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Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by George Carlin on Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:27 pm

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Maori All Blacks British & Irish Lions
17 June 2017
KO: 19:35 NZST (8.35am BST)
Rotorua International Stadium, Rotorua

Live on Sky Sports, Sky Sports HD and SkyGo

Referee: Jaco Peyper (South Africa)
Touch judges: [tbc]
TMO: [tbc]

A. FORM:

Played 8, Maori won 1, Lions won 7

Recently:

2005-06-11
NZ Maori 19 - 13 British and Irish Lions

1993-05-29
NZ Maori 20 - 24 British and Irish Lions

1977-07-13
NZ Maori 19 - 22 British and Irish Lions

B. TEAMS:

Maori All Blacks 
J Lowe; N Milner-Skudder, M Proctor, C Ngatai, R Ioane; D McKenzie, T Kerr-Barlow; K Hames, A Dixon (capt), B May, J Wheeler, T Franklin, A Ioane, E Dixon, L Messam.

Replacements: H Elliot, C Eves, M Renata, L Price, K Pryor, B Hall, I West, R Thompson.

British & Irish Lions
L Halfpenny (Wales); A Watson (England), J Davies (Wales), B Te'o (England), G North (Wales); J Sexton, C Murray (both Ireland); M Vunipola, J George (both England), T Furlong (Ireland), M Itoje, G Kruis (both England), P O'Mahony (capt, Ireland), S O'Brien (Ireland), T Faletau (Wales).

Replacements: K Owens (Wales), J McGrath (Ireland), K Sinckler (England), I Henderson (Ireland), S Warburton (Wales), G Laidlaw (Scotland), D Biggar (Wales), E Daly (England).

C. PREVIEW



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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by rumpelstiltskindoh on Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:00 pm

^I knew I shouldn't have gone out to make a cup of tea

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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:03 pm

Pretty confident Teo could do that too... Run

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Post by cascough on Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:06 pm


As far as i can work out he is the ONLY person that has called it. There's been nothing from the Lions camp so all the news articles, including the BBC one that Robbo has posted are coming from Hansen.

Unless Gatland et al has now said something?

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Post by marty2086 on Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:07 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Pretty confident Teo could do that too... Run

Think we saw him miss a few against the Crusaders Whistle

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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by Gwlad on Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:56 pm

Every time Taylorman posts on here he does a little war dance first. Rispict.

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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by Gwlad on Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:41 pm

Hansen looks more like Jabba the Hut every day, does he leave a trail of poor quality sledging everywhere he goes? Gats is picking more players, Gabs is running out of time (er, so are you Jabba), the man's obsessed about what Gets is doing, shows up his obvious insecurity.

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:35 pm

Gwlad wrote:Hansen looks more like Jabba the Hut every day, does he leave a trail of poor quality sledging everywhere he goes? Gats is picking more players, Gabs is running out of time (er, so are you Jabba), the man's obsessed about what Gets is doing, shows up his obvious insecurity.

His team just marmalised Samoa. I'm entirely sure he's not worried about what Gatland is doing.

I'm frankly terrified about what awaits us next weekend.
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Post by No 7&1/2 on Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:56 pm

Don't be. We have some class players the 1 thing going with us strongly is that pack. It's going to be close.

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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by TJ on Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:11 pm

I bet its nothing like close.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:21 pm

What's nothing like close in your eyes

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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by Taylorman on Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:06 pm

Gwlad wrote:Hansen looks more like Jabba the Hut every day, does he leave a trail of poor quality sledging everywhere he goes? Gats is picking more players, Gabs is running out of time (er, so are you Jabba), the man's obsessed about what Gets is doing, shows up his obvious insecurity.

Only one who is obsessed around here. Starting to get that nervous tick back are we? Why would Hansen give a hoot about a coach he's never lost to? Your dreaming.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:20 pm

Were Samoa at full strength...?

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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by aucklandlaurie on Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:19 pm

I would place Samoa and The Maori All Blacks as very similar strengthed teams.

