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Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by George Carlin on Sun 11 Jun 2017, 9:05 am

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AUSTRALIA SCOTLAND  
17 June 2017
15:00 AEST (UTC+10)
Allianz Stadium, Sydney

Live on Sky

Referee: Wayne Barnes (England)
ARs: [tbc]
TMO: [tbc]

A. Head to Head

30 Played 30
21 Won 9
0 Drawn 0
9 Lost 21
729 Points 386 

B. Recent Form

12 November 2016
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
22 – 23 to Australia

18 October 2015 
Twickenham
35-34 to Australia

23 November 2013
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
15 – 21 to Australia

5 June 2012
Hunter Stadium, Newcastle
6 – 9 to Scotland

21 November 2009
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
9 – 8 to Scotland

C. TEAMS:

AUSTRALIA

Israel Folau; Dane Haylett-Petty, Tevita Kuridrani, Karmichael Hunt, Eto Nabuli; Bernard Foley, Will Genia; Tom Robertson, Tatafu Polota-Nau, Allan Alaalatoa; Sam Carter, Adam Coleman; Ned Hanigan, Michael Hooper (capt), Scott Higginbotham.

Bench to be announced.

SCOTLAND 

Greig Tonks; Lee Jones, Alex Dunbar, Duncan Taylor, Rory Hughes; Finn Russell, Ali Price; Gordon Reid, Fraser Brown, Zander Fagerson; Ben Toolis, Jonny Gray; John Barclay (capt), Hamish Watson, Ryan Wilson.

Replacements: Ross Ford, Allan Dell, WP Nel, Tim Swinson, Josh Strauss, Henry Pyrgos, Ruaridh Jackson, Matt Scott.


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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by TJ on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:29 am

Mish?  Who he?

ah - HaMISH Watson I guess

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by TJ on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:33 am

Jimbo - Scotland pressured the criminal element all game denying them time and space in the midfield forcing aus to either pass wide or kick. Scotland gave away far too many penalties which gave Aus territory but turnovers including 2 on the line gave Scotland an edge. Scotland held them out from 5m 2 or 3 times and Scotland had the belief to win it.

Stats all in favour of Aus bar turnovers. Russell a very assured game with a fair bit of control and no brain farts


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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Taylorman on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:36 am

GunsGermsV2 wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Well done Scotland, suppose there are some pluses from not getting too many Lions. Nice!

Well 3 of their best players were with the Lions including their captain and they still won in Sydney.

Take Folau and a couple of Australias top players out of their team and they would probably struggle

Well they struggled with them so yeah, gotta agree with that. Going to be another bad year for oz rugby. Just a question of whether Bok rugby will be worse, though they had an ok start.

Genia practically gave the game to the Scots being directly responsible for the first two tries.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by tigertattie on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:39 am

Surely now we can start the "dark horses for the 6 nations" thread?
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Heuer27 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:48 am

Being just a girly back, I clearly don't know what I'm talking about but Ben Toolis has been dynamite since he has been brought off the naughty step by Toonie. He and junior look to be a great boilerhouse.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:59 am

Horne starting at 10 for Fiji then!
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:01 am

Confirmed Dell and Russell called up.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by jimbopip on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:03 am

OK OK OK
Thanks lads. Bubbly Bubbly Bubbly

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Mad for Chelsea on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:03 am

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Horne starting at 10 for Fiji then!

Well at least we'll be getting a peek into how utterly frakked we'd be if Russell ever does get injured Very Happy

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by TJ on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:15 am

Genia practically gave the game to the Scots being directly responsible for the first two tries
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Nope - the scots won them with their pressure. Its no co incidence Scotland score a lot from turnovers, interceptions and chargedowns - we play for them

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:27 am

TJ wrote:
Genia practically gave the game to the Scots being directly responsible for the first two tries
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Nope - the scots won them with their pressure.  Its no co incidence Scotland score a lot from turnovers, interceptions and chargedowns - we play for them

Scarlets were playing like that in the second half of the season, it did them some good.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:34 am

https://youtu.be/muwe7CNSka4



Goal kicking was huge today - meant they had to go for a try instead of goal for the late penalty.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:35 am

mikey_dragon wrote:
TJ wrote:
Genia practically gave the game to the Scots being directly responsible for the first two tries
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Nope - the scots won them with their pressure.  Its no co incidence Scotland score a lot from turnovers, interceptions and chargedowns - we play for them

Scarlets were playing like that in the second half of the season, it did them some good.

