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Post by kwinigolfer on Wed 10 May 2017, 2:23 pm

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Technical problems here at Ballwasher Controls so will post what I can and may return later:

1).Only saw the final hour of last weekend's Wells Fargo play from Eagle Point, but an exciting finish and the course looked terrific - the golfers seemed to enjoy it and they may get to return in 2021 when the Presidents Cup is staged at Quail Hollow. Super win for Brian Harman, almost a local lad, (as he also will be this week) and not much rust on DJ's game.

2).Disappointed to see the Team Europe challenge fizzle, but promising work from Molinari and Noren, while McDowell seems to be running into form. Rahm is relentless, this just in, but possibly not this week.
Another good experience too for Seamus Power - hopefully he can capitalise on his good play by stitching together four good rounds instead of two or three, perhaps at the Byron Nelson as he'll be sitting it out this week.

3).I like The Players Championship and I've grown to enjoy the course, especially the Par-5's. We'll see some changes this week, with Par-4's #6 and #7 being modified and the Par-4 12th shortened to be driveable - that's the intention anyway but reports from practice rounds suggests that player strategy will be dictated largely by the pin positions (and wind obviously). It always seemed to be a sleeper of a hole, fall asleep and bogey awaits, but the Tour clearly wanted a driveable Par-4 and now it has one, though it all looks a bit contrived to me.

4).TPC Sawgrass is a Pete Dye creation of course, the third in five weeks, and demands at least as much precision as pure power which makes wins by Woods and Jason Day all the more impressive. I still like course specialists here and McDowell (100/1 ish) & Molinari (50/1) are two who are worth looking at. And Sergio excels, with two runners up finishes as well as his 2008 win.

5).The Tour announced yesterday that the FedEx Cup sponsorship contract would be renewed for another ten years; and also announced that there are no immediate plans to revert The Players to March. Even if the key word there is "immediate", I still like this May date, though the Tour's March schedule continues to be questionable.

6).Bizarre caddie/player goings on with Willett and Tweeter Murray both changing their partnerships, in seemingly abrupt fashion. Danny Willett certainly needs something to turbo-charge his season which has been a bit of a waste so far - he's going to find it increasingly difficult to stop a rankings free-fall.

7).A couple of Major Championship qualifying dates to take note of:
US Open: owgr Top 60 as at May 22nd qualify. There's a second bite at that cherry on June 12th.
Open Championship: owgr Top 50 on May 29th.

8).The weather looks reasonably good for the week, there's extensive TV coverage, the fridge is full of brewskis, what's not to like about this week?


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Post by kwinigolfer on Fri 12 May 2017, 8:41 pm

Shotrock wrote:And how about Vijay in the mix? Impressive and hope he can keep it up.

So long as he tweets to Tiger.

Disquieting news that Rory has scheduled an MRI on his back for Monday . . . . . . . .

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Post by owen10ozzy on Fri 12 May 2017, 9:52 pm

Cant remember when or who but I distinctly remember Rory firing back at a reporter who questioned his need for so much gym work and how it has affected him injury wise and how he may run in to problems later on...

At the time Rory shot him down quite aggresively....it seems that he may have been better off heeding the advice. Based off the past two years his body seems to be packing up in very similar vein to Tigers...although much earlier.

Nice to see Vijay rolling back the years...I have him in 3 of my draftking lineups so heres hoping it continues.

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Post by GPB on Fri 12 May 2017, 10:02 pm

Surprised Mickelson didn't find a sprinkler head in that bush on hole #10.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Fri 12 May 2017, 10:16 pm

Every chance now that the cut will go to +2, which will mean a yuuuuuge field for Round 3 and almost certainly a bunch of MDF'ers on Saturday evening.

owen,
You're right about Vijay rolling back the years. And another wiping away the cobwebs is IJPoulter, top Englishman so far, tied w/McDool for to GB & NI.

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Post by Be_the_ball on Fri 12 May 2017, 11:42 pm

GPB wrote:Surprised Mickelson didn't find a sprinkler head in that bush on hole #10.

Aah yes, I'd say Tigers found a few sprinkler heads in bushes over the years... Shocked

Interesting comments from Brandel Chamblee during the week around the "modern" golf swing and its impact on the body campared to the classic swing of the likes of Slammin Sammy & Phil.

