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Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by George Carlin on Sun 08 Jan 2017, 10:39 am

                 
Glasgow Warriors v Munster Rugby
Saturday 14 January 2017
KO 17:30
Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow

Live on Sky Sports / beIN Sports

Referee Luke Pearce (England)
Touch Judge 1 Matthew Carley (England)
Touch Judge 2 Wayne Falla (England)
TMO Graham Hughes (England)
Citing Commissioner Andy Blyth (England)

A. Head to Head

In Europe:

22 October 2016
Munster Rugby 38 - 17 Glasgow Warriors

In league play:

28 Played 28
16 Wins 11
11 Losses 16
1 Draws 1

B. Recent League Form

2 December 2016
Glasgow Warriors 15-16 Munster Rugby

19 February 2016
Glasgow Warriors 27 - 24 Munster Rugby 

2 October 2015
Munster Rugby 32 - 21 Glasgow Warriors

30 May 2015
Munster Rugby 13 - 31 Glasgow Warriors

28 February 2015
Munster Rugby 22 - 10 Glasgow Warriors

20 December 2014
Glasgow Warriors 21 - 18 Munster Rugby

C. Teams

Glasgow Warriors 

Stuart Hogg, Tommy Seymour, Mark Bennett, Alex Dunbar, Lee Jones, Finn Russell, Ali Price; Gordon Reid, Fraser Brown, Zander Fagerson, Tim Swinson, Jonny Gray (capt), Rob Harley, Ryan Wilson, Josh Strauss.

Replacements: Pat MacArthur, Alex Allan, D'arcy Rae, Matt Fagerson, Chris Fusaro, Grayson Hart, Nick Grigg, Peter Murchie.

Munster Rugby

Simon Zebo, Andrew Conway, Jaco Taute, Rory Scannell, Keith Earls, Tyler Bleyendaal, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Niall Scannell, John Ryan, Jean Kleyn, Donnacha Ryan; Peter O'Mahony (capt), Jack O'Donoghue, CJ Stander.

Replacements: Rhys Marshall, James Cronin, Thomas Du Toit, Dave Foley, Billy Holland, Duncan Williams, Ian Keatley, Francis Saili.


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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by jimbopip on Sun 08 Jan 2017, 2:03 pm

According to my spy in the dear green place Toonie himself graced the scouthut after last night's game in order to exhort the faithful to make a lot of noise on Saturday. To paraphrase the Tombalo Turner, Munster will be looking to get into our players' faces so we want to get into their heads and the crowd can help by being loud and unwelcoming.
First thoughts; Toonie never goes into the scouthut post match so that says something about how important Saturday is to him.
Secondly; this call to arms says a lot about the feelings at Glasgow with regards to Keith Earls' behaviour.
Also, asking Glaswegians to get rowdy and aggressive on a Saturday night. Laugh

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Post by cakeordeath on Sun 08 Jan 2017, 2:06 pm

jimbopip wrote:According to my spy in the dear green place Toonie himself graced the scouthut after last night's game in order to exhort the faithful to make a lot of noise on Saturday. To paraphrase the Tombalo Turner, Munster will be looking to get into our players' faces so we want to get into their heads and the crowd can help by being loud and unwelcoming.
First thoughts; Toonie never goes into the scouthut post match so that says something about how important Saturday is to him.
Secondly; this call to arms says a lot about the feelings at Glasgow with regards to Keith Earls' behaviour.
Also, asking Glaswegians to get rowdy and aggressive on a Saturday night. Laugh

Sadly I don't think it will make any difference. Munster seem to be an unstoppable juggernaut just now. I fancy them for the league and to make the ECC finals.