Well the Scarlets and Scotland both have very mobile and dynamic backrows. That helps apply that sort of pressure. Barclay and the Mish quickly becoming indispensable to the Scottish cause.

No. 8 still a bit of a problem area. I'd like to see Bradbury start against Fiji.
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by GLove39 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:42 am

Now that was worth getting up for!!!

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:47 am

GLove39 wrote:Now that was worth getting up for!!!

Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo

I trust there will be a celebration video uploaded soon?

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by eirebilly on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:51 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:
GLove39 wrote:Now that was worth getting up for!!!

Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo

I trust there will be a celebration video uploaded soon?

Ha, was thinking the same.
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Poorfour on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:53 am

Really well done Scotland. Still a lot more to do in attack - until the last try (which was a beaut) there was far too much taking the ball standing still - but heroic defence brought its just reward.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 12:15 pm

Absolutely buzzing from that win, despite having arguably 7 or 8 first team players out, to roll the Ozzies in Sydney is some achievement.

Cotter has laid amazing foundations for Toonie to build on. Stirring stuff!
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Hood83 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 12:58 pm

That's an amazing achievement, really chuffed for Scotland after the near misses. Great seeing NH rugby stuffing the SH...now we all need to find a way to beat the ABs.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Heaf on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 1:08 pm

Well done Scotland - great result.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by tigertattie on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 2:17 pm

Hmmmmm

Having seen the highlights am I right in thinking we were rather lacklustre in attack? It wasn't until the bench came on that we seemed to get a bit creative.

Not wanting to put a dampener on things. Just want to make sure we kick on.

My question is this (now I've only seen the highlights which can deceive) but should we think about having Taylor at 12 and playing Matt Scott at 13? Dunbar is looking a bit blunt of late
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by EST on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 2:37 pm

What a great result, delighted for the guys that they were able to get over the victory line at the end. Also delighted to see Toonies bold selection policy pay off - he isn't going to die wondering, Gregor.

Final word on Finn Russell, I think he will really flourish in the Lions environment and I hope he gets a chance to show what he can do.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by eirebilly on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 2:54 pm

tigertattie wrote:Hmmmmm

Having seen the highlights am I right in thinking we were rather lacklustre in attack? It wasn't until the bench came on that we seemed to get a bit creative.

Not wanting to put a dampener on things. Just want to make sure we kick on.

My question is this (now I've only seen the highlights which can deceive) but should we think about having Taylor at 12 and playing Matt Scott at 13? Dunbar is looking a bit blunt of late

Scotland were actually very good in attack, they were running some great lines and Russell was very good in lining up the attack. They certainly took the Aussies by shock and forced them into errors. Their defensive line was also very good, only being exposed a couple of times.

In times gone past, we would have seen a Scotland team run out losers by a small margin but today they had a different air about them, lots of composure shown under extreme pressure towards the end of the match. It was a quality game and I suggest you watch it in full.
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Mad for Chelsea on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 3:03 pm

I thought Scotland were decent in attack, though there's still room for improvement. They had very limited possession, and even less than that in the Aussie half, but still managed to create a lovely team try and cause a few more problems.

Possibly they could/should have done more with the ball they had at the start of the game, where they had a good period in the Aus half. Though fair dues, Australia were solid defensively.

Second half they barely had the ball at all, seemed to be almost constant defense, and when they did crack they just went straight up the other end to score.

Toonie will definitely have areas he wants to improve, I think getting the wingers involved more is one of them. I suspect that Taylor-Jones would now be his first choice centre pairing, but I thought Dunbar put in a good shift today: made some strong carries, and of course won the final turnover.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 4:03 pm

Dammit World Rugby just tweeted saying we're actually still in 5th place.

I'm assuming our win didn't actually count (they never do remember) for some reason - the wind blowing, Australia not playing well, Brexit etc...

