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New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by George Carlin on Thu 04 May 2017, 7:08 am

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New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions
3 June 2017
KO: 19:35 NZST (8.35am BST)
Toll Stadium, Whangarei, North Island

Live on Sky Sports, Sky Sports HD and SkyGo

Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
Touch judges: [tbc]
TMO: [tbc]

A. FORM:

These teams have not played each other before.

B. TEAMS:

New Zealand Barbarians 
1. Aidan Ross (Bay of Plenty)
2. Sam Anderson-Heather - captain (Otago)
3. Oliver Jager (Canterbury)
4. Josh Goodhue (Northland)
5. Keepa Mewett (Bay of Plenty)
6. James Tucker (Waikato)
7. Lachlan Boshier (Taranaki)
8. Mitchell Dunshea (Canterbury)

9. Jack Stratton (Canterbury)
10. Bryn Gatland (North Harbour)
11. Sevu Reece (Waikato)
12. Dwayne Sweeney (Waikato)
13. Inga Finau (Canterbury)
14. Sam Vaka (Counties Manukau)
15. Luteru Laulala (Counties Manukau)

16. Andrew Makalio (Tasman)
17. Tolu Fahamokioa (Wellington)
18. Marcel Renata (Auckland)
19. Matt Matich (Northland)
20. Peter Rowe - vice captain (Wanganui)
21. Richard Judd (Bay of Plenty)
22. Jonah Lowe (Hawke's Bay)
23. Junior Ngaluafe (Southland)

British & Irish Lions
15. S Hogg (Scotland)
14. A Watson
13. J Joseph
12. B Te'o (all Eng)
11. T Seymour (Sco)
10. J Sexton (Ire)
09. G Laidlaw (Sco)

01. J Marler (Eng)
02. R Best (Ire)
03. K Sinckler (Eng)
04. A Jones (Wal)
05. I Henderson (Ire)
06. R Moriarty
07. S Warburton
08. T Faletau (all Wal)

16. J George
17. M Vunipola (both Eng)
18. T Furlong (Ire)
19. G Kruis (Eng)
20. J Tipuric
21. R Webb (both Wal)
22. O Farrell (Eng)
23. J Payne (Ire)


C. PREVIEW



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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by kingelderfield on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:32 am

Hopefully we'll tune in after the break.

Not enough nastiness especially from the pack.

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by LordDowlais on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:32 am

mikey_dragon wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:I'm amazed the ref hasn't gone to the tmo once given how many times we got over the line.

Poor half!

I'm not watching... I did warn folk about NZ refs last season though.

Is it this bad? Hopefully we come to life in this half.

ref is not from New Zealand. OK

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by compelling and rich on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:32 am

LordDowlais wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:kruis tips and farrell are the obvious choices to come on

Is Webb on the bench ?

yeah

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by eirebilly on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:32 am

Webb, Farrall, Kruis, Tipuric and Daley should all come on immediately in the second half I feel.
Laidlaw, Sexton, Henderson, AWJ and Hogg have not performed.
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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by Griff on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:34 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:I'd actually forgotten how good Faletau is, he'd been so poor the past year but looks back to his best now.

Really? He's had a few big spells out injured this season. Not played much I thought. Good performances on his return only to get injured again.

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:34 am

Not a great start, but it's important not to panic. We knew this game could be a bit of an ambush, our guys are only 3 days off the plane.

Sexton, Hogg, AWJ and Best are all class acts, give them a chance in the second half to show what they can do.
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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by BigGee on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:36 am

nathan wrote:it's a typical first lions performance. ref has been fine really

Exactly, hard to read anything into it. They are rusty, the ball is greasy and it's only half time. They were starting to put the squeeze on towards the end of the half. It will be a very different score at FT.

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:37 am

They will all get better. There must be a lot of pressure on these guys to put a marker down.


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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:37 am

nathan wrote:it's a typical first lions performance. ref has been fine really

Well that's good news I guess.

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by LordDowlais on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:37 am

eirebilly wrote:Webb, Farrall, Kruis, Tipuric and Daley should all come on immediately in the second half I feel.
Laidlaw, Sexton, Henderson, AWJ and Hogg have not performed.

I would stick with the forwards for now, they haven't been bad, they have not dominated as they should either mind you.

Hogg cost us a try, and gifted their try by not competing for the high ball under pressure, again. Sexton has been a shadow of what he is capable of being, Laidlaw does not play heads up rugby, our centers are just running into people, we need some inspiration from somewhere in the backs.

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by Scottrf on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:38 am

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Not a great start, but it's important not to panic. We knew this game could be a bit of an ambush, our guys are only 3 days off the plane.

