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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:44 pm

First topic message reminder :

Liverpool have given Lovren a new 100k a week long term deal

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Post by Fernando Wed May 17, 2017 7:29 am

They are playing Middlesbrough at home.

If anything is a banker it's that cos Boro as always will go down with a wimper.

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Post by Guest Wed May 17, 2017 11:50 pm

Walter Mazzarri will leave Watford at the end of the season

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Post by Crimey Wed May 17, 2017 11:53 pm

Just John wrote:Walter Mazzarri will leave Watford at the end of the season

Watford could do with a little bit of stability, must be frustrating for the players having to impress a new manager so often.

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Post by Guest Wed May 17, 2017 11:57 pm

Marco Silva or Ranieri to replace? Horrible squad to take on, just a mish mash of average players

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Post by Crimey Thu May 18, 2017 12:13 am

Not that it's at all conclusive, but The Guardian article has put Firmino as Liverpool's best player this season.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/who-scored-blog/2017/may/17/premier-league-clubs-player-season-eden-hazard

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Post by GSC Thu May 18, 2017 12:29 am

Do Liverpool even have a standout player.
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Post by lfc91 Thu May 18, 2017 12:56 am

Not really, the Attacking quartet of Coutinho Mane Firmino & Lallana have, at different points of the season, all be lauded as vital, most important player etc etc.

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Post by GSC Thu May 18, 2017 1:12 am

Yeah there's not a Suarez in that group for sure, but not sure there's even a Sturridge type from that same season.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu May 18, 2017 3:35 am

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Just John wrote:Walter Mazzarri will leave Watford at the end of the season

Watford could do with a little bit of stability, must be frustrating for the players having to impress a new manager so often.

Tbf it doesn't seem to have hurt them so far - on the way to being pretty well established as a PL outfit at this point
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Post by Crimey Thu May 18, 2017 7:01 pm

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Just John wrote:Walter Mazzarri will leave Watford at the end of the season

Watford could do with a little bit of stability, must be frustrating for the players having to impress a new manager so often.

Tbf it doesn't seem to have hurt them so far - on the way to being pretty well established as a PL outfit at this point

They've been up for two years but both managers have ended the year really badly. All it takes is one poor managerial appointment and that could be them done for.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu May 18, 2017 7:31 pm

It does get somewhat over-egged in this country, Watford have been a relative success ever since these owners have come in and this is what they've done the whole time

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Post by GSC Thu May 18, 2017 8:17 pm

José Mourinho in rant about having to play football game.
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Post by daraghj82 Thu May 18, 2017 8:38 pm

Crimey wrote:
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Just John wrote:Walter Mazzarri will leave Watford at the end of the season

Watford could do with a little bit of stability, must be frustrating for the players having to impress a new manager so often.

Tbf it doesn't seem to have hurt them so far - on the way to being pretty well established as a PL outfit at this point

They've been up for two years but both managers have ended the year really badly. All it takes is one poor managerial appointment and that could be them done for.

agree with you on this , also the saints have changed managers a lot and they have coped well with this, marco silva's name is being mentioned a lot as his replacement

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Post by GSC Thu May 18, 2017 8:47 pm

Players are more important it seems.

Watford have access to a vast network through the portfolio of clubs their owners also own.

Southampton keep developing and recruiting well.
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Post by Guest Thu May 18, 2017 8:47 pm

It seems to me that the owners are the most important determinants of a clubs success or failure - even if it just means good delegation.  For example Arsenal's steady success seems to be associated with delegation to Wenger and others.  The problem is that they haven't been able to adjust to the next level, when other clubs learnt from Wenger's "new methods" and kicked on including a willingness to spend and spend (although spending alone doesn't necessarily bring success - it can ruin a club if they overspend etc - I think Portsmouth were an example of this).

With regard to Watford - the owners seem to know what they are doing - and the two seasons they have spent in the Premiership - they never even looked like they were in relegation trouble - unlike teams like Leicester and Crystal Palace - who were sinking like stones at one point.

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Post by Ent Fri May 19, 2017 12:59 am

FA have approved retrospective punishment for simulation.

Not entirely sure about the implementation they are proposing.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri May 19, 2017 12:59 am

How ridiculous - they have nothing good to do so just play the PR game.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri May 19, 2017 1:01 am

I'm all for it personally, such blatant cheating shouldn't be rewarded.

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Post by Ent Fri May 19, 2017 1:03 am

The implementation proposed is actually very poor and promotes more inequality within the game in terms of decision making by the officials.

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Post by GSC Fri May 19, 2017 1:44 am

What a nonsense ruling that is.

Look at actually implementing real time replays for assistants if you want something to do.
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Post by owen10ozzy Fri May 19, 2017 2:57 am

Agreed....headline sounds great...delve deeper and as said its publicity stunt with little substance. The punishment only occurs when a player actually wins a penalty or gets a player sent off. By this point that single moment of cheating has had the impact and a retrospective ban does little.

If anything this will just create a need for players to actually improve their ability to dive. It almost becomes even more of a skill than it already is. Players should be getting banned whether they have successfully duped the official or not. Do it properly or dont do it at all!

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri May 19, 2017 3:22 am

It's still daft. You're getting over-excited about one type of offence. It seems to me like it's one of the least evident examples of players trying to cheat to get an advantage.

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Post by Guest Fri May 19, 2017 5:06 am

There are clear cut dives and then there are grey area dives / falling over / fouls / evasive actions against potential leg-breaking challenges.  I think there are enough clear cut dives to ignore the grey area ones for now.  I agree with those that say it should be done in game - like in rugby.  There is more money in football than in rugby so they should be able to afford the appropriate infrastructure for such a system.

