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Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by George Carlin on Sun 11 Jun 2017, 9:05 am

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AUSTRALIA SCOTLAND  
17 June 2017
15:00 AEST (UTC+10)
Allianz Stadium, Sydney

Live on Sky

Referee: Wayne Barnes (England)
ARs: [tbc]
TMO: [tbc]

A. Head to Head

30 Played 30
21 Won 9
0 Drawn 0
9 Lost 21
729 Points 386 

B. Recent Form

12 November 2016
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
22 – 23 to Australia

18 October 2015 
Twickenham
35-34 to Australia

23 November 2013
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
15 – 21 to Australia

5 June 2012
Hunter Stadium, Newcastle
6 – 9 to Scotland

21 November 2009
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
9 – 8 to Scotland

C. TEAMS:

AUSTRALIA

Israel Folau; Dane Haylett-Petty, Tevita Kuridrani, Karmichael Hunt, Eto Nabuli; Bernard Foley, Will Genia; Tom Robertson, Tatafu Polota-Nau, Allan Alaalatoa; Sam Carter, Adam Coleman; Ned Hanigan, Michael Hooper (capt), Scott Higginbotham.

Bench to be announced.

SCOTLAND 

Greig Tonks; Lee Jones, Alex Dunbar, Duncan Taylor, Rory Hughes; Finn Russell, Ali Price; Gordon Reid, Fraser Brown, Zander Fagerson; Ben Toolis, Jonny Gray; John Barclay (capt), Hamish Watson, Ryan Wilson.

Replacements: Ross Ford, Allan Dell, WP Nel, Tim Swinson, Josh Strauss, Henry Pyrgos, Ruaridh Jackson, Matt Scott.


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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 7:55 am

We can't go through this a 3rd time - we can't!!

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by eirebilly on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 7:56 am

Believe Scotland, believe
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 7:57 am

That's where we miss Hogg - needed that to Ho to half way

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 7:57 am

Key turnover penalty from Dell!
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 7:58 am

Tonks kick had to go out.

We've been here before - don't mess up!!!

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by eirebilly on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:00 am

Terrible from Scotland... That had to be kept.
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by TightHEAD on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:00 am

What a performance from the Scots, enjoy it lads.

Gatland won't take any notice though.! What a Kumquat he is.
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by eirebilly on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:00 am

They have it now. Well done Scotland clap
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:02 am

4th in the rankings!!!!!!
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by eirebilly on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:02 am

Enjoy the day Scottish fans, it was well worth getting up early to watch yiz today.

Russell defo MOTM.
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by GunsGermsV2 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:02 am

Gooooo Scotland

Epic Finn Russell

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Scottrf on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:02 am

What a win! Congrats guys!
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:02 am

Yeeeeeeeeees!!!!

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:02 am

YA BEAUTY!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:02 am

Dan Biggar over Find Russell is so many lols.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:03 am

That was so worth getting up for!!!!

Finn Russell the best fly half at the Lions disposal.
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by BigTrevsbigmac on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:03 am

Well done Scotland

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by TightHEAD on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:03 am

I guess it's a long flight from aus to NZ
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by eirebilly on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:04 am

Actually a very complete performance. Solid in defence and showed great attacking lines and pressured the Aussies into mistakes.

Poor from the Aussies to not take the points when they were on offer with more than enough time left though. Seriously underestimated the Scottish defence.
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:05 am

@RuggerRadge2611 wrote:That was so worth getting up for!!!!

Finn Russell the best fly half at the Lions disposal.

His performance today and Ford's last weekend highlight exactly what the Lions are missing.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:06 am

Looking forward to seeing the first half tries!

Got to say Australia really were poor - terrible kicking and why didn't they go for points?

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Taylorman on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:06 am

Well done Scotland, suppose there are some pluses from not getting too many Lions. Nice!

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by BigGee on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:07 am

What about that then!

Watching Australia waste their chances at the end reminded me of how Scotland used to play, not any more!

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Mad for Chelsea on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:21 am

Yay!! Very Happy

Fine performance from Scotland. Defensively in the second half they were terrific, considering how much possession Australia had. Watson and Barclay were excellent at the breakdown.

Russell clap clap just adds so much to the attack of any team. Biggar ahead of him (and Ford) makes less and less sense as the weeks go by.

The Toonie Tombola worked Very Happy. Thought Tonks was solid enough, don't think he can get too much blame for the Folau try, though maybe should have got off the ground a bit earlier to disrupt. Obviously a bit of a makeshift at full back, but did his job today IMO. Jones played a key part in the Watson try (which was a lovely team effort) too. But basically everyone put in a pretty good shift. For me MOM would be between Barclay, Watson and Russell.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by carpet baboon on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:24 am

Frickin well done Scotland.
Who got mom ?