If you haven't read it, he made the point that the modern swing with the ridged lower body against the big shoulder turn is whats causing so many lower back issues, where as the classic swing had way more moving parts and was kinder on the body, enabling the likes of Phil to play at the top level into his late 40's. While Tiger, and perhaps Rory now and possibly Jason Day have issues.


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Post by Be_the_ball on Fri 12 May 2017, 11:43 pm

Aah Kwini, I hope you're not going all Captain Mainwaring on us, this whole Brexit thing is doing funny things to people.


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Re: PGA Tour: The Fifth Major, #Alternative Facts: Notes from the Ballwasher

Post by raycastleunited on Fri 12 May 2017, 11:45 pm

super_realist wrote:Doesn't it seem amazing that a company like Taylor Made which is leaking money like Mac in front of a Doak book can pay McIlroy £100m when they are losing that much every year.

What makes you think TM is losing £100m a year?

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sat 13 May 2017, 12:39 am

[quote="Be_the_ball"]Aah Kwini, I hope you're not going all Captain Mainwaring on us, this whole Brexit thing is doing funny things to people.[/quot

Not sure I'm on the same page there, but hope I'm not on the same page as Arthur Lowe - although my Dad did his fair share of fire-watching . . . . . . #savethedockyard

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Post by Diggers on Sat 13 May 2017, 10:01 am

On the flip side of too much gym work causing back issues...I haven't been inside a gym for 15 years and I can literally put my back out by sneezing! Sad

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sat 13 May 2017, 12:34 pm

82 golfers due to be in action today, and thunderstorms in the forecast. There'll be a further cut, top 70 and ties after 54 holes, the dreaded MDF.

Happy to see Noren, Rafa and Poulter the leading Euros at T5, all got something to prove and hopefully they'll move forward again today.

Storms: Please stay away.

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Post by puligny on Sat 13 May 2017, 12:49 pm

I seem to recall Rory had some back problems as a slightly podgy teenager. Maybe he just has a long term back issue, or maybe it's a short term niggle? Certainly doesn't sound too bad if he is continuing to play and delaying scan until Monday.

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Post by super_realist on Sat 13 May 2017, 12:54 pm

raycastleunited wrote:
super_realist wrote:Doesn't it seem amazing that a company like Taylor Made which is leaking money like Mac in front of a Doak book can pay McIlroy £100m when they are losing that much every year.

What makes you think TM is losing £100m a year?

It's been widely reporting that they were costing Adidas a fortune, making big losses every year.

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Post by Be_the_ball on Sat 13 May 2017, 2:00 pm

Billy Horschel, what a plank.

https://twitter.com/Skratch/status/863136572492832768

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sat 13 May 2017, 2:13 pm

Every tournament director's worst nightmare: 82 golfers, storms in the forecast, Ben Crane opening the batting. What could possibly go wrong.

Brian Harman & Pat Perez were 1st and 2nd last week and are in the third group out - both comparative racehorses in terms of pace pf play. Imagine they'll be waiting on every shot.


B_t_b,
I think that is somewhat out of context, Horschel was having a laugh and a joke w/Veej on the previous hole after Vijay holed a snake from way off the green, Billy Ho bowing to Veej.
The three of them all live in the TPC area, imagine they all know each other pretty well, and Horschel just exasperated with the irony of the whole thing. That's my escape route for him anyway, he's great to follow usually.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sat 13 May 2017, 3:19 pm

There's something you don't see every day - and I'm not talking about a two-touch penalty:

The first three groups out all on the same hole, and it's a Par-4.
Ben Crane doing what Ben Crane does with impunity - holding up traffic, the sort of pr1ck you'd find in the fast lane of a 3-lane motorway driving with both hands on the wheel under the speed limit with half the M1 queued up behind him.

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Post by GPB on Sat 13 May 2017, 3:40 pm

Tim Rosaforte at Golf Channel did a excellent profile on Freddie Jac and his young son's fight against a heart defect.

http://www.golfchannel.com/video/freddie-jacobsons-son-max-stronger-ever-after-heart-surgery/




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Post by Be_the_ball on Sat 13 May 2017, 4:48 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:
B_t_b,
I think that is somewhat out of context, Horschel was having a laugh and a joke w/Veej on the previous hole after Vijay holed a snake from way off the green, Billy Ho bowing to Veej.
The three of them all live in the TPC area, imagine they all know each other pretty well, and Horschel just exasperated with the irony of the whole thing. That's my escape route for him anyway, he's great to follow usually.

