit one?
Pre-Christmas belly or post-Christmas?
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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by demosthenes on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 12:08 pm

For anyone who is remotely interested, the score at half-time in Parma is Zebre 7 : 13 Edinburgh.

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by tigertattie on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 12:24 pm

George Carlin wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Any of you chunky monkeys got one of those body fit macron shirts? Basically, if I'm a 3xl in the regular replica shirt, will my belly fit into a 5xl body fit one?
Pre-Christmas belly or post-Christmas?

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by demosthenes on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 12:55 pm

demosthenes wrote:For anyone who is remotely interested, the score at half-time in Parma is Zebre 7 : 13 Edinburgh.  

Full time 19:24

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 1:07 pm

Just watched the highlights at the start of the Glasgow match coverage - zebre scored a last play of the game try to get the LBP.

Worryingly Zebre outscored us 3 tries to 2. Still, a win was desperately needed at this stage.

Even more worryingly CDP was easily fended off on their way to their first try - what has happened to him this season?? As soon as he's become SQ he's become crap! Maybe he doesn't want to get picked?!

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by cakeordeath on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 1:21 pm

Talking about rubbish Glasgow are awful. They look so disjointed.

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by cakeordeath on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 1:26 pm

And Glasgow score 2 on the bounce

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 1:40 pm

And give one back to Treviso! A ridiculous try to concede!
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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by cakeordeath on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 1:41 pm

This is painful to watch

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by cakeordeath on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 2:06 pm

Jesus this ref is as pish as Glasgow

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by tigertattie on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 2:14 pm

But what about my 5xl bodyfit shirt?
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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by cakeordeath on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 2:15 pm

Nice try from Antman

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by cakeordeath on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 2:16 pm

Sorry tatie. I am an athlete so not sure about the fat boy sizes

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by cakeordeath on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 2:42 pm

I really hope Glasgow can pull this off then I can complain about the ref without it appearing like sour grapes

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 2:52 pm

cakeordeath wrote:I really hope Glasgow can pull this off then I can complain about the ref without it appearing like sour grapes

Your wish has been granted.

Glasgow got out of jail there. Great work by auld Lamont for Clegg's try at the end.
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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by IanBru on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 2:53 pm

Like Cakey, I hate to be 'that guy', but the Italian ref was crooked as a dog's leg.
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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by cakeordeath on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 2:54 pm

I can't even be bothered now. That had to be the worst performance I have ever seen from this Glasgow team

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by BigGee on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 2:56 pm

Well that one won't go down in the realms of the classics!

Still 5 points in the bag, there is always something to be said for winning whilst playing badly, we have not always done that this year. Treviso look much improved this year as well it has to be said, so maybe not such a surprise. We always looked liked we had a little bit more in the tank despite all of that.

We missed our leaders today, no JG and JS leading from the front. It has to be said that Henry did not lead or play well today, seems to be struggling a bit for form at the moment. I am sure that Ali Price will be back at the helm next week, he deserves to be really and is definitely the no.1 choice at the moment.

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by jimbopip on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 2:58 pm

Cometh the hour, cometh the Schlong. What a speedster. Yahoo

Mind you, I was listening to the Glasgow fans and wondering about what sort of fans could afford to travel to Italy for an away game the week after Chrimbo when I swear I heard them chanting, "WE ARE MIDDLE CLASS. WE ARE MIDDLE CLASS"

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by BigGee on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 3:05 pm

jimbopip wrote:Cometh the hour, cometh the Schlong. What a speedster. Yahoo

Mind you, I was listening to the Glasgow fans and wondering about what sort of fans could afford to travel to Italy for an away game the week after Chrimbo when I swear I heard them chanting, "WE ARE MIDDLE CLASS. WE ARE MIDDLE CLASS"

The venerable Sean has not been getting a lot of game time this season in which will surely be his last season. I guess that is understandable as Toonie looks to the future and gives some of the youngsters their chances.

He definitely showed the value of an old head today though, even if the pace is dropping off a little bit, the brain still seems to be working well. He is still going to have a role to play this year even if it is mainly in cameos.

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Re: Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

Post by MacKnocked-on on Sat 31 Dec 2016, 3:27 pm

BigGee wrote:
jimbopip wrote:Cometh the hour, cometh the Schlong. What a speedster. Yahoo

Mind you, I was listening to the Glasgow fans and wondering about what sort of fans could afford to travel to Italy for an away game the week after Chrimbo when I swear I heard them chanting, "WE ARE MIDDLE CLASS. WE ARE MIDDLE CLASS"

The venerable Sean has not been getting a lot of game time this season in which will surely be his last season. I guess that is understandable as Toonie looks to the future and gives some of the youngsters their chances.

He definitely showed the value of an old head today though, even if the pace is dropping off a little bit, the brain still seems to be working well. He is still going to have a role to play this year even if it is mainly in cameos.

Yes he had a good impact when he came on but I also think Junior played well and deserves to figure much more than he has been. For me the worse performer today was Pyrgos, he had a really poor game, his passing was especially erratic and some of the other usual first team players such as Swinson and Wilson weren't on top form either.
One major positive was Hogg's place kicking, don't think he missed one.

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