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Post by Henman Bill on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 3:03 am

UK start time of 1pm is 8am here in Chile, so pleased the first match is Cilic-Querrey which I'm slightly less interested in. I'll half watch it in between lie in, breakfast, shower, checking emails, finishing a few jobs etc. Then will sit down properly for Federer-Berdych.

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/index.html

Would not be surprised if both matches turned into straight set or easy 4 set wins for the favourites. I'm more looking forward to enjoying the quality of Cilic and Federer's play rather than expecting the underdogs to win, or a tight match. But you never know.

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Post by sirfredperry on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 8:55 am

Will it be Grand Slam Sam or will Rog Be Fed to the Big Berd ? Cilic and Fed favourites for the matches. Probably Querrey is more capable of an upset than Tomas. But you never know.

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Post by sirfredperry on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 2:01 pm

First set to Querrey after a tiebreak that was interrupted at 6-6 after woman taken ill in the crowd. The incident seemed to break the Cilic concentration and he made two UEs to lose the set.


Later: Still on serve in the second set but Cilic, in both the first set tiebreak and in this 2nd set, has missed his, fleeting, opportunities. Q appears the more relaxed of the two.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 2:43 pm

Hoping Berdych can take out Federer like he did in 2010

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 3:28 pm

Querrey and Cilic beating each other up here. Cilic leads two sets to one and looks favourite to win in four sets in around three hours.
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Re: Wimbledon - Day 11 (Friday)

Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 3:39 pm

Pendulum swings back to Querrey who has an early break in 4th.

Tough one to call - although Cilic has a much better pedigree on grass - and indeed overall in terms of career achievements.

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Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 4:06 pm

A long-awaited first Wimbledon Final for Cilic.

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Post by sirfredperry on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 4:23 pm

Cilic rather sneaked that fourth set but really he should have won the first set and it would have been all over in three.
   Wonder whether Querrey, 4-2 up in that fourth set, got a bit tired at the end after his five-setters earlier. Still, a very good tournament for the American who surely has never played better. All these guys like M Zverev, Muller and Querrey playing great so well into their careers must encourage some of the nearly men (Dimi and Nishi for two) to keep on slogging away.
   Can Berd shock Fed? The more the commentators keep talking about a Cilic-Rog final, the more I think there could be an upset.

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Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 4:42 pm

Well sfp .... we've seen much bigger shocks in this sport, that's for sure.

Strange to think that beating a near-36 year old would be deemed an 'upset' - notwithstanding Federer's stellar record here. The last guy to win seven Wimbledons had retired at the age of 31 !

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Post by temporary21 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 4:57 pm

Game over

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Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:03 pm

And the big-hitting Berdy promptly breaks back. Impressive stuff, he's playing well and going for his shots. Game on !

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Post by kemet on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:06 pm

I had a feeling Roger would immediately drop serve after breaking

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Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:06 pm

Fed having a real wobble here. Love game to Berdy as he edges into the lead at 5-4

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Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:14 pm

It's getting tight. Fed has to earn a TB ..... always a lottery.

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Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:23 pm

First blood to the Fed.

That was some set of tennis from both.

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Post by Guest on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:24 pm

This is not a walkover. Federer had to work hard for the first set.

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Post by kemet on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:24 pm

Well, already a better start than the 2010 quarterfinal

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Post by temporary21 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:26 pm

Never that in doubt, Roger was always going to win the tb

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Post by kemet on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:27 pm

No name Bertie wrote:This is not a walkover.  Federer had to work hard for the first set.

I am really not sure why some folks are saying that it is. Although Roger won the first set, he has to find another gear, or this match can become tricky.

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Post by temporary21 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:28 pm

itll be plain sailing from here, Berdych wont come from behind, hell fade like he did in the tb

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Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:33 pm

temporary21 wrote:Never that in doubt, Roger was always going to win the tb

Always impressed with your post-score 'predictions' !

How do you manage it .... ? Wink

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Post by temporary21 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:39 pm

Because I watch tennis

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Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:43 pm

temporary21 wrote:Because I watch tennis

I'm even more impressed now.

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Post by temporary21 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:46 pm

I mean haven't YOU seen this match a hundred times before?

There are only a few people able to hold their nerve against Roger, Berdych isn't, and has never been one of them

You can get sassy all you like but im only pointing out what years of tennis tells us all

Bad luck is the only way it would go any differently

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Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 5:54 pm

Well "years of tennis" tells us all sorts of things.