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Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 08 Jan 2017, 2:16 pm

cakeordeath wrote:
jimbopip wrote:According to my spy in the dear green place Toonie himself graced the scouthut after last night's game in order to exhort the faithful to make a lot of noise on Saturday. To paraphrase the Tombalo Turner, Munster will be looking to get into our players' faces so we want to get into their heads and the crowd can help by being loud and unwelcoming.
First thoughts; Toonie never goes into the scouthut post match so that says something about how important Saturday is to him.
Secondly; this call to arms says a lot about the feelings at Glasgow with regards to Keith Earls' behaviour.
Also, asking Glaswegians to get rowdy and aggressive on a Saturday night. Laugh

Sadly I don't think it will make any difference. Munster seem to be an unstoppable juggernaut just now. I fancy them for the league and to make the ECC finals.


Got to agree - Munster are an unstoppable force now and it would be a huge achievement for Glasgow to win this.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by EST on Sun 08 Jan 2017, 2:16 pm

I'd agree Cake. On the evidence of last night, and the season as whole, Glasgow are going to have to produce one of their best ever performances to come away with the win. I wasn't at all impressed with how they played last night, they did enough to get the win, but the midfield defence was poor, Finn Russell started to believe his own hype and aside from a few notable exceptions, I thought the performance lacked energy.

If Glasgow can match the intensity of Munster then they can win, however on the European stage they have mostly been less than convincing when up against a European heavyweight in form.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by George Carlin on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 5:04 am

I am not quite as pessimistic as some here.

The previous match was basically a wake for Foley, god rest him and it must have been an awful experience for the Glasgow team who must have felt rude scoring the few points that they did. As the Scotsman diplomatically put it, that is a well from which Munster should draw sparingly. That first game against Glasgow was for Foley and the rescheduled game against Racing correctly was too. This next match will be a completely different affair, as it should be.

Glasgow will be more peed at that home loss in December where we got enough ball to win but just didn't close it out. If you look at that Glasgow team from that night:

Peter Murchie, Rory Hughes, Nick Grigg, Mark Bennett, Tommy Seymour, Peter Horne, Ali Price; Gordon Reid, Fraser Brown, Sila Puafisi, Tim Swinson, Rob Harley, Josh Strauss, Chris Fusaro, Ryan Wilson (capt).

Replacements: Corey Flynn, Alex Allan, D’arcy Rae, Rob McAlpine, Langilangi Haupeakui, Nemia Kenatale, Rory Clegg, Lee Jones.

then I would say that the team we will put up for this game will be much better than that - the only defecation the salad in that respect being Large Brian's suspension for doing his hulksmash thing without using his arms.

Don't get me wrong - it is still a huge challenge against a very good pack who are playing well, but there are definite weaknesses there and I don't feel that this Munster side is as 'unbeatable' as a number of Paul O'Connell's sides over the years.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by LondonTiger on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 8:55 am

Munster lost (just) at Welford Road and we are carp. Huge chance for Glasgow here surely.

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Post by George Carlin on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 9:14 am

LondonTiger wrote:Munster lost (just) at Welford Road and we are carp. Huge chance for Glasgow here surely.
Harsh:
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by reallybored on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 9:15 am

I'm pretty confident Glasgow can do the business this weekend.

Don't read much into the game at Thomond, not sure any team would have stopped Munster that day.

Think Townsend will go for Johnson & Dunbar again in the centre or has Bennett shown enough in last few matches?

What will the back-row look like? With Harley, Favaro, Wilson, Strauss and Ashe all fit and firing, I'm honestly not sure what I'd go for.


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Post by tigertattie on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 9:15 am

if the unwashed win, surely it puts them in the driving seat for progressing out the group!
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by George Carlin on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 9:43 am

reallybored wrote:I'm pretty confident Glasgow can do the business this weekend.

Don't read much into the game at Thomond, not sure any team would have stopped Munster that day.

Think Townsend will go for Johnson & Dunbar again in the centre or has Bennett shown enough in last few matches?

What will the back-row look like?  With Harley, Favaro, Wilson, Strauss and Ashe all fit and firing, I'm honestly not sure what I'd go for.

Against Stander and buddies, I would go with 6. Wilson 7. Favaro and 8. Strauss. 

