Edinburgh and Glasgow: Ongoing Banter Thread XIV (It's still personal)

by tigertattie Thu 08 Dec 2016, 5:29 pm

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2007–08
28 December 2007, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 35–31 Glasgow Warriors
11 April 2008, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 23–14 Edinburgh
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 54–49

2008–09
26 December 2008, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 39–6 Glasgow Warriors
2 January 2009, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 25–20 Edinburgh
Winner: Edinburgh 59–31

2009–10
27 December 2009, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 25–12 Edinburgh
2 January 2010, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 15–22 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 47–27

2010–11
27 December 2010, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 30–18 Edinburgh
2 January 2011, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 28–17 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 47–46

2011–12
26 December 2011, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 23–23 Glasgow Warriors
1 January 2012, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 17–12 Edinburgh
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 40–35

2012–13
21 December 2012, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 23–14 Edinburgh
29 December 2012, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 17–21 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 44–31

2013–14
26 December 2013, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 16–20 Glasgow Warriors
26 April 2014, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 37–34 Edinburgh (postponed from 1st Jan due to waterlogged pitch)
Winner: Glasgow 57–50

2014–15
27 December 2014, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 16–6 Edinburgh
2 January 2015, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 20–8 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Edinburgh 26–24

2015–16
27 December 2015, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 23–11 Glasgow Warriors
2 January 2016, Murrayfield Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 11–14 Edinburgh (moved from Scotstoun due to waterlogged pitch)
Winner: Edinburgh 37–22

Winners tally
Glasgow Warriors - 6
Edinburgh - 3

Some tidying up could be required as I'm no a PC wizz!

PS - Any player from Ayr is not necessarily "World class"

by GLove39 Sat 07 Jan 2017, 12:35 am

Stop whatever your doing & watch this masterclass from Jon Welsh http://sport.bt.com/video/newcastle-prop-attempts-outrageous-chip-and-chase-91364130955486 Shocked

by R!skysports Sat 07 Jan 2017, 5:48 am

GLove39 wrote:Stop whatever your doing & watch this masterclass from Jon Welsh http://sport.bt.com/video/newcastle-prop-attempts-outrageous-chip-and-chase-91364130955486

Was not a bad effort

by **RDW** Sat 07 Jan 2017, 8:23 am

Strong words from Townsend about the Finn Russell situation

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-union/guinness-pro12/furious-gregor-townsend-blasts-clubs-circling-finn-russell-1-4333834

He also claims that Racing directly spoke to nakarawa both before and after Glasgow's game with them last year, coming to his hotel before the game.

That really is ridiculous and Townsend is right to say that World Rugby needs to go something about these kind of things!

by Nematode Sat 07 Jan 2017, 2:42 pm

That really is outrageous by Racing. I'm surprised that no penalties were imposed on them for that.

Did anyone see the highlights of the Scarlets/Ulster game? The yellow cards and penalty try in the Scarlets Ulster game were not even laughable they were that bad.

by bsando Sat 07 Jan 2017, 5:17 pm

Will have to read that article, seems really rotten. I would like to think Glasgow/Townsend have never employed such tactics themselves.

Racing getting destroyed by Munster. Glasgow gotta get some good points from their remaining two Champions cup fixtures.

by **George Carlin** Sun 08 Jan 2017, 4:44 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Strong words from Townsend about the Finn Russell situation

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-union/guinness-pro12/furious-gregor-townsend-blasts-clubs-circling-finn-russell-1-4333834

He also claims that Racing directly spoke to nakarawa both before and after Glasgow's game with them last year, coming to his hotel before the game.

That really is ridiculous and Townsend is right to say that World Rugby needs to go something about these kind of things!

Toonie is very understated and diplomatic so for him to go on the record telling other clubs to stop being so unprofessional he must be pretty furious.

He's right though. If you're interested in a player, you go through the club. The top wendyball leagues have that sort of oversight correctly locked down.

Agents are @rseholes in every sport, mind you.

by **George Carlin** Sun 08 Jan 2017, 10:40 am

https://www.606v2.com/t64860-champions-cup-pool-1-glasgow-warriors-v-munster-14-january

by MacKnocked-on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 9:43 am

Edinburgh just tweeted about some 'big news' coming this morning, new player? new coach?

by **RDW** Mon 09 Jan 2017, 9:46 am

Half price caviar at the next home game?

by tigertattie Mon 09 Jan 2017, 9:48 am

Will be a coach announcement!