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Post by TightHEAD on Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:49 pm

Are these call up rumours true?
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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by Gwlad on Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:53 pm

Taylorman wrote:
Gwlad wrote:Hansen looks more like Jabba the Hut every day, does he leave a trail of poor quality sledging everywhere he goes? Gats is picking more players, Gabs is running out of time (er, so are you Jabba), the man's obsessed about what Gets is doing, shows up his obvious insecurity.

Only one who is obsessed around here. Starting to get that nervous tick back are we? Why would Hansen give a hoot about a coach he's never lost to? Your dreaming.

I'd rather be a dreamer than a fat Kiwi.

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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by ebop on Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:03 pm

Gatland is rotund and you love him like a dad
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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by aucklandlaurie on Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:05 pm

Gwlad wrote:
Taylorman wrote:
Gwlad wrote:Hansen looks more like Jabba the Hut every day, does he leave a trail of poor quality sledging everywhere he goes? Gats is picking more players, Gabs is running out of time (er, so are you Jabba), the man's obsessed about what Gets is doing, shows up his obvious insecurity.

Only one who is obsessed around here. Starting to get that nervous tick back are we? Why would Hansen give a hoot about a coach he's never lost to? Your dreaming.

I'd rather be a dreamer than a fat Kiwi.

 Some dreams turn into nightmares Gwlad, dont do it to yourself.

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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by Gwlad on Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:20 pm

Watching Hansen's flabby cheeks flapping gives me bad dreams.

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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by Taylorman on Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:27 pm

Gwlad wrote:Watching Hansen's flabby cheeks flapping gives me bad dreams.

That explains a few things.

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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by Gwlad on Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:29 pm

You a fellow lumper too Taylorman, thought so.

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Post by Taylorman on Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:30 pm

chris_501 wrote:Paul Tito was always my favourite Maori!
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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by Gwlad on Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:39 pm

Hansen really ought to concentrate on his own camp but I'm not sure his mouth is connected to his brain. He is beyond complacent if he thinks New Zealand playing the Samoan dregs i.e. those not channelled into the NZ system is of any value a week before the test. He'll be quietly - if that's possible - very happy that Farrell is injured though I expect Farrell will be fine for next weekend. Rather amusing he is chuntering on about the need for Gabs to bring in more players to manage the ridiculous schedule set no doubt by the NZRFU...just flapping those big cheeks of his constantly, I do love how generally Kiwi's pretend to be so Rispictful but in truth are largely coarse and embarrassingly arrogant, while hiding behind the culturally appropriated Haka which has now become an interminable bore to be endured.

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Post by aucklandlaurie on Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:49 pm

Gwlad wrote:Hansen really ought to concentrate on his own camp but I'm not sure his mouth is connected to his brain. He is beyond complacent if he thinks New Zealand playing the Samoan dregs i.e. those not channelled into the NZ system is of any value a week before the test. He'll be quietly - if that's possible - very happy that Farrell is injured though I expect Farrell will be fine for next weekend. Rather amusing he is chuntering on about the need for Gabs to bring in more players to manage the ridiculous schedule set no doubt by the NZRFU...just flapping those big cheeks of his constantly, I do love how generally Kiwi's pretend to be so Rispictful but in truth are largely coarse and embarrassingly arrogant, while hiding behind the culturally appropriated Haka which has now become an interminable bore to be endured.

 Its going to be ok gwlad, in a couple of months time and a bit of medication you will be right as rain, before you know it, it will be November and the All Blacks will be in Wales..

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Post by Gwlad on Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:55 pm

Hope the cooler weather means Jabba Hansen will stop sweating.

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Post by Taylorman on Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:01 am

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Gwlad wrote:Hansen really ought to concentrate on his own camp but I'm not sure his mouth is connected to his brain. He is beyond complacent if he thinks New Zealand playing the Samoan dregs i.e. those not channelled into the NZ system is of any value a week before the test. He'll be quietly - if that's possible - very happy that Farrell is injured though I expect Farrell will be fine for next weekend. Rather amusing he is chuntering on about the need for Gabs to bring in more players to manage the ridiculous schedule set no doubt by the NZRFU...just flapping those big cheeks of his constantly, I do love how generally Kiwi's pretend to be so Rispictful but in truth are largely coarse and embarrassingly arrogant, while hiding behind the culturally appropriated Haka which has now become an interminable bore to be endured.