That combination will hunt down Tyler Bleyendaal all day.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by Hazel Sapling on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:05 am

It will be the opposite of the fixture in October. Glasgow will be furious about Keith Earls comments and the fans are riled up as well. It will likely be cold/wet on a plastic pitch Munster are not playing on every other week. We should be desperate to put them to the sword. Munster have also outplayed all expectations since Foley's death and had another big emotional weekend last week. The crowd needs to get into this early and often. Every time Earls goes down there should be a milking it chant.


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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by LondonTiger on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:10 am

Hazel Sapling wrote:. Glasgow will be furious about Keith Earls comments

¿Que

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:15 am

LondonTiger wrote:
Hazel Sapling wrote:. Glasgow will be furious about Keith Earls comments

¿Que

He publicly accused Fraser Brown of deliberately landing on his head to get Earl's sent off. He then did it again in a radio interview (after he had been sanctioned for the red card). It was only after the citing committee threatened to look into his comments that he finally issued a statement apologising for his actions.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by EST on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 10:17 am

LondonTiger wrote:
Hazel Sapling wrote:. Glasgow will be furious about Keith Earls comments

¿Que

He was sent off for a tip-tackle on Fraser Brown in the reverse fixture, when he was walking off the pitch he shouted at Brown implying Brown milked the situation to purposefully get Earls carded. This was perhaps understandable given the situation surrounding the match, albeit it wasn't very sporting. During the citing hearing he apologised for his actions and accepted responsibility. However, bizarrely a few weeks later he came out in an interview and again claimed that Brown had tried to purposefully make the tackle look worse than it was, and essentially blamed him for being sent off.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by George Carlin on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 11:50 am

EST wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:
Hazel Sapling wrote:. Glasgow will be furious about Keith Earls comments

¿Que

He was sent off for a tip-tackle on Fraser Brown in the reverse fixture, when he was walking off the pitch he shouted at Brown implying Brown milked the situation to purposefully get Earls carded.  This was perhaps understandable given the situation surrounding the match, albeit it wasn't very sporting.  During the citing hearing he apologised for his actions and accepted responsibility. However, bizarrely a few weeks later he came out in an interview and again claimed that Brown had tried to purposefully make the tackle look worse than it was, and essentially blamed him for being sent off.  
Here is a clue in picture format as to how Glasgow fans feel about Mr Earls:
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 12:22 pm

Ah, the days of Countdown! I miss being a student, when you could watch Neighbours, Doctors, Diagnosis Murder, Countdown and then Neighbours again, before declaring that you'd had a long day and required a drink in the bar to unwind.

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Post by cakeordeath on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 12:24 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:Ah, the days of Countdown! I miss being a student, when you could watch Neighbours, Doctors, Diagnosis Murder, Countdown and then Neighbours again, before declaring that you'd had a long day and required a drink in the bar to unwind.

It's almost as if we shared a flat at uni

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by George Carlin on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 12:35 pm

cakeordeath wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:Ah, the days of Countdown! I miss being a student, when you could watch Neighbours, Doctors, Diagnosis Murder, Countdown and then Neighbours again, before declaring that you'd had a long day and required a drink in the bar to unwind.

It's almost as if we shared a flat at uni
It's when you start drinking before 'Cash In The Attic' comes on that you know you have a drink problem...
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by Welly on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 2:30 pm

Trying to work out who to support.
Munster 16
Glasgow 13
Tigers 8
Racing 0

Lets say Munster get the 5 point win v Racing
Munster 21
Glasgow 13
Tigers 8
Racing 0

Means 100% Tigers can't win this group so need a Munster win denying Glasgow a LBP and a TBP V Racing win would leave it as
Munster 21
Glasgow 13
Tigers 13
Racing 0

With it all to play for in the final game @ Welford Road, i would back us to win that.

funnyExiledScot wrote:Ah, the days of Countdown! I miss being a student, when you could watch Neighbours, Doctors, Diagnosis Murder, Countdown and then Neighbours again, before declaring that you'd had a long day and required a drink in the bar to unwind.