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Griff on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:30 am

Congrats Scotland!

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by R!skysports on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:42 am

I think we are now 4th in the world now

And it was not raining a monsoon

Fantastic performance

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by GunsGermsV2 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:45 am

@Taylorman wrote:Well done Scotland, suppose there are some pluses from not getting too many Lions. Nice!

Well 3 of their best players were with the Lions including their captain and they still won in Sydney.

Take Folau and a couple of Australias top players out of their team and they would probably struggle

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:48 am

We were without Dickinson, R Gray, Laidlaw, Huw Jones, Mark Bennett, Tim Visser,Tommy Seymour, Sean Maitland and Stuart Hogg - all who would likely be in the 23.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by cakeordeath on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:53 am

There is a rumour going about that Dell Erm and Russell are getting a Lions call up

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by jimbopip on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:54 am

Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo

Where,oh where can we see this?

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Tombola roolz ya bass. Braveheart Braveheart Braveheart Braveheart

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by jimbopip on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:57 am

@RDW_Scotland wrote:We were without Dickinson, R Gray, Laidlaw, Huw Jones, Mark Bennett, Tim Visser,Tommy Seymour, Sean Maitland and Stuart Hogg - all who would likely be in the 23.

Ah, RDW my amigo Hug , that's the Luvvie in you speaking. They are in our best 23 so most coaches would select them in our 23. But we are now in the age of The Magic Tombola. Strap yourself in it's going to be a bumpy ride.


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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by cakeordeath on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:59 am

Ryan Wilson would start a fight in an empty kebab shop. Strauss made a difference when he came on.


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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 9:00 am

clap clap clap Some of these players should have been called up days ago, but it's probably too late now. Want some advice? Keep playing for yourselves! Great result and great start to life under Townsend. It will be interesting to see if this carries on into next season.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by BigGee on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 9:02 am

We probably need to give Greg Tonks a bit of a shout out. He certainly confounded critics and had a very decent game including a very good assist in the Watson try.

I think Folou would have scored that try against just about anyone in the world, so I am not going to be to hard on him about that.

Tonks, Jones and Hughes all did ok in fact, defensively very solid. None of them are going to be regular starters but showed that they can step in when needed.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by TJ on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 9:17 am

top performance all round and yes Tonks deserves a mention for being pretty solid most of the game

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 9:18 am

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/16057/10918169/lions-call-up-kristian-dacey-gareth-davies-cory-hill-and-tomas-francis

A further announcement is expected this weekend with Scotland duo Allan Dell and Finn Russell due to fly in to join the squad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40310086
Scotland, meanwhile, are in Sydney to face Australia on Saturday and prop Allan Dell and fly-half Finn Russell are set to be added to the Lions squad following that game.
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 9:21 am

@A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/16057/10918169/lions-call-up-kristian-dacey-gareth-davies-cory-hill-and-tomas-francis

A further announcement is expected this weekend with Scotland duo Allan Dell and Finn Russell due to fly in to join the squad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40310086
Scotland, meanwhile, are in Sydney to face Australia on Saturday and prop Allan Dell and fly-half Finn Russell are set to be added to the Lions squad following that game.


I'd tell Gatland to do one. Get some of the Wales tourists to hold bloody tackle bags.

Both should travel to Fiji and help make it a 3 out of 3 tour.
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 9:29 am

@RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
@A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/16057/10918169/lions-call-up-kristian-dacey-gareth-davies-cory-hill-and-tomas-francis

A further announcement is expected this weekend with Scotland duo Allan Dell and Finn Russell due to fly in to join the squad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40310086
Scotland, meanwhile, are in Sydney to face Australia on Saturday and prop Allan Dell and fly-half Finn Russell are set to be added to the Lions squad following that game.


I'd tell Gatland to do one. Get some of the Wales tourists to hold bloody tackle bags.

Both should travel to Fiji and help make it a 3 out of 3 tour.

All four of the welsh boys called up are good club players at best, which is what i find most confusing, they're not proven at test level (a weak win over Tonga does not count). Hopefully holding tackle bags is all they'll be doing.
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Mad for Chelsea on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 9:30 am

Dell being called up to the Lions Laugh

No really, I like the guy, and he's a fine servant to Scottish rugby, but not sure about this one. I suppose he's at least as deserving as Davey or Hill though...

Russell's call-up would be well deserved, and long overdue. He's created/scored more tries in two games than the Lions have scored throughout the tour so far.