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by TJ on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 4:25 pm

Scotland were a bit blunt in attack - we are less dangerous without Hogg, Seymour, Maitland and visser. Most teams would suffer losing their 4 most potent attacking weapons and our dpth remains poor Huges, tonks and Jones are just a way behind

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 4:30 pm

TJ wrote:Scotland were a bit blunt in attack - we are less dangerous without Hogg, Seymour, Maitland and visser.  Most teams would suffer losing their 4 most potent attacking weapons and our dpth remains poor  Huges, tonks and Jones are just a way behind

I think that's a bit harsh. Tonks and Jones linked well for our 3rd try. They are a step down from those you mentioned... But they hamm are hardly blunt. We scored 3 tries!
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by jimbopip on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 4:53 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Horne starting at 10 for Fiji then!

Probably Jackson.
However, three games and the travelling will take it out of the players so I fully expect that right now Toonie is oiling the Tombola and it will spin like never before. Very Happy

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 6:46 pm

Scotland were good out wide in attack and at the breakdown. I thought Aus played their usual open/fast rugby like last week, and again they made some uncharacteristic errors. There's not much structure to their play by the look of it and their game is very loose. Some aussies might not like to hear it but they had their most structure under Deans and as a result lost less games against the All Blacks.... Not taking anything away from Scotland though, they were put under a lot of pressure near the end and pulled on through. Remarkable improvement in a short space of time under Townsend.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Poorfour on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 7:48 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Dammit World Rugby just tweeted saying we're actually still in 5th place.

I'm assuming our win didn't actually count (they never do remember) for some reason - the wind blowing, Australia not playing well, Brexit etc...

The rankings are only updated every Monday, after all the weekend's games are done. Pundit Arena reckon that the top 4 will read NZ, England, Ireland, Scotland - highest ever place for Scotland, and I think the first time we have had three NH sides in the top 4.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Cyril on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 7:52 pm

Scotland up to 5th using: http://irbrankingcalculator.azurewebsites.net/

Still .73 behind Aus who drop to 4th.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 7:54 pm

Were we not 5th after the 6N?

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by TJ on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 7:56 pm

yes we were IIRC

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Cyril on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 7:58 pm

SA overtook Scotland when they thrashed France last week (they've smashed them again today too).

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:01 pm

The peculiarities of the world rankings - we beat a team ahead of us away from home and we get overtaken by a team beating a team below them at home!

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Cyril on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:03 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:The peculiarities of the world rankings - we beat a team ahead of us away from home and we get overtaken by a team beating a team below them at home!
No, SA moved ahead last week when Scotland only gained a tiny amount by beating Italy (SA got more points by beating France). Scotland move back above them this week when the rankings are updated on Monday (they gained more points than SA in their respective games).

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:04 pm

Well that makes a bit more sense!

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Cyril on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:05 pm

After today's games (so far). Table formatting is a bit wonky!


[th]#[/th][th]Team[/th][th]Points[/th]
1New Zealand94.78
2England89.87
3↑ (4)Ireland84.66
4↓ (3)Australia84.63 (-1.72)
5↑ (6)Scotland83.90 (+1.72)
6↓ (5)South Africa83.63 (+0.76)
7Wales81.36
8France80.16 (-0.76)

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 8:18 pm

<span id="sceditor-end-marker" class="sceditor-selection sceditor-ignore" style="line-height: 0; display: none;"></span><span id="sceditor-start-marker" class="sceditor-selection sceditor-ignore" style="line-height: 0; display: none;"></span>
Cyril wrote:After today's games (so far). Table formatting is a bit wonky!


[th]#[/th][th]Team[/th][th]Points[/th]
1New Zealand94.78
2England89.87
3↑ (4)Ireland84.66
4↓ (3)Australia84.63&nbsp;(-1.72)
5↑ (6)Scotland83.90&nbsp;(+1.72)
6↓ (5)South Africa83.63&nbsp;(+0.76)
7Wales81.36
8France80.16&nbsp;(-0.76)

Ireland are on 85.09 points - they gain a few for beating Japan

The rankings calculator here: https://rawling.github.io/wr-calc/ is really good
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by cakeordeath on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 9:11 pm

The calculator works it out as us being 5th. However world rugby tweeted that Scotland had moved up to 4th

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 10:10 pm

Cheika absolutely roasted an unnamed Scottish rugby journalist :

Cheika snapped at a Scottish journalist who asked if the Wallabies coach was surprised at how well Scotland played given so few people gave them a chance of pulling off an upset win.