Exactly the same...

Some times Home and away but that could get too heavy.
DM always annoyed me how Dr Sloan basically carried his son despite having such a demanding job.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by Hazel Sapling on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 2:43 pm

I guess Munster would have at least 25 points in that last table Welly if they are getting a 5 pointer vs Racing and at least 4 vs Glasgow.

Leicester are out of the running to win this group unless Glasgow win and Racing beat Munster at Munster. Practically 18 points should be enough to get through. Leicester have been hot and cold this campaign with good home performances and poor away performances. They should be up for the weekend though.

Will Racing get looked into for not trying?

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Post by Welly on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 2:57 pm

Hazel Sapling wrote:I guess Munster would have at least 25 points in that last table Welly if they are getting a 5 pointer vs Racing and at least 4 vs Glasgow.

Leicester are out of the running to win this group unless Glasgow win and Racing beat Munster at Munster. Practically 18 points should be enough to get through. Leicester have been hot and cold this campaign with good home performances and poor away performances. They should be up for the weekend though.

Will Racing get looked into for not trying?

Yeh the last table I did wasn't including the Munster v Glasgow game or the Tigers v Glasgow game

Final game Glasgow v Leicester could be really tasty affair IF we don't mas up this weekend (which is 50/50)

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by munkian on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 4:55 pm

George Carlin wrote:
EST wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:
Hazel Sapling wrote:. Glasgow will be furious about Keith Earls comments

¿Que

He was sent off for a tip-tackle on Fraser Brown in the reverse fixture, when he was walking off the pitch he shouted at Brown implying Brown milked the situation to purposefully get Earls carded.  This was perhaps understandable given the situation surrounding the match, albeit it wasn't very sporting.  During the citing hearing he apologised for his actions and accepted responsibility. However, bizarrely a few weeks later he came out in an interview and again claimed that Brown had tried to purposefully make the tackle look worse than it was, and essentially blamed him for being sent off.  
Here is a clue in picture format as to how Glasgow rugby fans feel about Mr Earls:
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by jimbopip on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 5:18 pm

George Carlin wrote:
reallybored wrote:I'm pretty confident Glasgow can do the business this weekend.

Don't read much into the game at Thomond, not sure any team would have stopped Munster that day.

Think Townsend will go for Johnson & Dunbar again in the centre or has Bennett shown enough in last few matches?

What will the back-row look like?  With Harley, Favaro, Wilson, Strauss and Ashe all fit and firing, I'm honestly not sure what I'd go for.

Against Stander and buddies, I would go with 6. Wilson 7. Favaro and 8. Strauss. 

That combination will hunt down Tyler Bleyendaal all day.

I think the Warriors team pretty much picks itself, with the exception of back row and centres.

Shrek/Allen
Brown/Flynn
Puafisi/Ragnar
Johnny and Swinson are the only second rows available
Harley (has been go to man in ECC)
Batman
The Human Exocet ( Bluto and Ashe to bench)
Henners/Price
Dancer
Johnson ( like Harley has started every Euro match, or been selected to start)
Dunbar (for street fighting qualities)/ so either Clegg or Bennett to bench
Seymour
Jones / Schlong
Hoggy

The absence of Naughty Boy allows two Flankers on the bench which should help us maintain a high tempo for 80 minutes.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 6:17 pm

jimbopip wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
reallybored wrote:I'm pretty confident Glasgow can do the business this weekend.

Don't read much into the game at Thomond, not sure any team would have stopped Munster that day.

Think Townsend will go for Johnson & Dunbar again in the centre or has Bennett shown enough in last few matches?

What will the back-row look like?  With Harley, Favaro, Wilson, Strauss and Ashe all fit and firing, I'm honestly not sure what I'd go for.

Against Stander and buddies, I would go with 6. Wilson 7. Favaro and 8. Strauss. 

