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Post by LondonTiger on Thu 20 Apr 2017, 10:09 am

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When:
Saturday 22nd April - 15:15

Where:
Aviva stadium, Lansdowne Rd, Dublin 4, Ireland




TV:
BT Sport / beIN Sports / Sky Italia

Officials:
Referee - Romain Poite (France)
Touch Judge 1 - Pascal Gauzere (France)
Touch Judge 2 - Alexandre Ruiz (France)
TMO - Philippe Bonhoure (France)
Citing Commissioner - Jeff Mark (Wales)


Previous Meetings:
17/1/15 Saracens 33 - 10 Munster Rugby
24/10/14 Munster Rugby 14 - 3 Saracens
16/12/12 Saracens 19 - 13 Munster Rugby




MUNSTER



ERC Form: Played 7, Won 6, Lost 1
Pro12 Form: Played 20, Won 17, Lost 3

Lineup:

15 Simon Zebo
14 Andrew Conway
13 Jaco Taute
12 Rory Scannell
11 Keith Earls
10 Tyler Bleyendaal
9 Duncan Williams
1 Dave Kilcoyne
2 Niall Scannell
3 John Ryan
4 Donnacha Ryan
5 Billy Holland
6 Peter O'Mahony (capt)
7 Tommy O'Donnell
8 CJ Stander

16 Rhys Marshall
17 James Cronin
18 Stephen Archer
19 Dave O'Callaghan
20 Jean Deysel
21 Ian Keatley
22 Francis Saili
23 Darren Sweetnam


Saracens



ERC Form: Played 7, Won 6, Drawn 1
AP Form: Played 20, Won 15, Drawn 1, Lost 4

Lineup:

15 Alex Goode (226)
14 Chris Ashton (114)
13 Marcelo Bosch (93)
12 Brad Barritt (c) (193)
11 Sean Maitland (19)
10 Owen Farrell (148)
9 Richard Wigglesworth (182)

1 Mako Vunipola (116)
2 Jamie George (168)
3 Vincent Koch (11)
4 Maro Itoje (71)
5 George Kruis (132)
6 Michael Rhodes (53)
7 Jackson Wray (169)
8 Billy Vunipola (74)

16 Schalk Brits (198)
17 Titi Lamositele (42)
18 Petrus Du Plessis (154)
19 Jim Hamilton (71)
20 Schalk Burger (21)
21 Ben Spencer (97)
22 Alex Lozowski (27)
23 Chris Wyles (222)


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Re: Munster vs Saracens - European Rugby Champions Cup: Semi Final 1

Post by TightHEAD on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 3:52 pm

If only the Ref paid no attention to the crowd we would have a fair game
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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 3:53 pm

Excellent tap tackle by Farrell.

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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 3:54 pm

eirebilly wrote:
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TightHEAD wrote:Fed up with the play acting from Munster, it's like watching football.

Tight really is the wrong word in your username.

Pay no attention to him Rory thumbsup

Yes pay no attention to the nasty man!
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Post by eirebilly on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 3:55 pm

BOD really is a poor pundit, great player but not a pundit.
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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 3:55 pm

Farrell 5th highest scorer in European rugby, that's an awsome stat for someone so young.
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Post by Scottrf on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 3:56 pm

eirebilly wrote:BOD really is a poor pundit, great player but not a pundit.
I kinda like him. Not always right but seems to try to pick up the less obvious things.
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Re: Munster vs Saracens - European Rugby Champions Cup: Semi Final 1

Post by Rory_Gallagher on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 3:56 pm

Saracens coming away with points when they enter Munster territory - worrying for Munster who can't seem to break the Sarries defence.

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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 3:58 pm

More play acting and Munster win the penalty!

The Ref needs to get a grip
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Post by eirebilly on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 3:59 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Saracens coming away with points when they enter Munster territory - worrying for Munster who can't seem to break the Sarries defence.

Massive defence from Sarries and they will not tire...
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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 3:59 pm

Need to come away with points here.

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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:00 pm

Sarries need to wise up and fake an injury or foul play to match this Munster threat
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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:01 pm

Great skills from a Prop.
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Post by eirebilly on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:02 pm

Munster with pretty much all the stat's in their favour but the true telling fact is, Sarries are an incredibly strong team in defence and far more clinical when given their chances. Very hard game here for both teams but Sarries worth their lead.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:03 pm

Worrying lack of penetration from Munster with ball in hand. Feels a lot like watching Ireland.

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Post by Scottrf on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:04 pm

What a team. Who else can have that territory vs Munster and concede 3 in a half.
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Post by eirebilly on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:04 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Worrying lack of penetration from Munster with ball in hand. Feels a lot like watching Ireland.

In fairness, not many teams can breach this Sarries defence. Really cannot see Munster winning this.
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Post by nathan on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:11 pm

Fascinating insight from doc

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Post by Fuzzy Dunlop on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:11 pm

Watching Saracens defend really is every bit as enjoyable as watching NZ in all out attack.

