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Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by wayne on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 9:27 pm

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This is not an exact replica of what is on our website, and unlike last season cannot give exact years left on contract, as some that have been reviewed length of contract have not been given. Games in 2018 are given in order, but as there are 3 dates, will not put any, until exact dates are given.
Head Coach Steve Tandy
Backs Coach Gruff Rees
Forwards Coach Allen Clarke
Defence Coach Brad Davis

Players: Cory Allen, Dmitri Arhip, Lloyd Ashley, Dan Baker, Jay Baker*, Scott Baldwin, Adam Beard, Ashley Beck, Dan Biggar, Olly Cracknell, Bradley Davies, Sam Davies, Hanno Dirksen, Dan Evans, Ma'afu Fia, Kieron Fonotia, Keelan Giles, Hugh Gustafson, Tom Habberfield, Jeff Hassler, James Hook, Dafydd Howells, Paul James, Ben John, AW Jones, Rhodri Jones, James King, Brendon Leonard, Dan Lydiate, Rob McCusker, Brian Mujati, Scott Otten, Sam Parry, Luke Price*, Nicky Smith, Gareth Thomas, Joe Thomas*, Rory Thornton, Justin Tipuric, Eli Walker, Owen Watkin, Rhys Webb.
The players with asterisks are not in the squad according to the website
11/8 Leicester Tigers           H                           L                     14-21                  Friendly  
20/8 Bath                          A                           L                     14-28                  Friendly
25/8 Leicester Tigers           A                           L                     14-40                  Friendly
2/9   Zebre                        H                                                                           GL
9/9  Glasgow Warriors          A                                                                           GL
16/9 Munster                     H                                                                           GL
22/9 Treviso                      A                                                                           GL
29/9 Cheetahs                   A                                                                           GL
7/10 Scarlets                     H                                                                           GL
15/10 Clermont Auv             H                                                                           RCC
21/10 Saracens                  A                                                                           RCC
27/10 Dragons                   H                                                                            GL
4/11 Edinburgh                   A                                                                            GL
10/11 Wasps                      H                                                                            AWC
17/18/19-11 Cardiff B          A                                                                            AWC
24/25/26-11 Glasgow W       H                                                                            GL
2/12 Munster                     A                                                                             GL
9/12 Northampton S            A                                                                            RCC
17/12 Northampton S          H                                                                            RCC
26/12 Scarlets                   A                                                                            GL
31/12 Dragons                   H                                                                             GL
       Cardiff B                   H                                                                             GL
       Saracens                  A                                                                             RCC
       Clermont Auv            H                                                                             RCC
       Gloucester                A                                                                             AWC
        Bath                      H                                                                              AWC
        Connacht                A                                                                              GL
        Southern Kings         H                                                                              GL
        Cheetahs                H                                                                              GL
        Zebre                     A                                                                              GL
        Leinster                  H                                                                              GL
        Connacht                H                                                                              GL
        Ulster                     A                                                                              GL
        Cardiff BL                A                                                                              GL
That squad has been so injury hit over the past 5 years or so, if we have the same sort of injury this next season, we will be back in RCC2 next season and nowhere near the playoffs, our 3 NWQ tight heads are at the moment not 100% fit even though 1 could make it for the first game. There is even talk of having Paul James filling in there.

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by wayne on Mon 09 Oct 2017, 4:34 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Wayne, I think you're wrong about 1/2p, if he had played then there would've been a fair chance you would have snuck the win IMO (we knew we couldn't rely on kicks so had to score tries, with him on we would've opted for the 3pts to put things closer).

The players have not turned into unskilled players over night, and there is plenty of talent in that squad.  Maybe a break from the league will do them some good, and same goes for the boys who are off to the welsh squad for the AIs.  We have seen it in the past when there have been players who have been looking out of sorts and then come back from the Welsh camp playing much better again (Think back end of Holleys reign) and kicked on in black.

