Monday Night Raw - Discussion Thread - Will contain spoilers obviously

[Fernando]

Anyone else staying up for this tonight after an incredible Wrestlemania.

Potential things that could happen...
Finn Balor's return?
The Hardy Boyz will be DELETED?
Potential call ups from NXT...Shinsuke Nakamura, The Revival, Andrade "Cien" Almas?
Brock Lesnar starts his reign as WWE Universal Champion...
Im just a sexy kurt becoming GM?
Possible announcement of the next Draft?

Anyone else got some predictions for the night?

[Kay Fabe]

I'm gonna watch the first hour, save the other 2 for tomorrow unless it's too good.

[Fernando]

Well it's been 5 mins of Undertaker chants so far

[owen10ozzy]

Roman out first..niceee..talk about riling up the crowd!

[Fernando]

Roman is worse then Polio sign

[Fernando]

Well that wasn't PG Multiple chants (impressed at their creativity tbf)

All Roman said was "This is my yard now" and left.

[Fernando]

Match 1 - Teh Hardys beat Gallows & Anderson

Delete,Obsolete & F** that Owl chants

[temporary21]

Hook line and sinker
They've just made roman the biggest draw in wrestling. That's the most energy there's been in a crowd in years

His alignment is now irrelevant. He's become the most must see man in the business now

[Fernando]

Got beach balls going around the crowd during Neville vs Ali (which has been great)

#BeachBallMania

[temporary21]

Oh no the beach ball again

For gods sake they e not even trying to watch the wrestling

[Fernando]

Neville trolls the crowd by refusing to do the Red Arrow and taps Mustafa Ali out in a solid match.

[Fernando]

Vinnie Mac in the house

[temporary21]

No chance in hell!!

[Fernando]

This needs Meek Mahan and Roman sucks chants

[Fernando]

Superstar shake up next week (effectively a draft).

[Fernando]

Stephanie gone for a while. Fans mocking Vince about it

[Fernando]

Vince names a new GM a new person into the HOF.

Teddy Long comes out but Vince says no

Im just a sexy Kurt is GM of Raw

[Fernando]

New day out issuing an open challenge....The Revival are here

[Fernando]

Revival def New Day (Xavier/Big E) with the Shatter Machine

Just took out Kofi post match

[Fernando]

Bayley/Dana & Sasha vs Charlotte/Nia & Emma

[Fernando]

Sasha makes Charlotte tap out

Charlotte gets laid out by Nia after match.

[Fernando]

Bork promo time

[Fernando]

Heyman setting up Bork vs Reigns

Crowd: We Want Balor

I love Vince.

[Fernando]

Brauuuuuuuuuuuuuun confronting Bork

[Fernando]

Braun wants Roman 1st then off to destroy Bork

No Balor

[Fernando]

Jericho vs Owens at Payback

[Fernando]

The tip of Kevin Owens finger is on the list

[Fernando]

Owens & Joe put Jericho through a table backstage with the main event of Rollins/Jericho vs Joe/Owens upcoming.

[Fernando]

Jericho in no condition to compete.

I wonder who he's partner will be probably elias sampson

[Fernando]

Sheamus & Cesaro def Enzo & Cass to become no.1 contenders to the Hardys

[Fernando]

Zayn def Mahal - Jinder kicked out after the 3 count cos why not.

[Fernando]

Finn Balor is Seth's partner

[Fernando]

Balor & Seth def Owens & Joe with the Coup De Grace on KO

And teh show is over.

[GSC]

Rollins to Smackdown, AJ to Raw?

[NickisBHAFC]

Great postmania raw. Annoying we have to wait one year for a great episode

[Kay Fabe]

Is it too early to doubt Undertaker's retirement? while I accept he is so protective of his character that he may not want the whole Roc Flair treatment, I'd still have expected it to be the hottest topic on RAW, especially from Vince, he even used it to tease the fans before talking about Stephanie.

He looked a broken old man but you don't stick around that long unless you are passionate about what you do and while in his head it might have been over, I suspect that he might want to go out on a much better performance on a personal level.

I'd rather he didn't but the silence on that subject, given how monumental it would be to the WWE was deafening.

[Ché Guerrero]

I get the feeling we may not see him on tv again until he gets inducted into the HOF

[Beer]

I think it's protecting the character, Kay Fabe.

