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Post by kwinigolfer on Tue 21 Mar 2017, 8:31 pm

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1). . . . . . and tell Zach Johnson the news.
The King of Rock and Roll died last weekend, so here's some fun inspired by some of his best known songs.
Furyk departed the owgr Top 50 this week, slipping from 50th to 57th. Perhaps not that surprising following Furyk's injuries which kept him out of action for eight months, plus his customary extended Christmas Holidays.
But Zach Johnson, who started the year in 38th place has slid to 50th.
Are these two notable careers grinding to a halt, or is it just a case, to paraphrase Chuck Berry:
Of golfing's version of "rockin' pneumonia", "rollin' arthritis", catching up with them?
At least Zach is in the Majors and WGC's but Furyk's not in The Open or even the Bridgestone. Perhaps they'll be motivated this week.

2).No Particular Place to Go:
Ian Poulter's plight if he doesn't cash in on his final Medical Extension starts.
He had an excellent chance with the 54-hole lead, to win in Puerto Rico last year, so this is a yuuuge opportunity for him to cash in and secure his place on Tour for the rest of the season. If not . . . . . .
And I'm not as optimistic as some who think he'll cash in on a trove of sponsor invitations. He still has "Past Champion" status though, so all wouldn't be lost.

3).Johnny (Jordan?) B. Goode:
A lot is made of a generation of golfers who left school in 2011 and are now enjoying success on Tour, led by Jordan Spieth; Justin Thomas and Smylie Kaufman are part of this group and they seem to have claimed Emiliano Grillo as well; apparently he played a number of Junior tournaments with this lot when at school in Florida. Pathetic to hear Johnny Miller to say "no-one had even heard of him" two years ago. That's what ignoring the European Tour will do for you Johnny.
"Some day (Jordan) you'll be a man, and you will be the leader of a big old band."
No doubt some leading Europeans or other "Internationals" are also of the 2011 vintage? Different band though.

4).My Ding-A-Ling:
Possibly the absolute worst song ever recorded by a credible artist, but a chance to remember Jonathan Kaye. You do, don't you?
Around the turn of the century, Jonathan Kaye was one of the most promising young golfers on Tour, a couple of good wins (Westchester & Phoenix), and had a very good chance of winning Darren Clarke's NEC Invitational (Bridgestone) Championship.
But his fame turned to notoriety when, in the words of golfchannel.com:

"A tournament official wouldn't allow him access without his identification badge, so he returned with it clipped to the zip of his (trousers)."

A lengthy suspension ensued and he also fell foul of injuries. But he won $10M in the days before FedEx swag. He hasn't made a Tour start since 2011, last cashed a web.com cheque in 2014, but played a couple of webbie's earlier this year. Still only 46, he could still make up for lost time (and money) by cashing in on the Champions Tour but good health and a positive attitude will be the least he needs to get himself up to speed. Hope he makes it, the Tour needs its characters, and he'll have a partial two-year Champions Tour exemption.

5).Sweet Little Sixteen ("Deep in the heart of Texas"):
Presumably Chuck was talking about a high school hottie, so let's leave him there - of course, he could have been dreaming about this week's MatchPlay, so let's chuck Chuck, Berry him and move on.

6).Success in the "Match Play" seems to go in cycles, the only constant for a while anyway, being T.Woods. Among those others with at least two Finals under their belts are: Toms, Love, Mahan, Ogilvy, Casey, Day and McIlroy, but none has really dominated.
So, the best has been Woods, whilst the golfer in this week's field with the worst record is Wood, Chris Wood - time to double up betting on him, he can't lose eight in a row, surely? (And even if Woody comes up empty again, he'll still earn a fraction of a world ranking point for his "efforts".)

7).The Tour has "opposite field" action this week, starting Thursday, at the Puerto Rico Open. A big chance for Poulter as mentioned before; he'll be competing against some others in the owgr Top 100, Bryan, Zanotti, Olesen, McDowell, Kirk, Danny Lee and Andrew Johnston.
Puerto Rico could well be seen as an afterthought, and the list of Champions is not Hall Of Fame material. But runners up have included very Young Guns including Jason Day, Ryo, Spieth and Grillo. And Sam Saunders.
I'll be choosing Fabian Gomez as my one-and-done this week.