Sorry SS, I don't agree, I know if any of the penalties had been kicked, the kick off would have been changed from the 22 to the halfway line, and possibly the game would have been totally different, but IMO we would still have conceded further up the field for LH to kick again. IIRC there was 11 points left out there, it might not have been 11 kicked but it would have been enough to stop us getting a LBP.

SS, I'm hoping and in actual fact it should be that we've very few in the AI squad, it might be the kick up the harris that they need.

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by ScarletSpiderman on Mon 09 Oct 2017, 8:27 pm

Wayne, you’re right it would be a serious hoof in the rump if Team Wales did leave a number of lads out. Toud certainly find out what kind of players they are. I was thinking more of the likes of AWJ, Biggar, Webb and Tips
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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by wayne on Fri 13 Oct 2017, 2:32 pm

Ospreys selected team v Clermont on Sunday 15/10/17 at the Liberty Stadium ko 17.30 is as follows
15 Dan Evans, 14 Keelan Giles, 13 Kieron Fonotia, 12 Owen Watkin, 11 Cory Allen, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Rhys Webb, 8 Dan Baker, 7 Justin Tipuric, 6 Dan Lydiate, 5 AWJ, 4 BBBD, 3 Dmitri Arhip, 2 Scott Otten and Nicky Smith with Sam Parry, Paul James, Ma'afu Fia, Lloyd Ashley, Olly Cracknell, Tom Habberfield, Sam Davies and James Hook on the bench, apart from TAFKNAAP on the bench, that is probably the strongest 23 we can put out at the moment. Oh to have had a decent Coaching team for the last couple of years.

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by wayne on Fri 20 Oct 2017, 1:43 pm

Ospreys team selected for the trip to Allianz Park in RCC 1 tomorrow evening is as follows
15 Dan Evans, 14 Jeff Hassler, 13 Kieron Fonotia, 12 Owen Watkin, 11 Cory Allen, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Tom Habberfield, 1 Nicky Smith, 2 Sam Parry, 3 Dmitri Arhip, 4 Adam Beard, 5 AWJ, 6 Dan Lydiate, 7 Justin Tipuric and 8 James King with Scott Baldwin, Paul James, Ma'afu Fia, Lloyd Ashley, Guy Mercer, Brendon Leonard, Sam Davies and James Hook on the bench.

Surprised with the omission of BBBD he's not down as injured, and we still persevere with Ashley on the bench, Webb hasn't recovered from last weeks injury, I think we'll miss both of our back row injured, Cracknell for his tackling and Baker his carrying, not really surprised that Giles is missing this one, Hassler is a better defender.

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by wayne Yesterday at 7:22 pm

Lydiate pulls out (back problem) Guy Mercer deputises, with Sam Cross Welsh and Olympic sevens player onto the bench. It is going from bad to worse.

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by lostinwales Yesterday at 8:16 pm

Well the game is not currently running to the prepared script

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by VinceWLB Yesterday at 9:08 pm

How was that a penalty try?

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by formerly known as Sam Yesterday at 9:19 pm

VinceWLB wrote:How was that a penalty try?

It's a deliberate knock on with no covering defenders. He doesn't slap down the pass then Sarries score in the corner.

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by VinceWLB Yesterday at 9:23 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:How was that a penalty try?

It's a deliberate knock on with no covering defenders. He doesn't slap down the pass then Sarries score in the corner.

There was cover actually.

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by VinceWLB Yesterday at 9:27 pm

How did Leonard manage to lose that ball at the scrum?

What a waste of NWQ spot.

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by formerly known as Sam Yesterday at 9:28 pm

VinceWLB wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:How was that a penalty try?

It's a deliberate knock on with no covering defenders. He doesn't slap down the pass then Sarries score in the corner.

There was cover actually.

That's not how the ref and the TMO saw it.

Ospreys doing really well to get on the outside of the Sarries rush defence. Unfortunately they look to be tiring in defence (understandably).