As others have inferred above poor refereeing decisions are probably the biggest issue in football at the moment.  But no-one at the FA wants to lay blame at the referees.

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Post by westisbest Fri May 19, 2017 7:16 am

On the subject of diving, just watching the Luton v Blackpool game,
Hylton just blatantly dove to win a pen to give Luton a 3-1 lead(5-4) on agg.

Not good to see, glad something is being done about it.

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Post by GSC Fri May 19, 2017 7:18 am

Like what? Blackpool still got the penalty, if they hold this lead they'd consider it well worth it.
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Post by GSC Fri May 19, 2017 7:18 am

Luton even
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Post by westisbest Fri May 19, 2017 7:22 am

It's a 2 game suspension isn't it?

In fairness it was a quality taken pen.
Reminded me of Yorkie taking them back in his claret and blue days.

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Post by GSC Fri May 19, 2017 7:26 am

Rather he missed 1 game in L1 than none in L2...
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Post by Guest Fri May 19, 2017 9:40 am

Sam Allardyce makes the point - what about penalties that weren't given that should have been given. What about players that were booked for diving who didn't dive. He wants game time technology to be introduced not retrospective diving panels.

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Post by Guest Fri May 19, 2017 7:59 pm

Kane - 75 PL goals (23 years old)

How near Shearer (260) will he get? At this rate, by 26, Kane could have notched 150

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Post by Jermaine2015 Fri May 19, 2017 8:12 pm

Kane can do well at a club realistically never expected to win anything. Soon as he gets to big club he'll get exposed. The new Robbie Fowler

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Fri May 19, 2017 8:14 pm

Why would he need to move to a 'big' club when Tottenham look to cementing there place as a Champions League team, not sure playing with better players would expose him either. Despite my initial assertion that he was a one season wonder, he simply knows how to score a bucketload.

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Post by Crimey Fri May 19, 2017 8:19 pm

And Robbie Fowler is a weird analogy considering he never joined a bigger club than Liverpool. It was injuries more than anything else that curbed Fowler.

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Post by Ent Fri May 19, 2017 8:24 pm

Have to see how the season at Wembley goes.

Also might leave the PL at some point in his career - very early to be talking about records.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat May 20, 2017 2:50 am

We have just signed some random German. Guess I can post this in here now Very Happy

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Post by Ent Sun May 21, 2017 12:45 am

Video ref used to send off a player in u 20 world cup. Took 4.5 minutes to restart play despite it being a relatively quick/easy decision.

Can of worms this.

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Post by Atila Sun May 21, 2017 12:04 pm

I'm a Man Utd man, but I have to be honest and say that I don't want Arsenal to beat Liverpool to that 4th spot. Since Utd have fallen from power, I'm more concerned with improving our results rather than hating on Liverpool. It would be more amusing to me to see Arsenal miss out.


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun May 21, 2017 7:48 pm

There's as much chance of Norwich signing Lionel Messi this summer as this is of Middlesborough getting anything at Liverpool today
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon May 22, 2017 12:05 am

We've gone into the last game of the season with 6 players on the bench.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon May 22, 2017 1:49 am

All over as soon as Atkinson bottled the blatant pen and red card for Lovren bundling over Bamford
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon May 22, 2017 2:56 am

We've ended up 11th with the same points as West Brom

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Post by GSC Mon May 22, 2017 3:04 am

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon May 22, 2017 3:15 am

Just a bit funny really, we looked a good relegation candidate and they were having their best season, but this year has been weird. One point off 8th.

Those two wins in the last 3 have moved us up about 5/6 places and earned £10m, as well as a less embarrassing position when looking at transfers in the summer

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Post by Guest Mon May 22, 2017 4:36 am

WBA had the worst end to the season gaining two points out of a possible 27 from their last nine games.

de Silva at Hull has sullied his copybook in the last three games of the season, losing them all, two at home and one away, conceding 13 goals and scoring one.

All top seven teams beat their last seasons points tally
Chelsea: from 50 to 93: +43
Tottenham: from 70 to 86: +16
Man City: from 66 to 78: +12
Liverpool: from 60 to 76: +16
Arsenal: from 71 to 75: +4
Man Utd: from 66 to 69: +3
Everton:: from 47 to 61: +14

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Post by Guest Mon May 22, 2017 4:41 am

Harry Kane wins the golden boot with 29

13 of those goals came in 4 games (WBA/Stoke/Leicester/Hull)
16 of those goals came in 26 games

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Post by GSC Mon May 22, 2017 4:51 am

Even the bottom half is a respectable rate though.

After years of mediocrity at the top, this felt like a step in the right direction for the PL. Would expect the Manchester clubs to close that gap next season
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Post by GSC Mon May 22, 2017 4:55 am

On West Brom, think I read something earlier this year where statistically they weren't much different to the season before, bar converting a much higher % of their chances. Seems that wasn't sustainable.

Anyway you know what you're getting with Pulisball and West Brom seem content to just be aboard the PL gravy train. Which seems a slightly depressing reality to me, but I guess preferable to mental owners and instability.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon May 22, 2017 5:10 am

WBA literally hit 40 pts and went to the beach
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon May 22, 2017 8:31 am

These mid game send offs are always so embarrassing especially when an over-rated scumbag is the focal point.

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Post by GSC Mon May 22, 2017 8:38 am

Was a bit reckless that from Koscielny but a straight red seemed slightly harsh
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