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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 5:09 am

Agree with all that, but that seems to be the way we're doing things lately. A good AP player on possibly less wages but over 3 years or so.

Logo would be a welcome addition to our rather pitiful prop stable. Past Welsh and Lockwood (Who's improving every game), there's little available. We're falling back on semi-pro's and cheap foreign imports at the minute.

We're also rumoured to be signing a lump of a tighthead from the Championship, Mark Tampin?? If he's as good as Lockwood, I'll be happy with this one.

It's been an area of concern for a number of years....we generally sign poop props (Bar Welsh and Lockwood).

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by yappysnap on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 7:22 am

And Hayman and Golding

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 8:08 am

A bit further back Yappy!!

I never rated Golding that highly tbh, although he was good in the loose. I think I could have played at LH and looked good alongside Hayman....who was an absolute animal in his prime.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 8:26 am

the rumour is a one year deal for Logo.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 9:33 am

That would be a bit strange Welly.

Tom Arscott signs for Falcons. Not too excited with this one with 2 good young English options waiting in backup.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by GeordieFalcon on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 9:48 am

We have confirmed Winger Tom Arscott is joining us next season. Squad player who is EQP and replaces the out going Agulla.

Sensible.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by GeordieFalcon on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 9:53 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:That would be a bit strange Welly.

Tom Arscott signs for Falcons. Not too excited with this one with 2 good young English options waiting in backup.  

I think its an Agulla replacement Sgt. Solid squad player who can cover a few positions and Is English. Not a bad move.

Now Mulipola, im not convinced on that one. But then Dean has proved me wrong in the past.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by king_carlos on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 2:20 pm

Apparently fitting Logo and Cilliers in under the cap is the problem facing Tigers. If it's a choice of one or the other I'd take Logo any day. Both have injury problems but Logo is the better player by a mile.

He's had a positive impact this season since getting fit, with some proper rotation I think Logo still has a lot to offer any team.

I heard a rumour Tigers were looking at Shaun Knight as a squad prop the other day. We might as well keep Baumann and Traynor for all the good signings such as that would add. If we want value for money in a squad prop then look to the Championship as Baxter has done at Exe or Falcons did with Lockwood.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 6:35 pm

king_carlos wrote:Apparently fitting Logo and Cilliers in under the cap is the problem facing Tigers. If it's a choice of one or the other I'd take Logo any day. Both have injury problems but Logo is the better player by a mile.

He's had a positive impact this season since getting fit, with some proper rotation I think Logo still has a lot to offer any team.

I heard a rumour Tigers were looking at Shaun Knight as a squad prop the other day. We might as well keep Baumann and Traynor for all the good signings such as that would add. If we want value for money in a squad prop then look to the Championship as Baxter has done at Exe or Falcons did with Lockwood.

Knight will be cheap TBF.

He was once quite rated at one time, maybe Boris would get an Indian summer out of him (Saying Indian summer he is 28).
Champ props are not that cheap anymore most the better scrummaging props (Ealing's) have been snapped up


Saying that Knight will be the third prop tigers have been linked to with Cortes and Paddy Ryan being the other 2.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by GeordieFalcon on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 8:52 pm

Paddy Ryan? Really Welly?

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 9:07 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Paddy Ryan? Really Welly?

Not your one the other one.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by formerly known as Sam on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 9:44 pm

Shaun Knight - Bath
Gaston Cortes - Bristol
Paddy Ryan - Waratahs

All currently linked. The Irish scouts always find decent scrummaging SA props with a bit of an edge. Why can't we?

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by GeordieFalcon on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 9:47 pm

Welly wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Paddy Ryan? Really Welly?

Not your one the other one.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by GeordieFalcon on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 12:35 pm

Well it looks like we're signing Mulipola, Johnny Williams and someone called Hanpin / tanpin?? Never heard of him

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 12:54 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Well it looks like we're signing Mulipola, Johnny Williams and someone called Hanpin / tanpin?? Never heard of him

Mark Tampin?

Ealing Tighthead.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by formerly known as Sam on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 12:56 pm

Aren't Ealing supposed to have a good scrum? Good signings.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 12:59 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:Aren't Ealing supposed to have a good scrum? Good signings.