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by VinceWLB Yesterday at 9:31 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:How was that a penalty try?

It's a deliberate knock on with no covering defenders. He doesn't slap down the pass then Sarries score in the corner.

There was cover actually.

That's not how the ref and the TMO saw it.

Ospreys doing really well to get on the outside of the Sarries rush defence. Unfortunately they look to be tiring in defence (understandably).

They put in a huge shift against Clermont last week. They are logically tired. I'm surprised at how well their scrum has fared.

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by VinceWLB Yesterday at 9:35 pm

Sloppy defense from Saracens here.

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by VinceWLB Yesterday at 10:03 pm

Well, those last 2 games showed Ospreys are a very good and proud team and as has been the case for a few seasons now, they have played a very attractive, ambitious brand of rugby in Europe. Surely this will kick start their season domestically.. Watkin is going to be a superstar for sure..

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by formerly known as Sam Yesterday at 10:26 pm

Good team spirit to fight back and grab the two points. That's a real positive. Would have been easy for their heads to drop and no one would have blamed them for fading. That commitment to the cause is something they should be able to build on.

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by wayne Today at 10:51 am

Have to admit,that is probably the proudest I've ever felt for a performance by the Ospreys in adversity, since joining. Considering we had a backrower on the wing, a prop in the backrow and TAFKALP in his best position, at the end of the game, to frighten the European Champions in that manner speaks volumes for our commitment.
To have 2 International back rowers pull out in the last 12 hours (one during the warm up) and have to play a loan player and a Natural 7s players in their positions, and you wouldn't have noticed the drop off in class. Stand up and take a bow Guy Mercer and Sam Cross sterling efforts. As somebody else has said what a player Owen Watkin is and what he's hopefully going to be, if anybody is interested go and have a look at a clip of him on you tube against Glasgow the season before last. It really was a pity he missed all of the last League season.
If for a couple of individual errors, we could quite easily have won that game, it really pains me to say after his 2 tries, but if Dan Evans had been able to hang onto the ball and completed his hat trick and that waste of an NWQ player Brendon Leonard had got that ball out quicker when it was available we could have won that.

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by Heaf2 Today at 11:37 am

Excellent performance from Ospreys ...

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by wayne Today at 12:17 pm

Heaf2 wrote:Excellent performance from Ospreys ...

Heaf, I didn't want to complain about the decision, what did you think about the Penalty Try, and more to the point what did you think of the decision to show a view after the match, but not when the decision was relevant that Fonotia was coming around to tackle the player who was going to receive the ball if Dan Evans hadn't touched it. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it decided the outcome of the game, Dan Evans's dropping the ball and Leonard taking an age to get the ball out were things within our own control that could have won us this game, so don't think my complaint is sour grapes on my part, just want another viewpoint.
Thanks Wayne.

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Post by Heaf2 Today at 12:27 pm

I think it was a bit harsh tbh ... for sure YC and pen, but PT was questionable - the trouble is when players do that they open the door to the subjective calls from the officials.

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Post by Heaf2 Today at 12:28 pm

Have to say the lack of consistency is also an issue as I would have said the Zebo one last week was more a PT than that one ....

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Re: Ospreys 17/18 Season

Post by wayne Today at 5:48 pm

[quote="Heaf2"]I think it was a bit harsh tbh ... for sure YC and pen, but PT was questionable - the trouble is when players do that they open the door to the subjective calls from the officials.[/quote

Sorry for being so long coming back Heaf, it was my daughters birthday on Friday and the whole family went out for a Sunday meal, haven't been back long. Thanks for the reply, sorry but don't agree with your sanctions, a penalty yes, but if it was worth a YC it was a Penalty try, I don't think it was a definite try as Fonotia would have at least made contact, but as I said that wasn't the reason for our loss, it was down to our own errors that I've already quoted for you.
Thanks for the interest anyway.
All the best Wayne.

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