Sexton, Hogg, AWJ and Best are all class acts, give them a chance in the second half to show what they can do.

Yeah I agree. Wouldnt be hooking people early, its not that desparate and dont want to disrupt morale too early.

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by compelling and rich on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:38 am

dont really buy into the gelling excuse when playing a ba ba's side

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by LordDowlais on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:39 am

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Not a great start, but it's important not to panic. We knew this game could be a bit of an ambush, our guys are only 3 days off the plane.

Sexton, Hogg, AWJ and Best are all class acts, give them a chance in the second half to show what they can do.

yes, I agree, lets see how it goes then. OK

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by eirebilly on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:40 am



Sexton is clearly not fit, haul him off...
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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:43 am

Much better opening - clever kick Laidlaw

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by LordDowlais on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:44 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Much better opening - clever kick Laidlaw


But why the kick ?

We had the momentum then, we have just handed possesion back to them now. picard

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:46 am

LordDowlais wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Much better opening - clever kick Laidlaw


But why the kick ?

We had the momentum then, we have just handed possesion back to them now. picard

So early in the half there's no need to force things - I suppose the idea was to put them under pressure on their line. Problem is we gave them an easy out!

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:47 am

That bench is class all over.

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by eirebilly on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:48 am

Farrall on now for Sexton. Good call.
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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:50 am

A bit of over excitement from Sinckler there!

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by kingelderfield on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:50 am

Improvements to be made from a low base.
We do need to get some momentum.

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by compelling and rich on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:50 am

itoje and kruis look a shoe in for the tests at the minute. henderson for lauchbury isnt looking like a good choice

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by BigTrevsbigmac on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:52 am

Farrell changes things straight away

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by eirebilly on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:52 am

So much more balance with Farrall at 10. Great stuff and now the try.
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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:53 am

Subs have made a difference!

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by Scottrf on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:54 am

Well that's the 10 jersey then

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:56 am

Time to kick on now

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by eirebilly on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:56 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Subs have made a difference!

Farrall has made the difference at 10. So much more balance and composure in attack now. Gatland must have enough proof now.
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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by kingelderfield on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:58 am

Sexton must be injured?

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by No 7&1/2 on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 9:59 am

And Webb now..huge step up from laidlaw.

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by Rugbyjk on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:00 am

Who did Kruis replace?

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by eirebilly on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:00 am

kingelderfield wrote:Sexton must be injured?

He has to be carrying the same niggle he got during the Pro-12 semi final. If he is then it was stupid to start him in the first place. That said, he was also not in great form the last 2 months.
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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:00 am

Is Barnes getting on anyone else's pecks or just mine?
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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by eirebilly on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:00 am

Rugbyjk wrote:Who did Kruis replace?

Henderson
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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by BigTrevsbigmac on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:01 am

Not impressive that line out drive turnover. That really is basics.

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by Rugbyjk on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:01 am

Barnes is a peck

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by Rugbyjk on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:01 am

Thanks eirebilly.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:07 am

compelling and rich wrote:itoje and kruis look a shoe in for the tests at the minute. henderson for lauchbury isnt looking like a good choice

I think that would have been most people's choice. Kruis and Itoje are one of the best 2nd rows' I've seen - they do everything extremely well.

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Post by compelling and rich on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:10 am

warbs off, cant remember him doing anything

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:10 am

Got to go for the win first and foremost so I understand going for the points.

This has been a dire performance so far against what is largely a 3rd string team...
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Post by The Great Aukster on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:10 am

Gats will have to get Halfpenny in the side for his place kicking?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:10 am

Quinnell putting Barnes in his place there.

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:11 am

I like that from Moriarty, bit of aggression at last thumbsup
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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by compelling and rich on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:11 am

mikey_dragon wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:itoje and kruis look a shoe in for the tests at the minute. henderson for lauchbury isnt looking like a good choice

I think that would have been most people's choice. Kruis and Itoje are one of the best 2nd rows' I've seen - they do everything extremely well.

agreed, but still think gats would like awj in there

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Post by lostinwales on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:12 am

The Great Aukster wrote:Gats will have to get Halfpenny in the side for his place kicking?

Only if he doesn't trust Farrell to take them...

ahh.

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Post by The Great Aukster on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:13 am

AWJ is a shadow of his former self

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:13 am

Been disappointed in the scrum - 2 international front rows should be dominating.

To be fair a NH ref probably would have given some more penalties instead of letting it go.

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by kingelderfield on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:13 am

All very rusty. Ref sets the standard.


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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by compelling and rich on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:14 am

play like this against the crusaders and we'll get mullered

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Re: New Zealand Barbarians v British & Irish Lions, 3 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 10:16 am

If we're not careful here we could lose this

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