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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) on Mon 24 Jul 2017, 10:23 am

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Seeing as there's only 3 matches left in Super Rugby, time to start thinking about TRC


Fixtures:

Day & Date Match Venue Match Official Kick Off (Local)
Week One
Saturday 19-Aug-17 Australia v New Zealand ANZ Stadium, Sydney Jerome Garces (FFR) 20:00
Saturday 19-Aug-17 South Africa v Argentina Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port Elizabeth Romain Poite (FFR) 17.05
Week Two
Saturday 26-Aug-17 New Zealand v Australia Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin Wayne Barnes (RFU) 19.35
Saturday 26-Aug-17 Argentina v South Africa Estadio Padre Ernesto Marlearena, Salta Pascal Gauzere (FFR) 16.40
Week Three
Saturday 09-Sep-17 Yarrow Stadium, New Plymouth Yarrow Stadium, New Plymouth Angus Gardner (ARU) 19.35
Saturday 09-Sep-17 Australia v South Africa NIB Stadium, Perth Glen Jackson (NZR) 18.00
Week Four
Saturday 16-Sep-17 New Zealand v South Africa QBE Stadium, Albany Nigel Owens (WRU) 19.30
Saturday 16-Sep-17 Australia v Argentina Nib Stadium, Perth John Lacey (IRFU) 20:00
Week Five
Saturday 30-Sep-17 South Africa v Australia Toyota Stadium, Bloemfontein Ben O’Keeffe (NZR) 17.05
Saturday 30-Sep-17 Argentina v New Zealand Estadio Velez Sarsfield, Buenos Aires Jaco Peyper (SARU) 19.30
Week Six
Saturday 07-Oct-17 South Africa v New Zealand Newlands, Cape Town Jerome Garces (FFR) 17.05
Saturday 07-Oct-17 Argentina v Australia Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza Mathieu Raynal (FFR) 19.30
Extra Bledisloe Cup
Saturday 21-Oct-17 Australia v New Zealand Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane Wayne Barnes (RFU) 19.00


The Australian squad are already in camp (except for their Brumbies' players), with all their Super Rugby commitments finished - Quade Cooper and Scott Higginbotham notable squad omissions, thought Quade may get a reprieve as Karmichael Hunt is out for the next 2 months

Wallabies Squad:

Wallabies Squad

http://www.superxv.com/cooper-higginbotham-dropped-wallabies-squad/
Extended national train-on squad, excluding Brumbies players

Forwards
Jermaine Ainsley*, Western Force
Adam Coleman, 12 Tests, Western Force
Pek Cowan, 10 Tests, Western Force
Jack Dempsey, 1 Test, NSW Waratahs
Kane Douglas, 31 Tests, Queensland Reds
Sef Fa’agase*, Queensland Reds
Tetera Faulkner, 2 Tests, Western Force
Ned Hanigan, 3 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Richard Hardwick, 2 Tests, Western Force
Michael Hooper, 68 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Sekope Kepu, 80 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Adam Korczyk*, Queensland Reds
Tolu Latu, 4 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Sean McMahon, 15 Tests, Melbourne Rebels
Stephen Moore (c), 120 Tests, Queensland Reds
Tatafu Polota-Nau, 71 Tests, Western Force
Tom Robertson, 9 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Izack Rodda*, Queensland Reds
Rob Simmons, 71 Tests, Queensland Reds
Lopeti Timani, 7 Tests, Melbourne Rebels
Taniela Tupou*, Queensland Reds
Jordan Uelese*, Melbourne Rebels

Backs
Kurtley Beale, 60 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Israel Folau, 55 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Bernard Foley, 45 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Will Genia, 78 Tests
Dane Haylett-Petty, 17 Tests, Western Force
Reece Hodge, 13 Tests, Melbourne Rebels
Karmichael Hunt, 3 Tests, Queensland Reds
Samu Kerevi, 8 Tests, Queensland Reds
Marika Koroibete*, Melbourne Rebels
Campbell Magnay*, Queensland Reds
Billy Meakes*, Western Force
Eto Nabuli, 1 Test, Queensland Reds
Sefa Naivalu, 7 Tests, Melbourne Rebels
Izaia Perese*, Queensland Reds
Nick Phipps, 52 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Curtis Rona*, Western Force
*denotes uncapped player
Players not considered due to injury
Kyle Godwin
Lukhan Tui
James Slipper

Read more: http://www.superxv.com/cooper-higginbotham-dropped-wallabies-squad/#ixzz4njtgTDL9


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Re: The Rugby Championship - Buildup

Post by Biltong on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:28 am

eirebilly wrote:
ebop wrote:Should have been a YC there

Scored the try anyway I guess but poor from Owens

Very little in either if I may be honest, good calls on both from the officiating team.

