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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 16 Aug 2017, 3:41 pm

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Assault rifle.

That is not self-defence.

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Post by Scottrf on Tue 12 Sep 2017, 8:49 am

Gwlad wrote:While I appreciate you think you have a really good understanding of KJU for whatever reason, you also support Trump so I don't think your advice is worth much.

This is getting boring.

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Post by Pal Joey on Tue 12 Sep 2017, 8:50 am

Gwlad wrote:While I appreciate you think you have a really good understanding of KJU for whatever reason, you also support Trump so I don't think your advice is worth much.

I don't think he supports Trump. He's just saying he got where he is due to a culmination and convergence of a number of critical factors which all lined up at the right time for him. Doesn't mean he loves the guy... but maybe there is some form of respect for the sheer gumption he has shown in achieving what he has... by wealth, stealth or whatever.
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Post by mikey_dragon on Tue 12 Sep 2017, 8:55 am

Scottrf wrote:
Gwlad wrote:While I appreciate you think you have a really good understanding of KJU for whatever reason, you also support Trump so I don't think your advice is worth much.

This is getting boring.

Very boring.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Tue 12 Sep 2017, 9:32 am

Gwlad wrote:While I appreciate you think you have a really good understanding of KJU for whatever reason, you also support Trump so I don't think your advice is worth much.
What part of the previous request to moderate your posting behaviour didn't you understand?

You clearly have some interesting things to say, but if you can only mash them into personal attacks every time you post, then you're going to have some time to re-assess your approach during a period away from here.
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Post by Gwlad on Tue 19 Sep 2017, 5:14 pm

Trump states he will destroy PRK if KJU threatens USA....so reassuring, now I understand why the rest of us are supposed to just chill while he brings the world to the brink.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Tue 19 Sep 2017, 5:25 pm

Hopefully not before the next Olympics...Always fun watching those North Korean weightlifting girls doing the clean and press.

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Post by Gwlad on Tue 19 Sep 2017, 6:15 pm

I thought it was clean and jerk.

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Post by Gwlad on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 4:51 pm

Watch Netanyahu at UN.... grinning like the guy who knows the idiot on the podium is going to fire it up in Iran. This is no statesman, no leader....he's as thick as he is stupid. Meanwhile Trump's COS shows the world his despair with who is really in charge of our nuclear future.

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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 5:17 pm

Iran hasn't invaded anybody in over 400 years. The USA, however....

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Post by navyblueshorts on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 5:30 pm

Gwlad wrote:Watch Netanyahu at UN.... grinning like the guy who knows the idiot on the podium is going to fire it up in Iran. This is no statesman, no leader....he's as thick as he is stupid. Meanwhile Trump's COS shows the world his despair with who is really in charge of our nuclear future.
Netanyahu's an arse, but he knows no other way. I understand his and his ilk's take on things, but it doesn't solve a thing.
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Post by navyblueshorts on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 5:32 pm

Pr4wn wrote:Iran hasn't invaded anybody in over 400 years. The USA, however....
To be fair, Iran has done enough naughty business over the last ~40 years by proxy and by funding what most would call terrorist groups.
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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 5:40 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:Iran hasn't invaded anybody in over 400 years. The USA, however....
To be fair, Iran has done enough naughty business over the last ~40 years by proxy and by funding what most would call terrorist groups.

Care to back that up? My understanding was that most of the Islamic terrorism was Sunni extremism with Iran being a mostly Shia country. Iran is a beacon of peace when compared to Saudi Arabia.

For Donald Trump to label Iran a rogue state when the USA has invaded multiple states just in the last 20 years is a bit rich, in my opinion.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 6:11 pm

Read about the IRGC.............

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 6:17 pm

Pr4wn wrote:Iran hasn't invaded anybody in over 400 years. The USA, however....

Coming from a Brit... Rolling Eyes

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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 6:29 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:Iran hasn't invaded anybody in over 400 years. The USA, however....

Coming from a Brit... Rolling Eyes

What's that got to do with anything? Headscratch Headscratch

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 6:39 pm

Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:Iran hasn't invaded anybody in over 400 years. The USA, however....

Coming from a Brit... Rolling Eyes

What's that got to do with anything? Headscratch Headscratch

Not sure anyone from Britain should moan about another Country's invasion record do you ??

