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Newcastle Falcons - 2017 - 2018

Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 06 Jul 2017, 8:33 am

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Manager: Dean Richards
Head Coach: Dave Walder
Forwards Coach: Micky Ward
Defence Coach: John Wells
Attack Coach: Dave Walder
Lineout Coach: Scott Macleod
Skills Coach: Mark Laycock

Current Squad (SA= Senior Academy - Trains with the First team):
Forwards
Props:
TH - Jon Welsh, Scott Wilson, Davy Wilson, Logo Mulipola
LH - Sami Mavinga, Sam Lockwood, Adam Brocklebank, Trevor Davison

Hookers: Ben Sowrey, Kyle Cooper, Santiago Socino, George McGuigan, Jamie Blamire

Second Rows: Callum Green, Will Witty, Sean Robinson , Nick Civetta, Glen Youngs, Tevita Cavubati, Andrew Davidson,
Will Montgomery (SA)

Back Row: Will Welch, Mark Wilson, Ryan Burrows, Gary Graham, Calum Chick,  Simon Uzokwe, Guy Graham, Connor Collett
Tom Marshall (SA)

Backs
SH's: Sonatane Tukulua, Micky Young, Sam Stuart
Ruaridh Dawson (SA), Callum Pascoe (SA), Cameron Nordi Kelemeti (SA)

Fh's: Joel Hodgson, Toby Flood, Brett Connon
Joel Matavesi (SA)

Centres: Chris Harris, Dom Waldouck, Maxine Mermoz, Josh Matavesi, Tom Penny, Charlie Wilson, Johnny Williams

Wing: Sinoti Sinoti, Zac Kibirige, Veriniki Goneva, Adam Radwan, Tom Arscott
Ben Stevenson (SA)

FB's: Alex Tait, Simon Hammersley, Cameron Cowell
Josh Hodge (SA)


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Post by GeordieFalcon on Fri 20 Apr 2018, 9:40 pm

Ah well we're out of the Euros in the Semi's...but fair play Gloucester, much the better side. And far more effective in the collisions.


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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sat 21 Apr 2018, 11:08 am

George Mcguigan confirmed back...I hope he's not another Brookes!!

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Sat 21 Apr 2018, 12:23 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:George Mcguigan confirmed back...I hope he's not another Brookes!!

Hasn't had a chance under MOC. Similar with Thacker who was our best hooker early doors but forced out. MOC only wants big hookers hence the signing of TPN.

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Post by Welly on Sat 21 Apr 2018, 12:37 pm

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GeordieFalcon wrote:George Mcguigan confirmed back...I hope he's not another Brookes!!

Hasn't had a chance under MOC. Similar with Thacker who was our best hooker early doors but forced out. MOC only wants big hookers hence the signing of TPN.

McGugian is a big hooker though.

He's been injured for a good chunk of season and when he has played whilst been good never managed to secure a 23 consistently spot even under cockers and Mauger time.

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Sat 21 Apr 2018, 12:45 pm

McGuigan is a similar size to Tom Youngs. TPN is a much bigger unit. Still unconvinced in MOC's approach. Far too focused on size as opposed to physicality.

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Post by Welly on Sat 21 Apr 2018, 12:50 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:McGuigan is a similar size to Tom Youngs. TPN is a much bigger unit. Still unconvinced in MOC's approach. Far too focused on size as opposed to physicality.

No he isn't McGugian is quite a bit taller than Youngs.

Would also say TPN is the best hooker at the club by some distance.

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Sat 21 Apr 2018, 1:34 pm

They're both 16 and a bit stone. McGuigan is taller but Youngs is shorter and broader.

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Post by Welly on Sat 21 Apr 2018, 1:39 pm

I would be amazed if McGuigan is still only 16 and a bit.

Still not small though.

Also how is MOC approach with hooker far too focused on size and not physicality? Youngs and TPN are the most physical of our hookers anyway?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 21 Apr 2018, 1:43 pm

Happy to welcome McGuigan back. I'm surprised it never worked out for him at Tigers as he was playing some great stuff when he left. He fits our style and the pitch, I guess this was an easy one.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 21 Apr 2018, 1:47 pm

McGuigan isn't tall, perhaps 5'9 or 5'10. I'd say he was pretty similar to Youngs actually.