Either they've found someone new or they're giving it to Hodge on a permanent basis

by EWT Spoons Mon 09 Jan 2017, 9:52 am

I think it will be Hodge. In no way do I think he is the right man for the role, but he's the easy option.

by **NeilyBroon** Mon 09 Jan 2017, 9:53 am

As someone who isn't an Edinburgh fan but is a Scotland fan, I'm praying it's not Hodge!

by Nematode Mon 09 Jan 2017, 9:58 am

Someone has bought a half-season season ticket?

by **RDW** Mon 09 Jan 2017, 9:59 am

Nematode wrote:Someone has bought a half-season season ticket?

by EWT Spoons Mon 09 Jan 2017, 9:59 am

Nematode wrote:Someone has bought a half-season season ticket?

I'm about to, I wonder if they have found this out and are just waiting for me to click "buy"

by tigertattie Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:05 am

EWT Spoons wrote:
Nematode wrote:Someone has bought a half-season season ticket?

I'm about to, I wonder if they have found this out and are just waiting for me to click "buy"

Don't do it Spoons!

Save your cash and use it to go see your local team playing home and away. You'll find the quality of rugby is far superior at your local amateur club!

by funnyExiledScot Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:15 am

GLove39 wrote:Stop whatever your doing & watch this masterclass from Jon Welsh http://sport.bt.com/video/newcastle-prop-attempts-outrageous-chip-and-chase-91364130955486

Love it!

by EWT Spoons Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:23 am

tigertattie wrote:
EWT Spoons wrote:
Nematode wrote:Someone has bought a half-season season ticket?

I'm about to, I wonder if they have found this out and are just waiting for me to click "buy"

Don't do it Spoons!

Save your cash and use it to go see your local team playing home and away. You'll find the quality of rugby is far superior at your local amateur club!

I'm spending the cash anyway mate buying individual tickets, so may as well bite the bullet. Also you're right about my local club (used to play for them and now go and watch occasionally), but Friday nights are easier to get to games for me.

off topic but interesting stat (I think anyway), Matt Scott has scored the 2nd most tries in the prem this season (8 along with Rokoduguni) just behind Wade. Not bad for him, especially considering Gloucesters form. A

by IanBru Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:23 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:
GLove39 wrote:Stop whatever your doing & watch this masterclass from Jon Welsh http://sport.bt.com/video/newcastle-prop-attempts-outrageous-chip-and-chase-91364130955486

Love it!

I can't believe it - the Hagia Sophia and I were all set to go to that game, but as my nose is impersonating Victoria Falls and Waitrose had a 'Dine in for £15' deal, we decided to give it a miss. Amazing game by all accounts!

by EWT Spoons Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:33 am

Hamish Watson has signed a 2 year deal, wonder if that was the big news

by **RDW** Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:33 am

EWT Spoons wrote:Hamish Watson has signed a 2 year deal, wonder if that was the big news

I'm guessing so - great news!

by EWT Spoons Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:35 am

Aye, although he said he was keen to sign up, so it would have taken a massive c**k up from the SRU to mess that up.....so yeah good news, was probably close to not happening. Smile

by **BigGee** Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:36 am

Do we think that John Hardie will be off then?

I would imagine so. Both to good to be the number two and he will fancy and deserve a pay day.

by EWT Spoons Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:38 am

If there is still interest in Hardie (I imagine there would be) then yeah I fully suspect he will be off. Would be nice to keep them both, but I doubt it would be feasible.

by **BigGee** Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:39 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:
GLove39 wrote:Stop whatever your doing & watch this masterclass from Jon Welsh http://sport.bt.com/video/newcastle-prop-attempts-outrageous-chip-and-chase-91364130955486

Love it!

Surely Jon Welsh has played himself into the Scotland squad with that move. It was his work around the park, not his set play that used to count against him and he seems to have put that to bed. He is surely miles ahead of Moray Low now who never seems to play for Exeter any more.

If Nel stays crocked then he may even end up playing.

by Welly Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:43 am

EWT Spoons wrote:Hamish Watson has signed a 2 year deal, wonder if that was the big news

Really happy with that, being an ex academy lad have kept one eye on him, and him and Bradbury as a partnership could develop into a really class back row.

(Also Saints would of messed him up if he went there).

by tigertattie Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:45 am

BigGee wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
GLove39 wrote:Stop whatever your doing & watch this masterclass from Jon Welsh http://sport.bt.com/video/newcastle-prop-attempts-outrageous-chip-and-chase-91364130955486

Love it!

