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Post by sirfredperry on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 9:25 am

It's that day when everyone left in the singles competitions plays. I expect the Big Four in the men's to all win. As for the women, it's stick-a-pin-in time.
   How about Coco as a possible women's champion? There's some intriguing clashes in the ladies' draw today. Wonder if anyone could safely predict the outcome in all eight matches? Gonna try, though - and given the unpredictability of the women's tour at the moment, this could be wildly out.
   Konta to beat Garcia
   Mug to bt Kerber
   Aza to bt Halep (could be a noisy match)
   Rad to bt Kuznetsova
   Coco to bt Caroline W
   Svitolina to bt Ostapenko
   Rybarikova to bt Martic (really could go either way)
   Venus to bt Konjuh

  Could end up getting only one of these right - the Venus match.

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Post by Guest on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 10:25 am

Here is the Men's schedule.  I would say the Murray v Paire match will be important in assessing Murray's hip issue.   Some consider the Dimitrov v Federer match could be a possible upset.  There is also Raonic v A. Zverev as well as Thiem vs Berdych which could be highly competitive

Centre Court  
Murray (1)  vs Paire
Dimitrov (13)  vs Federer (3)
     
No.1 Court
Nadal (4)   vs Muller (16)
Mannarino   vs Djokovic (2)

No.2 Court
Raonic (6)  vs  Zverev (10)

No.3 Court
Thiem (8)   vs Berdych (11)

Court 12
Bautista Agut (18)  vs Cilic (7)

Court 18
Querrey (24)  vs Anderson

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Post by sirfredperry on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 10:37 am

At the risk of further ridicule I will attempt a forecast of the men's matches.
   Winners : The Big Four plus Zverev, Berdych, Cilic and Anderson. Going for Berdych as he has more grass court pedigree than Thiem. Zverev beating Raonic is just a hunch. Could well go the other way.

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Post by Guest on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 10:54 am

sirfredperry wrote:At the risk of further ridicule I will attempt a forecast of the men's matches.
   Winners : The Big Four plus Zverev, Berdych, Cilic and Anderson. Going for Berdych as he has more grass court pedigree than Thiem. Zverev beating Raonic is just a hunch. Could well go the other way.
I quite fancy Thiem's chances against Berdych. I think Raonic may have too much firepower and experience for Zverev. I have no clue regarding the Querrey v Anderson match. Everything else I can agree with. Murray should have too much court craft for Paire even if he is a bit under par.

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Post by Guest82 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 11:01 am

Mens winners - Murray, Djokovic, Federer, Nadal, Zverev, Thiem, Cilic, Anderson

The big four plus Cilic seem quite likely. All of the other matches are pretty close to 50/50 with the bookies.

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Re: Wimbledon - Day 7 (Monday)

Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 11:04 am

Dimitriv has a unique chance today. 

He has th chance to throw away the baby fed tag forever, and signal a changing of the guard

He'll need to play like he did at the AO. that said I don't think he will, unless this cold has done something to roger

From my standpoint, Berdych winning would massively boost novels chances of making the semi

Cilic going out today would make rafa  massive favourite for the final too

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Post by dummy_half on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 11:25 am

On the men's side, hard to look beyond the big 4 in their matches.

Raonic v Zverev will be a big test for the younger man - can he get enough of Milos's serves back to make it competitive? Milos in 4 for me

Thiem v Berdych is good form v better grass pedigree - Berdy to come through.

Bustin a Gut v Cilic - given his recent grass court form, you'd have to fancy Cilic here.

Querry v Anderson - 7-6 6-7 7-6 6-7 on to eternity (see Karlovic v Bedene). Will come down to the odd point and a bit of luck.

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Post by Born Slippy on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 11:42 am

Murray in 4 - Paire looks in ominous form and Murray looks on borrowed time in this tournament but I think Andy will scrap through this one.

Fed in 3 - Lots of pretty rallies but, ultimately, Dimitrov is no threat to Fed.

Nadal in 3 - I suspect Muller's serve will keep it close initially but Rafa will expose his poor movement and win at a canter.

Djokovic in 3 - Mannarino is tricky but Novak will be too consistent.

Zverev in 5 - Raonic's serve will keep him in this but the rest of his game looks woefully out of sorts. If Zverev keeps his head, he should win.

Thiem in 4 - Thiem looks in awesome form and should beat Berdych, although I suspect he might have a slight wobble.

Cilic in 3 - can't see RBA making an impact on his serve.

Anderson in 4 - won't be watching this match.

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Post by barrystar on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 1:33 pm

I am too busy today to see or follow any of it - but second Monday on Wimbledon is one of my two favourite tennis days of the year, the other is Men's QF day at Wimbledon, the Wednesday.

The grounds are still full, the atmosphere buzzing, the matches are beginning to pit quality vs. quality for the show courts and the outside courts, but there's none of that slightly drier feel that SF and F can generate - when there's so much at stake that you have much less faith in the underdog not to be overwhelmed.

Anyone who can watch or go, Enjoy!
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Post by sirfredperry on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 2:19 pm

So far three of my women's predictions are right and two wrong. Ostapenko needed numerous MPs to win in two. She seems not worry about how many UEs she commits as long as she hits plenty of winners.
   Kerber v Mug seemed more like a semi than a fourth round. Kerber played a lot better than of late, but Mug was more attacking and is now a big threat.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 2:34 pm

Garcia's father being allowed to get away with some pretty blatant coaching against Konta. This one looks like it's going the distance.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 3:27 pm

Konta does it! Really good match, but Garcia cracks at the crucial moment, netting an easy FH on matchpoint, and Konta is through 7-6 4-6 6-4.