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Post by Driver on Mon 23 Apr 2018, 3:35 pm

We've got a good trio of hookers for next season.

Kyle Cooper, Socino and McGuigan
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Post by GeordieFalcon on Mon 23 Apr 2018, 4:03 pm

Blamire is the young England u20 hooker aswelll...

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Mon 23 Apr 2018, 4:06 pm

Also has Lawson actually retired...or is he just reigning it in a bit like Hogg?

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Mon 23 Apr 2018, 4:10 pm

Welly wrote: I would be amazed if McGuigan is still only 16 and a bit.

Still not small though.

Also how is MOC approach with hooker far too focused on size and not physicality? Youngs and TPN are the most physical of our hookers anyway?

I was thinking size has been a general theme in selection. We've seen three 8s in the back row often this season with very mixed results. When teams are prepared for the tactic we've suffered. The iffy lineout work from our hookers certainly hasn't seen a change and a chance for Thacker. MOC needs to wake up and see that being big and trying to bludgeon your way through is somewhat of an outmoded tactic. Need more dynamism in the pack. At the minute you look at the league leaders and in the Chiefs pack their hooker is better at the breakdown than the entire pack we fielded against Saints. We have to be smarter.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Fri 27 Apr 2018, 10:17 pm

Wow...just wow.

Passion and fight from the boys tonight....how many times this season have we just not been beaten until the last whistle.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sun 29 Apr 2018, 1:13 am

Falcons in the playoffs....

The fairy tale continues.....

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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 8:51 am

Well done to all Falcons - whether fans, players or management. Good luck in the semi (would you prefer to travel to Exeter or Barnet?)

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 2:05 pm

Cheers Lt, been a crazy old season....nothing to lose in the semi's now. Just go out enjoy it and give it their best shot.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Tue 01 May 2018, 4:08 pm

Bobby Vickers confirms he is retiring at the end of the season.

He might not have been the most destructive LH in the world, but he was great around the park...and boy we'd have been lost without him. Never injured...played and played.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 01 May 2018, 4:31 pm

Great servant to the club but he's made the right choice. Hopefully we can get a few more decent props in, it would be good to have a steady scrum going into the Champions cup.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 01 May 2018, 7:11 pm

Deano signs on for another 3 years!

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Tue 01 May 2018, 11:03 pm

Yup another 3 years. Never in doubt.

Max Davies the academy England age grade lock is moving to Wales apparently as he's Welsh qualified. Shame.


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Post by formerly known as Sam on Wed 02 May 2018, 7:07 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:Yup another 3 years. Never in doubt.

Max Davies the academy England age grade lock is moving to Wales apparently he's Welsh qualified. Shame.

Won't be the last. Wales and Scotland keep close tabs on the qualification of England age grade players.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Wed 02 May 2018, 8:56 am

Agree Sam, he's a prospect aswell...

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Wed 02 May 2018, 12:30 pm

Aly Hogg announces his retirement. Genuine Classy no 8!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 02 May 2018, 2:33 pm

Another one gone....great player. Got to be some reinforcements coming in soon.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Wed 02 May 2018, 3:08 pm

Yeah...theres a few out...and I suspect Lawson maybe aswell.

Only 3 in so far...must be a few announcements due soon.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sun 06 May 2018, 9:48 am

So it was confirmed that Olmstead is away and Latu and Lawson are also gone/ retiring.

We need some quality coming in

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Post by LondonTiger on Sun 06 May 2018, 12:33 pm

Yesterday's side looked some way from the strongest. I know there are some injuries, but was Drank also resting some?

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sun 06 May 2018, 12:44 pm

Yeah we were about 10 players short of the strongest starting side LT. Some injuries but mostly rested. And a few sentimental last game starts for Vickers, Lawson and Hogg.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Mon 07 May 2018, 8:34 pm

I think we need to announce a few signings....