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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 6:51 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:Iran hasn't invaded anybody in over 400 years. The USA, however....

Coming from a Brit... Rolling Eyes

What's that got to do with anything? Headscratch Headscratch

Not sure anyone from Britain should moan about another Country's invasion record do you ??

Let me get this straight. Because I'm from Great Britain (more specifically Jersey, who has never invaded anyone), I'm not allowed to comment on your tangerine man-crush's hypocrisy and saber-rattling?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 7:00 pm

Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:Iran hasn't invaded anybody in over 400 years. The USA, however....

Coming from a Brit... Rolling Eyes

What's that got to do with anything? Headscratch Headscratch

Not sure anyone from Britain should moan about another Country's invasion record do you ??

Let me get this straight. Because I'm from Great Britain (more specifically Jersey, who has never invaded anyone), I'm not allowed to comment on your tangerine man-crush's hypocrisy and saber-rattling?

I agree he is a poor President...Just think moaning about other Countries invasion records is a little bit rich coming from Britain...Who has invaded more than anyone.

Surely anyone as intelligent as you can see that.



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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 7:42 pm

I haven't invaded anyone. Where I was born is completely irrelevant. Surely anyone as intell...... never mind.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 8:00 pm

No I never suggested you had invaded anyone..

You're hard work mate.

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Post by Gwlad on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 8:37 pm

Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:Iran hasn't invaded anybody in over 400 years. The USA, however....

Coming from a Brit... Rolling Eyes

What's that got to do with anything? Headscratch Headscratch

Not sure anyone from Britain should moan about another Country's invasion record do you ??

Let me get this straight. Because I'm from Great Britain (more specifically Jersey, who has never invaded anyone), I'm not allowed to comment on your tangerine man-crush's hypocrisy and saber-rattling?

he's more marigold than tangerine to be fair

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Post by Gwlad on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 8:41 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:Iran hasn't invaded anybody in over 400 years. The USA, however....

Coming from a Brit... Rolling Eyes

What's that got to do with anything? Headscratch Headscratch

Not sure anyone from Britain should moan about another Country's invasion record do you ??

Let me get this straight. Because I'm from Great Britain (more specifically Jersey, who has never invaded anyone), I'm not allowed to comment on your tangerine man-crush's hypocrisy and saber-rattling?

I agree he is a poor President...Just think moaning about other Countries invasion records is a little bit rich coming from Britain...Who has invaded more than anyone.

Surely anyone as intelligent as you can see that.



it didnt come 'from Britain' it came from someone who lives in Jersey i.e. a person. Try not hijacking the debate with personal posturing.

America's recent history is about invasion, either culturally, politically or militarily. And lets not forget its greatest export since the 50s has been subversive CIA supported regime change. Since it used to bang on about being isolationist one wonders why....clearly it likes and needs all the filthy lucre that wars bring to its over inflated armed forces which need war to survive. Make America GAG. thumbsup

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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 20 Sep 2017, 8:42 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:No I never suggested you had invaded anyone..

You're hard work mate.

Then please explain how my country of birth has any bearing on my ability to scrutinise US foreign policy? It's a very bizarre argument, even by your standards.

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Post by Gwlad on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 5:09 am

Does the US have a foreign policy...or does it just have an America First policy. Amazing place to make that statement, in the hall of the UN.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 9:16 am

Pr4wn wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:Iran hasn't invaded anybody in over 400 years. The USA, however....
To be fair, Iran has done enough naughty business over the last ~40 years by proxy and by funding what most would call terrorist groups.

Care to back that up? My understanding was that most of the Islamic terrorism was Sunni extremism with Iran being a mostly Shia country. Iran is a beacon of peace when compared to Saudi Arabia.

For Donald Trump to label Iran a rogue state when the USA has invaded multiple states just in the last 20 years is a bit rich, in my opinion.
Oh come on. Hezbollah for one. Iran aren't angels, but just so you don't jump on me again, neither are the U.S. Anything but.
Where does Saudi Arabia come into this? We weren't discussing them.
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Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 9:20 am

Gwlad wrote:Does the US have a foreign policy...or does it just have an America First policy. Amazing place to make that statement, in the hall of the UN.
Impressive that speech, wasn't it? Nope. An interesting take on it:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/09/trump-united-nations-iran-jcpoa-north-korea/540501/

Who was it said something like "Better to keep quiet and have people think you're an idiot, than open your mouth and confirm it beyond all doubt"??
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 9:29 am

GDP Growth rate.......last Quarter...