That combination will hunt down Tyler Bleyendaal all day.

I think the Warriors team pretty much picks itself, with the exception of back row and centres.

Shrek/Allen
Brown/Flynn
Puafisi/Ragnar
Johnny and Swinson are the only second rows available
Harley (has been  go to man in ECC)
Batman
The Human Exocet ( Bluto and Ashe to bench)
Henners/Price
Dancer
Johnson ( like Harley has started every Euro match, or been selected to start)
Dunbar (for street fighting qualities)/ so either Clegg or Bennett to bench
Seymour
Jones / Schlong
Hoggy

The absence of Naughty Boy allows two Flankers on the bench which should help us maintain a high tempo for 80 minutes.

I like it how you say the team picks itself then go on to generally list at least 2 options for each position! Laugh

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Post by 123456789 on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 6:44 pm

Think this could well be one of those huge matches all rugby fans love, both teams will put literally everything into it. Hopefully these new rules won't reduce the game to a 15vs14.

Munster have been unstoppable since the tragedy but Glasgow have, the Munster game aside, been very impressive in Europe. Townsend will have them right up for it, after all his failure to get Glasgow into the Knockout rounds will be held against him should he fare badly with Scotland.

If things go badly at Scotland and he's not gone through he'll be seen as a coach who can win a "development" league but struggles at higher levels. If Glasgow reach the knockouts or go even further then any defeats will be responded to with assertions to give him time and believe in him, people will say it took two years for him to win the pro12 and even longer to make his mark in Europe, rugby fans really are that fickle.

In terms of Keith Earls I think we should be careful to stage a character assassination on the back of the Fraser Brown incident, it was of course an unsavoury incident and a very poor reaction to it all round. But it is important to remember it occurred in unprecedented circumstances, he would have wanted to have a stormer in that game, the rest of his team did and he didn't get a chance to play a full part of that. The easiest thing to do is to look for someone else to blame and I think in those circumstances it's probably fair to afford him the easy option. He has retracted the comments since then and, regardless of whether under duress, doing so has removed any possible question mark over Brown.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 6:53 pm

123456789 wrote:
In terms of Keith Earls I think we should be careful to stage a character assassination on the back of the Fraser Brown incident, it was of course an unsavoury incident and a very poor reaction to it all round. But it is important to remember it occurred in unprecedented circumstances, he would have wanted to have a stormer in that game, the rest of his team did and he didn't get a chance to play a full part of that. The easiest thing to do is to look for someone else to blame and I think in those circumstances it's probably fair to afford him the easy option. He has retracted the comments since then and, regardless of whether under duress, doing so has removed any possible question mark over Brown.

I know what you're saying but the reason he's lost a lot of respect is that this wasn't only a heat the moment thing (which would have been understandable) - he repeated the comments in a radio interview several weeks later. He's since retracted his claims given that he would have got another ban if he hadn't, but it wouldn't surprise me if he still is of the opinion (privately) that Fraser Brown deliberately risked crippling himself to get him sent off.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by EST on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 6:57 pm

123456789 wrote:Think this could well be one of those huge matches all rugby fans love, both teams will put literally everything into it. Hopefully these new rules won't reduce the game to a 15vs14.

Munster have been unstoppable since the tragedy but Glasgow have, the Munster game aside, been very impressive in Europe. Townsend will have them right up for it, after all his failure to get Glasgow into the Knockout rounds will be held against him should he fare badly with Scotland.

If things go badly at Scotland and he's not gone through he'll be seen as a coach who can win a "development" league but struggles at higher levels. If Glasgow reach the knockouts or go even further then any defeats will be responded to with assertions to give him time and believe in him, people will say it took two years for him to win the pro12 and even longer to make his mark in Europe, rugby fans really are that fickle.