8).Last year's Puerto Rico Champ was Tony Finau, but he's sitting in a comfy chair beside the first tee in Austin waiting as "first alternate" at the "WGC-Dell Match Play for Jason Day to call in sick.

9).Of those outside the Top 50 and not yet qualified for The Masters, Ross Fisher is the best placed. Eight years removed from leading, at one time or another, in every 2009 Major, Fish needs to win his group (tho' could possibly qualify with a group runner-up result). Competition in his "Group 4" be warned: Oosthuizen, Matsuyama and Furyk, who probably won't "roll over" after all.  

10).Zach Johnson may still have some life left in him yet but, if he setting his sights set on a sporting career beyond golf, it had better not be snooker. As you can see from this effort:


http://www.golfdigest.com/story/watch-zach-johnson-bank-his-bunker-shot-off-opponents-ball

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Re: PGA Tour: Roll Over Jim Furyk . . . . : Notes from the Ballwasher

Post by kwinigolfer on Sun 26 Mar 2017, 9:18 pm

Rahm's been putting like me the past three holes. Gotta snap out of that.

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Post by Be_the_ball on Sun 26 Mar 2017, 9:23 pm

Plan B might be on the cards for Rahm, can someone lend him a slice of fruit cake? cake

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Post by Shotrock on Sun 26 Mar 2017, 9:40 pm

Time left for Rahm ... but he better not wait too long to get it in gear.

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Post by Shotrock on Sun 26 Mar 2017, 9:56 pm

DJ wins yet another hole. World #1 playing to his billing. Glad to see it!

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sun 26 Mar 2017, 10:52 pm

Interesting, if not thrilling.

NBC's reaction to Rahm is bewildering.

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Post by sirbenson on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 12:18 am

Yes DJ!!!! Fantastic stuff, keep it going!

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 12:39 am

DJ, Simply the best.

Does that make him favourite for The Masters?
Not in my book, but not sure who I'd bet on to beat him. Classic each way, find someone to beat the favourite, situation.

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Post by GPB on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 1:56 am

Kwini, Yes Top 10 in Puerto Rico gets into Houston.

They will be displacing a lot of Webbies.

DA Points
DeChambeau
Bill Lunde
Sam Saunders
Peter Uihlien
Tom Hoge
JT Poston
Rafael Campos
Andrew Johnston.

Webbie were only going 13 deep for Houston (on merit). Now it could be as little as 4 webbies if all these players take their tightful spot.

Rob Bolton has tweeted that Anderson, DeChambeau, Hoge, Johnston., Poston, Saunders are in Houston.

Not sure if that is final or tentative.

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Post by super_realist on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 7:56 am

kwinigolfer wrote:Interesting, if not thrilling.

NBC's reaction to Rahm is bewildering.

What did NBC say about Rahm? Perhaps they'd like him better if he was called Banjo or Boo they might have warmed to him more.

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Post by beninho on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 9:31 am

Will Uihlein play in Houston then? No Euro events being played it seems. Could this be his way on to the PGA tour, I would guess he has some contacts!

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Post by Snap Hook on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 11:35 am

Surprised to see DJ playing Houston, but might as well keep playing, as it all seems very easy right now. Only thing to stop him for a green jacket is if the old demons return between his ears, but don't see that either. Phil looks like he maybe be capable of giving him a game.

Says a lot about the Matchplay when Rose and Stinson, don't want to play it, before the Masters. Clearly got a move it, perhaps go LA, Honda, Players, Valspar, BayHill, Houston, Masters. High profile tournaments nicely spaced. Matchplay moves to May and not leading up to a major, would still keep it in Austin, as an enjoyable course.

Hope Beef does play Houston, brings it altogether, wins and qualifies for the Masters - I can hope.

In other news Poulter has Heritage & Valero to keep his full card, can't see Heritage as rich picking so will predict it will go to the wire. Poulter wouldn't have it any other way!

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Post by super_realist on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 11:48 am

Poulter has dropped off a cliff. I really can't see him keeping his card. It would do him good to have to graft on the European Tour, the PGA has by and large just been a gravy train for him. Virtually a journeyman.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 11:54 am

super_realist wrote:
kwinigolfer wrote:Interesting, if not thrilling.

