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Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Mon 13 Feb 2017, 10:09 am

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Fluxy) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (Fluxy) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1994. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made by sending a PM to the RFU (Fluxy) and it will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Round Bidding 

    Open Bidding


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. £2m for 5 games, £1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: £8m
Runners Up: £6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: £5m
5th: £4m
6th: £3.5m
7th: £3m
8th: £2.5m
9th: £2m
10th: £1.5m
11th: £1m
12th: £0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (Fluxy) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 12:33 pm

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Personally love Etzebeth. Throwback to the old style compared to some of the new locks. Poor 12 months doesn't take away from what hes done since bursting onto the scene for me

Does he still do that though? All I see lately is him getting into scuffs and getting outplayed. I thought he would be a real throwback as you say but it's just not happened like that. Locks these days are more mobile and athletic, the game has kind of moved on.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 2:48 pm

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Might as well join in.

LH

1. McGrath
2. EBA
3. Mako
4. Moody
5. Marler
6. Sio
7. Kitchoff
8. Paz
9. Healy
10. Beast

HK

1. Coles
2. Moore
3. Guirado
4. Creevey
5. Best
6. Hartley
7. Strauss
8. Montoya
9. George
10. Marx

TH

1. Slimani
2. Franks
3. Nel
4. Kepu
5. Furlong
6. Cole
7. Herrera
8. Zirka
9. Koch
10. Antonio


Slimani not top 10. Can't even get in French starting lineup.

Great scrummager but worse than Julian white across park and targeted by defences

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 2:55 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:1. Retalick
2. Whitelock
3. Itoje
4. Etzebeth
5. J Gray
6. Kruis
7. PSDT
8. Launchbury
9. De Jager
10. Henderson

Surprised to see Etzebeth up there Johnny. When he first came on the scene he looked like he'd be a star for years but has really went off the boil the last year or so. Seems more interested in roughing people up than actually playing rugby, I think he's trying too hard to be the tough man. I've got him just scraping a top 10 at the minute but he's nowhere near the NZ and probably the English options.


To be honest pooly if there is any player I own you take a dim view of them and do this thinly veiled formulaic garbage as ever. If people are dim enough to follow your rhetoric then so be it.

We could list all of your "classics" from carter, Etzbeth and burger being finished to Moriarty being a poor defender.

Please stop this relentless diatribe and move on. It's boring and you are ruining the game.

I was not one of the people who messaged flux on weekend but it's obvious every one is sick of it.

This rubbish is ruining the game

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 3:19 pm

Rolling Eyes

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 3:24 pm

Having an opinion is not "ruining the game Matt", lighten up pal. We're discussing top 10's and Etzebeth is a relevant discussion.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 5:25 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Having an opinion is not "ruining the game Matt", lighten up pal. We're discussing top 10's and Etzebeth is a relevant discussion.


Yawn your thinly veiled rubbish is a disgrace. Maybe a few morons agree with you?. If so it reflects on them worse than you. Every Time you Comment it's re a player of mine or Chris which in itself is childish and not much of an issue/ however it's
Relentless and basically sad. Apparently you are a grown man although judging your behaviour I would say you are 5ft 2 with issues.

Let's be fair tactical voting
Is even worse with anonymity and when Pete called you out as a cheat it was correct. You are the Only
Person he ever called out as a cheat in all the years.


Had enough like
Many and will see year out and that's it:


You should be ashamed of your
Conduct and if you have kids you should be more ashamed.

Rant over you are moron and this will never change. You set up to be
Be a WUM and congrats I have bitten.



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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 5:51 pm

Matt, chill out man, you'll do yourself some damage.

It's a rugby game ffs.....you're a 40yo bloke getting upset because somebody put your lock at 7th best in the world, have some perspective.