In terms of Keith Earls I think we should be careful to stage a character assassination on the back of the Fraser Brown incident, it was of course an unsavoury incident and a very poor reaction to it all round. But it is important to remember it occurred in unprecedented circumstances, he would have wanted to have a stormer in that game, the rest of his team did and he didn't get a chance to play a full part of that. The easiest thing to do is to look for someone else to blame and I think in those circumstances it's probably fair to afford him the easy option. He has retracted the comments since then and, regardless of whether under duress, doing so has removed any possible question mark over Brown.

That's very diplomatic, Numbers. I agree that his actions during the match were understandable, it really was a very unfortunate situation. However, I am less inclined to give him the benefit of doubt a month after the fact.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by George Carlin on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 7:03 pm

123456789 wrote:Think this could well be one of those huge matches all rugby fans love, both teams will put literally everything into it. Hopefully these new rules won't reduce the game to a 15vs14.

Munster have been unstoppable since the tragedy but Glasgow have, the Munster game aside, been very impressive in Europe. Townsend will have them right up for it, after all his failure to get Glasgow into the Knockout rounds will be held against him should he fare badly with Scotland.

If things go badly at Scotland and he's not gone through he'll be seen as a coach who can win a "development" league but struggles at higher levels. If Glasgow reach the knockouts or go even further then any defeats will be responded to with assertions to give him time and believe in him, people will say it took two years for him to win the pro12 and even longer to make his mark in Europe, rugby fans really are that fickle.

In terms of Keith Earls I think we should be careful to stage a character assassination on the back of the Fraser Brown incident, it was of course an unsavoury incident and a very poor reaction to it all round. But it is important to remember it occurred in unprecedented circumstances, he would have wanted to have a stormer in that game, the rest of his team did and he didn't get a chance to play a full part of that. The easiest thing to do is to look for someone else to blame and I think in those circumstances it's probably fair to afford him the easy option. He has retracted the comments since then and, regardless of whether under duress, doing so has removed any possible question mark over Brown.
Yes, it's just that it was a pity the threat of further disciplinary action from European Rugby that was the catalyst for the second retraction, rather than any sense from the player that he might have said the wrong thing:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/rugby/earls-in-repeat-apology-after-disciplinary-threat-35289318.html
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by BigGee on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 7:14 pm

I think Keith Earls is forever going to be the pantomime villain in the eyes of Glasgow fans and unfortunately that title is entirely self inflicted.

Whatever the fans think of him though, I don't want the team to be paying him any more attention than they otherwise would. They made a complete mess of the last game in Limerick, for entirely understandable reasons and so this time is there chance for a bit of redemption. They do need to prepare for it with a completely different mind-set though. Put all memories of the previous game, including the Earls incident out of their minds and play their own game.

Still if Simone was to flatten him properly at some stage in the game, I would not complain!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by jimbopip on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 7:31 pm

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jimbopip wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
reallybored wrote:I'm pretty confident Glasgow can do the business this weekend.

Don't read much into the game at Thomond, not sure any team would have stopped Munster that day.

Think Townsend will go for Johnson & Dunbar again in the centre or has Bennett shown enough in last few matches?

What will the back-row look like?  With Harley, Favaro, Wilson, Strauss and Ashe all fit and firing, I'm honestly not sure what I'd go for.

Against Stander and buddies, I would go with 6. Wilson 7. Favaro and 8. Strauss. 

That combination will hunt down Tyler Bleyendaal all day.

I think the Warriors team pretty much picks itself, with the exception of back row and centres.

Shrek/Allen
Brown/Flynn
Puafisi/Ragnar
Johnny and Swinson are the only second rows available
Harley (has been  go to man in ECC)
Batman
The Human Exocet ( Bluto and Ashe to bench)
Henners/Price
Dancer
Johnson ( like Harley has started every Euro match, or been selected to start)
Dunbar (for street fighting qualities)/ so either Clegg or Bennett to bench
Seymour
Jones / Schlong
Hoggy

The absence of Naughty Boy allows two Flankers on the bench which should help us maintain a high tempo for 80 minutes.