 Its going to be ok gwlad, in a couple of months time and a bit of medication you will be right as rain, before you know it, it will be November and the All Blacks will be in Wales..

Those Samoan dregs you speak of Gwlad have all been ruined by their NH experiences, brought in to prop up the fragile club scene and then stripped of their natural abilities by being forced to play that tug it up the middle game.

Last night they looked the shell of what they used to be, only Tim Nainai Williams, who still plays for the Super based Chiefs, the only one to provide real spark in easily stepping SBW.

At least when they were in the NZ scene they were very good players. Now look at them.

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Post by Gwlad on Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:06 am

Taylorman wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Gwlad wrote:Hansen really ought to concentrate on his own camp but I'm not sure his mouth is connected to his brain. He is beyond complacent if he thinks New Zealand playing the Samoan dregs i.e. those not channelled into the NZ system is of any value a week before the test. He'll be quietly - if that's possible - very happy that Farrell is injured though I expect Farrell will be fine for next weekend. Rather amusing he is chuntering on about the need for Gabs to bring in more players to manage the ridiculous schedule set no doubt by the NZRFU...just flapping those big cheeks of his constantly, I do love how generally Kiwi's pretend to be so Rispictful but in truth are largely coarse and embarrassingly arrogant, while hiding behind the culturally appropriated Haka which has now become an interminable bore to be endured.

 Its going to be ok gwlad, in a couple of months time and a bit of medication you will be right as rain, before you know it, it will be November and the All Blacks will be in Wales..

Those Samoan dregs you speak of Gwlad have all been ruined by their NH experiences, brought in to prop up the fragile club scene and then stripped of their natural abilities by being forced to play that tug it up the middle game.

Last night they looked the shell of what they used to be, only Tim Nainai Williams, who still plays for the Super based Chiefs, the only one to provide real spark in easily stepping SBW.

At least when they were in the NZ scene they were very good players. Now look at them.

No fatties like Hansen though, can't your fitness guys get him off the pie for 5 minutes

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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by ebop on Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:28 am

Gwlad will give himself an ulcer before long. All that negativity can't be good for ones own state.
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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by aucklandlaurie on Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:32 am

Gwlad wrote:
Taylorman wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Gwlad wrote:Hansen really ought to concentrate on his own camp but I'm not sure his mouth is connected to his brain. He is beyond complacent if he thinks New Zealand playing the Samoan dregs i.e. those not channelled into the NZ system is of any value a week before the test. He'll be quietly - if that's possible - very happy that Farrell is injured though I expect Farrell will be fine for next weekend. Rather amusing he is chuntering on about the need for Gabs to bring in more players to manage the ridiculous schedule set no doubt by the NZRFU...just flapping those big cheeks of his constantly, I do love how generally Kiwi's pretend to be so Rispictful but in truth are largely coarse and embarrassingly arrogant, while hiding behind the culturally appropriated Haka which has now become an interminable bore to be endured.

 Its going to be ok gwlad, in a couple of months time and a bit of medication you will be right as rain, before you know it, it will be November and the All Blacks will be in Wales..

Those Samoan dregs you speak of Gwlad have all been ruined by their NH experiences, brought in to prop up the fragile club scene and then stripped of their natural abilities by being forced to play that tug it up the middle game.

Last night they looked the shell of what they used to be, only Tim Nainai Williams, who still plays for the Super based Chiefs, the only one to provide real spark in easily stepping SBW.

At least when they were in the NZ scene they were very good players. Now look at them.

No fatties like Hansen though, can't your fitness guys get him off the pie for 5 minutes

 Dont worry about Shag, he's dining out on his success as World Champion Rugby coach.

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Post by Gwlad on Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:50 am

I pity his poor wife though, bet she dreams about Wales every night.

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Post by aucklandlaurie on Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:56 am

Gwlad wrote:I pity his poor wife though, bet she dreams about Wales every night.

