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Post by GeordieFalcon on Tue 11 Jul 2017, 11:36 am

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Current Squad
GK's
Martin Dubravka
Karl Darlow
Robbie Elliott

Defenders
Ciaran Clark
Javi Manquillo
Paul Dummett
Jamaal Lascelles
Fabian Schar
DeAndre Yedlin
Federico Fernandez
Florian Lejeune
Jetro Willems
Emil Krafth

Midfielders
Sean Longstaff
Matt Ritchie
Jonjo Shelvey
Isaac Hayden
Miguel Almiron
Rolando Aarons
Jacob Murphy
Ki Seung-Yueng
Henri Saivet
Christian Atsu
Matthew Longstaff

Forwards
Dwight Gayle
Yoshinori Muto
Joelinton
Allan Saint Maximin


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Post by Just John on Mon 14 Aug 2017, 2:34 pm

Yeah, not sure how Kyle Walker-Peters got rave reviews, Atsu had him beat with ease. Up until the sending off, Spurs were hopeless in all honesty & we looked pretty solid. The injuries, along with Shelvey's display, ruined our game though. Disappointed not to see Murphy or Aarons.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Mon 14 Aug 2017, 2:44 pm

Yeah I thought that....all the reviews said Walker-Peters star in the making, but Atsu repeatedly went past him with ease.

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Post by Beer on Mon 21 Aug 2017, 10:59 am

Awful performance yesterday.

I'm struggling to see what Perez is currently offering the side. He did nothing, nor did Gayle. I personally though Joselu offered far more than both managed in his short cameo, also, Murphy gave us the spark we needed, and Merino looks very assured.

I'd suggest Rafa should look at either going 4-4-2 with Gayle & Joselu up top, or 3-5-2 with Manquillo & Ritchie as wing backs.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Tue 29 Aug 2017, 12:58 pm

Better this weekend...but is that because we played better or West Ham are just that bad.

Joselu looked useful. Difficult to judge where we are on this form, need a few more games...

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Post by Beer on Tue 29 Aug 2017, 1:39 pm

We looked more assured going forward with Joselu up there. Certianly gave us something to aim at, and Merino was again superb in the middle. I hope Rafa finds a way for him and Jonjo to work together.

Mitro being Mitro again, I understand he somewhat divides the fans, but it's hard to back him when he does stupid things like that. He'll avoid a ban though.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Tue 29 Aug 2017, 1:53 pm

Yeah Merino looks a good one. Hopefully he can develop and we can keep him permanently .

We were talking about Mitro at the weekend. The only thing he can do is continue to score as he seems to be doing. I think hes got quite a few so far this season including friendlies. And that's all that matters when your a striker.

I think 3-4-5 games down the line will give us a bit more clarity on form, how good we are and our chances of staying up.

Im more concerned about Rafa staying. He's not getting the financial support I think he expected from Ashley. But I can understand Ashley also...the market has simply gone crazy now...an example being Everton after £50m for Ross Barkley...I mean come on.

However Ashley still has to spend some money!

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Post by Beer on Tue 29 Aug 2017, 2:44 pm

I'm not convinced that he hasn't received the money he was promised. We got £47m for getting promoted, we've spent just shy of £30m, and we know there is still money to spend.


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Post by GeordieFalcon on Tue 29 Aug 2017, 3:01 pm

There should be money to spend...the question is....will it be made available.

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Post by Beer on Tue 29 Aug 2017, 3:21 pm

We've been linked with plenty, and our advisors travelling around, i'd say it's been made available.

We don't have money like everyone else because of high wages and the money we got.

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Post by Just John on Tue 29 Aug 2017, 6:02 pm

Beer wrote:He'll avoid a ban though.

Charged. 3 game ban inevitable.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 4:21 pm

I don't see how he could have escaped a ban after what he did.
Daft lad.

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Post by Beer on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 4:25 pm

Just John wrote:
Beer wrote:He'll avoid a ban though.

Charged. 3 game ban inevitable.

I was surprised, from what i read, it was seen by the ref.

Completely agree, deserved ban.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 4:27 pm

And still we are not linked with a single player.....

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Post by Beer on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 4:31 pm

I thought it was the usual names?

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Post by Just John on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 6:37 pm

De Jong, Hanley already gone, and still trying to offload Colback to Wolves. Can see Ashley just reducing wage bill & seeing how things pan out until January.

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Post by Beer on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 9:18 pm

I reckon a couple of loan moves will come in.

If Gayle is on the move I reckon Perez, Origi or Remy.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 10:14 am

Just John wrote:De Jong, Hanley already gone, and still trying to offload Colback to Wolves. Can see Ashley just reducing wage bill & seeing how things pan out until January.

Its not good enough though John...simple as that. Rafa will be gone and we'll in the sh$t again.

I can see Mitro being sold aswell.

