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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) on Mon 24 Jul 2017, 10:23 am

First topic message reminder :

Seeing as there's only 3 matches left in Super Rugby, time to start thinking about TRC


Fixtures:

Day & Date Match Venue Match Official Kick Off (Local)
Week One
Saturday 19-Aug-17 Australia v New Zealand ANZ Stadium, Sydney Jerome Garces (FFR) 20:00
Saturday 19-Aug-17 South Africa v Argentina Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port Elizabeth Romain Poite (FFR) 17.05
Week Two
Saturday 26-Aug-17 New Zealand v Australia Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin Wayne Barnes (RFU) 19.35
Saturday 26-Aug-17 Argentina v South Africa Estadio Padre Ernesto Marlearena, Salta Pascal Gauzere (FFR) 16.40
Week Three
Saturday 09-Sep-17 Yarrow Stadium, New Plymouth Yarrow Stadium, New Plymouth Angus Gardner (ARU) 19.35
Saturday 09-Sep-17 Australia v South Africa NIB Stadium, Perth Glen Jackson (NZR) 18.00
Week Four
Saturday 16-Sep-17 New Zealand v South Africa QBE Stadium, Albany Nigel Owens (WRU) 19.30
Saturday 16-Sep-17 Australia v Argentina Nib Stadium, Perth John Lacey (IRFU) 20:00
Week Five
Saturday 30-Sep-17 South Africa v Australia Toyota Stadium, Bloemfontein Ben O’Keeffe (NZR) 17.05
Saturday 30-Sep-17 Argentina v New Zealand Estadio Velez Sarsfield, Buenos Aires Jaco Peyper (SARU) 19.30
Week Six
Saturday 07-Oct-17 South Africa v New Zealand Newlands, Cape Town Jerome Garces (FFR) 17.05
Saturday 07-Oct-17 Argentina v Australia Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza Mathieu Raynal (FFR) 19.30
Extra Bledisloe Cup
Saturday 21-Oct-17 Australia v New Zealand Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane Wayne Barnes (RFU) 19.00


The Australian squad are already in camp (except for their Brumbies' players), with all their Super Rugby commitments finished - Quade Cooper and Scott Higginbotham notable squad omissions, thought Quade may get a reprieve as Karmichael Hunt is out for the next 2 months

Wallabies Squad:

Wallabies Squad

http://www.superxv.com/cooper-higginbotham-dropped-wallabies-squad/
Extended national train-on squad, excluding Brumbies players

Forwards
Jermaine Ainsley*, Western Force
Adam Coleman, 12 Tests, Western Force
Pek Cowan, 10 Tests, Western Force
Jack Dempsey, 1 Test, NSW Waratahs
Kane Douglas, 31 Tests, Queensland Reds
Sef Fa’agase*, Queensland Reds
Tetera Faulkner, 2 Tests, Western Force
Ned Hanigan, 3 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Richard Hardwick, 2 Tests, Western Force
Michael Hooper, 68 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Sekope Kepu, 80 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Adam Korczyk*, Queensland Reds
Tolu Latu, 4 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Sean McMahon, 15 Tests, Melbourne Rebels
Stephen Moore (c), 120 Tests, Queensland Reds
Tatafu Polota-Nau, 71 Tests, Western Force
Tom Robertson, 9 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Izack Rodda*, Queensland Reds
Rob Simmons, 71 Tests, Queensland Reds
Lopeti Timani, 7 Tests, Melbourne Rebels
Taniela Tupou*, Queensland Reds
Jordan Uelese*, Melbourne Rebels

Backs
Kurtley Beale, 60 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Israel Folau, 55 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Bernard Foley, 45 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Will Genia, 78 Tests
Dane Haylett-Petty, 17 Tests, Western Force
Reece Hodge, 13 Tests, Melbourne Rebels
Karmichael Hunt, 3 Tests, Queensland Reds
Samu Kerevi, 8 Tests, Queensland Reds
Marika Koroibete*, Melbourne Rebels
Campbell Magnay*, Queensland Reds
Billy Meakes*, Western Force
Eto Nabuli, 1 Test, Queensland Reds
Sefa Naivalu, 7 Tests, Melbourne Rebels
Izaia Perese*, Queensland Reds
Nick Phipps, 52 Tests, NSW Waratahs
Curtis Rona*, Western Force
*denotes uncapped player
Players not considered due to injury
Kyle Godwin
Lukhan Tui
James Slipper

Read more: http://www.superxv.com/cooper-higginbotham-dropped-wallabies-squad/#ixzz4njtgTDL9


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Re: The Rugby Championship - Buildup

Post by Mr Fishpaste on Sat 30 Sep 2017, 5:35 pm

AGAIN..Kriel waits too long to offload...

