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6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by LondonTiger on Thu 09 Mar 2017, 4:01 pm

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ENGLAND v SCOTLAND
Saturday 10th March
16:00 GMT
Twickenham Stadium

Live on ITV, RTE, FR2, DMAX

Referee - Matthieu Raynal
AR1 - Romain Poite
AR2 - Marius Mitrea
TMO - Ben Skeen

A. Head to Head

134 Played 134
74 Won 42
18 Drawn 18
42 Lost 74
1,562 Points 1,141

B. Recent Form

6 February 2016
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
9 – 15 to England

14 March 2015
Twickenham, London
25 – 13 to England

8 February 2014
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
0 – 20 to England

2 February 2013
Twickenham, London
38 – 18 to England

4 February 2012
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
6 – 13 to England

C. Teams


ENGLAND


Starting XV:

15. Mike Brown (vice captain, Harlequins, 58 caps), 14. Jack Nowell  (Exeter Chiefs, 21 caps), 13. Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby, 31 caps), 12. Owen Farrell (vice captain, Saracens, 50 caps), 11. Elliot Daly (Wasps, 11 caps), 10. George Ford (Bath Rugby, 33 caps), 9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 68 caps), 1. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 49 caps), 2. Dylan Hartley (captain, Northampton Saints, 82 caps), 3. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 72 caps), 4. Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 40 caps) , 5. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 56 caps), 6. Maro Itoje (Saracens, 10 caps), 7. James Haskell (Wasps, 73 caps) , 8. Nathan Hughes (Wasps, 6 caps).

Finishers

16. Jamie George (Saracens, 15 caps), 17. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 40 caps), 18. Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 6 caps), 19. Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 48 caps), 20. Billy Vunipola (vice captain, Saracens 32 caps), 21. Danny Care (Harlequins, 69 caps), 22. Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors, 6 caps), 23. Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, 24 caps).

SCOTLAND


Starting XV

15. Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 51 caps; 16 tries, 3 pens, 89 points
14. Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) – 34 caps; 15 tries, 75 points
13. Huw Jones (Stormers) – 6 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
12. Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors) – 22 caps; 6 tries, 30 points
11. Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 29 caps; 12 tries, 60 points
10. Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors) – 25 caps; 2 tries, 5 cons, 8 pens, 44 points
9. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors) – 3 caps

1. Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors) – 22 caps
2. Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 23 caps
3. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors) – 7 caps
4. Richie Gray (Toulouse) – 63 caps; 3 tries, 15 points
5. Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors) – 31 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
6. John Barclay CAPTAIN (Scarlets) – 58 caps; 4 tries, 20 points
7. Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 8 caps; 1 try, 5 points
8. Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 25 caps

Substitutes:
16. Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 105 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
17. Allan Dell (Edinburgh Rugby) – 6 caps
18. Simon Berghan (Edinburgh Rugby) – 1 cap
19. Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 27 caps; 1 try, 5 points
20. Cornell Du Preez (Edinburgh Rugby) – uncapped
21. Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps; 4 tries, 3 pens, 29 points
22. Duncan Weir (Edinburgh Rugby) – 25 caps; 2 tries, 7 cons, 10 pens, 1 drop, 57 points
23. Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps; 6 tries, 30 points

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 3:40 pm

Right lads, I'm not gonna be on here till after the game. Best of luck, and this thread has had some great banter, thumbsup
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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by lostinwales on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 3:40 pm

Hamilton sounds very scottish - (not)

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 3:45 pm

lostinwales wrote:Hamilton sounds very scottish - (not)

Another successful English export.

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Rugbyjk on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 3:48 pm

COME ON ENGLAND!!!!!!!!!

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by whocares on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 3:50 pm

lostinwales wrote:Hamilton sounds very scottish - (not)

George Hamilton?

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by nathan on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 3:51 pm

Jim

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Scottrf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 3:53 pm

Dayglo looked tiny.
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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by nathan on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 3:54 pm

Was thinking the same thing

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by TJ on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 3:56 pm

Nerves jangling here. Its the little glimmer of hope that gets you.

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by nathan on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:02 pm

That's naughty

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Rugbyjk on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:03 pm

Get him off!

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Heaf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:03 pm

min yellow

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Scottrf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:04 pm

Wouldn't have liked to see a red for that. Yellow okay.
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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Heaf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:04 pm

you can never tell these days - but yellow fair


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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Rugbyjk on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:04 pm

Get in

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Heaf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:05 pm

whohoo - great start

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by tigertattie on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:06 pm

Yellow? For that? Rugby really is going soft
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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by clivemcl on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:06 pm

Clear pulling back of the shirt by Mike Brown there for Englands try.

