Time For doctor Who to be Rested Again.

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Time For doctor Who to be Rested Again.

Post by andygf on Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:58 pm

Have thought long and hard about this. As a 45 year old saddo whose first tv memories are of Sontarans, Harry and Sarah Jane, I will not stop watching the show, no matter what.
However  it has exhausted all decent stories and character developments, the arcs are boring, the focus of assistants is cloying and sentimental to the extreme, the Doctor keeps on calling things "rubbish", the music is over the top and manipulative, and the monsters have all been satirised and de-fanged; a comedy Sontaran, a comedy Cyberman, comedy Daleks, etc etc. The Ice Warriors were brought back awfully, the Zygons are now ciphers to hang liberal social commentary onto,  and even dear old Capaldi rattles off the dialogue  a la Matt Smith, (who was similar to Tennant)-albeit in a more asthmatic style.
I like Capaldi, the stories are just rotten.The ratings are now as low as when McCoy was the Doctor. They do a Xmas Special clearly as a franchise money-spinner and it is tacky beyond belief. The budget seems to be dropping more and more, and I dread to think what it will be like when Chris "Dinosaurs on a spaceship" Chisnall takes over.
BBc Worldwide have clearly been trying to get rid of Moffatt for ages. He made the stories incomprehensible, married the Doctor to the glib River Song, made him mourn and dote over Amy and then Clara, even acting stalkerish on occasion (The Impossible Girl thread) and perving over her too-tight skirt.
Moff's fave show is the West wing, and while I think this rat-a-tat dialogue is fine for that, or "Friends", it does not suit the show. But all the bad habits seem here to stay.
REst it for 5 years,say, and find just the right actor, get some fresh blood in for every department, and start again. It's painfully formulaic.
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Post by nadeem2099 on Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:19 am

They should make Doctor Who a post watershed show. Never gonna happen though.
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Post by Musclular-mouse on Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:11 pm

I stopped watching it after matt smith left.


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Post by lostinwales on Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:23 am

Moffat wrote one or two of the best DW episodes ever, but god knows where it went wrong. (Same thing is happening with Sherlock). A particular low point was vikings with electric eels, but the worst ever was the sandman one? you know - with the 'eye bogey' monsters and scenes taken directly from no less a source than the almost great scooby doo itself.

They must have completely run out of ideas.

But you know, they had a transgender actor so that just makes everything OK.

Capaldi should be a great doctor, but he can't save this rubbish

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Post by andygf on Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:12 pm

Thoughts after first episode.
Peter Capaldi gave a more nuanced style. I liked it.Less grimacing and more warmth.
Bill is a winner. let's hope she doesn't have to save the Universe to justify being an assistant.
Murray Gold's music accompaniment was intrusive but bearable.
How did Nardole become an assistant?
Another used storyline...Waters of Mars this time.Was Heather staring into a puddle because she wanted to get sucked in? There are only so many times that you can reasonably stare into a puddle.
The plot was not that good. Not sure that it made sense.
Still haven't changed the "clanging chimes of doom" Capaldi theme.
Humour was much better balanced than for years.Tongue in cheek humour all the same, the "this is ironic" humour that I hope will go when Chis arrives. Friends and West Wing are ok shows, but such a style does not suit British dialogue and Doctor Who in particular.
Please god, no more Daleks this season. We will probably see a comedy Dalek though is my guess.... Or the new Ice Warrior will have a nice line in sssssself-deprecation.
Susan will arrive at the end of the season. I guessed it anyway and the picture seals the deal. If that is in fact the ending, then I will forgive The Moff a lot..



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Post by andygf on Tue May 16, 2017 5:00 am

Anyone heard the rumours of Capaldi meeting The First Doctor?
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Post by lostinwales on Tue May 16, 2017 10:49 pm

andygf wrote:Thoughts after first episode.
Peter Capaldi gave a more nuanced style. I liked it.Less grimacing and more warmth.
Bill is a winner. let's hope she doesn't have to save the Universe to justify being an assistant.
Murray Gold's music accompaniment was intrusive but bearable.
How did Nardole become an assistant?
Another used storyline...Waters of Mars this time.Was  Heather staring into a puddle because she  wanted to get sucked in? There are only so many times that  you can  reasonably stare into a puddle.
The plot was not that good. Not sure that it made sense.
Still haven't changed the "clanging chimes of doom"  Capaldi theme.
Humour was much better balanced than for years.Tongue in cheek humour all the same, the "this is ironic" humour that I hope will go when Chis arrives. Friends and West Wing are ok shows, but such  a style does not suit British dialogue and Doctor Who in particular.
Please god, no more Daleks this season. We will probably see a comedy Dalek though is my guess.... Or the new Ice Warrior will have a nice line in sssssself-deprecation.
Susan will arrive at the end of the season. I guessed it anyway and the picture seals the deal. If that is in fact the ending, then I will forgive The Moff a lot..



 

1st episode was best for a while, although that is not saying a lot. been a bit downhill since then.

What was genuinely frustrating is that in better hands stories like the frozen Thames one might have been good. It wasn't. (but hey, as long as you can tick off all those right on inclusive labels why does it matter? Surely that means that we must have someone in the main cast with a disability too... Hmmm.)

Bill... good first episode. She is likable and has good moments, but some really cringe worthy ones too. Her acting can be just terrible at times.

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