I really like you and think we can be friends........come on, lets make up Hug

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 5:53 pm

P.S.....I'm 6ft with no kids and no obvious mental issues, although others may disagree.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by ChequeredJersey on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 10:34 pm

Pooly, was there any feedback for the Bristol game last week?
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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 4:01 am

Sorry CJ, sorted.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 7:10 am

Laidlaw out of the 6N, big loss for Scotland.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 9:16 am

Jesus, leave work on time for once and it all kicks off

Matt, I try not to get involved with the "debates" that you, Pooly and Chris have, but to call other people who may share an opinon with Pooly "morons" and "dim" is out of line

Pooly listed Etzebeth 7th, I listed him 5th and SJE put him 4th, are we equally moronic for not putting him top?

Its a bloody game, treat it like one

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 5:13 pm

BamBam wrote:Jesus, leave work on time for once and it all kicks off

Matt, I try not to get involved with the "debates" that you, Pooly and Chris have, but to call other people who may share an opinon with Pooly "morons" and "dim" is out of line

Pooly listed Etzebeth 7th, I listed him 5th and SJE put him 4th, are we equally moronic for not putting him top?

Its a bloody game, treat it like one

Yawn

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 5:21 pm

Oldest bloke in the game.......amazing

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 5:25 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Oldest bloke in the game.......amazing

You have always been the biggest cheat. No one can steal that title: every one of the originals has left due to your less than honest ways.


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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 5:28 pm

BamBam wrote:Jesus, leave work on time for once and it all kicks off

Matt, I try not to get involved with the "debates" that you, Pooly and Chris have, but to call other people who may share an opinon with Pooly "morons" and "dim" is out of line

Pooly listed Etzebeth 7th, I listed him 5th and SJE put him 4th, are we equally moronic for not putting him top?

Its a bloody game, treat it like one

If yuh share those views you definitely are a moron or dim
It's fact.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 5:31 pm

You're just embarressing yourself Matt, what has Bam done to you?

Youre a 40yo bloke, youre acting like a 10yo.

Keyboard warrior springs to mind......

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 5:36 pm

Just being honest pooly. Your cheating and dishonest ways which have blighted the game need challenging.

I don't think Bam is dim. However if he agrees with your stats based view on rugby he is.

As for keyboard warrior ? I played the game for 25 years and have never backed down from anyone. Particularly some stupid ex forces person.

Game needed some honesty so I have brought it.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 5:38 pm

#keyboardwarrior

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 5:41 pm

Very grown up of you:
It's over now I will only comment on rugby and get involved in rugby debate:

Needed to clear
The air.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 5:46 pm

By insulting half the guys in the game and the UK military....wow.

Lets move on then Matt my old chum.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Matty on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 9:38 pm

Wow you banned me from forums what a man sausage

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Hero on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 10:00 pm

Erm no, I did.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by stnick88 on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 10:22 pm

This is all getting a bit weird

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Hero on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 10:39 pm

I've given Matt a 1 day sin bin to cool himself down.

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by ChequeredJersey on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 12:09 am

This is getting old


Personally I'm for everyone acting like adults and moving on, though if people want my two cents I can give it
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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 5:59 am

Why the hell not CJ, we've certainly crossed a line this week.

BS's?

1. CJ Stander
2. Kaino
3. Haskell
4. Fardy
5. Robshaw
6. Gorgodze

Bit stuck after that, theres so many interchanging these days.

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Post by prop_lyd on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 8:32 am

Interesting seeing these rankings. I genuinely struggle to get top 10's think it is so close between players especially in the back row as you say pooly with inter changing!

Also, as an aside, if the Gloucester name becomes free I am claiming first dibs on moving my Worcester squad to Castle Grim!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 8:52 am

6 was especially tough. In years gone by we've had Smith, Burger, Ferris etc who've been amazing. It's another really weak position when you look at what is out there.