NBC's reaction to Rahm is bewildering.

What did NBC say about Rahm? Perhaps they'd like him better if he was called Banjo or Boo they might have warmed to him more.

One minute he was the next big young thing, the next he was under the gun and making rookie mistakes. Weird how the TV people are always trying to uncover the next Tiger instead of better appreciating what they already have. Can't remember a more competitive Top Ten (incl Rahm who's about #14 now). No Woods perhaps, but the supporting cast are far more high quality consistently than in his day.

And, talking of Day, confirmation that, yes, he did receive 1.21 owgr pts, Molinari too. And Woodland received 2.26. Imagine all will miraculously return for Augusta.

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Post by super_realist on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 12:01 pm

Wouldn't put on money on Day though at anytime in the next 6 months though.

Rahm looking every bit capable enough to join the very top players. Not sure Spieth will be part of that very top level though, seems to have developed fragility in the last year, not surprising given last years Masters and his bank balance. He's currently in the "difficult third album" part of his career and this year could be pivotal to determine whether he's going to rid the wave or get back to being a true long term top 5 player.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 12:02 pm

Snap,
Agree about the dates - great event, lousy scheduling. But early March, following the Honda, would probably be considered too early for Sawgrass. Still think their old date was fine, a fortnight later.
There's also the rumoured wrinkle of the PGA having ambitions to move their Championship to May. Don't like that idea at all!

Poulter's in a pickle . . . . . .

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Post by Snap Hook on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 12:22 pm

Agree re Poulter, apart from being very good at a few Ryder Cups, and amen to that, no evidence to suggest he will get out of this hole! Too many better players than him currently and with tendency to throw in more shanks than your average pro! Furthermore as discussed previously showing off your Ferraris and getting people sacked, doesn't not generally create a persona for others to like.

PGA in May makes sense for them as I suspect they feel their identity is somewhat lost, coming so close after the Open.

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Post by wiretapper on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 12:47 pm

I too heard the PGA Championship to May rumor Kwini. All about bringing the playoffs forward to an earlier conclusions and avoiding the NFL which apparently is damaging viewing figures in the US.

Although I don't see how moving one tournament will solve this so it's possible another couple may have to move from their current Spring  placing into the old old Fall scheldule.

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to which will get booted? Valero? Valspar?

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Post by robopz on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 12:56 pm

Kwini... latest update on Houston sponsor situation is it's very unlikely there will be an announcement this week. Am told HGA has enough money to secure event on schedule for 2018. Overall I'm now getting indications Sponsor situation is becoming a "sore subject" around the HGA, specifically Steve Timms, HGA President of late... hmmm... not sure exactly what all that means, but doesn't sound real positive.  My new source is "inside", but not as high up as the past one, but I'd think she'd know.

GPB... Houston Field Updates

SE - Webbie Category - 2 NOT yet designated
SE - Members Not otherwise Exempt - Appleby, Cabrera
SE - Unrestricted - Allenby, de Jonge, Beau Hossler, Chris Stroud
SE - Designated (Master's eligible non-members) - Sullivan, Westwood, Wiesberger, Wood

Committed Top-10 from prior event - DeChambeau, Lunde, Saunders, Whee Kim, M Flores, M Thompson, M Anderson, T Hoge, JT Poston, Beef Johnston (Uihlein and Campos apparently not taking a top-10 exemption?)

Web re-order category is currently going 3 deep - Kraft, CT Pan, Schniederjans

Overall... there are 16 players (will be 18 after Webbie SE's are named) in the field who started season with Webbie Priority or some sort...

3 - Event Winners (Gribble, Hughes, Points... 4th Pampling not entered)
2 - Exempt from Reshuffle (Bryan, Murray)
2 - Webbie SE's TBA
3 - Reshuffle Category
1 - Major Medical Upgrade (Cantlay)
7 - T10 in prior event - (W Kim, M Thompson, M Flores, JT Poston, DeChambeau, Beef, M Anderson)


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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 1:37 pm

Thanks robo,

Was sorry that Chris Stroud didn't hang on to his lead yesterday; he seems a pretty good guy from the times we've followed him, a bit unlucky not to win Hartford a couple of years ago.

