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Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by George Carlin on Mon 29 May 2017, 2:15 pm

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ITALY v SCOTLAND
10 June 2017
KO: 20:00 SGT (UTC+08)
National Stadium, Kallang, Singapore

Referee: Paul Williams (New Zealand)
Touch judges: TBC
TMO: TBC

Live on BBC1

A. Head to Head

27 Played 27
8 Won 19
0 Drawn 0
19 Lost 8
455 Points 653

B. Recent Form

18 March 2017
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
29 – 0 to Scotland

27 February 2016
Stadio Olimpico, Rome
20 – 36 to Scotland

29 August 2015
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
48 – 7 to Scotland

22 August 2015
Stadio Olimpico di Torino, Turin
12 – 16 to Scotland

28 February 2015
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
19 – 22 to Italy

22 February 2014
Stadio Olimpico, Rome
20 – 21 to Scotland

C. Teams

ITALY 

E Padovani, A Esposito, M Campagnaro, T Boni, L Sarto, T Allan, E Gori (capt); A Lovotti, L Bigi, S Ferrari, M Fuser, D Budd, F Minto, M Mbanda, R Barbieri.

Replacements: O Gega, F Zani, P Ceccarelli, A Van Schalkwyk, A Steyn, M Violi, C Canna, T Benvenuti.

SCOTLAND

D Taylor, D Hoyland, M Scott, A Dunbar, T Visser, F Russell, A Price; A Dell, R Ford, WP Nel, T Swinson, B Toolis, J Barclay (capt), R Wilson, J Strauss.

Replacements: F Brown, G Reid, Z Fagerson, R Harley, M Bradbury, H Pyrgos, P Horne.


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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by George Carlin on Wed 07 Jun 2017, 7:33 pm

tigertattie wrote:To me it's a no brainer

Ford called up and Farrell picked at 12

The other option would be to have Farrell at 10.

Finn is just too flaky to be a Lions class stand off.
Fatman gave an interview saying that he thinks Biggar will be fine and they aren't calling up anyone else at the moment.

I said before the tour started that I would go with with Farrell at 10, Henshaw at 12 and JJ at 13 and I see no reason to change that opinion.

Sexton has looked terrible, Henshaw has improved and we desperately need a creative thinker at 13. Huw Jones would have added a lot to this tour, I would think. Crying shame he got broken just before that. The Lions also need Hogg to step up like never before.
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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 8:46 am

Scotland V Italy under 20s this morning at 10am - hopefully the live stream on World Rugby actually works this time.

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by highland_scot on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 8:49 am

It took me about 4 attempts reading through the thread to realise that we are in fact not suggesting that Ross Ford goes to play 10 with the Lions...

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 8:50 am

highland_scot wrote:It took me about 4 attempts reading through the thread to realise that we are in fact not suggesting that Ross Ford goes to play 10 with the Lions...

He'd be a great Warrenball pick!

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by jimbopip on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 9:36 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:
highland_scot wrote:It took me about 4 attempts reading through the thread to realise that we are in fact not suggesting that Ross Ford goes to play 10 with the Lions...

He'd be a great Warrenball pick!

Actually Mr Chinhook would be to small and play too fast and loose for Warrenball.

Just about to make some brekkies and settle down to watch the under 20's, oh the joys of part time semi-retirement.

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 9:39 am

So you're only semi-retired part time then? Part semi retired...?

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by jimbopip on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 9:50 am

Ah yes, I ventured into the kitchen and spotted the rest of Young Pipetto's birthday cake from yesterday: so I'm now giggling at the thought of eating birthday cake and watching rugby at ten o'clock in the morning on A WORKING DAY. Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 9:56 am

Dammit, the geographical restrictions are still in place even though Sky aren't even showing it

http://www.worldrugby.org/video/254569

Hopefully it is on Facebook Live again.

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:00 am

Facebook Live link here (You have to be on Facebook though)

https://www.facebook.com/worldrugby/

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:04 am

Robbie Nairn just dropped the ball over the line with no one near him - massive mistake!

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:07 am

He makes up for it though with a fantastic finish!

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:11 am

Italy strke back after poor midfield defence - 7-5 Italy.