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Post by Beer on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 11:18 am

Rafa won't walk, GF. I think he needs to remember that the first season was all about survival. He knew what he was taking on.

As much as i love Rafa being at the club, he felt he had a blank chequebook at Liverpool, Napoli and Madrid, so he needs to lower his expectations for this season.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 11:26 am

Yes about survival...but he was promised a few signings and he's not got remotely what he wanted (although I think that Merino is a good bit of business as long as we can keep him)

I genuinely believe if no one comes in today...his time will be seriously limited and he'll be away.

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Post by Beer on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 11:32 am

I think the over inflated market is partly to blame. We needed so many positions, GK, LB, CB, CM, 2 x CF, a winger. In days gone by you could pick 3 maybe 4 of them up for £50m. Now? Michael Keane, Pickford going at nearly £30m each, Gylfi at £49m, Ox at £40m. These are ridiculous fees. Andre Gray for nearly £20m, he scored 10 goals in all Comps last year.

Gray for that, or Perez for £13m. I know who i'd rather.

Wages have been the issue, unfortunately we've left it late to get rid of players, but that's because of the idiotic salaries we paid people like De Jong and Colback.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 11:42 am

I completely agree with the market...it has just gone utterly insane. And I would be hesitant paying some of those ridiculous fees.

I see we're linked with the Southampton left back Target and have bid £8m for some Turkish striker from Beskitas.

And Gayle subject of £20m bids from Fulham and Leeds. Why is Gayle not being given a chance in the Prem...I thought he would score goals...

And I hope Mitro isn't off either.

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Post by Crimey on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 11:45 am

Beer wrote:Rafa won't walk, GF. I think he needs to remember that the first season was all about survival. He knew what he was taking on.

As much as i love Rafa being at the club, he felt he had a blank chequebook at Liverpool, Napoli and Madrid, so he needs to lower his expectations for this season.

Shocked That was one of the reason's he was so unhappy at Liverpool was not being able to spend much money.

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Post by Beer on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 11:50 am

Crimey wrote:
Beer wrote:Rafa won't walk, GF. I think he needs to remember that the first season was all about survival. He knew what he was taking on.

As much as i love Rafa being at the club, he felt he had a blank chequebook at Liverpool, Napoli and Madrid, so he needs to lower his expectations for this season.

Shocked That was one of the reason's he was so unhappy at Liverpool was not being able to spend much money.

Sorry, felt he should've.

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Post by Beer on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 11:53 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:I completely agree with the market...it has just gone utterly insane. And I would be hesitant paying some of those ridiculous fees.

I see we're linked with the Southampton left back Target and have bid £8m for some Turkish striker from Beskitas.

And Gayle subject of £20m bids from Fulham and Leeds. Why is Gayle not being given a chance in the Prem...I thought he would score goals...

And I hope Mitro isn't off either.

Perez is still the most likely striker to sign. Saw on Twitter some Journo saying personal terms have been agreed.

Leeds aren't in for Gayle, they signed Lasogga, remember him? And another player from Malmo today. Fulham's bid for Gayle is still on the table, so i would hope they are sorting the striker before accepting it.

Lazaar now staying.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 3:21 pm

So Krul is off to Brighton on Loan and we are signing some Brazilian goalkeeper in his please.

Lucas Perez is definitely the key target however talk is now that he is off to Deportivo in Spain.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 3:45 pm

And the bid for the Turkish striker has been rejected they want £12m not 8 that Newcastle have offered.

Ashley could well finish today with a lower wage bill than in the championship and making a profit in transfers!!! That's outrageous.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 4:14 pm

And now Gayle is staying...great treatment of a young lad who did great last season and with chances could very well score in the prem.

This club is an absolute f%$king joke!

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Post by Just John on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 7:05 pm

Matt Targett deal is OFF. Not too bothered, in all honesty. Lazaar will move to Italian side Benvento, leaving Newcastle without a fit left-back. Classic Ashley

Doubt Gayle is feeling the love either, we basically wanted Cairney in a swap deal, but Fulham rejected.

Predictable window. Inevitable, given that 3-0 win over WHU. Ashley will evaluate in January, hoping Benitez has managed us away from relegation, unlike McClaren

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 8:15 pm

Rafa wont be with us long. A few poor results and he'll be away.

What do we have to do to get rid of Mike Ashley!!!

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Post by Just John on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 8:23 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:What do we have to do to get rid of Mike Ashley!!!

He promised to sell up, when we won a cup

So he ain't leaving anytime soon Laugh

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 10:06 pm

ha ha ha thanks John....now that's a depressing thought!

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Fri 01 Sep 2017, 8:32 am

That's a bad list....and showswhere we are with Ashley in charge...

So am I right we haven't signed a single person yesterday then?

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Fri 01 Sep 2017, 8:51 am

As I said above...a few bad results and Rafa will be gone.