Halfway point of the season this week, and several of the remaining events won't automatically be open to most members except those with the highest priority status.
High time for players with poor seasons so far to reassess their schedules! Luuuke for instance, Kevin Chappell, etc.

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Post by pedro on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 2:34 pm

PGA in May? So all 4 majors in the span of 4 months? Not sure I like that idea.

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Post by GPB on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 2:41 pm

Looks like Uihlein and Campos are in the Houston field

https://twitter.com/futureoffantasy/status/846356065700732929

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 2:52 pm

GPB wrote:Looks like Uihlein and Campos are in the Houston field

https://twitter.com/futureoffantasy/status/846356065700732929

Yup, Now confirmed on pgatour.com

Looks like they could be dodging thunderstorms in Houston this week; increasingly looking like a damp Masters - hope that changes.

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Post by super_realist on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 2:53 pm

I'd quite like to see some really terrible weather at Augusta for a change. It would be interesting to see how different a winner we get from the normal serene conditions.

Anyoen having a bet on Willett missing the cut? Odds probably poor though

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Post by robopz on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 2:56 pm

GPB wrote:Looks like Uihlein and Campos are in the Houston field

https://twitter.com/futureoffantasy/status/846356065700732929
Yes... they just showed up in the last hour or so...

EDIT: PS J.J. Spaun and Cameron Smith got the two Webbie SE's. Still showing 2 deep into the webbie priority list... there were 3 prior to Campos and Uihlein taking spots... so there must have been a WD somewhere. Looks like the "name" players are still in... I've been half expecting a DJ WD...


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Post by robopz on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 2:59 pm

super_realist wrote:I'd quite like to see some really terrible weather at Augusta for a change. It would be interesting to see how different a winner we get from the normal serene conditions.

Anyoen having a bet on Willett missing the cut? Odds probably poor though

You might get your wish on Augusta weather... https://twitter.com/GD_MikeO/status/846351179261075457





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Post by GPB on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 2:59 pm

pedro wrote:PGA in May? So all 4 majors in the span of 4 months? Not sure I like that idea.

actually 4 months and 1 week. Is it really that much difference than 4 majors in 5 months?

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Post by beninho on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 3:04 pm

Thunderstorms will just make the whole thing a real slog. It will be stop start and delays, really don't fancy that. Wasnt it pouring down when Adam Scott won? And bloody cold when Zach won.

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Post by super_realist on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 3:07 pm

robopz wrote:
super_realist wrote:I'd quite like to see some really terrible weather at Augusta for a change. It would be interesting to see how different a winner we get from the normal serene conditions.

Anyoen having a bet on Willett missing the cut? Odds probably poor though

You might get your wish on Augusta weather... https://twitter.com/GD_MikeO/status/846351179261075457





Early days though, it's still a long way off and such forecasts are usually drivel.

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Post by GPB on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 3:12 pm

FTR, Worst case scenario for Poulter, he still has a conditional Card, which should get him into 3 or 4 more tournaments on merit if he fails to get his full card.

He should get into Barbasol, and Reno with no problem, and possibly John Deere, Memphis.

And he is enough of a "name" to secure some sponsor's invites to get into other events.

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Post by super_realist on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 3:15 pm

It's funny how a player like Poulter can be top 20 for about 10 years on the trot, (or there abouts), and then suddenly just hit the skids.
I know he had an "injury" but it doesn't account for his lack of form over the last two years.
Too comfortable?

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Post by robopz on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 3:20 pm

GPB wrote:FTR, Worst case scenario for Poulter, he still has a conditional Card, which should get him into 3 or 4 more tournaments on merit if he fails to get his full card.

He should get into Barbasol, and Reno with no problem, and possibly John Deere, Memphis.

And he is enough of a "name" to secure some sponsor's invites to get into other events.
Plus at 70-something he's nowhere close to top-50 career money exemption... so no safety net for Ian. You mentioned SE's, IMO he's probably got this year and next of getting enough SE's to play a nearly full schedule. But he's gotta get it in gear sooner rather than later... and as of now it looks like later.

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Post by beninho on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 3:38 pm

The thing with Poulter is he hasnt won anywhere in over 4 years. And I dont recall the last time he was in contention for a win.

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Post by Shotrock on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 3:45 pm

Ian = A fine, money-making, journeyman career with some highlights (most notably the exhibition tournament stuff) ... but nothing much more. I'd take it!


