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Post by Hero on Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:11 pm

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Shall I sort lawyers?

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Post by Fernando on Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:45 am

wont til he moves

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Post by Afro on Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:45 am

I know. Just noticed than on Ruben Neves Sad

Net net with Gelson Martins' increase as well I made +£2.5m.

I was also going to buy Nelson Semedo this afternoon once bonuses had landed, but won't be doing that now. He went up around £5m Sad gutted
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Post by Afro on Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:50 am

Also really surprised Alex Grimaldo didn't move at all. One of the best attacking WBs in the CL this season before his injury.

Oh well, glad I sold him now!
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Post by Hero on Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:03 am

Pretty much agree with the Portuguese changes tbh.

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Post by Hero on Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:04 am

Presume no one wants Kante?

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Post by Fernando on Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:07 am

not interested more like can't afford Laugh id imagine for most.

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Post by Afro on Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:01 am

Can we add our bonuses now?
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Post by Holymiky on Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:44 am

Yeah

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Post by Holymiky on Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:47 am

BamBam wrote:In my admittedly biased opinion, my midfield would completely dominate against Motta who is being phased out of the PSG side and Behrami who is ultimately a Watford player.

Miky was set up to face a 4-4-2, not a 4-3-3, and if Alonso and Moses are pushing on, that leaves Mane up against Kaboul out wide, which quite frankly is a torching

I can't see any threat from Sarabia and Immobile against my defence, and have tactically countered Robben already to limit his effect on the game - Tierney played against Barcelona and City without embarassing himself so I'm a bit miffed 

Nothing personal Miky, just slightly frustrating

Understand the frustrations but I'm pretty sure I didn't set Motta or Capoue to push forward so the defensive line would be more protected in that case. 

In terms of Robben, people just know he's dangerous, it's no different to someone having Lewandowski up front against 2 solid CB's. He's still dangerous.

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Post by Holymiky on Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:58 am

*Behrami and Motta

I said Behrami would do a lot of the movement.

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Post by Trebs on Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:49 am

Good signing that Alex Telles Whistle

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Post by Afro on Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:57 am

Laugh he was good for the whole period he was on
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Post by Hero on Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:46 pm

Anyone want Malang Sarr before I off him to lawyers, good back up CB to have in.

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Post by Fernando on Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:37 pm

My tactics are in The Lotion League Locker Room - Page 2 3559488474 Good Luck Hero it'll be interesting to see how my tactics goes down Laugh

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Post by Trebs on Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:49 pm

Fernando wrote:My tactics are in The Lotion League Locker Room - Page 2 3559488474 Good Luck Hero it'll be interesting to see how my tactics goes down Laugh

I wouldn't worry about it too much. You can do every single thing right tactically and still not get the win because the other team is judged to have a better XI.

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Post by Hero on Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:51 pm

Trebs wrote:
Fernando wrote:My tactics are in The Lotion League Locker Room - Page 2 3559488474 Good Luck Hero it'll be interesting to see how my tactics goes down Laugh

I wouldn't worry about it too much. You can do every single thing right tactically and still not get the win because the other team is judged to have a better XI.

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Post by BamBam on Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:52 pm

Trebs wrote:
Fernando wrote:My tactics are in The Lotion League Locker Room - Page 2 3559488474 Good Luck Hero it'll be interesting to see how my tactics goes down Laugh

I wouldn't worry about it too much. You can do every single thing right tactically and still not get the win because the other team is judged to have a better XI.

Or not have a better XI but have an ageing former superstar winger who is apparently more effective than Messi

Salty and proud

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Post by Afro on Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:54 pm

For me, tactics and starting XI carry equal weight in my decisions.

But what that means is someone with a better starting XI has to do less tactically.

Whilst having a better starting XI doesn't automatically give you a win, neither does doing the better tactics.

You can have the worse team but get everything tactically bang on, but if the other manager does enough tactically, they can still beat you
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Post by Fernando on Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:00 am

I do like how Bam is complaining over Robben Laugh Everyone knows he cuts in on his left foot but you won't many teams that's ever stopped him actually doing it Laugh

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Post by BamBam on Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:02 am

Fernando wrote:I do like how Bam is complaining over Robben Laugh Everyone knows he cuts in on his left foot but you won't many teams that's ever stopped him actually doing it Laugh

Well I'm also complaining about how Motta (can't get into the strongest PSG team) and Behrami (Who?) apparently do enough to prevent 3 of the best young midfielders in Europe from running the game and not giving the other side a kick .. think PSG vs Barca 

But then I thought adding two complaints would be a bit too salty  Laugh

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Post by Fernando on Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:15 am

1) Thiago has started every Ligue 1 game bar 2 this season so that point is null & void as he keeps Rabiot out the team #Awkward.
2) If tactics are correct as Trebizzle complains about why can't Behrami do well?
3) They are all rather defensive midfielders except Cyprien so to expect creativity from them is not likely and not enough
4) Iwobi is sh*t
5) Expecting Ibra to go against 3 and win is not going to happen
6) Watford have a potent front 3 weather you've heard of them or not Laugh

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Post by Trebs on Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:21 am

Afro wrote:For me, tactics and starting XI carry equal weight in my decisions.

