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Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 10:09 am

Breaking News: The biggest movers after Round 18 are Bristol, intensifying the battle to finish in the top 6. Sale Sharks have mathematically secured a play off spot for the end of the season.





2015/2016 - Sale Sharks
2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                           
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2Harlequins1813144914454656463461
3Northampton Saints*1812155004475358475559
4Newcastle Falcons    1812154684392950462557
5Saracens**1810264574312649422650
6Exeter Chiefs *186210439463-24425001037
7Bristol Rugby186111430460-30454801137
8Leicester Tigers*18639430462-3242510837
9Worcester Warriors 186012435461-26414701236
10Wasps*****186210435486-5149492631
11Gloucester184014438464-26434501329
12Bath Rugby****184014428472-44415301325

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Fluxy) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (Fluxy) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1994. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made by sending a PM to the RFU (Fluxy) and it will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Round Bidding 

    Open Bidding


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. £2m for 5 games, £1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: £8m
Runners Up: £6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: £5m
5th: £4m
6th: £3.5m
7th: £3m
8th: £2.5m
9th: £2m
10th: £1.5m
11th: £1m
12th: £0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (Fluxy) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 11:00 am

Morning Everyone.

I want to draw a line under this weekend.

Considering that I gladly accepted the help from Pooly, and managed to appreciate a weekend of not thinking about updating the pages (and forgetting do my predictions! picard). I did not appreciate the volume and tone of messages I have received.

What people seem to be forgetting is, and the phrase was even used in some messages, is that is a game. And not a matter of life and death.
There are deadlines in place on each match thread, and those are to be adhered to by everyone. I will admit, I have been lenient in the past, where possible, as my job allows me to access this site at work and therefore can update during the day at different times - if I am busy. In turn I would permit those that have advised me they cannot enter a side in time, or allowed a time of grace for someone to amend a selection, if I could not update the page.

This weekend, the thread was updated and managed to the limits (or similar to what I would do). And thus some (myself included), suffered as some players were selected for international duty and selected in my 23. Injuries were also selected, although I don't look so sympathetically on this, as they are not as random and could be avoided.

As a result, I will resume doing the results, threads and predictions, to avoid this ball-ache again.
I enjoy this game and even though I can be pressed for time at one or two moments, I don't mind it. But I have not enjoyed the snide comments, the one-upmanship and unsportsmanlike conduct. Rugby is an all encompassing sport, and brings a wide variety of opinions and supporters. Just because someone doesn't agree with your comment, or vice versa, does not require petty arguments to prove or disprove who is right. By all means discuss and debate, but it if you can't accept the difference or agree - then forget it and move on.

Results and points reductions will stand as they have occurred. However if another issue like this crops again. Well, frankly, you can all find someone else to manage, what I reiterate, is a game. In the words of the scouts, I will do my best.

Apologies for a moan on Monday morning and lets move on.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 11:17 am

Well said Flux, totally agree with all that thumbsup

Everything at the weekend was taken massively over the top, there's little need for escalate so much on a game.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by stnick88 on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 11:18 am

well said Flux.
one of the reasons I quit before was because it was constant arguing and tactical predictions. lets not go there again.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 11:44 am

Well said Flux. Personally struggling for time more and more now but the main reason I had no interest in running the game anymore was the narkyness. Fair play for putting the time in for all the threads and tables etc thumbsup

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by stnick88 on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 11:58 am

when do 6 nations teams announce who is sent back to clubs to get game time this weekend?

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 12:00 pm

I imagine mid week, probably Wednesday?

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 12:01 pm

So back to rugby....rumoured backline for Italy:

10. Farrell
11. Watson
12. Teo
13. JJ
14. Nowell
15. Daly

Id really like to see that. Great balance, pace and physicality.

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Post by BamBam on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 12:16 pm

That looks pretty good, is Watson due back by then? I thought he was out for the 6N .. May works just as well there though

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by stnick88 on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 12:16 pm

Agreed, maybe with Care at 9

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 12:17 pm

That would be the back line I would like to see given a go.
Agree nick, would like to Care given the start, but imagine it would be Youngs.

The pack has a little more to work on, especially to provide balance as well.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by stnick88 on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 12:18 pm

Lawes might be given a rest by all accounts, he was immense against Wales.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 12:23 pm

Yea he was fantastic, better than Launch imo.