Paire playing a very "Paire" tie-break here, in fact a very "Paire" match. A break up twice, some ridiculous shot-making, but also some dreadful stuff. Murray started slowly but seems to be working his way into it. Takes the TB 7-1.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 4:57 pm

Murray gets it done in straight, but not straightforward, sets. Played pretty well I thought, certainly hitting the ball much better than against Fognini, but fitness still a worry for me, in particular had no real pop on his serve.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 5:00 pm

Meanwhile Nadal is two sets down to Muller!!

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Re: Wimbledon - Day 7 (Monday)

Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 5:01 pm

Not done yet though 
Could be a classic if millers serve gets tight

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Re: Wimbledon - Day 7 (Monday)

Post by CaledonianCraig on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 5:08 pm

Murray got the job done in straights but still mot convinced he is playing near the level he will need against the likes of the big three. Movememt not the best I have seen from him and a lot of his groundstrokes lacking real pop. Must up his level to move into contention. Still it says how good he is when at sub-par he can still reach a slam QF dropping one set. Only third player apparently to reach ten consecutive slam QF's at one slam (others being Connors and Federer).

I am still awaiting the comeback from Nadal or the capitulation from Muller. Neither coming yet as the enter the third set.


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Post by dummy_half on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 5:09 pm

Querrey through against Anderson in 5 sets - biggest surprise is that there were only two tie breaks...

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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 5:10 pm

Nadal isn't playing bad. But mullets on fire. Has the making of a humdinger

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 5:15 pm

In a blink of an eye Nadal breaks in the third set and that may just be a masdive turning point in this match.
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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 5:16 pm

Here we go.
I picked a good week to take holiday

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Post by dummy_half on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 5:29 pm

Are we running a joke thread on mis-typing of Muller's name - so far we have Miller and Mullet

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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 5:32 pm

Nadal getting into Muellers service games now

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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 6:01 pm

nadal breaks in the 4th. Thiem Berdych into a 5th

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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 6:19 pm

oh cr** I forgot federer was on and hes 2 sets up. Sounds like Dimi hasnt done very well...

Nadal Munter into a fifth

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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 6:23 pm

the Berd gets into the quarters,.
Hell be (probably) Novaks last 8 guy

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Post by sirfredperry on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:28 pm

Rafa saves two MPs in fifth. He's still alive - just.

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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:32 pm

Are they gonna put novak on centre?

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Post by Henman Bill on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:37 pm

According to the table in his wikipedia article, this is the first time Muller has been to the 4th round at Wimbledon. A win would make this his second slam quarter final, the first having come at 2008 US Open where he beat Tommy Haas, Almagro and Davydenko (R4) before losing to Federer (QF).

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Post by Henman Bill on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:39 pm

decided to take a break from work at 3-3 thinking it would be a 20-min break....

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Post by barrystar on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:40 pm

I suspect that Novak is as irritated by this match as Cilic is pleased by it.....

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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:43 pm

I mean do they really think they can start the last match at like 8:00pm and finish it?
Move it to centre with the roof

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:44 pm

temporary21 wrote:Are they gonna put novak on centre?

You would have thought that would have been the sensible move but it appears not. Compromises Novak a lot as there is no way otherwise he will finish his match tonight.
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Post by Guest on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:45 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
temporary21 wrote:Are they gonna put novak on centre?

You would have thought that would have been the sensible move but it appears not. Compromises Novak a lot as there is no way otherwise he will finish his match tonight.
Rain is forecast all day for tomorrow - so will have to be moved to centre court tomorrow.


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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:46 pm

Have they really got to put the big guys on court 1 once a tourny? Even if it massively disadvantages them like this?

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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:47 pm

Im staggered Novak isnt already playing under the roof

They ahve to finish by 11 remember

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Post by Born Slippy on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:49 pm

temporary21 wrote:Im staggered Novak isnt already playing under the roof

They ahve to finish by 11 remember

Have to agree - no way they will do it now though. Lucky for him he is only playing Mannarino.

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Post by Henman Bill on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:50 pm

Muller serving at BP called a fault on second serve. Umpire overruled and said it was in. Muller holds.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:51 pm

There is a very slim chance I suppose if the Nadal match finishes in the next few minutes and Novak steamrollers Mannerino it could finish tonight but only very slim chance.
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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:54 pm

in less than an hour?! Is that what theyre holding out for?

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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:56 pm

frak me thats brave

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Post by Henman Bill on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:57 pm

I agree with Novak on centre, especially if Nadal holds this game but even if he doesn't.

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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 7:59 pm

oh muller!! framed it

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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 8:00 pm

wow
a federer like volley

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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 8:01 pm

pls now put NOVAK ON CENTRE

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Post by Henman Bill on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 8:01 pm

Muller has been affected by nerves for at least a few games now. Credit to him for being very solid up until about 7-7 or so but since then there have been some bad forehands into the net, that wild mishit just now, letting go a lob that went in.

Great volley by Nadal there.

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Post by Henman Bill on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 8:01 pm

this could be it...12-10 to Rafa?

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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 8:02 pm

not with this serving

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Post by barrystar on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 8:06 pm

Goodness what a match this is, not just significant in terms of the match itself, and there still remains the possibility of an upset, but it is also mucking up Djoko's plans.

Now, a tricky situation for the Umpire - and he dealt with that well.
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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 8:10 pm

again he holds on

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Post by temporary21 on Mon 10 Jul 2017, 8:14 pm

STILL nothing about Djokovic

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