But what that means is someone with a better starting XI has to do less tactically.

Whilst having a better starting XI doesn't automatically give you a win, neither does doing the better tactics.

You can have the worse team but get everything tactically bang on, but if the other manager does enough tactically, they can still beat you

There's two issues though:
1. It's not like I'm the real life Sunderland team playing Barcelona. While I admit my XI was not quite as good as yours this week, it's not like it's a ridiculous deficit in quality.

2. Surely the tactics are more important than the overall quality of the XI? I accept both matter, but I'd rather see a lower quality well drilled team over a higher quality team with no idea what they're doing.

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Post by Trebs on Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:24 am

Fernando wrote:1) Thiago has started every Ligue 1 game bar 2 this season so that point is null & void as he keeps Rabiot out the team #Awkward.
2) If tactics are correct as Trebizzle complains about why can't Behrami do well?
3) They are all rather defensive midfielders except Cyprien so to expect creativity from them is not likely and not enough
4) Iwobi is sh*t
5) Expecting Ibra to go against 3 and win is not going to happen
6) Watford have a potent front 3 weather you've heard of them or not Laugh

Sorry Nando but that one is 100% incorrect.

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Post by GSC on Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:35 am

Trebs wrote:
Fernando wrote:My tactics are in The Lotion League Locker Room - Page 2 3559488474 Good Luck Hero it'll be interesting to see how my tactics goes down Laugh

I wouldn't worry about it too much. You can do every single thing right tactically and still not get the win because the other team is judged to have a better XI.

Is this not realistic?
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Post by Afro on Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:46 am

Trebs wrote:
Fernando wrote:1) Thiago has started every Ligue 1 game bar 2 this season so that point is null & void as he keeps Rabiot out the team #Awkward.
2) If tactics are correct as Trebizzle complains about why can't Behrami do well?
3) They are all rather defensive midfielders except Cyprien so to expect creativity from them is not likely and not enough
4) Iwobi is sh*t
5) Expecting Ibra to go against 3 and win is not going to happen
6) Watford have a potent front 3 weather you've heard of them or not Laugh

Sorry Nando but that one is 100% incorrect.

By my reckoning, it's 21 out of 26, 2 of which he was unavailable, so still doesn't suggest he is struggling to get into the team.

However, Rabiot has started 12 out of 19 he has been available, so he's not really being kept out of the side.
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Post by Afro on Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:52 am

Trebs wrote:
Afro wrote:For me, tactics and starting XI carry equal weight in my decisions.

But what that means is someone with a better starting XI has to do less tactically.

Whilst having a better starting XI doesn't automatically give you a win, neither does doing the better tactics.

You can have the worse team but get everything tactically bang on, but if the other manager does enough tactically, they can still beat you

There's two issues though:
1. It's not like I'm the real life Sunderland team playing Barcelona. While I admit my XI was not quite as good as yours this week, it's not like it's a ridiculous deficit in quality.

2. Surely the tactics are more important than the overall quality of the XI? I accept both matter, but I'd rather see a lower quality well drilled team over a higher quality team with no idea what they're doing.

On the flip side, your tactics weren't noticeably better than mine though. Yours might have been more specific, but mine didn't need to be this week. With your injuries, targeting your defence through pace and movement was as complicated as it needed to be. Intricately thought out tactics, doesn't mean better. Sometimes, keeping it simple and targeting the obvious is better (think Wimbledon)
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Post by Afro on Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:54 am

Afro wrote:
Trebs wrote:
Fernando wrote:1) Thiago has started every Ligue 1 game bar 2 this season so that point is null & void as he keeps Rabiot out the team #Awkward.
2) If tactics are correct as Trebizzle complains about why can't Behrami do well?
3) They are all rather defensive midfielders except Cyprien so to expect creativity from them is not likely and not enough
4) Iwobi is sh*t
5) Expecting Ibra to go against 3 and win is not going to happen
6) Watford have a potent front 3 weather you've heard of them or not Laugh

Sorry Nando but that one is 100% incorrect.

By my reckoning, it's 21 out of 26, 2 of which he was unavailable, so still doesn't suggest he is struggling to get into the team.

However, Rabiot has started 12 out of 19 he has been available, so he's not really being kept out of the side.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/thiago-motta/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/7602/saison/2016/wettbewerb/FR1/verein/583

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/adrien-rabiot/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/182913/saison/2016/wettbewerb/FR1/verein/583
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Post by BamBam on Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:59 am

Fernando wrote:1) Thiago has started every Ligue 1 game bar 2 this season so that point is null & void as he keeps Rabiot out the team #Awkward.
2) If tactics are correct as Trebizzle complains about why can't Behrami do well?
3) They are all rather defensive midfielders except Cyprien so to expect creativity from them is not likely and not enough
4) Iwobi is sh*t
5) Expecting Ibra to go against 3 and win is not going to happen
6) Watford have a potent front 3 weather you've heard of them or not Laugh

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Post by Holymiky on Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:20 am

So basically what Bam is saying is that he is better tactically and he has a better squad.