Agree yellow card, you don't lift your arm above your shoulder if you are only getting up
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Re: The Rugby Championship - Buildup

Post by ebop on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:33 am

YC for Hanigan spoiling a certain try in the corner. Other than that, Owens is doing well as usual.
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Re: The Rugby Championship - Buildup

Post by englishborn on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:34 am

All Blacks looking rattled at the moment, loads of errors and not looking confident in defence at all. They can still rely on their (counter) attack as always though.

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:34 am

The AB's truly are a great side to watch when they get going.

Even 10 points behind, you still have to see them as favourites to win.
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Post by Biltong on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:36 am

Aussie scrum is struggling
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Re: The Rugby Championship - Buildup

Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:38 am

That looks a try to me...
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Post by ebop on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:39 am

No try lost it, fair enough
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Post by englishborn on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:40 am

Looks like he lost control to me and went forward before downward pressure

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:40 am

Not in control. Correct call.
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Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:44 am

That's a try now though. The AB's well in control now. The Aussies will be glad for the break.
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Re: The Rugby Championship - Buildup

Post by Pete330v2 on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:45 am

Eeeron Smuuuuuuuuth

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Re: The Rugby Championship - Buildup

Post by Biltong on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:45 am

If you struggle with your set piece 80 minutes of dominance eventually begins to count against you
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Post by englishborn on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:49 am

Poor Points kicking and scrum going backwards are likely to costs the wallabies this match. Shame really those 9 points from the boot would be very handy going into the 2nd half

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:54 am

I am not so sure that the AB bench is stronger than the Aussies bench. The early loss of Cane will have an impact later in the game for the AB's.

Still very much game on but I still have the AB's as favourites.
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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:58 am

eirebilly wrote:I am not so sure that the AB bench is stronger than the Aussies bench. The early loss of Cane will have an impact later in the game for the AB's.

Still very much game on but I still have the AB's as favourites.

I reckon Ardie Savea is a better player, and yeah I can see the ABs getting another 3 or 4 tries in the second half and winning the game.

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:06 am

The AB's just have that ability to take games away from oppositions in 10minute spells.
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Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:11 am

Think he may have been held up?
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Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:13 am

How can Owens award the try and then review it? He admits he cant see the grounding so how could he award the try?
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Post by englishborn on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:14 am

Maybe he thought he did see it then doubt crept into his mind if he actually did see the ball grounded and wanted to check.

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:22 am

It was coming. Have to agree with Biltong, struggle with the set piece an entire game and you will lose.
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Re: The Rugby Championship - Buildup

Post by ebop on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:23 am

SBW dragged, he's had a shocker
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Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:29 am

Oh what a try from the Aussies clap
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Post by ebop on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:32 am

Doh, SBW is back
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Post by englishborn on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:33 am

Foley again missing his kicks again 21 - 22

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:33 am

That is 3 conversions missed by Foley that you would expect a kicker to get + 1 penalty. 6 definite points missed, that is what will be the major contributing factor here.
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Post by englishborn on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:37 am

without a decent kicker Aussies are purely having to rely on tries, they just do not have the defence or attack to handle that with a team like the all blacks

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:37 am

Why not just give the kicking duties to Beale?

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:40 am

Oh dear god, what a game. Surely Foley must kick this...

Beale clap
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Post by englishborn on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:40 am

then again.....

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:41 am

Beale copped a high hit in the lead up to the try, lot of claret on his face...
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Post by Pete330v2 on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:43 am

What a game, I'm knackered

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:43 am

Simply unbelievable game. Heartbreak for the Aussies.

