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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:09 pm

First topic message reminder :

The fixtures have been released, players have been signed and summer is already a bit boring, so here's the Premier League 2017/18 season thread.

Opening fixtures:

Arsenal v Leicester City
Brighton & Hove Albion v Manchester City
Chelsea v Burnley
Crystal Palace v Huddersfield Town
Everton v Stoke City
Manchester United v West Ham United
Newcastle United v Tottenham Hotspur
Southampton v Swansea City
Watford v Liverpool
West Bromwich Albion v Bournemouth

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Post by Ent on Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:19 pm

Teams are terrified of being relegated and played 4 lost 4 scored 0 doesn't make for good reading.

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Post by GSC on Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:29 pm

I hope Mane gets a longer ban for frivolous appeal, that would be hilarious
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Post by Ent on Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:12 am

GSC wrote:I hope Mane gets a longer ban for frivolous appeal, that would be hilarious

He should, wasting everyone's time.

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Post by Guest on Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:30 pm

Decent game, this. Some neat football on display.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:30 pm

Brighton going with the not marking Defoe tactic there

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Post by GSC on Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:47 pm

Got to be able to close these games out, Brighton will be disappointed if they don't take a point from this.
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Post by Ent on Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:30 pm

Palace have had 4 managers in 9 months and have just hired a 70 year old.

They need to be careful they are slowly creeping towards the championship.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:36 pm

Woyyyyy

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Post by Duty281 on Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:38 pm

Alert: Roy Hodgson not the messiah. Sky hype machine crashing.

Don't freeze again, Roy!

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Post by Duty281 on Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:26 pm

With the games in front of them, 8 losses out of 8 and no goals scored is a viable prospect for Palace.

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Post by GSC on Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:31 pm

Crazy thought, maybe the manager you gave 4 games wasn't the problem.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:50 pm

They've played ok the last two games but doesn't mean anything now. Roy has almost gotta spend the next few weeks as a training process and hope they sneak points

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Post by Just John on Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:26 pm

Lascelles!!!!!!!!!!

Newcastle 2-1 Stoke - Three wins on the bounce. Sitting in the CL positions, back where Rafa belongs Yahoo

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Post by Guest on Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:20 pm

Not a bad set of fixtures coming up for Newcastle too. Good luck to ya, John OK

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Post by LivinginItaly on Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:01 pm

Am i the only Liverpool fan on here who has had enough of Klopp? I am all for giving people time, but it is unforgivable that our defensive problems still haven't been addressed. I don't care about how many attacking options we have if we can't keep a clean sheet.

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Post by Ent on Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:29 pm

GSC wrote:Crazy thought, maybe the manager you gave 4 games wasn't the problem.

Palaces players weren't trying. Was an easy game for Southampton, like a training session. Lots of time on the all under no pressure

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Post by Atila on Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:32 pm

Question for you guys. I was watching the Spurs Swansea game and the commentator said that the Spurs players still have to get used to the size of the pitch at Wembley.

Why aren't all pitches the same size?

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Post by Duty281 on Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:35 pm

LivinginItaly wrote:Am i the only Liverpool fan on here who has had enough of Klopp? I am all for giving people time, but it is unforgivable that our defensive problems still haven't been addressed. I don't care about how many attacking options we have if we can't keep a clean sheet.

Overrated manager. The media fall in love with his style, and lose focus of what really matters: results.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:30 pm

Atila wrote:Question for you guys. I was watching the Spurs Swansea game and the commentator said that the Spurs players still have to get used to the size of the pitch at Wembley.

Why aren't all pitches the same size?

There's a choice for teams between certain widths and lengths. West Ham always had special dispensation to be a little smaller when we were at Upton Park due to the stands and build of the stadium: Spurs could have had similar. They also had no choice over the dimensions, Wembley is not theirs.

It can also be where the stands are; our players have said TA affected them as they were use to square shape and a natural quick look and knowing where they were on the pitch automatically.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:34 pm

Like Jamie Carragher said: when things go wrong for defensive managers, we never talk about them changing their style, yet attacking managers like Klopp get told to tighten things up.

Klopp could do more on defence, but his attacking management has been exceptional. He got them top four, an achievement without doubt, and is only two years in.

I find it all a bit sad. Football is entertainment, and Klopp has had success, by position and by style, in the Premier League. People don't know what they're doing if they're criticising Klopp to point of Liverpool changing manager

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Post by Guest on Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:57 pm

"it's Frank De Boer's fault for going to Crystal Palace and trying to change their style of football..."

Another Phil Neville gem.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:07 pm

FreekShow wrote:"it's Frank De Boer's fault for going to Crystal Palace and trying to change their style of football..."

Another Phil Neville gem.