Yep, although they are already losing 2 other props to prem clubs next season.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 3:16 pm

A scrummaging TH would be a welcome addition and would take the burden off Welsh. A good pre-season for Lockwood should see him return stronger, he's getting better every game. Mulipola would obviously help a lot too.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 3:59 pm

Craig Willis ---> Ealing.

Huge potential in that team.


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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by GeordieFalcon on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 4:10 pm

Ah...a Good TH...well that would be a welcome addition! Poor Jon Welsh has worked his socks off this season!

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 5:24 pm

Welly wrote: Craig Willis ---> Falcons.

Huge potential in that team.

I don't get you Welly, you've heard he's leaving?

Edit.....he's off to Ealing.

Sad news as he's got something about him. He's be an excellent backup for an AP club.

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Post by propdavid_london on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 5:43 pm

Ealing have signed Harry Sloan from Quins - real shame as Harry looked to have been doing really well barring injury and a 'Lion' being in front of him.

Ealing seem to be in the top half of the championship on a more regular basis now - seem to have real ambitions, which is great to see in an area that has so many clubs

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 6:02 pm

propdavid_london wrote:Ealing have signed Harry Sloan from Quins - real shame as Harry looked to have been doing really well barring injury and a 'Lion' being in front of him.

Ealing seem to be in the top half of the championship on  a more regular basis now - seem to have real ambitions, which is great to see in an area that has so many clubs

Well their Owner is worth £200+ million so not surprised if they are ambitious.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by GeordieFalcon on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 8:22 pm

Willis is off to Ealing sgt?? What?

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by GeordieFalcon on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 8:27 pm

Ah seen it on the unoffy now.

Don't get why he hasn't been used more...

We have Connon still coming through though and Matavesi Snr can play 10 aswell.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 9:06 pm

Ealing backline potentially of
9. J.Burns (Rumoured with Simpson)
10. Clegg
11. Cordy-Redden
12. Willis
13. Armitage
14. Packman
15. Johnston

Is really handy.

Will be interesting to see who Irish can keep / sign.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by formerly known as Sam on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 9:26 pm

As in Joe Simpson? He'd clean up at Championship level.

Will they get their backline any ball with losing their props?

LI should be able to maintain most of their squad. They'll have their best young talent cherry picked but the established first team players will probably remain.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 9:40 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:As in Joe Simpson? He'd clean up at Championship level.

Will they get their backline any ball with losing their props?

LI should be able to maintain most of their squad. They'll have their best young talent cherry picked but the established first team players will probably remain.

They have signed a few props TBF i think they have a really good coaching system over there..

Would be surprised if
Bell
Marshall
Cokasigna
Williams
Botha
Are there next season. (Maybe Brophy-Clews and Steele aswell).

COuld see a few retiring.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Margin_Walker on Wed 18 Apr 2018, 9:45 pm

Bell just ruptured his Achilles, so doubt he'll be picked up.

Think Steele will likely be off as he's out of contract anyway. Would hope to keep Brophy Clews and Marshall of those listed.

Obviously impossible to compare LI and Ealing (on paper anyway) until the dust settles, but we should retain a decent squad, albeit be harder hit than last time we went down

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 9:20 am

David Halaifonua off to Coventry

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 11:23 am

Logo confirmed to Falcons....very happy with this one.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 11:58 am

I think he'll be getting the Dean fitness treatment. He'll want him able to play more than a few brief bench run outs.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by LondonTiger on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 11:58 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Logo confirmed to Falcons....very happy with this one.

You are getting better value for money taking our "older" players than Bath ever did.

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Post by LondonTiger on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 12:02 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:I think he'll be getting the Dean fitness treatment. He'll want him able to play more than a few brief bench run outs.

8 starts and 7 appearances from the bench in the AP this season (so 75% of games so far)

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 12:03 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Logo confirmed to Falcons....very happy with this one.

You are getting better value for money taking our "older" players than Bath ever did.

Mermoz is prob not the best value marquee player in the world though. (Prob rich considering Manu is one of ours.....).

wonder how much the 2 year thing came out of it, World cup year normally takes alot out of a player let alone one with knee issues.

Excellent player though.

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Post by Welly on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 12:04 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:I think he'll be getting the Dean fitness treatment. He'll want him able to play more than a few brief bench run outs.