We all know that underneath the hat, gloves, coat and persona he's Mark Calloway, but the WWE and Vince will always assume we are dumb and don't know that. He will always want the Undertaker to come out on RAW and be 'that' person. That's why he came out to see Flair off separately, because the Deadman shouldn't be seen paying respects to anyone.

I agree with Che, I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see him again, but, that being said, last night wasn't the time or place to address that.

[Kay Fabe]

Last night would've been the perfect time to address it, if a top star of sport/entertainment suddenly retires then for the next 24 hours it's the hottest topic in that particular industry, a lot of things happened at WrestleMania but for me there's without a shadow of doubt The Undertaker 'retiring' was the biggest and main topic coming out of it.

[Kay Fabe]

Just watched that opening segment again, that was absolutely brilliant, Reigns was never going to talk over them with the hostility they had so he played it too perfection, he mouthed at one point "I've got you in the palm of my hands" and he 100% did, anytime the boos were beginning to fade he would fake a promo to build it up again, then his one sentence promo was all he needed.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

They've learned how to play these post-Mania crowds. The only slip was the Enzo/Cass vs Shesaro match where I don't think they quite understood that against Cesaro pretty much anyone was gonna get booed.


Most importantly, The Revival!

Or the draft. The draft was the most important, the Revival excited me the most.

[Ché Guerrero]

I hope from the mainstream audiences the Revival pull the heat they deserve

[Beer]

Last night would've been the perfect time to address it, if a top star of sport/entertainment suddenly retires then for the next 24 hours it's the hottest topic in that particular industry, a lot of things happened at WrestleMania but for me there's without a shadow of doubt The Undertaker 'retiring' was the biggest and main topic coming out of it.

But this is a crowd that is prone to hi-jacking the show. There's also the debuts, returns associated with it. If Taker comes out and says he's retired etc, and then the crowd go mad over a beach ball or a Balor return, it's hardly likely to be remembered for Taker leaving.

Also, from a booking perspective, it needed Reigns to do what he did to build on the win and this 'turn'.

If Taker is gone, it should be on his terms to come out and say goodbye. Let's not forget, Flair's retirement was forced upon him.

[Samo]

Taker never wanted a big deal to be made out of his retirement, so Im glad they touched on it the way they did.

Overall, a bloody good episode of RAW. Lots to look forward to, wish they would put the draft off for another couple of months though.

Angle as GM? Yes please more of this. Great replacement for Foley. And Vince is still excellent on the mic. Can work with a crowd better than most.

The Revival on RAW in the best place for them. They'll get great matches out of most of those teams, cant wait.

I knew Balor would be back but that didnt stop me marking out a little bit.

Reigns handled the situation perfectly. 5 word promo was all it took.

Braun vs Lesnar? Yes please all of that.

Main event tag team with 4 former NXT Champions? The future is indeed now.

I dont want to be negative but I doubt WWE can keep this standard up, but I hope Im wrong. Bloody good RAW.

[Kay Fabe]

Last night would've been the perfect time to address it, if a top star of sport/entertainment suddenly retires then for the next 24 hours it's the hottest topic in that particular industry, a lot of things happened at WrestleMania but for me there's without a shadow of doubt The Undertaker 'retiring' was the biggest and main topic coming out of it.

But this is a crowd that is prone to hi-jacking the show. There's also the debuts, returns associated with it. If Taker comes out and says he's retired etc, and then the crowd go mad over a beach ball or a Balor return, it's hardly likely to be remembered for Taker leaving.

Also, from a booking perspective, it needed Reigns to do what he did to build on the win and this 'turn'.

If Taker is gone, it should be on his terms to come out and say goodbye. Let's not forget, Flair's retirement was forced upon him.

I didn't expect The Undertaker to come out last night but if he did you can be sure he'd have got full command of the fans, particularly with the expectation he retired, nevertheless, I didn't and don't expect Undertaker to come out and call it a day, when he goes, and it may very well have been Sunday, that's exactly how I expect him to go but that also leads me into my thinking that even though he'd not come out and say it, I'd expect the WWE to make a huge deal about it in the immediate aftermath, particularly Vince.

I don't really buy all that protecting his character stuff anymore, all you need to do is look at Twitter to see the messages he got from current talent, even if you don't look at Twitter; Michael Cole is quick to tell us about said tweets on RAW anyway so I don't see the difference in Cole reading out tweets about Taker from HHH and Vince actually highlighting it on the mic.

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