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by George Carlin on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:17 am

jimbopip wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
highland_scot wrote:It took me about 4 attempts reading through the thread to realise that we are in fact not suggesting that Ross Ford goes to play 10 with the Lions...

He'd be a great Warrenball pick!

Actually Mr Chinhook would be to small and play too fast and loose for Warrenball.

Just about to make some brekkies and settle down to watch the under 20's, oh the joys of part time semi-retirement.
Part time semi-retirement? So, a Quarter Retirement?
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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:17 am

12-5 Scotland after yet another try coming from a rolling maul.

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:23 am

Strange decision to kick for goal there given A) our kicker is guff and B) we've done so well from driving lineouts

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:27 am

Let off for Scotland as Kinghorn does great defencive working holding the ball up over the line.

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:35 am

Helpfully the live stream has ended...

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by BigGee on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:37 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Helpfully the live stream has ended...


You are lucky it even started, mine did not!

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:38 am

On Facebook live?

Looks like we need Jimbo to provide updates, assuming he's not in a sugar induced coma now!

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by BigGee on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:42 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:On Facebook live?

Looks like we need Jimbo to provide updates, assuming he's not in a sugar induced coma now!

I have never been on facebook and don't want to be either, but I reluctantly set up an account to try and watch this and it still won't work, just diverts me back to the WR site.

Even more annoyingly, I am now getting lots of emails asking me if these people can be my friends!

As it does not work anyway, I will just de-activate it now!

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:44 am

They've tweeted saying there are problems with their live streams. The Wales game has gone down too.

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by jimbopip on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:44 am

Apparently if you download HOLA and choose Canada as your location it is on live. Not that I would suggest anything so nefarious. Whistle

12-7 in the 33rd minute when the stream seemed to go into a sugar induced coma, or a Jimbo.

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by jimbopip on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:46 am

12-10 now.
So I get a site which shows it and the stream packs up....is it saying "You can't have your cake and eat it"?

Oh yes I can. cake cuppa

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by David-Douglas on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 10:51 am

Halftime - Sco 12 v 10 Ita

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by Scottrf on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 11:07 am

David-Douglas wrote:Halftime - Sco 12 v 10 Ita

Struggling without the multitude of players called up for Lions duties Shocked Run

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 11:08 am

Scottrf wrote:
David-Douglas wrote:Halftime - Sco 12 v 10 Ita

Struggling without the multitude of players called up for Lions duties Shocked Run

You know it is the under 20s right?

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by Scottrf on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 11:10 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
David-Douglas wrote:Halftime - Sco 12 v 10 Ita

Struggling without the multitude of players called up for Lions duties Shocked Run

You know it is the under 20s right?
Nope!

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 11:11 am

I'll let you off then - the grown ups play on Saturday and hopefully we'll be a lot further ahead at half time.

Worth saying that this Italian under 20s team beat Ireland so are no mugs.

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 11:16 am

Scottrf wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
David-Douglas wrote:Halftime - Sco 12 v 10 Ita

Struggling without the multitude of players called up for Lions duties Shocked Run

You know it is the under 20s right?
Nope!
laughing

I love the honesty though.

I'm at work but it seems from your comments Italy are stifling our attack in a way Ireland could not. We don't seem to be shredding them up in the backs in the same way.
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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 11:28 am

They've fixed the feed!

17-16 Scotland 11 to go

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 11:33 am

You've got to say this young Italian team look good - promising future for Italian rugby.

We're falling off things a bit now - need to hold on.

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 11:43 am

Kinghorn once again showing why he showing why he should go nowhere near rucks - gives away a stupid penalty to give Italy a chance to win...

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 11:43 am

Scotland turnover - we win!

Top 8 finish guaranteed - great effort.

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 11:50 am

Sounds like a close run thing, but what sounds encouraging is that we seem to have a really fast gameplan with real attacking nous building a new generation to carry on what the senior team are doing.

Encouraging times for Scottish Rugby.
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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by BigGee on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 11:51 am

Well done to the Scots youngsters. A really good effort. I am looking forward to seeing the highlights.

Well done Italy as well, who with 2 BPs may yet go through to the last 8. Sounds like they deserve it. If the Italian system can get these kids through to the Pro teams, then there future looks a bit better as well.