Watson and Mako back

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by stnick88 on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 3:12 pm

http://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_/id/18674843/wales-flyer-dan-bigger-makes-case-british-irish-lions-pivot

where do they come up with this stuff? I wonder sometimes if people watch the same games or if they purely write stuff to wind people up and raise interest.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 6:37 pm

Bristol sign Luatua.....hope he enjoys the Championship.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by stnick88 on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 7:55 pm

Surely must have a get out clause if they get relegated?! Most players irish are signing have.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 10:21 pm

Thanks to all of you for all your hard work on this game, I hope nobody said anything too nasty, let's all keep enjoying the fun Smile
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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 10:17 am

Table updated OK 

I know we haven't done one of these for a while, but I'm intrigued on opinions. 

Top 10 - Looseheads

1. M Vunipola
2. McGrath
3. Marler
4. Moody
5. Sio
6. Healy
7. Kitshoff
8. R Evans
9. Baille
10. ? All much of a muchness - Mullan?

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 10:33 am

This should be fun! I always think they're less biased when you can't select one of your players.

Not a real position of strength at the minute prop. Primary duty is scrummaging so that rules out a fair few straight away! Personally don't think there's a standout and very little between many of them.

1. McGrath
2. Ben Arous
3. Marler
4. Noguera
5. Kitchoff
6. Vuinipola
7. Moody
8. Baille
9. Sio
10. Beast

A fair few of these are interchangeable really.

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Post by BamBam on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 10:36 am

1. McGrath
2. Moody
3. EBA
4. Paz
5. Mako

Find it hard to rank anyone else much further than that

I'll start off hookers too

1. Coles
2. Moore
3. Best
4. Strauss
5. George (he'll be top two soon Wink)

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 10:39 am

Forgot about Paz  Rolling Eyes

Hookers is quite a bit easier with more options

1. Coles
2. Moore
3. Best
4. Creevy 
5. Guirado
6. Hartley
7. George
8. C Taylor
9. Strauss
10. K Owens

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 10:41 am

I'd have Guirado top of the NH right now....not to be biased! lol

1. Creevy
2. Coles
3. Guirado
4. Moore
5. Best
6. George
7. Hartley

Not much after that really.

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Post by Fluxy on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 10:44 am

I do think that Coles is the undisputed #1, just because he can affect a game much more than the others. 
Creevy, Best and Guirado follow suite, but not to the same impact. Moore's basics are much better and take him above them.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 10:47 am

Cole is a hell of a rugby player but just a good hooker imo. Moore a classy operator but not had the best of years so moves down a bit.

Creevy is my favourite, followed by Guirado. Blokes as wide as they are tall and big scrummagers!

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by pullthestrings on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 11:49 am

Anyone about for a deal? Mainly looking for tight 5 options...

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 11:50 am

Around mate OK

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Post by BamBam on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 11:51 am

Me too

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Post by pullthestrings on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 12:01 pm

Fluxy can you update my link in the table please Very Happy

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Post by Fluxy on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 12:02 pm

of course OK

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 12:04 pm

pullthestrings wrote:Fluxy can you update my link in the table please Very Happy
 Done  thumbsup

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Post by pullthestrings on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 12:05 pm

Many thanks... just need to get it nearer the top of table now!

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Post by Fluxy on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 12:16 pm

So George Ford back to Tigers and Burns to his boyhood team Bath. 

Not sure Ford is exactly what Leicester need, but would probably help them in the long run.

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Post by CJB on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 2:39 pm

1. McGrath
2. EBA
3. Mako
4. Sio
5. Marler
6. Kitchoff
7. Healy
8. Baile
9. Evans
10. Paz

1. Coles
2. Moore
3. Best
4. Guirado
5. Hartley
6. Strauss
7. Creevey
8. George
9. Montoya
10. Owens

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Tue 14 Feb 2017, 7:34 pm

For me:

1) McGrath
2) Mako
3) Marler
4) EBA
5) Paz
6) Moody
7) Kitschoff
8) Baille
9) Sio
10) Evans



Hookers:

1) Creevy
2) Coles
3) Guirado
4) Moore
5) Best
6) Strauss
7) Montoya
8) George
9) Marx
10) Hartley

Rate Brown from Scotland too. BDP still in the mix


TH:

1) Furlong
2) Slimani
3) Franks
4) Herrera
5) Kepu
6) Nel
7) Cole
8) Antonio
9) Zirakashvili
10) Kubriashvili

Sinckler will be there soon. Always rated Big Ben too. fagerson has promise too
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 4:07 am

TH's.....