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Post by super_realist on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 3:51 pm

Shotrock wrote:Ian = A fine, money-making, journeyman career with some highlights (most notably the exhibition tournament stuff) ... but nothing much more. I'd take it!


I'd have no problem with that at all SR, if he didn't bluster about like he was a top top player and instead just behaved like he was a journeyman player.
He had his moments, I think he once got to #4, but for all his swagger, didn't look like he had the focus or perhaps couldn't apply himself to much other than the Ryder Cup.

I'd take his career and earnings in a heartbeat for sure though, no denying it

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Post by robopz on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 4:06 pm

Well whatever with Poulter... but for his sake I hope he's "well invested" if he wants to maintain these kind of digs and toys...  Ask Hunter Mahan how that works.

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Post by super_realist on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 4:22 pm

It's pretty gawdy stuff. I'd like to think if I had his money I might be a bit more imaginative than a fleet of clichéd cars and a vulgar, tasteless mansion.

Fair play to him though, he's done very well for himself, but he seems very much like a footballer with little education or culture behind him.

I do admire how forthright he is though, in a sea of bland players and tedious interviews it's good when people speak their mind without worrying about sanitising it.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 4:24 pm

Say what you like about Poulter and the "exhibition" nonsense, but he has 2 x WGC's (as does Hunner of course!) to his very great credit, 10 x ET wins, plus Japan & Aussie victories, plus some very creditable finishes in Majors, Players and other WGC's.

It always looked as if he maintained a somewhat "cavalier" PGA Tour schedule and now it's catching up on him. Plus, he never capitalised on excellent Tour seasons well enough to hit the FedEx Tour Championship jackpot.

Time to set yourself a realistic schedule Ian, and start grinding. Hunner too, and hope they both make it back, at least to Full Tour Membership for next year. Trust they've been assiduous in doing sponsor-friendly deeds; would imagine Mahan has, dunno about Poults.

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Post by robopz on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 4:31 pm

The thing with Poulter that get's me is how he appears to be just another example of a guy who got engaged in "other businesses" and took his eye off the ball as far as his playing career is concerned.  It's one thing for a Jack or Arnie to do that... but quite another when a less accomplished player does it.  

First time I saw it up close and personal with a less than VERY top world player was with Jeff Maggert.  Soon after he won that WGC back in 1999 he started up a company with his dad called "Team Golf". They got their hands into everything real quick... running a national "Oldsmobile Scramble" type event, luxury golf travel, special event management. And it took a helluva lot of time. By the time he realized how much it was impeding his career and he turned it all over to his dad... a good portion of his prime had passed. Not that Jeff would have  necessarily been a "world beater" anyway... but he could have done more IMO.

IMO GMac has done the same thing with his restaurant(s).  It's one thing to have someone slap your name on an eatery... but GMac was all in regarding the startup and ongoing day to day management.  I thought he had more good years of "prime time" ahead of him, and can't help to believe he didn't maximize it.  Plus add in how difficult it already is for all but the best of the best to dual tour.

Poulter with his apparel company, appears the same thing from this outsider looking in.

Even Jack has talked and written about how by the mid 70's he was being distracted by his business interests (mainly GC architecture) and he let it take time from his golf prep... He feels he didn't play as much as he should have for about 7-8 years there, wasn't near as prepared as he thinks he should have been, and he won a lot less than he should have because of it.  

Even Palmer in one of his biographies talked about how while it wasn't any specific business that took his time, it was the totality of his obligations as pitchman for EVERYTHING that had his schedule so busy and running non-stop, the only rest he'd ever get was if he missed a cut.  He didn't exactly say he missed them on purpose, but he once worded it in such a way it appeared he was implying by the early 70's there were times if he knew he didn't have it that week he didn't bust his tail to make the cut either.  He said the reason for his rather quick fall off was just burn out from running so hard so long... much of it off the course.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 4:41 pm

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Post by super_realist on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 4:50 pm

I really don't know why these players get involved in these businesses.

Someone like Poulter has made all of his money out of endorsements and prize money. He admits to putting money into IJP, but never taking any back. Why bother? Why not concentrate on golf? These guys are golfers, not businessmen, and no matter how many mars bars Poulter sold at Woburn, doesn't make him Warren Buffett.