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Re: The Rugby Championship - Buildup

Post by Mr Fishpaste on Sat 30 Sep 2017, 5:38 pm

Biltong wrote:Kriel reminds me of Spies, looks like a great athlete, but not a great rugby player

Too many 'roids. Not enough chess and ping pong.

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Post by Mr Fishpaste on Sat 30 Sep 2017, 5:42 pm

Cronje is finished...

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Post by Mr Fishpaste on Sat 30 Sep 2017, 5:46 pm

How was that not forward?

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 30 Sep 2017, 5:47 pm

Ridiculous not to see that forward pass.

Could cost Australia the game.

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Post by Mr Fishpaste on Sat 30 Sep 2017, 5:49 pm

well, it balances out with Falau's 'hair tackle'

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Re: The Rugby Championship - Buildup

Post by Biltong on Sat 30 Sep 2017, 5:53 pm

Boks can't finish, far too many 50/50 passes, far too many discipline issues and defence out widie is poor.
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Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 30 Sep 2017, 5:55 pm

Nothing worse than consecutive draws.

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Post by Mr Fishpaste on Sat 30 Sep 2017, 5:59 pm

...I'd say losing 57-0 was worse... Whistle

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 30 Sep 2017, 6:45 pm

That is a game lost for the Bok's. Composure and Discipline were their downfall.
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Post by Gwlad on Sat 30 Sep 2017, 8:28 pm

eirebilly wrote:That is a game lost for the Bok's. Composure and Discipline were their downfall.

A 9 who crabs every ruck and a 3 who can't scrummage just the obvious problems, and a clear lack of traditional Bok physicality.


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Re: The Rugby Championship - Buildup

Post by Gwlad on Sun 01 Oct 2017, 4:14 pm

good to see no corruption in the NZ Argentina game and that as a result NZ won.

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Re: The Rugby Championship - Buildup

Post by ebop on Sun 01 Oct 2017, 8:30 pm

There's gwlad with his racist attitude again

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Post by Taylorman on Mon 02 Oct 2017, 12:41 am

ebop wrote:There's gwlad with his racist attitude again

Rolling Eyes

Yeah we'll just wait till his beloved Wales gets their beans...at least the ones that havent been consumed by Lions yet. Frankly, theyd probably have a better chance in the cage, less of a mauling somewhat. thumbsup

Gwlad illustrates perfectly why one would think he can pat a Lion.... laughing hilarious...

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Post by Gwlad on Mon 02 Oct 2017, 1:51 am

That Lion has more bite than both of you clowns together....like tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber

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Re: The Rugby Championship - Buildup

Post by ebop on Mon 02 Oct 2017, 1:58 am

Gwlad strikes me as someone who would pat a lion
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Post by Biltong on Mon 02 Oct 2017, 4:11 am

Lions aren't picky eaters, if it moves they'll eat it.
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Post by kingraf on Mon 02 Oct 2017, 2:50 pm

Ruan Dreyer can't start next week. He's a walking scrum penalty.

Thoughts on the penalty at the death Biltong? I've got into this debate a few times, it's Elton's weaker side, it's reasonably close, so he doesn't have a great angle to work with and he's probably groggy from the hit he took. So there's some credence behind going for the line out and drive. I understand all of that... My only counter is that I don't trust Marx to feed a quality ball with the game on the line.
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Post by aucklandlaurie on Mon 02 Oct 2017, 3:03 pm

Biltong wrote:Lions aren't picky eaters,  if it moves they'll eat it.

 Then again you South Africans should be kinder to your livestock, feeding them up on Welshmen is nothing short of animal cruelty.

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Post by ebop on Mon 02 Oct 2017, 11:49 pm

Who has the strongest scrum in world rugby at the moment?
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Post by Biltong on Mon 02 Oct 2017, 11:51 pm

kingraf wrote:Ruan Dreyer can't start next week. He's a walking scrum penalty.

Thoughts on the penalty at the death Biltong? I've got into this debate a few times, it's Elton's weaker side, it's reasonably close, so he doesn't have a great angle to work with and he's probably groggy from the hit he took. So there's some credence behind going for the line out and drive. I understand all of that... My only counter is that I don't trust Marx to feed a quality ball with the game on the line.

I was thinking the same thing at the time, weak side, head knock, pressure, take the line out.
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Post by Biltong on Mon 02 Oct 2017, 11:53 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Biltong wrote:Lions aren't picky eaters,  if it moves they'll eat it.

 Then again you South Africans should be kinder to your livestock, feeding them up on Welshmen is nothing short of animal cruelty.

We did warn the Lions not to partake in a bite of Welsh meat. But wild animals have a mind of their own Smile
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Post by Biltong on Mon 02 Oct 2017, 11:54 pm

ebop wrote:Who has the strongest scrum in world rugby at the moment?

I think depending on the day, the referee and the available frontrows it can be any of a number of teams.