1. Herrera
2. Cole
3. Furlong
4. Slimani
5. Nel
6. Kepu
7. Zirikashvili
8. Franks
9. Francis
10. Ben T

Again, not too much between these. The top 5 are interchangeable pretty much. Furlong has come from nowhere really, crazy.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 4:24 am

Fluxy wrote:So George Ford back to Tigers and Burns to his boyhood team Bath. 

Not sure Ford is exactly what Leicester need, but would probably help them in the long run.

He had to move, he's not been great for Bath this season and just doesn't seem to be enjoying his rugby. Tigers may be the best place although they don't look like a top side currently, quite a way off to be honest.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 8:06 am

CJB wrote:1. McGrath
2. EBA
3. Mako
4. Sio
5. Marler
6. Kitchoff
7. Healy
8. Baile
9. Evans
10. Paz

1. Coles
2. Moore
3. Best
4. Guirado
5. Hartley
6. Strauss
7. Creevey
8. George
9. Montoya
10. Owens

I would have Beast and moody in the top 10 easily. Both better than SIO, kitshoff and many more

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 9:41 am

Might as well join in.

LH

1. McGrath
2. EBA
3. Mako
4. Moody
5. Marler
6. Sio
7. Kitchoff
8. Paz
9. Healy
10. Beast

HK

1. Coles
2. Moore
3. Guirado
4. Creevey
5. Best
6. Hartley
7. Strauss
8. Montoya
9. George
10. Marx

TH

1. Slimani
2. Franks
3. Nel
4. Kepu
5. Furlong
6. Cole
7. Herrera
8. Zirka
9. Koch
10. Antonio

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 9:48 am

Locks ..

Retallick
Whitelock
Itoje
Kruis
Etzebeth
J Gray
Petti
PDST
Lawes
Launchbury

Quite amazed that I'd put 4 English guys in the top 10 at the moment

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 9:54 am

Locks.....mmmmmm.

1. Whitelock
2. Retallick
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3. Kruis
4. Itoje
5. Lawes
6. J Gray
7. Etzebeth
8. Henderson
9. AWJ
10. Launchbury

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Post by BamBam on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 10:04 am

I'd have another 5 before AWJ and Henderson is a better 6 than lock for me, he doesn't seem like a great set piece lock but has some physicality.

Its crazy that its so NH dominant a position at the moment

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 10:08 am

1. Retalick
2. Whitelock
3. Itoje
4. Etzebeth
5. J Gray
6. Kruis
7. PSDT
8. Launchbury
9. De Jager
10. Henderson

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 10:10 am

I'm not a huge AWJ fan but he does have his merits and outplayed the English 3 at the weekend imo.

I really like Henderson, perhaps more so at lock, but agree he's one of those that flits in between quite easily.

Stacks of NH options but the NZ pair are well ahead of the rest imo. Can see Itoje eventually breaking that combo, but not yet.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 10:11 am

Agree on AWJ. Decent player but never thought he was truly world class. Wouldn't get the press he gets if he wasn't Welsh. Don't think he starts for any of the other home nations currently

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 10:13 am

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:1. Retalick
2. Whitelock
3. Itoje
4. Etzebeth
5. J Gray
6. Kruis
7. PSDT
8. Launchbury
9. De Jager
10. Henderson

Surprised to see Etzebeth up there Johnny. When he first came on the scene he looked like he'd be a star for years but has really went off the boil the last year or so. Seems more interested in roughing people up than actually playing rugby, I think he's trying too hard to be the tough man. I've got him just scraping a top 10 at the minute but he's nowhere near the NZ and probably the English options.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 10:24 am

I think he's harshly judged sometimes, because of the potential he had, he looked liked he'd be a cross between Bakkies Botha and Ivan Drago.

He's still a very good lock but maybe just isn't doing the eye catching stuff like running over Bismarck etc that he was doing when he came on the scene, but still great at the basics

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 10:28 am

I'm not convinced Bam, he seems to have not reached his potential and actually got worse this last year or so. He's had a fair few big injuries, maybe he's just struggling to get back in form after these.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by stnick88 on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 11:03 am

yeh for me Etzebeth not the player he was.

launchbury better then Henderson for me.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 11:40 am

Personally love Etzebeth. Throwback to the old style compared to some of the new locks. Poor 12 months doesn't take away from what hes done since bursting onto the scene for me

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by stnick88 on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 11:45 am

no doubt he is a great player, but I think Lawes and Launch for example do that bit more around the park.

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