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Australia in Bangladesh 2017

Post by msp83 on Thu 24 Aug 2017, 8:20 pm

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The tour was originally to happen 3 years ago is finally here as Australia and Bangladesh the 2 test series tomorrow.
Bangladesh have been steadily improving in test cricket and can give any opposition a tough fight at home. They had a couple of notable wins last season, against England at home, and against Sri Lanka in their own backyard. Even a much weaker Bangladesh had given a much stronger Australia a serious challenge when the Australians came calling way back in 2006. With Bangladesh having become a much better side and Australia not at their best, this would hopefully be an interesting enough series.
Australia very much go in as favorits, but Bangladesh hopefully won't be pushed over.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 8:17 am

Lyon goes with Australia needing 36 to win...Bangladesh favourites from here!

Matthew Wade must be one of the worst keeper batsmen in test cricket
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Post by alfie on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 8:27 am

Two sixes in an over Shocked

Cummins on the charge...

21 to go

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Post by sirfredperry on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 8:34 am

All over. B'desh have won!

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Post by Duty281 on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 8:35 am

Cummings was brave, but he runs out of partners.

A famous victory for Bangladesh. Australia's dismal run in Asia continues.

Well done Bangladesh. clap

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 8:37 am

Magnificent Bangladesh! A great victory for a team on the rise...

And well played Australia too - that chase was a lot tighter than I thought it would be.

Such a shame no TV companies in the UK picked up this series
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Post by KP_fan on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 8:42 am

close win for BD...but they were always marginally ahead although they should have won more comprehensively had they not squandered many times positions of strength.

Had BD lost the toss then with this much of application ( or lack of it) they would have lost
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Post by KO-KING on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 8:47 am

Link was on YouTube BTW...

Anyway great performance by both teams... Test cricket is dead?

Last I checked we got two thrillers back to back

Pitch wasn't as bad as the one vs us, but apparently it's been relaid completely, so it doesn't become dusty or spitting until day 3/4, still not turning square, very bouncy pitch... You think Aus must have liked that

There was turn but occasional at the start, good seam off the wicket especially on first day, bowlers definitely had the advantage

But both bd and Aus underperformed first innings, it was a 300 pitch first couple of innings

Tamim what a star 150+
Warner what a man, 100 when seemingly out of his depth in Asia
Cummins left them 10/3, batted strong
Lyon got his just rewards for hard work
Shakib, what a player

Can't lie disappointed England lost, although it was 'good' test cricket, but I like upsets and especially ones vs australia, so this makes up for it...

The amount of bs you see on TV, but not this

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Post by alfie on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 8:59 am

Congrats to Bangladesh clap

Been a great couple of days for the "Minnows" devil

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Post by KP_fan on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 11:42 am

this was BD's first ever win in tests over Aus
they beat Eng, NZ and Aus in a matter of less than 12 months   clap clap

although the win is on spinning ptiches, this will grow test match cricket in their country....and then their fans will push them to endevour to win overseas also
this is how Ind and Lanka developed their test cricket.

On Current Form BD is better than Lanka
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Post by alfie on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 12:35 pm

Before yesterday , I'd have said better thanWest Indies...

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 1:22 pm

King Shakib of Bangladesh the greatest cricketer in their history. Probably put to bed and debate as to whom is the premier all rounder in World cricket. Simply incredible player. Congrats Tigers. Hard luck Aussies.

With Hazlewood injured Australia could be more aggressive for the second Test. Khawaja should be panned as he's hopeless against spin. Move everyone up one. Get Cartwright in as the seam bowling all rounder. Play O'Keefe for hazlewood.

1. Warner
2. Renshaw
3. Smith
4. Handscombe
5. Cartwright
6. Maxwell
7. Wade
8. Agar
9. Cummins
10. Lyon
11. O'Keefe

Light on seam bowlers but 3 genuine spinners. Maxwell needs to be true to himself. Either be his natural self or give up on his Test dream of an Ashes series.

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Post by KP_fan on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 1:32 pm

True Khwaja.....doesn't look like making it
his spot should go to a proper batsman and not an allrounder
Maxwell is the "batting allrounder" at No. 6
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 1:39 pm

Bangladesh should also drop Shafiul Islam for either a spinning all rounder (ie Mahmudullah or Mosaddek) or a true batsman (Moninul)
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Post by alfie on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 11:26 pm

Don't think Cartwright is a Test five. But with all the bowlers who can bat it might be the best they can do...If they did pick that XI I would bat Maxwell at five and consider moving Agar up...

Nah that really won't do : KP_fan is right ...need a proper batsman. Therein lies the problem...

