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Post by Henman Bill on Fri 27 Jan 2017, 3:39 pm

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Federer vs Nadal and other matches on day 14.

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Re: Australian Open - Day Fourteen

Post by Born Slippy on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:12 am

Fed looks back in control again now. Has shortened the points in the last few games. 

On the downside, Wilander is driving me mental.

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Post by kemet on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:13 am

Henman Bill wrote:Rafa looks solid to me. Where are the increased errors that he does against everyone else in the last few years? Grrr.

He usually raises his level against Roger


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Post by Henman Bill on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:19 am

this game decides the set for me

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Post by kingraf on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:20 am

This is a very taxing game, and Federer doesn't
get a sit down. It Nadal holds I think he gets a
sniff next game
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Post by kingraf on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:22 am

Or not
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Post by Henman Bill on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:23 am

Continuing impressive level from Roger. Very impressive game in the context of the last one. He has really played the whole set very well apart from maybe the first game.

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Post by Born Slippy on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:24 am

Wilander - "I would think that Nadal is hoping for Federer to not miss" Rolling Eyes

Great hold from Fed though. This set looks won.

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Post by kingraf on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:26 am

Federer is covering some serious mileage on the Nadal return game even up a break. Guess he meant it when said he'll give it everything even if it sidelines him for six months
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Post by kingraf on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:28 am

Federer 5-1 up.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:29 am

And Roger gets another break to lead 5-1 in the third set.
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Post by mthierry on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:33 am

Nadal at least needed Federer to work longer for these 2 sets he's won. Federer has been a class above and it's looking really easy out there. Even if this went to a 5th - and It won't - Federer would be fresh enough to keep up the aggression and keep dominating.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:36 am

Federer takes the third set to lead two sets to one with almost two hours played.
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Post by kemet on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:37 am

It was ABSOLUTELY crucial for Roger to that third set at the first time of asking.

Now he needs to keep serving like he did in the first and third sets to even begin to think about slam #18.

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Re: Australian Open - Day Fourteen

Post by Henman Bill on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:38 am

Looking back at the set now you could say Federer dominated throughout. But such is the history of this rivalry that at 3-0 I really felt he had to get to 4-0 to win the set. And even at 5-1 Adv I was still feeling tension!

The good thing for Federer is that his forehand is back and he managed to combine most of the sh1t play, especially the errors into that one set, the second set.

Now will someone tell Rafa to make an unforced error from time to time?

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Post by mthierry on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:42 am

Too many technical issues in Nadal's game. He wouldn't have had a prayer against Nole or Andy. Needs more tournaments to keep improving. If he can avoid injuries, he should be peaking just in time for RG.

As it stands, this match is totally on Federer's racquet and the only thing Nadal can do is hope for a miracle collapse from Federer.

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Post by prostaff85 on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:49 am

You mean a collapse like he had in the 2nd set? Let's hope it won't happen but not sure that would be a miracle!

mthierry wrote:Too many technical issues in Nadal's game. He wouldn't have had a prayer against Nole or Andy. Needs more tournaments to keep improving. If he can avoid injuries, he should be peaking just in time for RG.

As it stands, this match is totally on Federer's racquet and the only thing Nadal can do is hope for a miracle collapse from Federer.
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Post by barrystar on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:52 am

Like losing his second service game in the 4th?
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Post by Matchpoint on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:53 am

Nadal can still turn it around. Seen it before.

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Re: Australian Open - Day Fourteen

Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:53 am

Nadal breaks in the fourth set to lead 3-1.
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Re: Australian Open - Day Fourteen

Post by kemet on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:53 am

Get ready for a 5th ladies and gentlemen.

A dreadful forehand miss in that last game

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Re: Australian Open - Day Fourteen

Post by temporary21 on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:54 am

Oh Christ not again
My heart can't take matches like this.

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Re: Australian Open - Day Fourteen

Post by temporary21 on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:54 am

Federer should win the 5th if it goes that far. But god how seesaw have all these matches been since the semis?

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Re: Australian Open - Day Fourteen

Post by kemet on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:55 am

temporary21 wrote:Oh Christ not again
My heart can't take matches like this.

Roger once again contrives a lost advantage

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Re: Australian Open - Day Fourteen

Post by Henman Bill on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:57 am

who do you support temp?