I like it how you say the team picks itself then go on to generally list at least 2 options for each position! Laugh

So sorry, my Kaffe Fasser wearing friend. I thought it was patently obvious that I had listed 15 first choices with 8 replacements. Actually 9 because the last place will be either Clegg or Bennett. Wouldn't it be fun if Toonie opted for angel on the bench and we ended up with a 10-12-13 of Hogg-Johnson- angel with Schlong at 15?

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by George Carlin on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 6:25 am

Anyone know how Sarto's rehab is progressing?

We could really do with him back, no offence to Junior, the Selkirk Pixie or Methuselah.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by rapidsnowman on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 7:51 am

George Carlin wrote:We could really do with him back, no offence to Junior, the Selkirk Pixie or Methuselah.

Glasgow threads need to come with a glossary of terms to help the rest of us understand who you are talking about. Headscratch

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by demosthenes on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 8:06 am

rapidsnowman wrote:
George Carlin wrote:We could really do with him back, no offence to Junior, the Selkirk Pixie or Methuselah.

Glasgow threads need to come with a glossary of terms to help the rest of us understand who you are talking about. Headscratch

I'm sure someone did a glossary some time back, but probably out of date now.

Anyway, those three are respectively Junior Bulumakao; Lee Jones; and the venerable Shaun Lamont.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by RDW_Scotland on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 9:00 am

demosthenes wrote:
rapidsnowman wrote:
George Carlin wrote:We could really do with him back, no offence to Junior, the Selkirk Pixie or Methuselah.

Glasgow threads need to come with a glossary of terms to help the rest of us understand who you are talking about. Headscratch

I'm sure someone did a glossary some time back, but probably out of date now.

Anyway, those three are respectively Junior Bulumakao; Lee Jones; and the venerable Shaun Lamont.

Isn't it obvious? Very Happy

p.s. it is Sean, not Shuan Hug

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by demosthenes on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 9:13 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:
demosthenes wrote:
rapidsnowman wrote:
George Carlin wrote:We could really do with him back, no offence to Junior, the Selkirk Pixie or Methuselah.

Glasgow threads need to come with a glossary of terms to help the rest of us understand who you are talking about. Headscratch

I'm sure someone did a glossary some time back, but probably out of date now.

Anyway, those three are respectively Junior Bulumakao; Lee Jones; and the venerable Shaun Lamont.

Isn't it obvious? Very Happy

p.s. it is Sean, not Shuan Hug

Spellchecker!!!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by funnyExiledScot on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 9:24 am

BigGee wrote:I think Keith Earls is forever going to be the pantomime villain in the eyes of Glasgow fans and unfortunately that title is entirely self inflicted.

Whatever the fans think of him though, I don't want the team to be paying him any more attention than they otherwise would. They made a complete mess of the last game in Limerick, for entirely understandable reasons and so this time is there chance for a bit of redemption. They do need to prepare for it with a completely different mind-set though. Put all memories of the previous game, including the Earls incident out of their minds and play their own game.

Still if Simone was to flatten him properly at some stage in the game, I would not complain!

100%. Munster have many far more dangerous players for Glasgow to worry about. Earls isn't the player he used to be.

Glasgow need to be completely focused on the job here. Munster are beatable, and like all half-good Irish teams, they are willing to believe their own hype. Glasgow need to be bold from the start, and play the fast and ferocious game they want to.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by TJ on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 12:38 pm

Gonna be a cracker. These are the games the euro cup is for. Glasgow should be hungrier for the win and that should just get them over the line but I wouldn't bet my shirt on it

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by rodders on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 1:48 pm

BT Sport??

Edit: Just see Sky have got it...fook sake...
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by theslosty on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 1:59 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
BigGee wrote:I think Keith Earls is forever going to be the pantomime villain in the eyes of Glasgow fans and unfortunately that title is entirely self inflicted.