I suppose from a Scotland viewpoint it's better for him to be going after the Aus game rather than the Fiji one, but it would still be a shame to lose him if all he's doing is holding tackle bags and bench warming in mid-week games. Can't see Gats ever picking him in a Test 23...

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 9:41 am

@A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:
@RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
@A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/16057/10918169/lions-call-up-kristian-dacey-gareth-davies-cory-hill-and-tomas-francis

A further announcement is expected this weekend with Scotland duo Allan Dell and Finn Russell due to fly in to join the squad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40310086
Scotland, meanwhile, are in Sydney to face Australia on Saturday and prop Allan Dell and fly-half Finn Russell are set to be added to the Lions squad following that game.


I'd tell Gatland to do one. Get some of the Wales tourists to hold bloody tackle bags.

Both should travel to Fiji and help make it a 3 out of 3 tour.

All four of the welsh boys called up are good club players at best, which is what i find most confusing, they're not proven at test level (a weak win over Tonga does not count). Hopefully holding tackle bags is all they'll be doing.

Wrong. Two of them might be club players at best, but have a long way to go in their international career, whilst the other two are proven internationals. I think Gats has lost the plot calling these up but you sound unbelievably bitter with this comment, the usual we've come to expect.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by BigGee on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 9:46 am

@mikey_dragon wrote:
@A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:
@RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
@A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/16057/10918169/lions-call-up-kristian-dacey-gareth-davies-cory-hill-and-tomas-francis

A further announcement is expected this weekend with Scotland duo Allan Dell and Finn Russell due to fly in to join the squad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40310086
Scotland, meanwhile, are in Sydney to face Australia on Saturday and prop Allan Dell and fly-half Finn Russell are set to be added to the Lions squad following that game.


I'd tell Gatland to do one. Get some of the Wales tourists to hold bloody tackle bags.

Both should travel to Fiji and help make it a 3 out of 3 tour.

All four of the welsh boys called up are good club players at best, which is what i find most confusing, they're not proven at test level (a weak win over Tonga does not count). Hopefully holding tackle bags is all they'll be doing.

Wrong. Two of them might be club players at best, but have a long way to go in their international career, whilst the other two are proven internationals. I think Gats has lost the plot calling these up but you sound unbelievably bitter with this comment, the usual we've come to expect.

A bit like the selections we have come to expect!

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 9:49 am

@BigGee wrote:
A bit like the selections we have come to expect!

Yeah, true. I would have called in more Scots but probably before the Aus game.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:00 am

I get that Gatland needs to bring in some reinforcements. However if there is no chance they can force their way into the tests what's the point?

Corbs in 2013, Croft in 2009 and Ryan Jones in 2005. Lions who came in as injuries mounted and made a difference.
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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:05 am

Well Russell might feel he has a chance to prove his worth and at least get on the bench for one of the tests. The term cannon fodder springs to mind with some of the Wales boys as they won't make the test team.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by TJ on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:12 am

Russell will not be given a bench place for the tests. That would mean Gatland accepting he was wrong.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by jimbopip on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:18 am

Lads, let's not get derailed here.
Scotland, without seven or eight first team players, beat the Criminal Element in Sydney.
I didn't see it so can someone give me some details

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by BigGee on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:24 am

@jimbopip wrote:Lads, let's not get derailed here.
Scotland, without seven or eight first team players, beat the Criminal Element in Sydney.
I didn't see it so can someone give me some details

Austalia did play like they had met in the bar just before the game but great credit to Scotland for a ferocious defence, especially in the 2nd half which pressured Australia into many mistakes and taking their tries very well, including an end of the earth special that only existed in the minds eye of FR when it was conceived.

Another veryclose again between these to rivals, but you could not say we were not worth the win.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:26 am

@jimbopip wrote:Lads, let's not get derailed here.
Scotland, without seven or eight first team players, beat the Criminal Element in Sydney.
I didn't see it so can someone give me some details

Barclay and the Mish absolutely bossed the breakdown.
Russell ran a masterclass at 10. Kicked well, defensively very solid, and ran some amazing lines.
Taylor and Dunbar formed a very effective partnership.
The back 3, lacking test match experience played well. Hughes was quiet but showed up when necessary, Lee Jones was a critical player in the Mish's try.
Tonks had a solid game, however he had a tough time against Folou in the air, but he (Folou) was unplayable for large swathes of the first half.

My man of the match Finn Russell. Followed by a couple toss between Watson, Hooper and Barclay.
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by tigertattie on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:28 am

Well.

The tombola wins again.

4th in the world.

Shows what we all know eh!
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