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 8:26 am

Second test has began in Chittagong. Australia axed Khawaja and Hazlewood is obviously injured. Cartwright and O'Keefe came into the playing XI. The tigers also recalled Momimal

Currently 100/4. Lyon has taken all 4 wickets and all LBWs

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 8:37 am

Bangladesh are 108-4 on the first day - all the wickets falling to Nathan Lyon so far
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 9:50 am

155-5 at tea

Aussies on top so far id say - commentary saying the pitch isn't turning much yet, so you'd think Bangladesh will need a score of 250-300 to be in the game
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 11:08 am

The Banglas have pushed onto 213-5

Crucial period with the new ball coming up - if Sabbir/Mushfiqur can see it off Bangladesh will be in commanding position
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Post by KO-KING on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 12:08 pm

Saw bit of the last session, pitch isn't turning, it's not a road, but certainly a par 350 pitch, especially for the first innings, day 2 will be excellent for batting in my opinion and it'll start taking turn from day 3 I reckon

Sabbir stumping was iffy at best, certainly should have got benefit of doubt

Bangladesh took final session but Australia definitely on top.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 12:10 pm

253-6 - Bangladesh fought back well but just Australia's day for me. Bangladesh are at least in the game now, at one point a score of 200 looked a long way off...if they can make 300-350 they're in with a good chance. At the very least they've eaten up time in the game...
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Post by KP_fan on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 12:22 pm

From the positions that BD were in...they have gotten away
they will get to 300 atleast and given that Aus has to bat 4th.......it's already looking very difficult for Aus.....unless the have a super first inning.

they are playing a lot of batsmen and batting allrounders and bowling allrounders....considering Cummins will come at No. 11...thats a lot of depth  in batting Shocked

So it will be a close test match in my view and an interesting one too
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Post by Duty281 on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 3:34 pm

With Australia batting last, it already looks like a 2-0 win for Bangladesh is assured.

Not that the bookmakers are aware; they're still offering 6/5 on a home win.

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Post by alfie on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 1:10 am

Duty281 wrote:With Australia batting last, it already looks like a 2-0 win for Bangladesh is assured.

Not that the bookmakers are aware; they're still offering 6/5 on a home win.

Pitch played pretty easy first day though , Duty - and locals were saying it won't turn a lot for a while yet ; so theoretically Australia may still get the home team out for a less than par total and go on to post a lead.

Of course , given most Australian batting efforts in the subcontinent recently that still looks a stretch...I think those odds will not last.

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Post by KP_fan on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 7:19 am

They get to 300 BD....
and now Aus, playing with batting down to No.11 have to show resolve and get 400+ to go ahead in the game....even 325 would mean BD is ahead given the 4th inning factor
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 7:27 am

KP_fan wrote:They get to 300 BD....
and now Aus, playing with batting down to No.11 have to show resolve and get 400+ to go ahead in the game....even 325 would mean BD is ahead given the 4th inning factor

Not a great start as they lose Renshaw in the 4 overs before lunch
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 9:27 am

98-2 as Taijul breaks the dangerous Warner/Smith partnership by bowling Smith first ball for 58
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Post by KO-KING on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 10:49 am

Handscomb gets a tad lucky with a lbw drs decision I reckon, I guess benefit goes to batsman.. This time anyway for Aleem Dar

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 12:39 pm

Australia ended day 2 - 225/2. Warner 88* and Handscombe 69*. If Australia can get up to 450 odd its probably curtains for the Tigers. Never thought I'd see the day where Warner used brains over brawn but its certainly happening in Chittagong.

How someone like Nathan Lyon has 3x7 WH and 1x8 WH in test cricket is beyond me. Such a limited bowler.

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Post by LionsV2 on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 12:57 pm

Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:
How someone like Nathan Lyon has 3x7 WH and 1x8 WH in test cricket is beyond me. Such a limited bowler.

Maybe it's more that you don't understand spin bowling.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 12:59 pm

LionsV2 wrote:
Nathaniel Jacobs wrote:
How someone like Nathan Lyon has 3x7 WH and 1x8 WH in test cricket is beyond me. Such a limited bowler.

Maybe it's more that you don't understand spin bowling.
Run along Hammersmith Harrier. Getting banned on your first account and making another just shows your desperation fulfil your empty life.

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Post by LionsV2 on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 1:02 pm

Unable to debate the point then, spin bowling seems to be a big blind spot of yours and contributes to your overly harsh apraisals of certain bowlers. 260 wickets at around 32 doesn't suggest a limited bowler.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 1:04 pm

LionsV2 wrote:Unable to debate the point then, spin bowling seems to be a big blind spot of yours and contributes to your overly harsh apraisals of certain bowlers. 260 wickets at around 32 doesn't suggest a limited bowler.
Hammersmith you got banned run along. Go glory hunt Manchester United like you Londoners like to do.