I certainly saw their last Wimbledon meeting .... when Fed was actually defending his title.

And I know which way that went.

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Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 6:01 pm

Some seriously good clutch serving from the Berd.

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Post by temporary21 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 6:15 pm

and again

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Post by Guest on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 6:17 pm

Federer wins the second set tie-breaker. Another very tight set - Federer just able to hold his nerve - playing aggressively and fearlessly in the tie-breaker and keeping the shanks at bay.

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Post by Guest on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 6:34 pm

Certainly if Cilic is not watching this match - his coaches will be. I am sure they will learn a lot from this and maybe develop a game plan for the final.

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Post by kemet on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 6:43 pm

Good; no repeat of the eighth game in the first set....

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Re: Wimbledon - Day 11 (Friday)

Post by Henman Bill on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 6:47 pm

Good quality match. Very high standard from Federer, some sublime moments oddly punctuated by very very occassionally hitting a ridiculously crappy shot, there was one where he almost missed the ball, I assume we can blame the court for that one. Not sure what happened on the drop shot in the first set that got to about the service line. I could do better than that.

Still, if we can be generous and forget a few moments like that and like a double fault in the tiebreak, this has been very good.

The sequence of points he played to get to 5-1 in second set tiebreak will be worth a repeat later.

It may be possible to gain an advantage by playing deeper shots. It seems the very back of the court on both sides is in very poor condition but only right near the baseline, so you have to play very deep, and risk hitting it out.

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Re: Wimbledon - Day 11 (Friday)

Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 6:49 pm

Berdych worked really hard throughout the match, but ultimately for no reward.

Federer was tested way more than in any previous rounds. But then you'd expect a bit of a battle in a SF.

Cilic will be another step up.

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Post by Henman Bill on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 6:53 pm

I think Federer actually retired at the end of last year and I'm trapped in some sort of dream world - consistently beating Rafa Nadal and winning a slam and reaching Wimbledon final at the age of 35? I'm probably actually in an insane asylum somewhere with doctors working hard to try and drag me back from this delusional alternative reality. Back in the real world it's probably a Nadal-Djokovic final at Wimbledon this year.

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Post by temporary21 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 6:54 pm

Berdych was game... until it really mattered
Story of the mans career really, thats why those sets look tighter than they really are.

The nervy Cilic of today wont touch Roger I dont think, hell need to play twice as well for this not to be a coronation

Once Fedal are gone, tennis is going to have a great depression, noone with the sand to even stand up to them

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Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 6:54 pm

I wonder is that Berdy's last chance of a Slam Final ..... ? He's never really been Mr. Consistency ..... so may not have such a good run again, especially if the younger guys start to make more impact.

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Post by kemet on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 6:56 pm

Roger did very well to win this semi in three sets. If Tomas had managed to win the third set, this match could have been a repeat of the Wimbledon 2011 quarterfinal between Tsonga and Federer, as Tomas played very well in the first two sets. I am glad Roger shut the door at the second time of asking.

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Post by Guest on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 6:58 pm

In Federer's post match interview - was there a message in there for Murray and Djokovic? He said what is more important for him is keeping his body healthy beyond tennis - so he can continue to be a great father and husband. He said that is why he decided to take the 6 months off to recover and presumably why he skipped the clay season. Perhaps there was also a message in there that he too is no longer a spring chicken and carries the wear and tear of a long long career.

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Post by kemet on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 7:00 pm

No name Bertie wrote:In Federer's post match interview - was there a message in there for Murray and Djokovic?  He said what is more important for him is keeping his body healthy beyond tennis - so he can continue to be a great father and husband.  He said that is why he decided to take the 6 months off to recover and presumably why he skipped the clay season.  Perhaps there was also a message in there that he too is no longer a spring chicken and carries the wear and tear of a long long career.

If Roger had played during the clay season, there is no way he would be in another grand slam final on Sunday. I am fairly certain his body would have broken down.

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Post by temporary21 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 7:02 pm

Easy for some I guess. His body appears tireless and uninjurable. Most dont have that luxury, im Sure Murray doesnt choose to get injured

I hope Cilic can do what Stan couldn't last month and make this semi competitive, just to prove that the rest of the non big 4 do have something in them

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Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 7:19 pm

Sure, the break during clay seemed a sensible decision at the time. And is looking even smarter now.