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Post by temporary21 on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:58 am

Rafa historically. Wouldn't hate a fed win though. Still a 5th set like 09 would be horrid on le nerves

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Post by temporary21 on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 10:58 am

Do think fed would make up for 09 if it goes that far

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Post by kemet on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:01 am

Yep....This is going five

Why, oh why did Roger miss that forehand at 0-1 to begin the 4th?

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Post by temporary21 on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:02 am

Because you e gotta miss something sometime

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Re: Australian Open - Day Fourteen

Post by Henman Bill on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:02 am

A 35-year old in his first tournament back after 6 months being the favourite in a 5th set against the player who has always been his toughest mental and physical opponent in the very tournament where he once folded in the 5th set after playing a previously awesome match? Not sure where you are getting that from.

Great point to end that game by the way. Has actually been a very good standard match, better than expected certainly.

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Post by kemet on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:02 am

Roger's problem is to that he has not found a way for his serving and forehand to remain consistent throughout this match

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Post by temporary21 on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:03 am

I'm getting it from nowhere bill. It just feels like destiny (hate that word)

Bit like wimby 07

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Post by kemet on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:04 am

Missed overhead

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Post by Henman Bill on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:08 am

that's 2 hours 30
match may be around 3 hours 30 by the end

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Post by kemet on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:13 am

Well at least Roger would serve first to begin the 5th if Rafa closes this 4th set out (as I expect him to)

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:16 am

And Rafa takes the fourth set 6-3 and we go to a decider.
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Post by kemet on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:16 am

Roger Federer fans; how are your nerves?

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Post by Haddie-nuff on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:17 am

This surely must have been the final we would have wished for ...going all the way

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Post by temporary21 on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:17 am

God damn it.

Fed to win this one. A bit of symmetry from 09


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Post by Henman Bill on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:18 am

Whatever happens here you have got to give Federer credit for going through Berdych, Nishikori and Stan, and for the way he played in sets 1 and 3 here against a Rafa that just isn't giving him free points. You can't really expect more at the age of 35 after the time he has had out.

Let's hope we get a better final set than Australian Open 2009 anyway.

Rafa strong favourite here, but it hasn't been a long match, and Federer seems in OK physical condition, so anything can happen. Still a minor miracle if he wins it.

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Post by temporary21 on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:20 am

They're both winners in a sense no matter what

Two legends

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Post by sirfredperry on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:20 am

Don't think Rog has ever lost a GS final against Rafa after being two sets to one up, but it could happen here. I think the del Potty loss at the USO in 2009 was the only time the Swiss relinquished a 2-1 lead in a GS title match.
Haven't seen any of it so far but, as I was expecting a Rog defeat in four, there is still hope. Reckon Rafa will come through, though. At least everyone has got a full match.

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Post by Henman Bill on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:21 am

The way they've both played I'd say the only thing keeping them out of the top 5 by year end would be fitness, injuries and motivation. Especially in the case of Federer. Rafa has played more like a 6-10 ranked player in recent years but he looks a better this match and with potentially 2000 ranking points here (or at least 1200) plus the clay court season to come, I think he could get into the top five.

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Post by Haddie-nuff on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:21 am

Not that confident HB.. Roger can dig deep when he has to.. I just hope that Rafa has a bigger shovel Wink

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Re: Australian Open - Day Fourteen

Post by Henman Bill on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:23 am

Nadal only leads 3-2 in matches that went to fully five sets

However that may be really because Federer got a couple of wins in against a young Nadal in matches where Nadal did well just to get to five.

Nadal =- AO 09, W 08, Rome 2006
Federer - W 2007, Miami 05


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Post by temporary21 on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:23 am

Federer turning to the dark side of the force. Can't blame him

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:26 am

Nadal upping his level and forces two break points. One saved by Roger he must hold serve here you feel.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:27 am

And there is the crucial break.
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Post by kemet on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:27 am

Congratulations to Rafael Nadal on grand slam #15.....I can't believe I fell for this again

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Post by temporary21 on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:28 am

Not yet guys

Fed fans take heart. Honestly this isn't over tet

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Post by temporary21 on Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:29 am

5 service holds is an effing loy

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