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Post by LionsV2 on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 1:16 pm

Not got anything to add then?

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Post by wisden on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 3:03 pm

jesus christ this site is descending into chaos, if gonna offer up a highly controversial point, need to back it up, otherwise whats the point of saying it...even if can't justify it at least give your own explantion

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Post by VTR on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 3:03 pm

Nathaniel's comments are pretty immature for someone who is 80 years old at the very least. I suppose when you've seen all the spinners since the war, Lyon might not be quite up there with the greats of the game. He is pretty good though and probably the best spinner playing for any of the non subcontinental Test teams.

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Post by wisden on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 3:06 pm

Lyon is a good spin bowler, with a good record, 260 wickets at 32, is a good effort and certainly one of the best spinners in the world right now

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Post by LionsV2 on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 3:07 pm

VTR wrote:Nathaniel's comments are pretty immature for someone who is 80 years old at the very least. I suppose when you've seen all the spinners since the war, Lyon might not be quite up there with the greats of the game. He is pretty good though and probably the best spinner playing for any of the non subcontinental Test teams.

I fully agree, there seems to be a dismissal of Lyon and Ali because they're not Shane Warne or even Graeme Swann but both are fully capable of producing solid performances.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 3:16 pm

LionsV2 wrote:
VTR wrote:Nathaniel's comments are pretty immature for someone who is 80 years old at the very least. I suppose when you've seen all the spinners since the war, Lyon might not be quite up there with the greats of the game. He is pretty good though and probably the best spinner playing for any of the non subcontinental Test teams.

I fully agree, there seems to be a dismissal of Lyon and Ali because they're not Shane Warne or even Graeme Swann but both are fully capable of producing solid performances.

The only off spinners in test history with a better strike rate than Lyon are Murali, Swann and Ashwin (min 200 test wickets)
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Post by LionsV2 on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 3:30 pm

The third best off spinner in history then, people tend to forget how difficult it can be to excel outside of the sub continent.

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Post by wisden on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 3:32 pm

Also difficult to excel on the sub continent...Sub continent players tradtionally play spin well, so taking wickets on those pitches isn't a given either..

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Post by KP_fan on Tue 05 Sep 2017, 9:19 pm

Nathan Lyon is a very good spinner.....not among the list of games greatest
but a very good spinner ...a clean classical offspinner
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Post by alfie on Wed 06 Sep 2017, 6:21 am

Day three and that rain has arrived with a vengeance Sad

Not looking good at the moment.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 06 Sep 2017, 9:58 am

Australia bring up their 300 only 4 wickets down - a real chance for them to make 500+ and bat Bangladesh out the game here...
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Post by alfie on Wed 06 Sep 2017, 10:55 am

When the rain relented Australia used the session well to get in front and threatened to run away with things ...but the late wicket of Cartwright has ensured they are not yet out of sight.
Certainly have the edge now ; but the three wickets that fell mean Bangladesh are just about hanging in...

This session could see the tourists take an unassailable grip.  Bangladesh really need a clatter of wickets . They might fancy their chances with Wade...


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 06 Sep 2017, 11:24 am

Maxwell playing a responsible innings here - what a time to be alive
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 06 Sep 2017, 11:34 am

Bangladesh get Wade - Aus lead is 37 with 4 wickets left. If the Banglas can restrict them to a lead of under 100 they're still in with a shout, with Australia batting last
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Post by alfie on Wed 06 Sep 2017, 11:35 am

Wade held it up for a while but he's gone for 8...hardly enough to shore up his position.(Though in fairness he did some good work with the gloves in this match.)
Six down and 37 ahead. Agar likes to play his shots : a handy knock from him now could take this right away from the locals...

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Post by alfie on Wed 06 Sep 2017, 11:38 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Bangladesh get Wade - Aus lead is 37 with 4 wickets left. If the Banglas can restrict them to a lead of under 100 they're still in with a shout, with Australia batting last

They'd need to bat better than the first innings. Even eighty or so ahead would put a lot of pressure on them with Lyon seemingly the only bowler on either side who likes bowling on this.

Maxwell out now ? Yes...

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Post by alfie on Wed 06 Sep 2017, 11:42 am

...getting interesting. Australia would like a frisky Agar/Cummins stand of fifty or so now...

That was a nicely taken low grab from the keeper clap Wonder why Maxwell reviewed that ? Was a clear inside edge.

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Post by alfie on Wed 06 Sep 2017, 11:55 am

Very bad leave by Cummins ! Lbw not playing a shot and this lead may not be so large after all...

Wonder what support O'Keefe and Lyon can give their spin colleague ?

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