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Post by George Carlin on Sun 30 Jul 2017, 7:15 am

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 3:41 pm

I think he could be brought through Welly. He has potential and size.

I agree with Sgt I really don't think Saracens are good at bringing through backs for whatever reasons, unlike what they are capable of with their forwards.

However I will say...its now or never..he needs to make this move the right one and fulfil that potential.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by beshocked on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 3:44 pm

Well with the signing of Lewington it's not that surprising Earle has left. I wish him all the best. Quins should suit him but of course Quins still need to sort their pack out.

I wonder if Earle will be the only promising youngster leaving Saracens.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 3:49 pm

I don’t doubt Earle has potential just he hasn’t been that good when he has had his chances.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 3:55 pm

Earle has hardly had a chance tbh.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by No 7&1/2 on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 4:02 pm

Saracens have messed that up.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by nathan on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 4:46 pm

Ben Youngs resigns and the world's worst kept secret Gigena is confirmed

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by ChequeredJersey on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 4:47 pm

re-signs or resigns?
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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by yappysnap on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 7:09 pm

Earle is a good signing, I wonder if anyone is leaving though to make way for him?

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Fluxy on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 7:24 pm

Toulon sign Messam, not Kaino to replace Vermeulen

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by mikey_dragon on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 7:31 pm

Fluxy wrote:Toulon sign Messam, not Kaino to replace Vermeulen

I didn't think Kaino would be a good signing, he's a little old. Neither of the ABs play at 8 either right? And hopefully Vermuelen is back in the SA set-up, he can still reach the world cup.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by GeordieFalcon on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 8:06 pm

yappysnap wrote:Earle is a good signing, I wonder if anyone is leaving though to make way for him?

Did you replace Yarde when he left?

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by formerly known as Sam on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 8:14 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
Fluxy wrote:Toulon sign Messam, not Kaino to replace Vermeulen

I didn't think Kaino would be a good signing, he's a little old. Neither of the ABs play at 8 either right? And hopefully Vermuelen is back in the SA set-up, he can still reach the world cup.

Messam has played some 8 previously. It takes him straight out of the NZ RWC options as well. Coming in the same week as Soponga confirmed to Wasps that's two experienced players unavailable for the world cup. That might annoy Hansen somewhat.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by GeordieFalcon on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 8:23 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
Fluxy wrote:Toulon sign Messam, not Kaino to replace Vermeulen

I didn't think Kaino would be a good signing, he's a little old. Neither of the ABs play at 8 either right? And hopefully Vermuelen is back in the SA set-up, he can still reach the world cup.

Messam has played some 8 previously. It takes him straight out of the NZ RWC options as well. Coming in the same week as Soponga confirmed to Wasps that's two experienced players unavailable for the world cup. That might annoy Hansen somewhat.

I'm sure they'll cope Sam.... Wink

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 10:42 pm

Bristol announcing 9 new players tomorrow.
RugbyInsideLine are saying
John Afoa (Top left)
Harry Thacker (Bottom middle)
Jake Heehan (B. 2 from right)
Nic Stirzaker (T. 2 from right)
Tiff Eden (B. 2 from left)
Shaun Malton (T. 2 from left)
Aly Muldowney (B. left)
Jordan Lay (B. right)
Yann Thomas (T. Right)

Which is pretty average really.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by ChequeredJersey on Sat 20 Jan 2018, 8:21 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:
yappysnap wrote:Earle is a good signing, I wonder if anyone is leaving though to make way for him?

Did you replace Yarde when he left?

No, that is whom he is replacing.
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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by nathan on Sat 20 Jan 2018, 9:51 am

Shame to see thacker go but it's been expected for a long time

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Rugby Fan on Sat 20 Jan 2018, 11:26 am

nathan wrote:Shame to see thacker go but it's been expected for a long time
Where do you think Bristol will play him?

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Sat 20 Jan 2018, 12:32 pm

Prob Hooker if they are signing the Heehan.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sat 20 Jan 2018, 12:50 pm

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nathan wrote:Shame to see thacker go but it's been expected for a long time
Where do you think Bristol will play him?

He's got a lot better at scrum time but continues to be a menace around the park. Still our best lineout operator. If he moves to openside full time he'll need to work on surviving the clear out. He's the type of player that can change a game, annoyed we've not made more of him to be honest.