Until that muppet at the top is finally gone this club will go absolute nowhere and bounce between prem and championship...and once the decent managers start refusing to come...there wont be no bouncing back to the prem either.


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Post by GeordieFalcon on Fri 01 Sep 2017, 10:22 am

Squad updated as I think we stand at the moment, I haven't bothered with many of the U21 squad out on loan etc

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Fri 01 Sep 2017, 10:28 am

So John,

Whats the 1st choice team from that squad...and is it good enough to stay up..injuries and bans allowing...

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Post by Beer on Fri 01 Sep 2017, 10:34 am

I'd play 3-5-2...

Elliot

Clark Lascelles Mbemba

Ritchie (WB) Atsu (WB)

Shelvey Hayden Merino

Gayle Mitro/Joselu

You've then got Yedlin, Murphy, Manquillo, Aarons who can cover the wing back position until Dummett is fit.

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Post by Just John on Fri 01 Sep 2017, 10:48 am

Rafa is a 4-2-3-1 man. Unfortunately, Perez is a lock in. #undroppable.

---------------Elliott------------
Yedlin---Lejeune--Clark--Dummett
--------Hayden-----Merino---------
--Ritchie-------Perez--------Atsu--
----------------Joselu---------------

Subs - Darlow, Manquillo, Lascelles, Mbemba, Shelvey, Diame, Aarons, Murphy, Mitrovic, Gayle

For the time being, I think Rafa will go like this, especially following that WHU win. It's a distinctly average line-up, but one he seems to prefer. We do have some decent depth on the bench though to call upon.

Going to be a long, long, long season. I'd take 17th now.

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Post by Beer on Fri 01 Sep 2017, 11:11 am

Do we know when Lejeune is back?

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Mon 02 Oct 2017, 11:06 am

Whats your thoughts so far then?

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Post by Just John on Mon 02 Oct 2017, 1:35 pm

Delighted & happy to be sitting ninth. Thought a lot of people massively underestimated the impact Rafa would make, in comparison to what we had to endure under McClaren. We're organised, defensively solid & the spirit is great in the dressing room.

As for the side, can't complain with the defence or midfield. The final third is the glaring issue. Ayoze Perez offers absolutely nothing in the 10 role, and Joselu gives me no confidence whatsoever.

Also saw Amanda Staveley at the match yesterday, possibly negotiating a take over?

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Tue 03 Oct 2017, 11:43 am

Yeah lots of talk about her being there.

I think Perez is an issue. I agree he's not doing anything yet Rafa seems to like him. Gayle is a way better striker than Joselu.

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Post by Just John on Fri 13 Oct 2017, 9:14 am

Mikel Merino signs permanently from Dortmund. Absolute bargain.

I'd expect Dwight Gayle to be sold in January. Too injury prone

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Tue 17 Oct 2017, 12:48 pm

Yeah Merino is a cracking move. Looks an awesome player.

Well he's said he wants the club sold by December. I wonder who's actually going to end up buying it.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Wed 13 Dec 2017, 9:38 pm

Well Arsenal next....another defeat likely.

Shelvey gone again....

Why does he persist with Diame. He truly is a woeful player!

Only Yedlin looked like he wanted it tonight.

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Post by Just John on Wed 13 Dec 2017, 10:48 pm

1 point from 24? Rafa trying to do a Pulis. Club is an embarrassment from top, to bottom. Takeover & January window needed.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Fri 22 Dec 2017, 9:38 am

If the buy out doesn't happen in January...we're in big trouble as fat Ash wont spend a penny in January....

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Post by Just John on Tue 16 Jan 2018, 7:08 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:If the buy out doesn't happen in January...we're in big trouble as fat Ash wont spend a penny in January....

Surprise, Surprise. Ashley announces the takeover is off. Doubtful we sign anybody now, maybe a desperate loan.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Tue 16 Jan 2018, 10:07 pm

Bleak news indeed.

The club is still up for sale by all accounts, but its irrelevant we'll not get any players in this transfer window now that genuinely matter. Certainly not the genuine goalscorer we seriously need!

Relegation a real possibility now. If that happens..Rafa will be gone like a shot!

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Post by Just John on Thu 01 Feb 2018, 8:23 am

Threw away the win last night, following another shambolic window.

Ins
Injured Slimani
Kenedy (impressive debut, mind)
Dubravka

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Mitrovic to Fulham
Aarons to Italy
Colback to Forest
Saivet to Turkey
Woodman to Aberdeen

I thought Albert Luque and Xisco were bad, but Joselu has taken it to a completely new level. Beyond embarrassing his continued selection, something which Rafa must be made accountable for. Made worse, we’ve sent Aleksander Mitrovic to Fulham on loan. Mind-boggling.

I think it’s curtains for us, we’ve not won at home since October.

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