I don't think anyone is the clear dominant scrum though.
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Post by Gwlad on Tue 03 Oct 2017, 9:01 pm

ebop wrote:Gwlad strikes me as someone who would pat a lion

and you strike me as someone who would run away screaming

ebop ----> Run   Run Run Run H E L P

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Post by Tattie Scones RRN on Thu 05 Oct 2017, 6:49 am

ebop wrote:Who has the strongest scrum in world rugby at the moment?

Any scrum that has Gethin Jenkins in it.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Fri 06 Oct 2017, 1:51 pm

Good stat Ive just seen sa fielded 355 caps vs aus. Racing fielded 395 vs montpellier.

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Post by emack2 on Fri 06 Oct 2017, 10:21 pm

Two events happened before the NZv Argentina match that some things
are more important than Rugby.
Congratulations on the Sopaga family`s new baby,condolences on the
Retalicks loss of a child.
South Africa v Australia was an excellent match to watch ,no cards to
effect the result.
NZ v Argentina was ruined by a pedantic Ref with yellow card fever.
Barrett had a Carlos Spencer day genius one minute,the a blunder
the next.Given the team fielded a solid if scrappy win for them.
The next two games will show more where the SH sides are at
NZ fielding the strongest possible side from players available
bar perhaps Luke Romano for Tuitopu,the 3 Canterbury Locks
no each others game so well.
Hopefully tomorrow two card free games SA will be better at
home ,NZ by less than 10

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Fri 06 Oct 2017, 11:03 pm

Devastating news for Retallick and his wife, so sorry to hear about that. As you say emack, puts the rugby into perspective. Thoughts are with them rose.

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Post by Gwlad on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 1:16 am

ebop's still running away from that lion....do hope he doesnt get bitten.

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 3:56 pm

Best of luck SA. Hopefully they can get a win to end the tournament but on the same side it may be better that they lose so as to highlight the management failures...
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Post by Rugby Fan on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 4:39 pm

Good start. NZ look dangerous but S.A. have scrambled well and offered a few threats themselves.

3-3 after 25 minutes

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Post by Biltong on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 5:04 pm

All Blacks are holding on to every Frak ball after being tackled
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Post by Rugby Fan on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 5:10 pm

Nearly 10 minutes of extra time in the first half!

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Post by stevetynant on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 5:15 pm

Fair play to the boks huge heart after last week. Blacks still look dangerous out wide,Etzebeth having a great game but the Sa scrum half is bloody awful. Kicking away possession and hop skip and jump before he makes a pass surely there's someone better to come on.my guess is the effort will tell on the Boks in the last 20 but huge improvement from SA so far

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 5:18 pm

Excellent from the Boks but I still cant see how that AB try was awarded...

The AB's really living a charmed life at the breakdown, they are holding on for far too long but if ye can get away with it...
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Post by Rugby Fan on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 5:27 pm

10-8 now to the Boks

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Post by Mr Fishpaste on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 5:29 pm

The AB's pillar defense seems to be a bit wanting in the last couple of minutes...

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Post by stevetynant on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 5:38 pm

Not often I find myself shouting for SA but cmon boks

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Post by Mr Fishpaste on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 5:42 pm

well, that's disappointing...and I can fairly say, against the run of play...

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Post by stevetynant on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 5:48 pm

Marks another having an awesome game how can they keep this level of intensity going

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Post by Rugby Fan on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 5:50 pm

After 65 minutes it's 17-15 to the Boks

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Post by Rugby Fan on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 5:51 pm

The players will feel like it's 75 minutes gone after such a long first half.

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Post by Mr Fishpaste on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 5:53 pm

Interesting call...unlucky (this time) for Read, but it compensates for his knock-down not being a penalty...

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Post by stevetynant on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 6:03 pm

That's never a red card after massive collisions throughout the game to get a red for that unbelievable

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Post by Mr Fishpaste on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 6:04 pm

De Allende, you twit

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Post by Mr Fishpaste on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 6:05 pm

stevetynant wrote:That's never a red card after massive collisions throughout the game to get a red for that unbelievable
And considering that last week Falau didn't get any card for dragging Leyds by the hair...

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Post by The Great Aukster on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 6:08 pm

Stupid from DeAllende, SA could have won that. Dreadful playacting from Sopoaga - the AB s are getting a reputation for that.

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Post by Mr Fishpaste on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 6:10 pm

I'll say it: the Boks should have won that...but I suppose the rub of the green went the ABs way...

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 6:12 pm

What a much improved performance from the Boks, really showed some heart and commitment. I cannot for the life of me see how that was a straight red card (not that it cost SA the game).

Goes to show that some times the better team on the day can lose...
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Post by Mr Fishpaste on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 6:18 pm

Despite the disappointing result for us Bok fans...it was a cracker of a game...

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