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6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by bsando on Mon 20 Feb 2017, 11:04 am

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Scotland vs Wales


Date: Saturday 25th February 2017
Venue: BT Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
Kick Off: 2:25pm
Referee: John Lacey (Ireland)
TV Coverage: Live on BBC

Weather Update


Teams

Scotland

1. Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors)
2. Faiser Brown (Glasgow Warriors)
3. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors)
4. Richie Gray (Toulouse)
5. Johnny Gray (Glasgow Warriors)
6. John Barclay (C) (Scarlets)
7. John Hardie (Edinburgh)
8. Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors)

9. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors)
10. Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors)
11. Tim Visser (Harlequins)
12. Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors)
13. Huw Jones (Stormers)
14. Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors)
15. Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors)

Replacements

16 Ross Ford (Edinburgh)
17 Allan Dell (Edinburgh)
18 Simon Berghan (Edinburgh)
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors)
20 Hamish Watson (Edinburgh)
21 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors)
22 Duncan Weir (Edinburgh)
23 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors)


Wales

1 Rob Evans (Scarlets)
2 Ken Owens (Scarlets)
3 Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs)
4 Jake Ball (Scarlets)
5 Alun Wyn Jones (C) (Ospreys)
6 Sam Warburton (Cardiff Blues)
7 Justin Tipuric (Ospreys)
8 Ross Moriarty (Gloucester)

9 Rhys Webb (Ospreys)
10 Dan Biggar (Ospreys)
11 Liam Williams (Scarlets)
12 Scott Williams (Scarlets)
13 Jonathan Davies (Scarlets)
14 George North (Northampton)
15 Leigh Halfpenny (Toulon)

Replacements

16 Scott Baldwin (Ospreys)
17 Nicky Smith (Ospreys)
18 Samson Lee (Scarlets)
19 Luke Charteris (Bath)
20 Taulupe Faletau (Dragons)
21 Gareth Davies (Scarlets)
22 Sam Davies (Ospreys)
23 Jamie Roberts (Harlequins)


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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by RiscaGame on Thu 23 Feb 2017, 10:39 pm

The U20 game randomly starts at 20:30 too. There's no way they can turn off the Cardiff game early. What a farce.

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by tigertattie on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 8:05 am

Captain Barclay showing how it's done

If you're at work, reduce your volume

http://www.rugbyonslaught.com/2017/02/breaking-john-barclay-has-scared-out-of.html?m=1
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by Griff on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 10:30 am

Here's a nice piece on John Barclay, but by Welsh players who are his team mates at the Scarlets:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39069718

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by funnyExiledScot on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 10:37 am

Griff wrote:Here's a nice piece on John Barclay, but by Welsh players who are his team mates at the Scarlets:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39069718

Great to see a piece like that. Maybe not all Welsh people are bad..... Wink

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 10:44 am

Griff wrote:Here's a nice piece on John Barclay, but by Welsh players who are his team mates at the Scarlets:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39069718

awwww what a nice bunch!

NOW GET OUT THERE AND TEAR THEM A NEW BOTTOM ORIFICE! Hug kiss
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by nickj on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 10:47 am

What a refreshingly open and honest piece. No minds games, just mutual respect from team mates - perhaps we could all learn a thing or two from that.

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by funnyExiledScot on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 2:57 pm

The Welsh posters have gone quiet on here. I smell fear.

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by IanBru on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:08 pm

Living on a diet of BBC ScrumOne-Eyed, I imagine it's disconcerting to see Welsh players actually talking up someone who plays for the opposition.
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:10 pm

Honestly, this game.

Of all the games I want to win, this is up there.
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by Griff on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:15 pm

Me too Radge, as I said earlier in the post. This is THE must win game of the tournament for me. Genuinely want to win this one more so than beating England.

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by Griff on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:16 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:The Welsh posters have gone quiet on here. I smell fear.


We've been trampled to death by all of the dark horses Wink

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:21 pm

From a Scottish perspective beating Wales means:

1. It's not a false dawn anymore, the sun has finally risen on Scottish rugby after a horrific 17 years.
2. It'll prove we have finally turned a corner. Sure we won 2 games last season but Italy were a shambles and France weren't much better. Beating Ireland, and potentially Wales and definitley Italy will mean Cotter as led us out of the dark ages.
3. being confident can't hurt our chances at Twickers with their bags of money, bags of this and bags of that.
4. We are due one against Wales.
5. I can finally tell my dad to stop being a tiresome one eyed welsh armchair fan.
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by munkian on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:23 pm

Griff wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:The Welsh posters have gone quiet on here. I smell fear.


We've been trampled to death by all of the dark horses Wink

And started drinking
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:25 pm

I also really really really want to beat Wales - more so than anyone.

It is nothing personal it is just about time we did and there have been so many close results over the years!

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by munkian on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:25 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:I also really really really want to beat Wales - more so than anyone.

It is nothing personal it is just about time we did and there have been so many close results over the years!

We are your Australia. Except you occasionally beat them Crying or Very sad
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by Recwatcher16 on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:34 pm

Scotland have a great chance tomorrow.

Wales are remarkably light on effective ball carriers. Moriarty can tackle but is neither big or quick enough to make the hard yards. Ball is the only power player on the gainline. That and the welsh midfield being the slowest in Welsh history gives Scotland opportunities. Webb at SH will provide a big threat though, against his inexperienced opposite number.

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by munkian on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:43 pm

I wouldn't say SW is particularly slow ?