Players in Summer 2018:
Guy Graham - Hawick
Tom Arscott - France
Logi Mulipola - Tigers
George McGuigan - Tigers

Players out Summer 2018:
Juan Pablo Socino - Leaving For Edinburgh in the Summer
Bobby Vickers - Retiring
Craig Willis - Leaving for Ealing in the Summer
Aly Hogg - Retiring
Nili Latu - Retiring
Scott Lawson - Retiring
Evan Olmstead - Going to NZ, not offered a new contract.
Max Davies - Moving to Wales
Jake Ilnicki - Yorkshire

Or is Dean promoting some of the academy lads Uzokwe, Radwan, Blamire etc etc to play more games.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 08 May 2018, 4:52 am

So if we look at just maintaining the current squad:

? - Arscott
Juan Pablo Socino - ?
Bobby Vickers - Logo Mulipola
Craig Willis - ?
Ally Hogg - ?
Nili Latu - ?
Scott Lawson - McGuigan
Evan Olmstead - ?
Jake Ilnicki - ?

Doesn't make good reading going into the Champions Cup.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Tue 08 May 2018, 8:05 pm

Well its interesting Sgt...what about..

(Agulla) replaced by Arscott - That one makes sense
Juan Pablo Socino - Replaced by Joel Matavesi? The younger one.
Bobby Vickers - Logo Mulipola - yeah fair call
Craig Willis - ?? Brett Connon will be the 3rd choice 10. Josh Matavesi can cover 10 also.
Ally Hogg - Simon Uzokwe promoted?
Nili Latu - Calum Chick senior starter.
Scott Lawson - McGuigan
Evan Olmstead - Cavubati back playing?
Jake Ilnicki - ??

Plus what about players like Mermoz, Civetta etc...surely they'll be off.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 09 May 2018, 4:54 am

Well that's a serious downgrade on quality and experience. If they're expecting the young lads to fill the boots of all these players (and I don't think they are), I could see us struggling on all fronts next season.


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Post by LondonTiger on Wed 09 May 2018, 10:00 am

It will be interesting to see how Deano approaches the Champions Cup, and whether as this year he does not include some of the senior players in that squad.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 09 May 2018, 10:05 am

I think we'll go pretty much all out at it LT.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Wed 09 May 2018, 4:01 pm

Agree it would be a MASSIVE downgrade on experience.

But im with you...I think theres quite a few announcements to be made...

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Fri 11 May 2018, 10:35 am

Johnny Williams confirmed..great signing.

Suspect Mermoz will be on his way now.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Wed 16 May 2018, 11:14 pm

Well it just gets better

Goneva - player of the season
Deano - Coach of the season
Sinoti - try of the season

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sun 20 May 2018, 8:16 am

Well wonderful season is over. The lads have done brilliant.

Connor Collett is the new signing announced today.  Flanker from North Harbour. But he's English. Went there a few years back.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Sun 20 May 2018, 3:27 pm

Squad updated as of today with the signings and departures. Looks odd without a few long terms names.

We need to sort the propping stables out!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 20 May 2018, 4:32 pm

God do we, especially after yesterdays performance, we were dismantled all game.

Davidson has mostly turned out at TH Geordie, not sure if that's where they see him mainly operating at now.

Good to see Dave Wilson back although he got a good beasting, could he be an option? I'm unconvinced with Scotty Wilson, I'm not sure if he'll ever be an AP prop. He's in terrible shape and looks out on his feet after 5mins, plus he's constantly injured!

I would also think Mulipola would be used at LH?? We seem stronger at TH.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Mon 21 May 2018, 12:06 am

You've literally summed up our problem.  

Who is playing in what position and will they even be fit.

E.g. Trevor Davison is a LH.  But he's had to cover th lots this season.

Scotty is a shadow of the lad that was coming through.
Injuries gave ruined him

Davy Wilson is so past it it's unreal and never fit to play

Mavinga needs to head back to France

Leaves us with Welsh, Mulipola and Lockwood fighting for first choice

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