Surely Jon Welsh has played himself into the Scotland squad with that move. It was his work around the park, not his set play that used to count against him and he seems to have put that to bed. He is surely miles ahead of Moray Low now who never seems to play for Exeter any more.

If Nel stays crocked then he may even end up playing.

While hilarious, lets not forget that this move resulted in the ball being handed over! As a former forward myself, if I was in Jon's place, I'd have used my brain to determine I had a far better chance of dipping the shoulder and going through the small back that was defending that trying to chip over and out pace him for a try!

I'm not saying that it was a guarantee that Jon would have gone through the defender, but surely he'd have at least been able to retain possession!

by IanBru Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:47 am

EWT Spoons wrote:If there is still interest in Hardie (I imagine there would be) then yeah I fully suspect he will be off. Would be nice to keep them both, but I doubt it would be feasible.

It's a tough one. Ideally both would stay and continue to push each other. However, with a worrying lack of depth at openside (unless we include Wilson and Barclay in the reckoning), we really need to spread our resources a bit and allow more talent to come through. Matt Smith at Glasgow looks a very promising prospect, but you wouldn't expect him to come into the international consideration for at least two or three years. Watson therefore needs to be maximising his game time at Edinburgh to keep his progression going. If Hardie leaving assists in that, then it's a necessary evil.

by EWT Spoons Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:47 am

Agreed, whilst it was brilliant to see John in full flight, he made the wrong choice there. Really any other choice would probably have been better. Easy to forgive him considering I doubt he's been in that position very often and just panicked

by **BigGee** Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:49 am

tigertattie wrote:
BigGee wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
GLove39 wrote:Stop whatever your doing & watch this masterclass from Jon Welsh http://sport.bt.com/video/newcastle-prop-attempts-outrageous-chip-and-chase-91364130955486

Love it!

Surely Jon Welsh has played himself into the Scotland squad with that move. It was his work around the park, not his set play that used to count against him and he seems to have put that to bed. He is surely miles ahead of Moray Low now who never seems to play for Exeter any more.

If Nel stays crocked then he may even end up playing.

While hilarious, lets not forget that this move resulted in the ball being handed over! As a former forward myself, if I was in Jon's place, I'd have used my brain to determine I had a far better chance of dipping the shoulder and going through the small back that was defending that trying to chip over and out pace him for a try!

I'm not saying that it was a guarantee that Jon would have gone through the defender, but surely he'd have at least been able to retain possession!

The chip and chase was indeed hilarious and almost came on. The line he ran to make the initial break through was a thing of rare beauty though and had me purring!

by Nematode Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:50 am

If Watson and Hardie are seen as Scotland's top two 7's then it would make sense for Hardie to leave. I reckon he'll get a fair amount of interest although is he not quite prone to injury?

Watson and Bradbury aside, there aren't many players that regularly start that I'd be that disappointed about if they left (Anton Bresler aside). Nel is important to Edinburgh but he deserves to be playing at a better club.

by tigertattie Mon 09 Jan 2017, 11:19 am

I'd not say he's prone to injury in the Rory Lamont category!

He does get injured a bit but that's because he's normally the first man getting into the action so it's purely a numbers thing!

by **George Carlin** Mon 09 Jan 2017, 11:52 am

Where the hell has Hardie been, actually?

by EWT Spoons Mon 09 Jan 2017, 11:58 am

Picked up an injury in the autumn tests, think he's likely to miss the 6 nations as well

by funnyExiledScot Mon 09 Jan 2017, 12:18 pm

IanBru wrote:
EWT Spoons wrote:If there is still interest in Hardie (I imagine there would be) then yeah I fully suspect he will be off. Would be nice to keep them both, but I doubt it would be feasible.
It's a tough one. Ideally both would stay and continue to push each other. However, with a worrying lack of depth at openside (unless we include Wilson and Barclay in the reckoning), we really need to spread our resources a bit and allow more talent to come through. Matt Smith at Glasgow looks a very promising prospect, but you wouldn't expect him to come into the international consideration for at least two or three years. Watson therefore needs to be maximising his game time at Edinburgh to keep his progression going. If Hardie leaving assists in that, then it's a necessary evil.

Surely Matt Smith is World Class by now??