Glad to hear that! I wasn't aware of the context, so thought he was just being a brat after a wrong club selection or something.

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Post by super_realist on Sat 13 May 2017, 4:58 pm

Be_the_ball wrote:Billy Horschel, what a plank.

https://twitter.com/Skratch/status/863136572492832768

What a complete and utter tosspot. I hope his caddy just left the club there. What a peni5 shelf.


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Post by GPB on Sat 13 May 2017, 5:01 pm

super_realist wrote:
Be_the_ball wrote:Billy Horschel, what a plank.

https://twitter.com/Skratch/status/863136572492832768

What a complete and utter tosspot. I hope his caddy just left the club there. What a peni5 shelf.


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Post by kwinigolfer on Sat 13 May 2017, 5:05 pm

Very cool GPB,
Always liked Freddie, fun to follow, always likely to do something just a little bit different. thumbsup


B_t_b,
Horschel used to be a real jerk, and I don't doubt his walk-off wasn't fully appreciated by Veej & Furyk, but seriously doubt they thought it was disrespectful.

Not happy to see Westwood struggling - would think he needs to start earning owgr points pronto. He might squeeze into the US Open, but he'll plummet in the rankings unless he finds some form. Pat Perez on fire!

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sat 13 May 2017, 9:01 pm

Jon Rahm +7 after 7 holes. Kinda shocking. Is he starting to run out of gas? Young man, and hasn't played much since Augusta, but under media scrutiny every time he plays.

Franny!

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sun 14 May 2017, 12:39 am

Lots of huffing and puffing but no-one raising the bar from Holmes and Stanley at -9.

Westwood makes the cut by the skin of his teeth and should be playing with Mickelson first thing on Sunday. And Rory should be out with Jason Day.

And I still think #17 is the worst hole on Tour.

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Post by Shotrock on Sun 14 May 2017, 2:00 am

Kwin - I highly doubt (rather know) you could give a rats a-- if any "merican" was under the media scrutiny of Joh Rahm, but your compassion is endearing. Wink Too funny.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sun 14 May 2017, 9:55 am

Nothing "funny"; just trying to figure out why Rahm looks like he hit a wall with the worst round of the day. And his worst Tour round ever by 6 strokes.
What's "merican" got to do with it?




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Post by raycastleunited on Sun 14 May 2017, 11:20 am

super_realist wrote:
raycastleunited wrote:
super_realist wrote:Doesn't it seem amazing that a company like Taylor Made which is leaking money like Mac in front of a Doak book can pay McIlroy £100m when they are losing that much every year.

What makes you think TM is losing £100m a year?

It's been widely reporting that they were costing Adidas a fortune, making big losses every year.

TM is profitable. Just doesn't fit Adidas strategy: hardware requires a lot of R&D and no synergies or ability to scale the products. R&D effort developing boost technology in shoes can be applied across all sports, moveable weights in drivers no. Nike realised this too.

TM was actually doing really well until they shot themselves in the foot. Despite the silly name, RBZ was the company's most successful product ever. They then released RBZ Stage 2 for no reason because it was basically the same product in a slightly different colour, which annoyed retailers who were left with loads of obsolete stock, and golfers who paid £300 for a club which was "out of date" and on sale at half price a few months later. To make up for this they rushed out the jets speed and SLDR which were not great and just made things worse. But last year M1 and M2 proved incredibly popular, I see so many pros use them regardless of their endorsements.

I think private equity could be good for a niche business like a golf club manufacturer. They'll obviously take a lot of cost out but I imagine we will see longer product cycles and less discounting. The problem is the golf market has no long term growth prospects.

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Post by Diggers on Sun 14 May 2017, 1:06 pm

Bizarrely find myself quite wanting Poulter to win, though if I was to have to actually guess what he'll do I'd say shoot about a 74 to slip back.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sun 14 May 2017, 2:18 pm

Re Poults: Quite agree Digs, now he's put himself in position a win would be a fine return to form (validation?) after three years or more in the doldrums.
He said he played "boring" golf yesterday, but the only one without a bogey he was certainly doing something right, not short-siding himself for one.