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 11:51 am

Some good tries in the highlights reel to come.

The Kinghorn penalty at the end was totally bonkers - he charged head first into the ruck from the side. Really don't know what he was thinking! It was a classic back 3 player attempted clearout. He had some lovely runs again though.

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by jimbopip on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:24 pm

Random thoughts;
Italy were probably the better side. More clinical decision making, especially around penalties, and they could have been out of sight. Their 8,9 & 10 were superb.
Scotland showed some real grit to hang onto Italy's coat tails and then find a way to win. On 72 minutes I was applauding a brilliant Italian try when Robbie Nairn saved the day with a last ditch tackle. fagerson didn't carry as well as he does when he's at 8, but still put in a Herculean effort. Nairn looks a real prospect. Nicol looks like he could be the new Chunk; certainly in terms of athletic streamlining. kinghorn will be causing ructions on this Forum for some time to come; languid would be the most generous adjective to describe his playing style (and he is a stylish player) but I've got a feeling he'll also attract some less generous comments when things don't work out.

Tesco's Pick and Mix Giant Cupcake 7/10 oh yeah

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by nickj on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:25 pm

Really. They fixed the feed? I missed the second half then, bugger!

Here's the Nairn try http://www.worldrugby.org/video/254800


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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by nickj on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:26 pm

How did you watch it Jimbo? I couldnt find it on sky

Quite fancy trying to see the Irish / Baby Blacks game

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:33 pm

nickj wrote:Really. They fixed the feed? I missed the second half then, bugger!

Here's the Nairn try http://www.worldrugby.org/video/254800


I hope they show the unbelievably bad try balls up he did earlier - it is one of the worst you could see!

He did finish this one fantastically well though and looks like a big strong lad.

Once again questions why Edinburgh felt the need to sign Jason Harries...

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by tigertattie on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:37 pm

Territory restrictions are still on the website Sad

Nairn took his try well, sheer individual error on his part. The passing leading up to it was bloomin awful. One pass went behind the man causing him to stop and catch it with his back to the opposition (they really should have clattered him one). The next pass was a slow floating high pass that could have easily been intercepted.

Sharpen up the passing and they'll have a shot at getting further in the competition
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Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:39 pm

The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:39 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote: The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
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Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:40 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote: The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.

The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
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Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:41 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote: The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.

The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by nickj on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:41 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
nickj wrote:Really. They fixed the feed? I missed the second half then, bugger!

Here's the Nairn try http://www.worldrugby.org/video/254800


I hope they show the unbelievably bad try balls up he did earlier - it is one of the worst you could see!

He did finish this one fantastically well though and looks like a big strong lad.  

Once again questions why Edinburgh felt the need to sign Jason Harries...

Nairn's gone to Glasgow, hasn't he?

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:41 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote: The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.

The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:41 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote: The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.

The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
Headscratch

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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:42 pm

nickj wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
nickj wrote:Really. They fixed the feed? I missed the second half then, bugger!

Here's the Nairn try http://www.worldrugby.org/video/254800


I hope they show the unbelievably bad try balls up he did earlier - it is one of the worst you could see!

He did finish this one fantastically well though and looks like a big strong lad.  

Once again questions why Edinburgh felt the need to sign Jason Harries...

Nairn's gone to Glasgow, hasn't he?

I hope so the boy looks like a real talent. Sorry for the spam but NickJ's choice phrase has blocked this thread at my work so I'm spamming it to get it onto page 3.
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Re: Italy v Scotland, 10 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:42 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
nickj wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
nickj wrote:Really. They fixed the feed? I missed the second half then, bugger!

Here's the Nairn try http://www.worldrugby.org/video/254800


I hope they show the unbelievably bad try balls up he did earlier - it is one of the worst you could see!

He did finish this one fantastically well though and looks like a big strong lad.  

Once again questions why Edinburgh felt the need to sign Jason Harries...

Nairn's gone to Glasgow, hasn't he?

I hope so the boy looks like a real talent. Sorry for the spam but NickJ's choice phrase has blocked this thread at my work so I'm spamming it to get it onto page 3.
The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog.
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