 She does, nightmares, says they were the worst two years of her life.

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Post by ebop on Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:56 am

The world record for the largest haka was broken today in Rotorua. I heard the organiser on the radio say that about 10% of participants were Lions fans (about 750). Well done to those Lions fans for contributing to something special.
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Post by ebop on Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:20 am

ebop wrote:Probably pick some more Welshmen because they're in town. Wales played Tonga in Auckland tonight. Chuck em in bro.
As predicted by All Blacks coach Steve Hansen last week, the Lions have called for reinforcements with Wales' Cory Hill, Kristian Dacey, Gareth Davies and Tomas Francis joining the side

http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/93794916/lions-tour-warren-gatland-calls-in-four-welsh-players
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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by Recwatcher16 on Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:02 am

The suspicion four years ago that Garland used the Lions to further the development of Welsh players over more established test players, continues.

A schedule that requires 40 plus players becomes a farce just as it did twelve years ago. Hopefully this will be the last time the Nzru get to financially fleece the Lions concept. The players are approaching an eleven month season. The battered players or what's left of them are going to have to miss the start of the new club season - not acceptable.

I have lost interest watching the Lions - interestingly Sky got 600k viewers for the last Lions game but England 3rds/4ths on the Beeb, against Argentina got 1.8M. That to me suggests the Lions days in the professional era are numbered unless the format changes significantly, next time in SA.

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Post by king_carlos on Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:18 am

The two Scots to be called up on Sunday are rumoured to be Finn Russell (hallelujah) and ... Allan Dell.

That would be Scotland's third choice loose head in Dell and Wales' 4th choice lock in Cory Hill becoming Lions.

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Post by Poorfour on Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:50 am

I know it's only to be midweek players, but this really grates on me. It cheapens the whole concept of the shirt that players will get a Lions number not because they were the most worthy by because they were the most convenient.

I didn't think I'd ever say this, but I really feel for Dylan Hartley if he's overlooked in favour of Kristian Dacey.

Well done to Finn Russell, though.

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Post by LordDowlais on Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:52 am

A Merthyr boy in the Lions. Yahoo

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:56 am

Alan Dell?!!! A lion?!!! You can't be serious!
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Post by BigGee on Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:59 am

Gatland is really not making it easy for us is he?

Perhaps he should watch the Scot v Aus game and see how well Johnny Gray is playing!

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:02 am

Alan Dell (if true), Corey Hill and Kristian Dacey is absolutely spunking all over the Lions shirt. It's not about who is closest but who is the best. None of those are the best. Alan Dell isn't even the best loose head in Edinburgh never mind the best loose head available for the Lions!
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Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:15 am

With Moriarty out of the tour I wonder if he will go for Barclay or the Mish...
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Post by Griff on Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:32 am

As I posted on th e other thread, Gatland hang you head in shame. You kn*b head! Dacey and Hill Lions?! Tomos Francis??? F**ks sake. I rate Gareth Davies but still think someone like Care would be better. Makes a mockery of the whole thing.

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Post by Griff on Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:32 am

P.s. I think I'll have to leave these boards now. The fallout will be unbearable. Sad

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Post by Gwlad on Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:36 am

Some Scotchman needs to kick Ryan Wilson in the sporran.

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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by BigTrevsbigmac on Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:37 am

Perhaps Gats will eye up some Welsh Lions supporters in the crowd for the next batch. After all they will be 'closer'

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Post by Gwlad on Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:45 am

Griff wrote:P.s. I think I'll have to leave these boards now. The fallout will be unbearable. Sad

As I said earlier

I imagine the founder of this forum backing into his living room, turning to his wife/dog and saying

'We're going to need a bigger forum'

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:47 am

I think he's lost the plot with those additions.

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Re: Maori All Blacks v British & Irish Lions, 17 June

Post by ebop on Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:59 am

Time to ring in some more Scots after their showing against Australia. 1 minute to go.
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Post by ebop on Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:01 am

Boom!! Well done Scotland
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Post by RDW_Scotland on Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:16 am

Gatland admitting geography played a big part Rolling Eyes

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