Whatever the fans think of him though, I don't want the team to be paying him any more attention than they otherwise would. They made a complete mess of the last game in Limerick, for entirely understandable reasons and so this time is there chance for a bit of redemption. They do need to prepare for it with a completely different mind-set though. Put all memories of the previous game, including the Earls incident out of their minds and play their own game.

Still if Simone was to flatten him properly at some stage in the game, I would not complain!

100%. Munster have many far more dangerous players for Glasgow to worry about. Earls isn't the player he used to be.
I won't get into the Fraser Brown incident but that sort of comment could come back to bite you on the backside, Earls has looked really sharp in his last few games for Munster and Ireland.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by Sin é on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 2:06 pm

I rewatched the Mun v Glasgow game again last night. Glasgow were very off the pace. Munster's pack were magnificent. Defence was outstanding as well - just relentless. Super offload from Earls for Tyler's try.



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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by rodders on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 2:29 pm

Two dark horses for the title...what odds this ends up a dress rehearsal for the final....
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by tigertattie on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 2:40 pm

if Glasgow are going to win this then they need to shore up that defense!
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by R!skysports on Thu 12 Jan 2017, 11:27 am

I always go into the matches like this worried that we will lose the u front battle and there for lose the match.

I am never confident that we can 'hod our own' enough to get a good platform

I hope I am wrong

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by jimbopip on Thu 12 Jan 2017, 1:54 pm

Shrek to the NotNots: there's too many concepts in that name for poor Gordie to comprehend.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by Sin é on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 12:00 pm

Munster team:

Munster: Simon Zebo; Andrew Conway, Jaco Taute, Rory Scannell, Keith Earls; Tyler Bleyendaal, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Donnacha Ryan; Peter O'Mahony Capt., Jack O'Donoghue, CJ Stander.

Replacements: Rhys Marshall, James Cronin, Thomas Du Toit, Dave Foley, Billy Holland, Duncan Williams, Ian Keatley, Francis Saili.

Tommy O'Donnell is injured and replaced by Jack O'Donoghue.
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by reallybored on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 12:07 pm

15. Stuart Hogg
14. Tommy Seymour
13. Mark Bennett
12. Alex Dunbar
11. Lee Jones
10. Finn Russell
9. Ali Price

1. Gordon Reid
2. Fraser Brown
3. Zander Fagerson
4. Tim Swinson
5. Jonny Gray
6. Rob Harley
7. Ryan Wilson
8. Josh Strauss

Replacements:

16. Pat MacArthur
17. Alex Allan
18. D’arcy Rae
19. Matt Fagerson
20. Chris Fusaro
21. Grayson Hart
22. Nick Grigg
23. Peter Murchie

Not available due to injury: Firth (neck), Puafisi (concussion), Cummings (shoulder), Peterson (shoulder), Uanivi (shoulder), Smith (shoulder), Favaro (ankle), Pyrgos (knee), Horne (knee/ankle), Vernon (shoulder), Sarto (shoulder), Hughes (knee), Lamont (back)

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by IanBru on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 12:09 pm

Sin e, who's that Keith Earls guy? I haven't heard of him. Could you give us an update on his disciplinary history, and whether he likes to talk to journalists? You know, interesting stuff like that... Smile
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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by BigGee on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 12:14 pm

Good starting XV for Glasgow, not far short of their best these days I think.

Bench looks a little bit light though. Favaro injured again, he does spend a lot of time on the treatment table a consequence of the way he plays, hopefully back next week for Leicester.

I think Adam Ashe was not registered for the euro squad which might explain why he is missing. It is going to be a big ask of the 18 year old Matt Fargerson if he has to play any great amount of the game but I guess if you are good enough, you are old enough!

I can see a lot of the starters doing a very long stint tomorrow, with subs, outside of the front row, being mainly for injuries!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 1: Glasgow Warriors v Munster, 14 January

Post by R!skysports on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 1:23 pm

Could be a classic.

A win for either is a huge step to winning the group, especially for Munster.

If Glasgow win, it is all still on

How exciting

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