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Post by prop_lyd on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 9:05 am

Yeah there's a lot of 'good' 6's but no stand out w.c ones.
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Post by BamBam on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 9:22 am

Matera!!! Wink

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 9:35 am

Well, this is a mess. Can't even leave for a few minutes  picard

Also have a few PMs to read as well.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 10:03 am

Glossing over the above... I see Isa has signed for Toulon for 2 years. Wonder if Argentina will bend their eligibility rules for him. If not hes very young to be giving up on internationals. Must be a huge contract.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 10:04 am

Forgot about Matera, good shout.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 10:09 am

I'd have POM, SOB, Lobbe & Burger above a few of those. Moriarty looks a prospect but a bit soon for top 10.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 10:13 am

I think after Kaino & CJ they are all much of a muchness atm. Could make an argument for a dozen or so players who are all similar level

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 10:14 am

Forgot about POM! Burger perhaps sneaks in, Moriarty not there yet, needs to add more to his game despite some good defensive showings. Agree Jognny...not much in it. 7's....

1. Pocock (although he's quit rugby for a year so not sure if still eligible for a top 10??)
2. Cane
3. Louw
4. Hooper
5. Tips
6. Haskell/Robshaw
7. Warburton
8. SOB
9. Todd
10. VDF

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Post by BamBam on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 10:34 am

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Glossing over the above... I see Isa has signed for Toulon for 2 years. Wonder if Argentina will bend their eligibility rules for him. If not hes very young to be giving up on internationals. Must be a huge contract.

I agree, but if they do its probably going to lead to the likes of Matera/Cordero/Sanchez doing the same

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Post by prop_lyd on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 10:37 am

Moriarty hasn't fully got his position for me yet. If he could get a bit more yardage with his carries and consistency he could look at either 6 or 8 for his position. Glos have a huge back row next year with Moriarty-Fearns-Morgan! Plus Rowan-ludlow-Evans to come on.
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 10:37 am

Wouldn't have either of the English lads there. Top BS's and work well together but better 7s out there. OS definetly dominated by the SH boys.

1. Pocock
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2. Cane
3. Hooper (although far from the traditional 7!)
4. Louw
5. SOB
6. Warbs
7. Todd
8. Tips
9. Savea
10. Kriel

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Post by prop_lyd on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 10:38 am

Didn't realise how highly Todd is actually rated. Quite like seeing that and seeing Paz rated well for looseheads!!
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 10:40 am

Massive fan of Todd Prop. Would walk in to most NH sides for me. Never got top ratings while McCaw was around but got more chances now with him gone. If Kvesic wasn't EQ I'd have never let him go/

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 10:44 am

BamBam wrote:
SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Glossing over the above... I see Isa has signed for Toulon for 2 years. Wonder if Argentina will bend their eligibility rules for him. If not hes very young to be giving up on internationals. Must be a huge contract.

I agree, but if they do its probably going to lead to the likes of Matera/Cordero/Sanchez doing the same
Thats the risk Bam. Don't want to go the way of the Boks. Of those mentioned Sanchez is the key man but I'd think he's the most likely to move north as well unfortunately for them.

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Post by prop_lyd on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 10:54 am

I guess for Argentina maybe now would be the time to let them go for two years? Then be back for the world cup?
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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 11:20 am

Theyve surely got to allow some to move to bring through the next crop? Its tough running with only one top class side. Stacks of top 8's

1. Read
2. Vuinipola
3. Parisse
4. Isa
5. Picamoles
6. Faletau
7. Vermeulen
8. Hughes
9. Strauss
10. Heaslip

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 11:23 am

I'd drop Parisse and move Faletau up but not far off

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 11:33 am

Hughes not at that level yet for me anyways

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 11:44 am

1. Read
2. Vuinipola
3. Isa
4. Vermeulen
5. Picamoles
6. Faletau
7. Heaslip
8. Parisse
9. Whitely
10. Strauss

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 11:48 am

SHs

1. Smith
2. Murray
3. Webb
4. TJ
5. Youngs
6. Genia
7. Laidlaw
8. Cubelli
9. Pienarr
10. Care

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Re: Season 9 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 12:04 pm

1. Smith
2. Webb
3. Youngs
4. Murray
5. TJ
6. Laidlaw

Cubelli, Care etc after that

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