So ...... out of the last ten Slams which Federer has contested, the tally is as follows :

Titles : 1
Finals : 4 (one of which may become a title on Sunday)
Semis : 3

This would be a pretty impressive record for a 25 year old ; but for a guy pushing 36 ........ Shocked Shocked

Speaking of injuries ...... even the enforced six month layoff last year didn't come about because of on-court happenings, AFAIK (?). He did the damage during bath-time with the kids, I believe.

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Post by laverfan on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 7:24 pm

Old Man did well to brush off Berdych's challenge and exorcised his demons. clap clap

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Post by lags72 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 7:45 pm

Today's result leaves Federer sitting at 5 in the rankings.

But Sunday will see a significant switch, whichever way the title match goes ........

- a win for Federer, and he leapfrogs Stan and Novak to move to Number 3 behind Rafa and Andy

- a win for Cilic, and he swaps places with Fed who would drop to 6.

The number 5 spot would be a career high for Cilic, quite apart from him becoming a double Slam Champ.

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Post by Lionel Hutz on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 8:32 pm

I'm very happy with the way this match turned out. I was worried that Federer was finding it too easy which can make it difficult to dig deep when it suddenly gets difficult. This was difficult but just about manageable. He was tested. I was impressed that he kept up the pressure in his return games and inevitably he got his chances. He didn't play his best. But that's good. He had to persevere and he did. He had to keep pushing and pressuring his opponent and he did. I thought Berdych played very very well. Just a few errors at important moments but that is also a reflection of the pressure he was placed under.

This is the perfect test for Sunday's final.

I don't agree that Cilic is a tougher opponent than Berdych. I think Berdych has the superior grass court pedigree notwithstanding his reputation for choking a little.

That said it's a tough test in the final. A player who has beaten Federer before on the big stage and should really havr beaten him here last year. He can blow anyone off the court when he is firing on all cylinders. But roger has to be the heavy favourite

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Post by sirfredperry on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 9:15 pm

Berdych played really well but still lost in straights. Fed was serving so well, taking the ball so early and hitting so well for most of the match that it was difficult to see how Tomas could have beaten him.
   As for the final, Rog will obviously be favourite. Certainly Cilic has shown that he COULD beat Fed, indeed, as Lionel H says above, he should have done so last year at Wimbledon. One remembers Fed playing brilliantly to beat Andy in an SW19 semi-final recently only to to put in a below-par performance in the final against Djoko. But Cilic ain't no Novak.
   Of course, there's far more expectancy on this one for Fed than there was at Melbourne where he was just pleased to go far into the tournament. What was good for him was that he was tested today but did not have to face a long match.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 10:45 pm

Cilic couldnt beat Roger ladt year who was operating with a dodgy knee and in poorer form. Straight sets win for me.
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Post by Henman Bill on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 10:59 pm

Berdych played well, I don't recall any choking, pretty solid and consistent. There was just nothing extra, no magic from him. It was just solid.

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Post by Henman Bill on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 11:01 pm

And the final of the mixed doubles will be Watson/Kontinen vs Murray/Higgins for a guaranteed British winner.

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Post by Guest on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 11:31 pm

I don't want to bang on about me being unable to watch the women's tennis because of the irritating grunting (for me).  What I want to flag up is how enjoyable I have found watching the mixed doubles.  In particular I have found the dynamics of the Murray - Kontinen team really enthralling.  Has anyone watched them play?  Kontinen is the coolest - most relaxed guy I have seen on the tennis court.  Even the way he walks around - with his head moving from side to side - seems to be geared to relax his team-mate - exuding "I don't have a care in the world" type attitude.  You can see how it relaxes Heather Watson - and she is able to generate quality tennis.

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Post by summerblues on Sat 15 Jul 2017, 2:33 am

One more match to go. I did not see the matches today but Fed keeps advancing without dropping any sets. Hopefully he can win on Friday. On one hand, just being in the final one month short of turning 36 is mighty impressive. On the other hand, given how well he has been playing I will feel rather disappointed if he stumbles at the final hurdle.

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Post by summerblues on Sat 15 Jul 2017, 2:35 am

Henman Bill wrote:I think Federer actually retired at the end of last year and I'm trapped in some sort of dream world - consistently beating Rafa Nadal and winning a slam and reaching Wimbledon final at the age of 35?
I think you are trapped in temp's nightmare.

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