US 3%
UK 0.3%

Unemployment down to 4.3%......9.5% in France.

Bet Obama wished he saw figures like that..

Napoleon said...."I don't want a good General......I want a lucky one !!"

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Post by LionsV2 on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 9:38 am

Meaningless figures at this moment, if it carries on for the full term then bring them up.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 11:30 am

How can the stock market hitting 22,000 and thousands of people in jobs be meaningless..

Give me a break..

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Post by LionsV2 on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 11:39 am

Sustainable growth is meaningful, sharp rises can often lead to even sharper falls.

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Post by Scottrf on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 11:42 am

LionsV2 wrote:Sustainable growth is meaningful, sharp rises can often lead to even sharper falls.

Maybe in the stock market but I've never heard that theory for employment.

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Post by LionsV2 on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 11:47 am

It was the stock market I was talking about, unemployment figures are a minefield in general.

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Post by Pr4wn on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 1:48 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:How can the stock market hitting 22,000 and thousands of people in jobs be meaningless..

Give me a break..

It is meaningless in the context of Trump doing a good job.

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Post by Scottrf on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 2:00 pm

Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:How can the stock market hitting 22,000 and thousands of people in jobs be meaningless..

Give me a break..

It is meaningless in the context of Trump doing a good job.

Yet people blame the government when the economy is bad or there are no jobs.

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Post by Pr4wn on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 2:14 pm

All depends, doesn't it? With Obama, things were grim in the year after he took over because of GWB and his disastrous presidency. But Obama turned things around and now rump is reaping the benefits.

Remember, Trump hasn't really accomplished anything in terms of landmark legislation yet.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 2:19 pm

Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:How can the stock market hitting 22,000 and thousands of people in jobs be meaningless..

Give me a break..

It is meaningless in the context of Trump doing a good job.

All Presidents own their economy.....

Bill Clinton "It is the Economy stupid"............

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Post by Pr4wn on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 2:38 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:How can the stock market hitting 22,000 and thousands of people in jobs be meaningless..

Give me a break..

It is meaningless in the context of Trump doing a good job.

All Presidents own their economy.....

Bill Clinton "It is the Economy stupid"............

That literally adds nothing to the debate.

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Post by LionsV2 on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 2:46 pm

These things don't tend to happen overnight so giving Trump the credit seems a bit foolish, lets see what the outlook is like in 2021.

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 3:18 pm

2021? Wow. I think there needs to be ongoing monitoring.  OK

Growth is good, jobs growth is also good. The ever increasing Dow not so good. Don't want a bubble type situation like what happened to Japan when their index went a little too bullish and their economic floor collapsed beneath them.

He just has to keep on going and we all have to endure the theatre of it all. I must say it is more interesting to see it occur as we speak.
I'm sure all of those undiplomatic faux pas are deliberately planned and scripted.

This is great guys... a real life soap opera, bigger than JR... with the threat of some sort of nasty conflict nobody wants.
I'd rather have someone like Trump (v. Hillary) call the bluffs on the international scene, thanks.
I reckon that's one of the things he is really good at! Cringy though it can be.
He at least does come across as a 'strong' as opposed to a timid leader, one might say.

I agree with the plan of rebuilding infrastructure (America first of course) and using his business development contacts to initiate urban renewal and organise new manufacturing for once thriving rust belt cities in many states. That would be a great achievement. I really do hope he is successful.


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 3:22 pm

Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:How can the stock market hitting 22,000 and thousands of people in jobs be meaningless..

Give me a break..

It is meaningless in the context of Trump doing a good job.

All Presidents own their economy.....

Bill Clinton "It is the Economy stupid"............

That literally adds nothing to the debate.

From a guy that just makes statements all the time.


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 3:24 pm

LionsV2 wrote:These things don't tend to happen overnight so giving Trump the credit seems a bit foolish, lets see what the outlook is like in 2021.

I haven't given him credit........But as soon as he became President....there was an upturn.......Perhaps because a businessman was in charge.

Who knows..

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 3:29 pm

The Loaded Dog wrote:2021? Wow. I think there needs to be ongoing monitoring.  OK

Growth is good, jobs growth is also good. The ever increasing Dow not so good. Don't want a bubble type situation like what happened to Japan when their index went a little too bullish and their economic floor collapsed beneath them.