8 starts and 7 appearances from the bench in the AP this season (so 75% of games so far)

Yep match fitness isn't his issue it's injuries which unfortunately are hard to predict.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by LondonTiger on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 12:05 pm

Welly wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Logo confirmed to Falcons....very happy with this one.

You are getting better value for money taking our "older" players than Bath ever did.

Mermoz is prob not the best value marquee player in the world though. (Prob rich considering Manu is one of ours.....).

wonder how much the 2 year thing came out of it, World cup year normally takes alot out of a player let alone one with knee issues.

Excellent player though.

Not sure Mermoz was with us long enough to count Smile

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by formerly known as Sam on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 1:01 pm

Welly wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:I think he'll be getting the Dean fitness treatment. He'll want him able to play more than a few brief bench run outs.

8 starts and 7 appearances from the bench in the AP this season (so 75% of games so far)

Yep match fitness isn't his issue it's injuries which unfortunately are hard to predict.

Considering his size and playing style he's put some impressive shifts in for us this season. Sad to see he's off.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 1:31 pm

Ah ok, I wasn't aware he was fit enough, I just seemed to always see him coming off the bench.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 2:22 pm

I don't think we have a marquee player on the books. From previous mentions from Deano, we have one if not the smallest budgets in the league and don't get near the limit. I know Sale had a smaller budget too (they have a small squad) but they've signed a few big names this past season in JOC etc.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by king_carlos on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 3:45 pm

I'm sad to see Logo go but it sounds like a similar situation to Goneva whereby Falcons could simply offer a much higher salary than Tigers viewed as value for money. Niki has returned on the investment so far for Falcons IMO and I hope Logo does the same.

He's a top player and a fantastic bloke with the fans.

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 4:55 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Ah ok, I wasn't aware he was fit enough, I just seemed to always see him coming off the bench.

Cole is a better scrunmager and defender so normally starts. Logo comes on when the opposition is tiring and really doesn't want a 20 stone monster running at them and trying to shove them around in the right.

He's not like Fonua, Logo's favourite hobbies include rowing and camping. Lovely bloke, he'll get on famously with the locals up in Newcastle.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 7:09 pm

king_carlos wrote:I'm sad to see Logo go but it sounds like a similar situation to Goneva whereby Falcons could simply offer a much higher salary than Tigers viewed as value for money. Niki has returned on the investment so far for Falcons IMO and I hope Logo does the same.

He's a top player and a fantastic bloke with the fans.

I would doubt very much that we offer more money, but just a longer contract.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 7:47 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
king_carlos wrote:I'm sad to see Logo go but it sounds like a similar situation to Goneva whereby Falcons could simply offer a much higher salary than Tigers viewed as value for money. Niki has returned on the investment so far for Falcons IMO and I hope Logo does the same.

He's a top player and a fantastic bloke with the fans.

I would doubt very much that we offer more money, but just a longer contract.

Nah you did.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 8:03 pm

That would make a first Welly!

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by formerly known as Sam on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 8:29 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:That would make a first Welly!

Not really you outbid us for Goneva as well.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 8:43 pm

These are key players...in other areas Dean has been immensely shrewd and got good players very cheap really...its just a case of bidding high for what you see as essential.

A top TH is in that category now...as Davy Wilson has failed miserably (maybe even go in the summer) and Scotty...well we'll see. Jon Welh does too much work.

Goneva was the same. We needed a big name to highlight where the club are going...but also a genuine top class try scorer...

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 8:47 pm

We have tended to be quite conservative on deals for players over 30 have had bad luck on injuries. Falcons knew the quality of these players and took the punt. Keep them fit and they are quality players.

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 9:21 pm

Dean seems to have a good return on older experienced guys or players who had not achieved potential due to injuries etc.

Players like Latu, Goneva, Scott Macloed , he's managed Scott Lawson, Aly Hogg, and Bobby Vickers superbly and players like Dom Waldouck were useful.

The best has been Calum Green. What a signing that guy has been. Injuries wrecked his tigers hopes, rehabbed went to Leeds and then Dean grabbed him. I honestly cant think of a lock (Itoje, Launchbury included) that I would swap him for. He just fits us so well! And he's leading lineout taker and lineout steals in the league!

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 10:50 pm

We have another signing to announce on Saturday apparently.

Wonder if its Johnny Williams or Tampin the Ealing prop. Is he a loose head?

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