Laugh 

Just thought I'd weigh in with that, I'm busy so I'm out again, peace.

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Post by BamBam on Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:21 am

And I smell better

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Post by Hero on Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:28 am

Last call on Kante for TM face value (34m)...you've got 30 minutes or he's off otherwise and won't be able to be purchased until Season 2.

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Post by Holymiky on Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:54 am

I don't think anyone can afford him mate to be honest.

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Post by Fernando on Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:55 am

I don't get why he'd even sell since a week long injury

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Post by Hero on Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:01 am

Mainly due to having a few similar players and wanting a more creative force in there to partner Vidal. Also think he's a tad over-hyped (and this is despite me owning him in 2 leagues currently).

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Post by Trebs on Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:16 am

Afro wrote:
Trebs wrote:
Afro wrote:For me, tactics and starting XI carry equal weight in my decisions.

But what that means is someone with a better starting XI has to do less tactically.

Whilst having a better starting XI doesn't automatically give you a win, neither does doing the better tactics.

You can have the worse team but get everything tactically bang on, but if the other manager does enough tactically, they can still beat you

There's two issues though:
1. It's not like I'm the real life Sunderland team playing Barcelona. While I admit my XI was not quite as good as yours this week, it's not like it's a ridiculous deficit in quality.

2. Surely the tactics are more important than the overall quality of the XI? I accept both matter, but I'd rather see a lower quality well drilled team over a higher quality team with no idea what they're doing.

On the flip side, your tactics weren't noticeably better than mine though. Yours might have been more specific, but mine didn't need to be this week. With your injuries, targeting your defence through pace and movement was as complicated as it needed to be. Intricately thought out tactics, doesn't mean better. Sometimes, keeping it simple and targeting the obvious is better (think Wimbledon)

I'll die on the sword thinking my tactics are far superior then.

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Post by Fernando on Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:29 am

Your tactics were not well thought out Trebs wasn't even anything for your back 4 in your tactics. Not even mention Castro once. What you wrote could be broken to less then 100 words imho.

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Post by Trebs on Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:30 am

Fernando wrote:Your tactics were not well thought out Trebs wasn't even anything for your back 4 in your tactics. Not even mention Castro once. What you wrote could be broken to less then 100 words imho.

I could have written a lot more but unlike my opponent didn't go over the tactics limit.

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Post by BamBam on Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:31 am

And I still smell better than my opponent

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Post by Fernando on Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:33 am

59 Words Trebs

Wingers to stretch the defense and get in behind the full backs
Alli to drift in the final 3rd looking for the ball to create
Defoe to stay in the 18 yard box and look to poach chances
When their in possession Gueye & Alli to man mark Dembele & Coutinho to cut the supply out for the forward

Literally says nothing different to your tactics in a lot less words and gives you a hell of a lot more to play with The Lotion League Locker Room - Page 2 3559488474

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Post by Trebs on Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:44 am

Fernando wrote:59 Words Trebs

Wingers to stretch the defense and get in behind the full backs
Alli to drift in the final 3rd looking for the ball to create
Defoe to stay in the 18 yard box and look to poach chances
When their in possession Gueye & Alli to man mark Dembele & Coutinho to cut the supply out for the forward

Literally says nothing different to your tactics in a lot less words and gives you a hell of a lot more to play with The Lotion League Locker Room - Page 2 3559488474

Thank you, I see now that I could have won the game if I wrote that.

I'll drop the matter here because it's stressing me out way more than a manager game should.

I look forward to seeing some masterpieces in terms of tactics when I predict on this next gameweek.

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Post by Fernando on Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:46 am

Everyone's so jolly today aren't they Laugh

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Post by Hero on Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:49 am

I know, ruddy sync'd time of month or what on here?

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Post by BamBam on Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:53 am

Oh I'm voting this week too!

I'd advise everyone to play their random 4th choice centre back as the primary defender against the other teams best wide attacking threat, that usually leads to a win  angel

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Post by Hero on Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:58 am

Can I just say my feedback was trying to be nice last week and I was happy to discuss it!..... kiss

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Post by Fernando on Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:02 am

I wrote random crap because we put a deadline on it for a bonus cos y'all stupid The Lotion League Locker Room - Page 2 3559488474 (not really)

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Post by Holymiky on Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:04 am

I think the title win in our league before has changed Bam, I miss the old Bam! Laugh

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Post by Hero on Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:05 am

Yeah that was a nice Bam.

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Post by BamBam on Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:24 am

raspberry

I'm embracing my inner Azzy

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Post by Fernando on Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:25 am

Rugby Nonce tomato

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Post by Trebs on Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:34 am

This is the real, this is me
I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be now
Gonna let the light
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