Should be dry and 80's today, breezy perhaps later on. Westwood off to a scratchy start.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sun 14 May 2017, 8:28 pm

Imagine Poulter's a scoreboard watcher, but would probably be best if he didn't take a peek after the leaders' starts.

Lousy start from Sergio but nothing we haven't seen before this week . . . . . . . not top Spaniard at the moment though.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sun 14 May 2017, 9:57 pm

Come on Poults. Keep. This. Up.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Sun 14 May 2017, 10:58 pm

Nice to see Rafa CB channeling his inner Peter Green Fleetwood Mac: Albatross!!

Whatever Poulter does over his final three holes he's done himself proud - and, barring catastrophe(s), has booked himself a return trip next year.

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Post by sirbenson on Sun 14 May 2017, 11:04 pm

Short game exhibition from Si Woo....Holmes and Stanley should surely be close to a slow play penalty?

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 15 May 2017, 12:50 am

sirb,
The places JB visited, it's surprising they ever finished . . . . .

Very impressed with Poulter's weekend, hopefully this gives him a new lease on Tour life. Hoping he plays at Hartford which is a course tailor made for him.

Grayson Murray just found out that the Asians and Europeans are not that bad after all. Tosspot that he must be.

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Post by GPB on Mon 15 May 2017, 1:35 am

kwinigolfer wrote:
Grayson Murray just found out that the Asians and Europeans are not that bad after all. Tosspot that he must be.

Kwini, have you ever been water-skiing? I suspect not, because you would still be pulled by the boat, even if you fell.

Seriously, you need to let things go!

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 15 May 2017, 1:47 am

Let things go?

Which is just what Kip Henley did . . . . . . . as Vijay's caddie: "Please don't ask for details", he said! Didn't he used to caddie for Kevin Na? Talk about out of the frying pan . . . . . . .

And: IJP finished T2, second runner up in The Players, and still some snarking on golfchannel.com about his round.
Nevertheless, somewhere a Ferrari dealer knows where his next payment is coming from. Well done Poults, another year on Tour, whatever the rest of 'em say.


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Post by GPB on Mon 15 May 2017, 2:53 am

IJP was part of the story this week.

I don't know of anyone that was talking about Grayson Murray. Other than you of course.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Mon 15 May 2017, 9:23 am

McLaren wrote:
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Nice ace on 17 for Garcia Whistle....

It's a tricky green, with his putting stroke it would be advisable to hole the approach shot.
Laugh True that...
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Post by navyblueshorts on Mon 15 May 2017, 9:34 am

Be_the_ball wrote:
GPB wrote:Surprised Mickelson didn't find a sprinkler head in that bush on hole #10.

Aah yes, I'd say Tigers found a few sprinkler heads in bushes over the years... Shocked

Interesting comments from Brandel Chamblee during the week around the "modern" golf swing and its impact on the body campared to the classic swing of the likes of Slammin Sammy & Phil.

If you haven't read it, he made the point that the modern swing with the ridged lower body against the big shoulder turn is whats causing so many lower back issues, where as the classic swing had way more moving parts and was kinder on the body, enabling the likes of Phil to play at the top level into his late 40's. While Tiger, and perhaps Rory now and possibly Jason Day have issues.
God, Chamblee talks bollox doesn't he? Ballesteros? Howard Clarke? Couples? Etc.... The 'reverse-C' finish of so many past players?
He's a complete muppet. All he's doing is picking golfers and then saying that as they didn't have back injuries, it must be down to the way they swung the club. There are plenty of modern players who don't have back issues, but somehow this doesn't seem to impinge on the pea that masquerades as Chamblee's brain.
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Post by beninho on Mon 15 May 2017, 10:37 am

Wouldn't it be good for a commentator or analyst to just say something like, everyone is different some will get back problems some wont. that's just life.

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Post by beninho on Mon 15 May 2017, 10:39 am

So, i try to not make random judgements on golfers based on how they come across or look. But i'm finding it hard to see any reason to like JB Holmes. He just seems annoying in so many ways. He may be the nicest guy in the world though and always give to charity.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 15 May 2017, 11:50 am

ben,
I made the mistake of following JB Holmes (playing w/Brandon Grace who was fine) for 15 holes last year . . . . and what a miserable experience that was.