"The only people who are saying that Scotland aren't up to it is the Scottish media," Cheika said. "You keep putting yourself down and maybe it's so you can get up for the game. We think Scotland are a top team. We never said anything about that, you guys say it and then you perpetuate the story back through us somehow. I don't see our media saying that.

"We knew what we were going to be in for and we got exactly what we expected."
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:12 pm

A fair point, but in the modern world of bland interviews where you always say you respect the opposition and are expecting a tough game they never will downplay Scotland in public!

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Cyril on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:16 pm

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:<span id="sceditor-end-marker" class="sceditor-selection sceditor-ignore" style="line-height: 0; display: none;"></span><span id="sceditor-start-marker" class="sceditor-selection sceditor-ignore" style="line-height: 0; display: none;"></span>
Cyril wrote:After today's games (so far). Table formatting is a bit wonky!


[th]#[/th][th]Team[/th][th]Points[/th]
1New Zealand94.78
2England89.87
3↑ (4)Ireland84.66
4↓ (3)Australia84.63&nbsp;(-1.72)
5↑ (6)Scotland83.90&nbsp;(+1.72)
6↓ (5)South Africa83.63&nbsp;(+0.76)
7Wales81.36
8France80.16&nbsp;(-0.76)

Ireland are on 85.09 points - they gain a few for beating Japan

The rankings calculator here: https://rawling.github.io/wr-calc/ is really good
I didn't bother working out Japan/Ireland as I assumed Japan were so far down the rankings as not to matter. They're really, really tailed off since Jones etc left them.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Cyril on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:47 pm

By the way, brilliant win for Scotland. Well played chaps Smile

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by lostinwales on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 12:03 am

Cyril wrote:By the way, brilliant win for Scotland. Well played chaps Smile

Seconded. Its been a good weekend for NH teams, male and female.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by Cyril on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 12:11 am

lostinwales wrote:
Cyril wrote:By the way, brilliant win for Scotland. Well played chaps Smile

Seconded. Its been a good weekend for NH teams, male and female.
Yep, great win for England ladies over NZ Smile

SA stuffed France again. Maybe a resurgence from them. Or have France been poor? Not seen either game.

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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by George Carlin on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 9:30 am

Nice write up from Cully in the SM Herald:
Robotic Wallabies left behind in last decade
Paul Cully


1. Let's address the idea suggested in Fox Sports commentary that the Scots lacked inventiveness and only kept with the Wallabies because of their doggedness. Nothing could be further from the truth. If you look carefully at the Wallabies attacking structure against Scotland on Saturday it was highly predictable - almost robotic.

The Wallabies like to attack the same way - a lot. For phase after phase they tend to sweep in behind No.9 Will Genia in the same direction, rarely then switching the point of attack or loading up on the short side.

This is in contrast to a lot of the top teams in the world and when the Scots had the ball they kept the Wallabies guessing by splitting their runners on either side of the ruck and backing their skills even in tighter spaces. And when they did decide to attack one side of the field, runners were often then stepping back in to straighten the attack or at least hold the defence.

The Wallabies have excellent, athletic outside backs but the attack was poorly coached on Saturday and predictable. And although the Scots were hanging a bit at the end, they were not that stressed over the 80 minutes.

2. The Wallabies just aren't fit enough. The Wallabies lost the last 25 minutes to Fiji last week and they lost the last 20 minutes to Scotland on Saturday. For so long conditioning was an area where Australia had an edge against teams but that is now long gone.

The Scots were still going strong at the end of the game, even though it is the end of a very long season for them.

This issue is not new – the Wallabies weren't fit enough last year – and you can frequently see in Super Rugby games that there are 20-minute periods when Australian teams just disappear out of the contest.

It's frustrating for the paying punter because it's fixable – look at the energy Eddie Jones' England – essentially a B team – played with in Argentina.    

3. Quade Cooper cameo broke up the monotony. The Reds No.10 almost won the game for the Wallabies with some nice attacking touches, including a terrific flat pass to Tevita Kuridrani and an offload to Bernard Foley.