Agreed on Hardie. I'd like to keep him, but I'd rather we sorted out Nel and Du Preez. Something is up with Du Preez, he's not been his usual self for a while now. He even made Josh Strauss look good.....

by sensisball Mon 09 Jan 2017, 12:31 pm

Welsh and Toonie apparently don't see eye to eye, hence his departure from the weege.
Jon isn't the new age kind of player that Toonie likes, I think he reminds him too much of the scary, hairy front rowers he played with at Brive. Apparently the front row union used to warm up by head butting each other and then trampling over selected team mates before they went out onto the field! Not a warm up that Toonie would find particularly appealing!
Perhaps Cotter has been told not to select him as his successor has no intention of ever selecting him, even if the alternative is as disastrous as Moray Low. Hopefully the giant tight head (54 inch chest) playing for Dollar in the schools final this year can get a contract and make it into the Scotland squad ahead of Low by this time next season!!!
I guess the only way we would know for sure if this is correct is if Welsh was to find his way into the ranks at Montpellier!

by cakeordeath Mon 09 Jan 2017, 12:41 pm

I was half expecting the Warriors to appeal Big Brian's ban, but it seems that won't be the case

by des Mon 09 Jan 2017, 8:27 pm

Nothing to see here

by **RDW** Tue 10 Jan 2017, 1:21 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38570994

Looks like Redpath is out of the running for Edinburgh coach - he's taking up a 'business role' elsewhere

by cakeordeath Tue 10 Jan 2017, 1:38 pm

Craig Chalmers it is then

by EWT Spoons Tue 10 Jan 2017, 2:53 pm

Has anyone seen the story about the young lad ACT Brumbies have just signed? Signed a schoolboy contract (18 years old) 113kg 193cm, normally plays at 8. Born in oz, with Fijian parents but with Samoan and SCOTTISH grandparents...He's very keen to play for oz, but wonder if he could be tempted to follow his distant routes.

by nickj Tue 10 Jan 2017, 3:00 pm

Is this guy? http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-union/brumbies/act-brumbies-rookie-rob-valetini-hits-like-a-freight-train-but-still-learning-to-drive-20161222-gth0h9.html

by funnyExiledScot Tue 10 Jan 2017, 3:16 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38570994

Looks like Redpath is out of the running for Edinburgh coach - he's taking up a 'business role' elsewhere

Was he in the running? His coaching career hasn't been stellar. Pity, a truly wonderful scrum half at the peak of his powers with fantastic service.

by tigertattie Tue 10 Jan 2017, 3:57 pm

EWT Spoons wrote:Has anyone seen the story about the young lad ACT Brumbies have just signed? Signed a schoolboy contract (18 years old) 113kg 193cm, normally plays at 8. Born in oz, with Fijian parents but with Samoan and SCOTTISH grandparents...He's very keen to play for oz, but wonder if he could be tempted to follow his distant routes.

It all depends! If he is tempted to come play for us instead of Oz then all is good. If he plays for us as Oz don't have a place for him then no, we shouldn't take him!

If we become dependent on cast offs from other nations then we'll never beat them!

by EWT Spoons Tue 10 Jan 2017, 4:18 pm

nickj wrote:Is this guy? http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-union/brumbies/act-brumbies-rookie-rob-valetini-hits-like-a-freight-train-but-still-learning-to-drive-20161222-gth0h9.html

yes

by EWT Spoons Tue 10 Jan 2017, 4:57 pm

Apparently Nel & Bresler are due back for the Quins game. Also apparently bresler is disappointed with his form for Edinburgh thus far and has yet to play at his best.

by **George Carlin** Tue 10 Jan 2017, 5:41 pm

https://www.606v2.com/t64884-harlequins-v-edinburgh-rugby-14-january

by **BigGee** Wed 11 Jan 2017, 11:35 am

Tommy S and Tim Swinson both sign on again at Scotstoun.

Swinson for 3 years, Tommy for 2.

Good bit of business on both players, who would undoubtably have had offers elsewhere. They must have come up with a fair bit of wedge to sign Tommy up who has got to be one of the hottest wingers in the Northern Hemisphere just now and I guess Tim Swinson has deceided he wants to finnish his career at Glasgow. Why would'nt you?

by nickj Wed 11 Jan 2017, 11:38 am

Great news. I thought Horny was signing on too?

by **BigGee** Wed 11 Jan 2017, 11:43 am

nickj wrote:Great news. I thought Horny was signing on too?

They kind of has been put out there already, they are probably just dribbling the official announcements out to keep us all in suspense.

There is talk of a South African prop Oli Kemble signing for next season as well. He plays TH for the stormers and was in the same junior springbock side as Dell that won the junior WC. That might explain why Pulifisi is off to France, we certainly need someone to replace him and anchor down the scrum when Zander is away with Scotland.

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