Afoa and Thacker aside those signings aren't inspiring.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Sat 20 Jan 2018, 4:34 pm

so bristol currently looking at a team of what?
1. Tongaʻuiha (?)
2. Thacker
3. Afoa
4. Vui
5. Muldowney
6. Lam
7. Heenan
8. Luatua
9. Stirzaker
10. Madigan
11. Varndell
12. Tovey
13. Hurrell
14. Morahan
15. Piutau

needs alot more still esp front row

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sat 20 Jan 2018, 5:17 pm

Lieua and Siale Piatau are both there and more likely to tart than Tovey. Tight five depth is vial so you'd expect them to keep trying to improve in that department.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by king_carlos on Sat 20 Jan 2018, 7:22 pm

A shame to see Harry go but understandable for him to go searching for more starts. It's what he needs at this stage of his career, especially with TPN arriving.

He bailed Tigers out of trouble in his breakthrough season when Tom Youngs was injured and he played fantastically as starter. His try against Saints will live long in the memory too. His long range throws helped the line-outs attacking options a lot back when it was functioning. It's a shame his progression stalled when his starts dried up.

I hope he does well at Brizz and pushes on. He's such a live wire in the loose which as much as anything makes him a very enjoyable player to watch when he gets the ball. I'll certainly miss seeing him in a Tigers shirt and would much rather keep him.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Hazel Sapling on Sun 21 Jan 2018, 11:38 am

I think Hurrell is at Edinburgh next season so replace him with S Piutau.

They could do with another lock, a bigger option at hooker and a good loosehead before they spend money elsewhere. I wonder if they will raid LI for their young LH or Reid. Assume they will be scouring South Africa or Australia for some talent in the forwards.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 21 Jan 2018, 12:43 pm

https://www.bristolrugby.co.uk/news/signedupsaturday-the-wrap-up/

Hurrell features on the confirmed squad so far post for next season so Bristol aren't anticipating losing him.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by BigGee on Sun 21 Jan 2018, 1:01 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:https://www.bristolrugby.co.uk/news/signedupsaturday-the-wrap-up/

Hurrell features on the confirmed squad so far post for next season so Bristol aren't anticipating losing him.

Hurrell was strongly tipped for Edinburgh, but then re-signed for Bristol. Maybe he was holding out for a better offer or did not fancy the weather in Edinburgh!

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 21 Jan 2018, 2:44 pm

BigGee wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:https://www.bristolrugby.co.uk/news/signedupsaturday-the-wrap-up/

Hurrell features on the confirmed squad so far post for next season so Bristol aren't anticipating losing him.

Hurrell was strongly tipped for Edinburgh, but then re-signed for Bristol. Maybe he was holding out for a better offer or did not fancy the weather in Edinburgh!

Bristol went with a lucrative offer to get him from Doncaster on the first place (after he tore their defence open in the playoffs) so I'm guessing his new deal after an excellent AP season was pretty lucrative. He'd have been great signing for Edinburgh. I was hoping he'd have come home to Tigers.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 2:05 pm

Brussow arrives at Saints. Could be an inspired signing if he's anywhere near the levels he was before he left for Japan. One of favourite recent players, can't wait to see him in the AP.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Scottrf on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 2:18 pm

Doubt there is anyone better at the breakdown in the AP?

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by munkian on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 2:28 pm

Scottrf wrote:Doubt there is anyone better at the breakdown in the AP?

Saints will soon ruin that.
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Post by Scottrf on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 2:29 pm

munkian wrote:
Scottrf wrote:Doubt there is anyone better at the breakdown in the AP?

Saints will soon ruin that.

I'm sure.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 3:22 pm

On the planet...bar perhaps Pocock.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by nathan on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 5:42 pm

Apparently Jimmy Stevens (from Nottingham) will be heading back to Tigers to fill Thackers place.

I wish Tigers would have a couple years of hurt and develop the younger guys and start the conveyor belt of talent again.

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Post by SirBurger on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 8:23 pm

nathan wrote:Apparently Jimmy Stevens (from Nottingham) will be heading back to Tigers to fill Thackers place.

I wish Tigers would have a couple years of hurt and develop the younger guys and start the conveyor belt of talent again.

Wow. Unless he has come on leaps at Nottingham that is a big step down. He was very average at Irish.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by formerly known as Sam on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 9:11 pm

SirBurger wrote:
nathan wrote:Apparently Jimmy Stevens (from Nottingham) will be heading back to Tigers to fill Thackers place.