Cooper has not been good for the Reds this year but he clearly understands the game and from his position on the bench must have known that the Wallabies simply weren't asking the Scots enough questions.

Others tried hard too. Michael Hooper tried to spark things but when you keep getting isolated and turned over it tells you that some teammates aren't working as hard as you are.

4. Finn Russell highlights Lions' folly. The Scotland No.10 was excellent in Sydney. Not only did he manipulate the Wallabies' defence with his sleight of hand and distribution skills but he pulled off a fantastic try-saving tackle on Israel Folau in the dying minutes.

It was a dominant display by the No.10 and although he has been called into the Lions squad to help out their midweek side against the Chiefs on Tuesday, it's a bit of a backhanded compliment. Warren Gatland erred in not taking him in the first place and Russell proved his point on Saturday.

The Lions were completely in control against an outclassed Maori tight five earlier on Saturday but for the second weekend in a row failed to create a try for their backs. Their lack of creativity will ultimately be their undoing.

5. Springboks wake from their slumber. It is still too early to talk about a Springboks renaissance but a second convincing win against France showcased their increasing cohesiveness and willingness to work for each other in defence.

Personnel-wise the Springboks aren't that much different from last year, although the investment in new captain Warren Whiteley seems to be paying off.

There is clearly a strong Lions influence running through the spine of the side but everyone appears to be buying into the new direction – No.12 Jan Serfontein just hurled himself into French bodies. They have definitely taken some positive steps.  

Team of the Week

1. Mako Vunipola (British and Irish Lions)

2. Jamie George (British and Irish Lions)

3. Tadhg Furlong (British and Irish Lions)

4. Brodie Retallick (New Zealand)

5. Maro Itoje (British and Irish Lions)

6. Jerome Kaino (New Zealand)

7. Siya Kolisi (South Africa)

8. Taulepe Faletau (British and Irish Lions)

9. Conor Murray (British and Irish Lions)

10. Finn Russell (Scotland)

11. Julia Savea (New Zealand)

12. Ben Te'o (British and Irish Lions)

13. Anton Lienert-Brown (New Zealand)

14. Israel Dagg (New Zealand)

15. Ben Smith (New Zealand)
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Re: Australia v Scotland, 17 June

Post by mikey_dragon on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 9:31 am

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Cheika absolutely roasted an unnamed Scottish rugby journalist :

Cheika snapped at a Scottish journalist who asked if the Wallabies coach was surprised at how well Scotland played given so few people gave them a chance of pulling off an upset win.

"The only people who are saying that Scotland aren't up to it is the Scottish media," Cheika said. "You keep putting yourself down and maybe it's so you can get up for the game. We think Scotland are a top team. We never said anything about that, you guys say it and then you perpetuate the story back through us somehow. I don't see our media saying that.

"We knew what we were going to be in for and we got exactly what we expected."

That's great. I think it applies to the fans too, because when you talk about Finn Russell it's like watching a good cop-bad cop routine. We know Russell is often capable of the sublime or ridiculous and right now he's in good form, but next week he could do something bad and you'll all be saying he isn't an international player again...

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 10:34 am

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RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Cheika absolutely roasted an unnamed Scottish rugby journalist :

Cheika snapped at a Scottish journalist who asked if the Wallabies coach was surprised at how well Scotland played given so few people gave them a chance of pulling off an upset win.

"The only people who are saying that Scotland aren't up to it is the Scottish media," Cheika said. "You keep putting yourself down and maybe it's so you can get up for the game. We think Scotland are a top team. We never said anything about that, you guys say it and then you perpetuate the story back through us somehow. I don't see our media saying that.

"We knew what we were going to be in for and we got exactly what we expected."

That's great. I think it applies to the fans too, because when you talk about Finn Russell it's like watching a good cop-bad cop routine. We know Russell is often capable of the sublime or ridiculous and right now he's in good form, but next week he could do something bad and you'll all be saying he isn't an international player again...

Personally I have never questioned his international credentials. If I were to do so I'd have to question Townsend in the same way. They are so similar in the way they play it is freaky.
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Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 10:41 am

Yeah I'm not sure of many Scots questioning his international credentials - that's all come you lot!

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