I think Poite is having a good game. Difficult conditions and the only mistake for me was the penalty against Farrell - Earls changed his line to go beyond the ball to cut Farrell off. It feels wrong for someone to be binned for a high tackle on someone who has slipped below waist height but that's how the IRB have instructed refs to act.

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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:13 pm

Scottrf wrote:What a team. Who else can have that territory vs Munster and concede 3 in a half.

Any team that Wayne Barnes wants to win.
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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:15 pm

Where are all the Sarries fans?
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Re: Munster vs Saracens - European Rugby Champions Cup: Semi Final 1

Post by Pot Hale on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:16 pm

I think Munster have somewhat emptied the tank and cone away with just 3 points and trailing.

Saracens should be too strong for them in the second half. If Saracens score first, then Munster heads will drop and the game will go away from them.
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Post by eirebilly on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:17 pm

Pot Hale wrote:I think Munster have somewhat emptied the tank and cone away with just 3 points and trailing.  

Saracens should be too strong for them in the second half.  If Saracens score first, then Munster heads will drop and the game will go away from them.

G'way Pot ╭∩╮

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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:19 pm

Maitland is the weak link in the team, give an English winger a chance
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Post by nathan on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:25 pm

Did poite just say that it was a knock on first by sarries by he was juggling the ball?

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Post by Pot Hale on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:26 pm

Have to say Duncan Williams has really come on this season. Hope that doesn't put the hex on him.
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Post by eirebilly on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:27 pm

nathan wrote:Did poite just say that it was a knock on first by sarries by he was juggling the ball?

Yep and he also stood there and watched Itoje lifting legs in the maul...
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Post by nathan on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:28 pm

eirebilly wrote:
nathan wrote:Did poite just say that it was a knock on first by sarries by he was juggling the ball?

Yep and he also stood there and watched Itoje lifting legs in the maul...

Well he got 2 things wrong there then....

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Post by Pot Hale on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:28 pm

eirebilly wrote:
Pot Hale wrote:I think Munster have somewhat emptied the tank and cone away with just 3 points and trailing.  

Saracens should be too strong for them in the second half.  If Saracens score first, then Munster heads will drop and the game will go away from them.

G'way Pot ╭∩╮

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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:28 pm

Sarries are not allowed to juggle and Then control the ball yet Munster are allowed to choke players around the neck and then roll them!
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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:28 pm

These little kicks just aren't good enough. Munster need to stop giving away possession.

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:29 pm

Munster just cant seem to get over the gainline in play. This is just savage defence from Sarries. I hate it as a Munster fan but cant help but admire it as well.
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Post by Scottrf on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:29 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:These little kicks just aren't good enough. Munster need to stop giving away possession.
Yeah that kick went 1 metre forward and probably resulted in a 40% chance of possession. Never get that. Keep the ball.
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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:30 pm

Ashton was thinking of swan diving then
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Post by eirebilly on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:31 pm

Jaysus, surely one of these chances will work for Sarries...
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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:32 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:These little kicks just aren't good enough. Munster need to stop giving away possession.
Yeah that kick went 1 metre forward and probably resulted in a 40% chance of possession. Never get that. Keep the ball.

They don't look confident with the ball though.

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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:32 pm

Oh dear, Sarries are looking beatable today
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Post by nathan on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:32 pm

Game of errors today

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:32 pm

All is lost, POM off...
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Post by Pot Hale on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:33 pm

Tank emptying further as Saracens turn on the heat through the bulldozers.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:33 pm

Deysel just saved the day.

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Post by nathan on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:33 pm

eirebilly wrote:All is lost, POM off...

It's only a hia so he could be back

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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:33 pm

POM looked like he was out there.

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Post by TightHEAD on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:34 pm

Sarries should be out of sight
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Post by eirebilly on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:34 pm

nathan wrote:
eirebilly wrote:All is lost, POM off...

It's only a hia so he could be back

He was out, wont come back I feel.
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Post by eirebilly on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:34 pm

It was coming...
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Post by Pot Hale on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:35 pm

And Poite delivers.
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Post by nathan on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:35 pm

eirebilly wrote:
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eirebilly wrote:All is lost, POM off...

It's only a hia so he could be back

He was out, wont come back I feel.

Ah, that's a shame. He'said class

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Post by nathan on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:36 pm

Pot Hale wrote:And Poite delivers.  

What did he do wrong for that?

Munster 2 was lucky not to be sent to the bin

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Post by Pot Hale on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:36 pm

Hard luck Munster. The Saracens bulldozers are going all the way. Phenomenal strength and endurance.
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Post by Pot Hale on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:37 pm

nathan wrote:
Pot Hale wrote:And Poite delivers.  

What did he do wrong for that?

Munster 2 was lucky not to be sent to the bin

He didn't do anything wrong. He put his hand up correctly for the try.
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