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:44 pm

I also wouldn't say we had that many more big ball carriers, especially with Strauss out and no number 8 on the bench.

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by Recwatcher16 on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:52 pm

Whenever I watch Wales the midfield it is just so ponderous and only gets threatening once the ball eventually gets out to the wings.
Not sure the Scottish attacking gameplan is about ball carriers - is it ?

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by chris_501 on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:58 pm

I think when you include Scott Williams, JD2 and North, we don't have huge ball carriers, but we have a lot of decent ones.

Warburton, Moriarty, Owens, Evans and Ball all carry a lot, but like Scotland, we tend to be better trying to carry around rather than through. That's why I think and hope tomorrow's game could be a cracker!


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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by tigertattie on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 4:37 pm

Soooooooooooo up for this game now!
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by BigGee on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 4:42 pm

I see Duncan Taylor is down to play at FB for Sarries this weekend. Hope he gets out on the pitch this week and finally gets his season back on track.

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by Griff on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 5:15 pm

Recwatcher16 wrote:Scotland have a great chance tomorrow.

Wales are remarkably light on effective ball carriers. Moriarty can tackle but is neither big or quick enough to make the hard yards. Ball is the only power player on the gainline. That and the welsh midfield being the slowest in Welsh history gives Scotland opportunities. Webb at SH will provide a big threat though, against his inexperienced opposite number.

Hmmm, I agree our midfield isn't the quickest. But slowest in history for Wales surely has to be one that includes Jamie Roberts. Scott Williams is light years faster than Roberts. Roberts (on the bench) I genuinely think is slower than our two flankers and possible our hooker too.

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by Griff on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 7:14 pm

F*CK I'm excited! I'm doing my wife's head in already! And she knows the excitement will soon change to being unbearably tense and snappy tomorrow morning before leaving the house to watch the game. I'll be climbing the walls tomorrow morning.

Can't stop whistling 'Flower of Scotland' either!

'Mon Wales!

Wales

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by True Raven on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 7:30 pm

This Scotland team to me should be respected but not feared. I don't think their pack is up to much so I'm hoping Wales forwards can starve the Scottish backline possession.

I do hope though that Wales tactics of keeping the ball in play is abolished because Hogg has too much pace to give him too much time and space to run

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by Gwlad on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 7:37 pm

I'd have started Davies v Hogg. Biggar can't help himself with his counter kicking not to mention JD2. QED i expect we'll see more kicking to touch (so i would have started Charteris) and generally less kicking anyway; put turnover ball through the hands which could make the game exciting. I also think the Scots will come out to hammer us up front in the first third. Expect very high tempo route 1 stuff in the Scots pack and hope we can hold them within 10 points until the game opens up. Inevitably we''ll go behind in the first half.

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 8:17 pm

First blood Scotland - our woman have won a 6N game for the first time in 7 years!!

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by Griff on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 10:21 pm

Tackling optional in the U20s game by the looks of it. 100 points scored between the 2 sides over all!

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by maestegmafia on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 8:37 am

Wales had racked up two tries within eight minutes, more by individual skill than lack of Scottish defence. A third before half time, answered by two powerful Scottish tries.

Looks like wales have some very exciting players coming through.

As with the previous match, those players who have already experienced Regional rugby look a class above the rest, even if they aren't yet fulfilling their potential at regional level.

Great match to watch. The ladies game was a thriller too. Harsh to lose so late on but the scots had some canny backs.

And now for the big one in Edinburgh.

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by George Carlin on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 9:56 am

Griff wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:The Welsh posters have gone quiet on here. I smell fear.


We've been trampled to death by all of the dark horses Wink
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by BigGee on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 10:02 am

Griff wrote:Tackling optional in the U20s game by the looks of it. 100 points scored between the 2 sides over all!

I think the Edinburgh defence coach has been giving them some sessions

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:00 pm

Come on Scotland!!

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by SecretFly on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:26 pm

I think Wales will have a few surprise well rehearsed tricks. Scotland better be very alert for the whole game.

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by nathan on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:27 pm

Was looking forward to seeing this match until I noticed who was reffing. Ireland are so lucky

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:32 pm

Tidy start Scotland

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by nathan on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:34 pm

How does Biggar not get pinged more for being mouthy to the ref

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by tigertattie on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:34 pm

Both teams looking up for this

Ref missing a few things from both teams
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by nathan on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:36 pm

tigertattie wrote:Both teams looking up for this

Ref missing a few things from both teams

Spot on.

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by tigertattie on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:38 pm

Can someone tell halfpenny to stop pulling the grass out the ground! Doesn't he know how much we paid for that?
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:39 pm

Good to see Lacey being consistent with the lineout.

Finn!!!

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by tigertattie on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:41 pm

Dan biggar. Go play football. Ffs
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:42 pm

We're looking little un imaginative in attack

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:42 pm

We could do with some territory!

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by tigertattie on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:45 pm

We could do with someone tackling dan biggar's face with their boot!
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by eirebilly on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:46 pm

tigertattie wrote:Dan biggar. Go play football. Ffs

That sort of thing really annoys me. Just no need for it, was a good competition.
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by nathan on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:47 pm

Refs need to come down hard on the Welsh half back pairing, mouthy as Frak

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:48 pm

This game's been crap

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by tigertattie on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:51 pm

Too easy
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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by nathan on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:51 pm

Feel for Scotland, shouldn't of been a Welsh scrum as it was directly from a kick

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Re: 6N 2017: Scotland vs Wales, 25th Feb

Post by Eejit on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 2:52 pm

We're pish. Business as usual.

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