I wish Tigers would have a couple years of hurt and develop the younger guys and start the conveyor belt of talent again.

Wow. Unless he has come on leaps at Nottingham that is a big step down. He was very average at Irish.

Yep it's a pretty poor trade off. In theory we've got some good young guys coming through and Stevens will just hold the fort whilst they develop. As MOC is the coach he'll remain third choice irrelevant of the form of the young players right up to when the young lads get annoyed and leave so we'll keep him longer and then we'll see TPN and Youngs looking at retirement with no successors of quality so we'll end trying to splash in a crowded market and sign some journeymen at great cost.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by propdavid_london on Tue 23 Jan 2018, 8:48 am

Not sure if it was mentioned earlier - sure I heard over the weekends game Stuart Barnes saying that Charlie Matthews was off to Wasps.

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Tue 23 Jan 2018, 10:21 am

propdavid_london wrote:Not sure if it was mentioned earlier - sure I heard over the weekends game Stuart Barnes saying that Charlie Matthews was off to Wasps.

Symons going the the way.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Tue 23 Jan 2018, 5:04 pm

At the mo Matthews is playing well Sad
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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by mid_gen on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 9:37 am

Not sad to see him go. The occasional decent game but prone to stupid decisions and not nearly powerful or aggressive enough. Rubbish hands.

Needs a coach to kick him up the backside as he has the physical foundation to be a great lock.

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Post by propdavid_london on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 10:15 am

Agree with mid_gen. He will have the occasional good game (did do well when he came on early last weekend).
But for his size he isn't half as effective as he could be in the loose.

I don't have the stats but our lineout (I know most of our hookers cant hit a barn door) should be so much better with a bean pole in their side! We seem to turn over a lot of possession there, especially at crucial phases.

I just think a fresh start would be good for him and give us the opportunity to get someone hungrier.

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Post by LondonTiger on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 10:57 am

Joining Wasps after being shown the door at Quins certainly helped Launchbury Run

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Post by propdavid_london on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 12:10 pm

Dropped from the academy at 18 (according to t'internet). Yup, lost out there.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Welly on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 3:57 pm

Stevens signing makes sense IMHO.
(Thacker + MacGuigan) - (Mahoney + Stevens) = 5 hookers and maybe a top player somewhere.

Hooker isn't an issue currently, and if it means the cap from those two and be put into signing a very good lock or Back rower or even centre then it's the right move for us.



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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by formerly known as Sam on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 4:23 pm

Welly wrote: Stevens signing makes sense IMHO.
(Thacker + MacGuigan) - (Mahoney + Stevens) = 5 hookers and maybe a top player somewhere.

Hooker isn't an issue currently, and if it means the cap from those two and be put into signing a very good lock or Back rower or even centre then it's the right move for us.

McGuigan definitely off though? He was linked with Bristol and has vanished from view with us. If he does indeed leave then Stevens makes sense as experienced cover. My only doubts are over our head coaches ability to find the young guns at 4th and 5th choice enough game time to develop them.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 25 Jan 2018, 1:50 pm

Josh Bassett signs a new deal with Wasps.....not off to Saints then.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by Scottrf on Thu 25 Jan 2018, 1:57 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Josh Bassett signs a new deal with Wasps.....not off to Saints then.

Heem is the new Saints rumour.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by propdavid_london on Thu 25 Jan 2018, 2:31 pm

Replacement for North then I suppose!
Heem has looked pretty good for Warriors - any news on their funding? Weren't they looking for investors a while ago?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 25 Jan 2018, 4:53 pm

Strettle signs for Sarries

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by No 7&1/2 on Thu 25 Jan 2018, 5:58 pm

Wonder is earle or this happened first. They do seem more willing to give a run to their forwards before backs.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by mikey_dragon on Fri 26 Jan 2018, 12:47 am

Scottrf wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Josh Bassett signs a new deal with Wasps.....not off to Saints then.

Heem is the new Saints rumour.

Try not to ruin Biggar while you're at it. Better yet rip up his contract so he can stay with a better team in Wales.

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Re: Silly Season Transfer Rumours 17/18

Post by yappysnap on Fri 26 Jan 2018, 2:21 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:Wonder is earle or this happened first. They do seem more willing to give a run to their forwards before backs.

Earles rumour started at the beginning of the season with people linking him to a move to the club following his mate Morris who's apparently gone very well at Quin's.

Strettle seems later then that

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