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by kingelderfield on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:07 pm

Hughes has been mummified!

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by trebellbobaggins on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:07 pm

luck for Scotland he didn't come down on his head. yellow was probably about right.


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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Heaf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:07 pm

tigert!ttie wrote:Yellow? For that? Rugby really is going soft

clear tip - no choice based on current guidelines

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Scottrf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:08 pm

tigert!ttie wrote:Yellow? For that? Rugby really is going soft
One of the clearest yellows you can get.
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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Rugbyjk on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:08 pm

We are looking good.

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by nathan on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:09 pm

tigert!ttie wrote:Yellow? For that? Rugby really is going soft

Can't work out if yOu are serious or not?

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by nathan on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:12 pm

Can't believe 10 minutes has gone already

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Heaf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:13 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:luck for Scotland he didn't come down on his head.  yellow was probably about right.

in those situations maybe they should make the offending player be subbed too after 10 mins ...

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Heaf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:13 pm

surely if the ball is ripped and goes forwards that's a knock-on or forward pass?

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by nathan on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:14 pm

Heaf wrote:surely if the ball is ripped and goes forwards that's a knock-on or forward pass?

Never has been for a ripped ball

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Heaf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:17 pm

I mean forwards from the ripper ....

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by TJ on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:18 pm

TJ wrote:Nerves jangling here.  Its the little glimmer of hope that gets you.  

That glimmer has been blown out!

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by nathan on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:18 pm

JJ looks in good form today. Motm so far

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:19 pm

This is a disaster, you can't give England a 13 point head start. Nightmare

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by nathan on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:19 pm

TJ wrote:
TJ wrote:Nerves jangling here.  Its the little glimmer of hope that gets you.  

That glimmer has been blown out!

Plenty of time left. We'll screw it up at some point.

Watson will gift Scotland a try or two

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by yappysnap on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:22 pm

Shame to see Daly leave the field for good

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by trebellbobaggins on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:22 pm

we saw against Ireland how Scotland will fight back. if they can get back ahead before England's subs come on then they will know they can do this.

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Heaf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:23 pm

head roll missed

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Heaf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:23 pm

yappysnap wrote:Shame to see Daly leave the field for good

yes bummer

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by trebellbobaggins on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:23 pm

yappysnap wrote:Shame to see Daly leave the field for good

it is a shame to see Scotland, in a sense, rewarded for that yellow card offence.

but there you go. they'll surely feel more confidence now?

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by yappysnap on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:24 pm

Faz's kicking seems back on form

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Heaf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:24 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:
yappysnap wrote:Shame to see Daly leave the field for good

it is a shame to see Scotland, in a sense, rewarded for that yellow card offence.

but there you go.  they'll surely feel more confidence now?

that's why I think my controversial idea should be looked at ...

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by nathan on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:24 pm

Heaf wrote:head roll missed

I spotted that, was on Hartley.

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by whocares on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:24 pm

We also saw against France how Scotland can be passive and how their scrum can be a liability.
Is Hogg already off?

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by nathan on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:25 pm

whocares wrote:We also saw against France how Scotland can be passive and how their scrum can be a liability.
Is Hogg already off?

Either blood or hia

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by yappysnap on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:26 pm

Ford taken off the ball there

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Heaf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:26 pm

HIA

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Rugbyjk on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:27 pm

What's the record win over Scotland?

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Taylorman on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:27 pm

tigert!ttie wrote:Yellow? For that? Rugby really is going soft

Absolutely agree with that. Tackle was copybook and there's no way you can expect the player to control the ball carriers momentum from there. Players are going to start getting confused when the way they get taught all their lives is going to be carded. No way he could have adjusted mid air on that tackle, meaning, as tiger says, he needed to apply a softer approach to do so. 'Tackle hard....but perhaps not that hard'...soft.

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Rugbyjk on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:28 pm

Can't be that soft looking at the way they're dropping like flies.

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by Heaf on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:28 pm

yappysnap wrote:Ford taken off the ball there

yep

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Re: 6N 2017: England vs Scotland (take 2)

Post by nathan on Sat 11 Mar 2017, 4:29 pm

Taylorman wrote:
tigert!ttie wrote:Yellow? For that? Rugby really is going soft

Absolutely agree with that. Tackle was copybook and there's no way you can expect the player to control the ball carriers momentum from there. Players are going to start getting confused when the way they get taught all their lives is going to be carded. No way he could have adjusted mid air on that tackle, meaning, as tiger says, he needed to apply a softer approach to do so. 'Tackle hard....but perhaps not that hard'...soft.

He went above the horizontal, how on earth is the fact that's a yellow a surprise to anyone?

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