Those missed points by Foley are what has cost the Aussies here tonight.
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Post by ebop on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:43 am

Nice try ABs

What can happen in 1 minute from restart?
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Post by eirebilly on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:46 am

Well done the AB's, that is some win for them. Excellent match. 5 tries a piece but the Aussies set piece and Foley's kicking proving the decisive factor in them leaving NZ with the loss.
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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:46 am

That was some match, great to watch!

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Post by englishborn on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:46 am

well turns out those points left out there will haunt the Wallabies after all. Good game by the Wallabies, rattled the All Blacks away from home, but have serious issues with kicking and the scrum along with an average defence which will hurt them against most Tier 1 sides.

All Blacks were average at best today but still got the win, they will be a worried though with their leaky defence over the last 3 halves.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:48 am

Unbelievable Aus. What a win that could have been....

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Post by Pete330v2 on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:49 am

A win that the All Blacks had to fight for is exactly what they needed after last week. They'll know they were less than 100% today. What a match though, amazing, so glad I got to watch that.

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Post by ebop on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 10:54 am

Good reply from Australia after last week

Should gain some respect back from home
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Post by ebop on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 11:48 am

Owens had a very good game, excellent referee. He seems to nail the critical moments but allows a game to flow. Not afraid to use the TMO but is in charge. He allows tries to be scored and then checks them rather than blowing up on a hunch. He's not pedantic which can build up frustration amongst players so the players play positively. If only he could have been involved in the Lions series Wink
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Post by Biltong on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 1:22 pm

Nice to see the Aussies putting some intensity into the march, good contest.

A big improvement from last weekend
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Post by alfie on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 3:27 pm

That was a hell of a game ! Honestly didn't expect Australia to even get close after last weeks effort - and even when they went 17-0 early on I thought the ABs would storm back and smother them...
Have to admire the way they kept coming back ; a decent kicker and ...? OK , NZ clearly well off their best ; but still that was the best Australian challenge on that side of the water for many years clap

They'll be gutted losing it at the end ; but in truth their own defensive shortcomings meant a NZ team with three minutes to score was always likely to do so. Great to watch anyway thumbsup

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Post by aucklandlaurie on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 5:54 pm

ABs played a mistake ridden game, but Australia after achieving that initial lead should have gone on to won.
 Anyway was not to be and the Bledisloe Cup gets to live another year in Wellington.

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Post by Galted on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 8:18 pm

It's quite an achievement to score almost 50 unanswered points over the course of two matches and lose them both.
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Post by Biltong on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:40 pm

Galted wrote:It's quite an achievement to score almost 50 unanswered points over the course of two matches and lose them both.

Not when it is book ended by 89 points
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Post by aucklandlaurie on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 9:46 pm

Galted wrote:It's quite an achievement to score almost 50 unanswered points over the course of two matches and lose them both.

 One would have that the mere fact that they lost shows that they were answered

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Post by Galted on Sat 26 Aug 2017, 11:47 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Galted wrote:It's quite an achievement to score almost 50 unanswered points over the course of two matches and lose them both.

 One would have that the mere fact that they lost shows that they were answered

If one was easily bewildered, perhaps.
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Post by aucklandlaurie on Sun 27 Aug 2017, 1:26 am

South Africa 41...Argentina 23.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sun 27 Aug 2017, 10:55 am

SA actually got their bonus point this week then. Remarkable turnaround given the state that team was in last season.

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Post by emack2 on Sun 27 Aug 2017, 9:33 pm

A proper Bledisloe reminiscent of AUS 1998-2000 with lots of matches going
to the wire.Wakeup call for all teams 2016.isn`t 2017 Argentina can`t divide
there side between 3 continents and expect to win regularly.
Narrow minded comments about players private lives has no place here that`s
for gossip columns.
It is plain for all to see that the vast number of Caps lost to the NZ side,has
left them vulnerable.
Mackenzie ,Jordie Barrett the future,managing players to help them reachRWC
is in place.Players now 34 like Kaino and Crockett won`t be there the mid
field is crucial.Crotty/ALB the best combination NZ are rebuilding as they
go along.
THE BOKS probably lead the table on points difference,and may fancy there
chances this year.

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