Design courses when you're finished or your career is truly on the wane, but Mickelson and Stenson have shown what you can do in your 40's. No reason Poulter couldn't easily still be in top 50 if he didn't have so many distractions (presuming he really wants to be)

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Post by McLaren on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 5:15 pm

Moving the PGA to may would also get rid of the PGA/Olympic clash problem every 4 years.



Isn't the issue with Poulter that he seems like a bit of tool? If he wasn't such a wide boy we would probably talk about him as a very good English pro who should maybe have won a major on a very good day.
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Post by super_realist on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 5:31 pm

He's a bit like an England International Footballer Mac, uncultured, uneducated, flash and a show off, the difference is, he's achieved something in the game and is a bit better at speaking than they are.

I don't always like him, but appreciate his candour. Better than the stage managed, insipid interviews of the likes of Spieth, 9C, etc.

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Post by robopz on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 6:14 pm

McLaren wrote:Moving the PGA to may would also get rid of the PGA/Olympic clash problem every 4 years.
IMO the biggest positive of playing the PGA in May is the availability of so many southern tier courses that can be played without the often oppressive August heat. Virtually all the U.S. 100 or so miles south of the Great Lakes and most the way up the West Coast would likely be playable in May in relatively temperate weather.  

The move would change some of the character of the PGA Championship as it would take most the Great Lakes and a good deal of the NorthEast out of consideration. "Traditional" venues that probably wouldn't work that time of year are Whistling Straits and Oak Hill.  Would hate to lose Whistling Straits, but Oak Hill is probably past being a legitimate test anyway without tricking it up. But surprisingly Bethpage has very reasonable weather in May.  But to be able to play Oak Tree or Southern Hills in Oklahoma just as two examples, and WITHOUT the ridiculous August heat would be awesome. But to be able to even consider Diamante in Hot Springs (ARK) or RTJ at Ross Bridge (ALA), Whispering Pines in Trinity, TX or possibly even Streamsong or Medalist in FLA would be sweet.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 6:27 pm

robo,
What's wrong with Oak Hill? Fantastic venue in 2013, as usual. Great spectating also.

Agree some diversification would be good though.

The irony about the move everything away from the NFL mentality is that the NFL had extremely disappointing ratings last year. Not sure of the final numbers, but at one time was down about 19%. Perhaps too many viewers were watching PGA Tour golf, Ryder Cup, R2D etc?
If insurance has its way, it could be that the halcyon days of the NFL in behind them.

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Post by GPB on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 6:30 pm

Diamante in Hot Springs (Village)?  Where did you get that from?  Doubt if Hot Springs/Hot Springs Village has the infrastructure (Hotel Rooms) for a Major Championship.   Most of the commercial part of Little Rock is on North side, not convient to Hot Springs which is SW of Little Rock.

After playing a tournament in at Hot Springs CC for 10 straight years in late July, I can agree that it is too hot for an August Major Championship.

Golf Digest has an interesting article on the symbiotic turned contentious relationship between Augusta National and neighboring Augusta Country Club

http://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-masters-special-report-the-club-next-door-augusta-country-club


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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 6:44 pm

Has DJ w/d'd from the SHO?
EDIT: Yes he has!

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Post by raycastleunited on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 7:20 pm

super_realist wrote:I really don't know why these players get involved in these businesses.

Because a clothing brand is a more sustainable and less volatile long term income generator? But you have to establish the brand while you're "hot property", it's too late to wait til the end of your career.

Make hay while the sun shines!

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Post by Shotrock on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 7:22 pm

Kwin - I'm guessing DJ has played enough golf!

GPB - That was a very interesting read and I have newfound respect for the ACC boys.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 7:59 pm

Sr,
Mr.Levi has squeaked into the Champions Tour field this week. He won't be getting many starts, hope he makes the most of this one.


princedrac has the owgr earnings for the Houston winner slashed from 54 pts to 50 with DJ's withdrawal!

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Post by GPB on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 8:35 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:princedrac has the owgr earnings for the Houston winner slashed from 54 pts to 50 with DJ's withdrawal!

And Jon Curran's WD! censored

Yes, DJ's WD and the OWGR effect illustrates how Top Heavy the SoF formulas are.

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