It'll be interesting to see what Rory's MRI results show today; he's in the field for Wentworth so hopefully a week's rest and he'll be good to go.

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Post by Shotrock on Mon 15 May 2017, 12:17 pm

I think Chamblee is still in book hawking mode. "Anatomy of Greatness" is his latest contribution to finding the elusive golf swing.

I think some people are simply built for the long haul: Langer, Singh, Irwin.

Nice win by Kim and a fine result for Poulter. If I heard the announcers correctly (maybe not) Kind Louie has never won on the PGA tour in these United States. That's surprising.

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Post by wiretapper on Mon 15 May 2017, 12:20 pm

Apart from Rafa's finish (And JB's for all the wrong reasons) the back nine proved a bit flat yesterday, no doubt the way Kim hoped it would when he made the turn.

Fair play to Poulter and Stanley, they hung around much longer than I thought they would.

However mainly massive congrats to Kim, a cool head when all around were loosing theirs. Now with a five year exemption the end of this season would be a good time to do his military service if he still has to.

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Post by pedro on Mon 15 May 2017, 12:29 pm

Impressive by Kim.
But I also think R4 was a bit boring. Probably due to the players in the mix. Only kept watching to see if Poulter could pull it off or make a fool of himself. He did neither. Rafa made it a bit fun at the end though.

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Re: PGA Tour: The Fifth Major, #Alternative Facts: Notes from the Ballwasher

Post by raycastleunited on Mon 15 May 2017, 1:18 pm

Agree with Wire and Pedro.

Not taking anything away from Kim, who played calm and solid golf, but I was hoping for a bit more action on the back 9. Nobody really put him under pressure.

I thought Louis was best placed, especially as he was playing with Kim, and when he eagled 11 I was looking forward to a tight finish, but he just frittered away his chances.

Still, wonderful driving and chipping from Kim


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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 15 May 2017, 2:26 pm

That happens sometimes with golf doesn't it?
Poulter said after Saturday's round that he was just intent on not making mistakes, going for the middle of the greens, hoping to make a putt or three. Didn't see any interviews w/Kim but he basically did the same. Would they have been able to change up their strategy if anyone challenged them? We'll never know!
The risk-takers were making mistakes. All resulted in a bit of a plodding 18 holes. Too bad.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Mon 15 May 2017, 2:32 pm

Not sure the course and conditions allowed many with any modicum of sense to go pin seeking did it? Don't get me started on the stupid 17th hole....
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Post by GPB on Mon 15 May 2017, 2:39 pm

The South Korea Gov't might be THE DECISION MAKER on whether the Players IS a Major or IS NOT a Major.

South Korea exempts any Korean Male from conscription if they win a Olympic Medal or Major (think Sang Moon Bae).

If South Korea exempts SW Kim from his Military obligation......THEN there is some credibility from a "HIGHER POWER" that the Players is a Major

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 15 May 2017, 2:54 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:Not sure the course and conditions allowed many with any modicum of sense to go pin seeking did it? Don't get me started on the stupid 17th hole....

Would say that the 17th hole is a major reason why The Players can never be considered a Major. (Didn't actually think the hoopla about the "drivable Par-4" 12th was justified either.)
But: Did enjoy watching Ikeda getting his tee shot to spin back off the sleepers behind the 17th hole yesterday. That was incredible skill!!!! Rolling Eyes

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Post by beninho on Mon 15 May 2017, 3:35 pm

I heard someone say that teh course is basically set up for whoever is the best at scrambling. And that it takes away the bombers because its not a long course and its a bit strategic. Suppose thats shown by the different list of winners from such as Freddy F and Lil Timmy C. Its purely down to who is on their game on the days.

I have no issue with the 17th, i really dont understand the hatred. Would rather see that then a lot of the par 3s you see in golf.

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Post by Shotrock on Mon 15 May 2017, 3:46 pm

I also don't understand the hatred of the 17th. It's a very large green, played from a short distance, but if you miss it's a two shot penalty (unless, of course, you go JB Holmes on things). Forget the pin, fire for the middle of the green. It's certainly NOT the hardest hole to par on the PGA tour.

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