How dare he

The arrogance of some managers eh Freek
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Post by GSC on Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:39 pm

You can see why Palace brought him in as the natural choice to replicate Big Sams methods.
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Post by Atila on Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:52 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Atila wrote:Question for you guys. I was watching the Spurs Swansea game and the commentator said that the Spurs players still have to get used to the size of the pitch at Wembley.

Why aren't all pitches the same size?

There's a choice for teams between certain widths and lengths. West Ham always had special dispensation to be a little smaller when we were at Upton Park due to the stands and build of the stadium: Spurs could have had similar. They also had no choice over the dimensions, Wembley is not theirs.

It can also be where the stands are; our players have said TA affected them as they were use to square shape and a natural quick look and knowing where they were on the pitch automatically.
Thanks. I never considered that the size of the grounds might have had something to do with it. Always thought that at least the pitches were the same.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:43 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
FreekShow wrote:"it's Frank De Boer's fault for going to Crystal Palace and trying to change their style of football..."

Another Phil Neville gem.

How dare he

The arrogance of some managers eh Freek

I'm going to support him a little bit here and say he's not wrong. It's Palace's fault for hiring a man who would do that, but de Boer can't be free of criticism just cos "that's who he is." That's like not criticising Boris Johnson for saying offensive and crude things because "that's who he is."

You have to take the blame if what you do doesn't work.

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Post by LionsV2 on Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:17 pm

It's a process and De Boer tried changing too much too quickly.

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Post by Ent on Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:35 pm

Lukaku just misses far too many routine chances.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:39 pm

Ref not giving a pen cos Lingard decided to try shooting as he stumbled. This is why people throw themselves around...

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Post by LionsV2 on Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:42 pm

That had been coming all game, so many times Everton gave the ball away in the defensive third.

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Post by LionsV2 on Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:50 pm

Devastating final five minutes for the third time this season; Everton their own worst enemy today.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:51 pm

Indeed, HH, they are animals late on.

Everton in the bottom three, now conceded as many as Palace and only scored 2.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:54 am

Manchester United got an abundance of talent in their squad. Martial and Herrera start for any other side. That's not factoring in long-term absentees Zlatan, Rojo and Shaw.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:54 am

They're ruthless at times. They're the steel and City are the sparkle. I'd guess the title race depends on how much each side can rely on those strengths to get them through

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Post by gazzyD on Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:41 pm

In the last three years United had scored 4 goals in a Premier League fixture on 3 occasions. They've equalled that stat in the opening 5 games this season.

Everton were really poor yesterday because we didn't actually play that well ourselves

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:51 pm

Palace laughing

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Post by wisden on Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:57 pm

Nick picard

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Post by GSC on Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:43 pm

Rios taking up boxing apparently
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Post by Duty281 on Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:39 pm

GSC wrote:Rios taking up boxing apparently

If Flintoff can do it...

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Post by compelling and rich on Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:39 am

i read this last night and didnt have a clue who you were talking about. i was reading it as the south american sounding name rios, not rio's picard

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Post by LionsV2 on Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:50 am

I don't think he's quite come to terms with things yet, he seems to need to keep himself occupied at all times, hopefully it doesn't end badly.

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Post by Just John on Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:10 pm

Basically a gym rat nowadays, so not surprised. Pretty stupid idea imo. Unnecessary risk, and always the risk he could receive life-threatening injuries, so to put that upon his children, who have already lost their mother, seems irresponsible & selfish.

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Post by Beer on Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:47 pm

He's not stepping in the ring with Anthony Joshua, is he!? He's obviously going to face someone at a similar weight and level to him. Bit over the top to say he's risking his life, by that logic we should ban boxing.

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Post by Just John on Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:09 pm

WHU 2-3 Spurs - Kane (2), Eriksen

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:12 pm

Too many unforced errors against an efficient if not brilliant Spurs side. Ref was horrible

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Post by Just John on Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:42 pm

October 2016 - Oumar Niasse stripped of his squad no, locker and made to train with the u23's.

September 2017 - Bailing Koeman's arse out Laugh

Burnley 0-0 Huddersfield
Man City 5-0 Palace (Sane, Sterling X2, Aguero, Delph)
Everton 2-1 B'mouth
Southampton 0-1 Man U (Lukaku)
Stoke 0-4 Chelsea (Morata hat-trick)
Swansea 1-2 Watford (Three home defeats in a row for Clement)

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:58 pm

Why does Harry Maguire think he's the second coming of Beckenbauer?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:02 pm

Liverpool get away with one - Vardy with an awful penalty and Mignolet should be off
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Post by NickisBHAFC on Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:38 pm

What a win Yahoo

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:09 pm

Bobby Madley bottled that - definite pen
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:26 pm

Divers prosper. You gotta learn to simulate cos if you don't, refs punish honesty

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