He just has to keep on going and we all have to endure the theatre of it all. I must say it is more interesting to see it occur as we speak.
I'm sure all of those undiplomatic faux pas are deliberately planned and scripted.

This is great guys... a real life soap opera, bigger than JR... with the threat of some sort of nasty conflict nobody wants.
I'd rather have someone like Trump (v. Hillary) call the bluffs on the international scene, thanks.
I reckon that's one of the things he is really good at! Cringy though it can be.
He at least does come across as a 'strong' as opposed to a timid leader, one might say.

I agree with the plan of rebuilding infrastructure (America first of course) and using his business development contacts to initiate urban renewal and organise new manufacturing for once thriving rust belt cities in many states. That would be a great achievement. I really do hope he is successful.

Could have voted for Bernie or any other Democrat......not for Hilary though.....Hypocrisy, Corruption, Entitlement personified.

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 3:38 pm

Imagine Bernie v Kim Jong-Un? Would be interesting too! Laugh
Hillary looks so dishevelled now... but I saw some airbrushed 'image' of her putting on a brave face recently.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 3:44 pm

She has just written a book on why she lost the election...

Sanders, Obama, Biden, the Russians, Trump and naughty white misogynists were all too blame...Despite 50% of white women voting for Trump.

Bless her.

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 3:55 pm

That's right... everyone else to blame. My God that shock loss must have knocked her hard.

She's seeking solace in religion now I hear. Light them candles... and dream... what could have been...
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 4:06 pm

The Loaded Dog wrote:That's right... everyone else to blame. My God that shock loss must have knocked her hard.

She's seeking solace in religion now I hear. Light them candles... and dream... what could have been...

Give it two weeks and God will be a misogynist.. angel

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Post by Gwlad on Thu 21 Sep 2017, 4:23 pm

Clinton had a millennial sense of entitlement which was largely based on her being a woman...not her qualities for the role. She thought that after Obama America was ready for another groundbreaking President, her 90% fan base in NY embellished that. But, fact is Obama led to this backlash and to the moron we now have teeing up a worldwide nuclear conflict. Happy Days.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Fri 22 Sep 2017, 10:17 am

Gwlad wrote:Clinton had a millennial sense of entitlement which was largely based on her being a woman...not her qualities for the role. She thought that after Obama America was ready for another groundbreaking President, her 90% fan base in NY embellished that. But, fact is Obama led to this backlash and to the moron we now have teeing up a worldwide nuclear conflict. Happy Days.
Obama only led to this if you're an idiot and by the simple fact he was the immediate predecessor of this child. HC is clearly a capable woman and, yes, there was lot of stench called 'misogyny' during the campaign along with some of Fart's 'fake news' that the gullible lapped up with abandon. It's quite funny that people are having a go at HC, as if it's her fault America has this childish fool as C-in-C. You get the leaders you deserve...
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Post by navyblueshorts on Fri 22 Sep 2017, 10:18 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
The Loaded Dog wrote:That's right... everyone else to blame. My God that shock loss must have knocked her hard.

She's seeking solace in religion now I hear. Light them candles... and dream... what could have been...

Give it two weeks and God will be a misogynist.. angel
Why wouldn't He be? He's always portrayed as a man and have you read the Bible etc???
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 22 Sep 2017, 10:30 am

navyblueshorts wrote:
Gwlad wrote:Clinton had a millennial sense of entitlement which was largely based on her being a woman...not her qualities for the role. She thought that after Obama America was ready for another groundbreaking President, her 90% fan base in NY embellished that. But, fact is Obama led to this backlash and to the moron we now have teeing up a worldwide nuclear conflict. Happy Days.
Obama only led to this if you're an idiot and by the simple fact he was the immediate predecessor of this child. HC is clearly a capable woman and, yes, there was lot of stench called 'misogyny' during the campaign along with some of Fart's 'fake news' that the gullible lapped up with abandon. It's quite funny that people are having a go at HC, as if it's her fault America has this childish fool as C-in-C. You get the leaders you deserve...

You don't think if she had bothered campaigning in States like Michigan instead of taking them for granted she might have had a better chance...

You can find it as funny as you like but Clinton was so useless....Trump won..............Just like Labour would have a new leader now if Cameron had fought GE17.

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