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Post by Hero on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 2:24 pm

I'm contemplating running a tournament in which 160 of the greatest musical artists of the past 100 years are pitted against each until eventually a winner is decided. It'd be run in group stages with the top two from each group progressing etc similar to other voting tournaments we've run on here.
Picking though the initial 160 musical acts is not an easy feat especially with the wide range of musical tastes, I'm limiting it to the last 100 years as I think it's a step too far to bring in the likes of Mozart etc. I need though your help in picking the 160 acts. Please check through the list below and let me know ones I've missed that you think should be included (with justification as to why) or ones that you think shouldn't be in there (and not just because you don't like them)

Cheers!

ABBA
AC/DC
Adele
Aerosmith
Al Green
Alanis Morrisette
Amy Winehouse
Arctic Monkeys
Aretha Franklin
Barry White
BB King
Beastie Boys
Beatles
Beyonce
Bill Haley & The Comets
Billie Holliday
Black Sabbath
Blondie
Blur
Bob Dylan
Bob Marley
Bon Jovi
Bruce Springsteen
Buddy Holly
Burt Bacharach
Carlos Santana
Cher
Chicago
Chuck Berry
Coldplay
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Curtis Mayfield
Daft Punk
David Bowie
Diana Ross & Supremes
Dire Straits
Dolly Parton
Donna Summer
Dr Dre (& NWA)
Duke Ellington
Duran Duran
Dusty Springfield
Eagles
Earth, Wind & Fire
Ed Sheeran
ELO
Elton John
Elvis Costello
Elvis Presley
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
Eminem
Eric Clapton (& Cream)
Fats Domino
Fleetwood Mac
Foo Fighters
Foreigner
Frank Sinatra
Frank Zappa
Garth Brooks
George Michael (& Wham)
Grateful Dead
Green Day
Guns n' Roses
INXS
Iron Maiden
James Brown
Janis Joplin
Jay Z
Jerry Lee Lewis
Jimi Hendrix
Johnny Cash
Joni Mitchell
Joy Division
Justin Bieber
Kanye West
Kate Bush
Kenny Rogers
Kiss
Kraftwerk
Led Zeppelin
Lionel Richie
Little Richard
Lou Reed (& The Velvet Underground)
Louis Armstrong
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Madonna
Mariah Carey
Marvin Gaye
Massive Attack
Metallica
Michael Jackson
Miles Davis
Muddy Waters
Muse
Neil Young
Nile Rogers & Chic
Nine Inch Nails
Nirvana
Oasis
OMD
Otis Redding
Patti Smith
Paul Simon (& Garfunkel)
Pet Shop Boys
Phil Collins (& Genesis)
Pink Floyd
Prince
Public Enemy
Queen
Radiohead
Ray Charles
Red Hot Chili Peppers
REM
Rihanna
Rod Stewart
Rolling Stones
Run DMC
Sly and the Family Stone
Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
Soundgarden
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Stevie Wonder
Stone Roses
Supertramp
Take That
Talking Heads
Taylor Swift
The Beach Boys
The Bee Gees
The Byrds
The Carpenters
The Clash
The Cure
The Dead Kennedys
The Doors
The Everly Brothers
The Four Tops
The Jam
The Killers
The Kinks
The Pixies
The Police
The Ramones
The Sex Pistols
The Smiths
The Stooges
The Temptations
The White Stripes
The Who
The Yardbirds
Thin Lizzy
Tina Turner
Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
Tom Waits
T-Rex
Tupac Shakur
U2
Van Morrison
Whitney Houston
Yes


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Post by Galted on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 2:31 pm

OMD
The Pet Shop Boys
The Dead Kennedys
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Post by rick_dagless on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 2:33 pm

Iron Maiden

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Post by LionsV2 on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 2:39 pm

Not too bad, a few big omissions and a few that shouldn't be there.

In

Buddy Guy
BB King
Kiss
Soundgarden
Yes
Iron Maiden
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Emerson, Lake and Palmer

Out

Kasabian
White Stripes
The Killers
Stereophonics

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Post by rick_dagless on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 2:45 pm

Probably room for Nile Rogers and Chic
and a bit of Burt Bacharach

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Post by Galted on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 2:53 pm

Ignore Dagless, he's started making up names.

John Cougar Mellencamp deserves a place though.
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Post by JuliusHMarx on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 3:32 pm

In -
Miles Davis
Louis Armstrong
Billie Holiday
Duke Ellington
Sun Ra
Captain Beefheart
Tom Waits
ELO
George Michael
Duran Duran
ABBA
Bill Haley

Out -
Lennon/McCartney as separate entries
One of the 2 Metallicas
Elvis Costello
The Pixies
The Libertines
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Curtis Mayfield
The Drifters
Kasabian
Stereophonics


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Post by Hero on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 3:47 pm

Just did a random draw on the list so far to see what groups are like and this one turned up:

1. The Smiths
2. Rolling Stones
3. Bob Marley
4. Dr Dre
5. Beatles

Think people would forget about Dre.

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Post by Beer on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 3:49 pm

Smiths and Bob are winning that.

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Post by Beer on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 4:00 pm

Massive Attack - Out
The Dead Kennedy's - Out
Public Enemy - Out
The Velvet Underground

Bon Jovi - In
Faithless - In
NWA - In
INXS - In

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Post by Galted on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 4:09 pm

Back in - Dead Kennedys

Back out - Bon Jovi

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 4:12 pm

Galted wrote:Back in - Dead Kennedys

Back out - Bon Jovi


You give lists a bad name.

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Post by Hero on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 4:21 pm

Beer wrote:Massive Attack - Out
The Dead Kennedy's - Out
Public Enemy - Out
The Velvet Underground

Bon Jovi - In
Faithless - In
NWA - In
INXS - In

NWA or Dre?

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Post by LionsV2 on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 4:22 pm

I'd take out Kanye West, keep Dre and add NWA.

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Post by Beer on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 4:29 pm

Hero wrote:
Beer wrote:Massive Attack - Out
The Dead Kennedy's - Out
Public Enemy - Out
The Velvet Underground

Bon Jovi - In
Faithless - In
NWA - In
INXS - In

NWA or Dre?

Tough one, as Straight Outta Compton and The Chronic are both iconic albums in their own right.

Also, The Dead Kennedy's had one good song. Bon Jovi had 3, maybe 4.

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Post by Hero on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 4:31 pm

I've removed Lennon/McCartney to just retain the Beatles, also don't have a double up on Wham/George Michael so it's just the one of Dre and NWA.

Akin to George Michael & Wham I'd personally be considering Dre's work in NWA when I voted.

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 4:33 pm

In that case maybe put Paul Simon instead of S & G.

As an aside, there is a hairstylist near where I live called Simon Paul. If I had the money I'd open up a gallery next door and call it Garfunkel Art.

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Post by Beer on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 4:36 pm

I'd agree that NWA as a collective were more influential than Dre.

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Post by Hero on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 4:38 pm

I've clarified them as the following:

George Michael (& Wham)
Paul Simon (& Garfunkel)
Dr Dre (& NWA)

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 4:41 pm

Hero wrote:I've clarified them as the following:

George Michael (& Wham)
Paul Simon (& Garfunkel)
Dr Dre (& NWA)

Lou Reed (& The Velvet Underground)

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Post by ShahenshahG on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 6:34 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:
Galted wrote:Back in - Dead Kennedys

Back out - Bon Jovi


You give lists a bad name.

laughing

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Post by Hibbz on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 7:06 pm

I think Dire Straits probably deserve to be in and Phil Collins based on sales alone.

Why don't you just go for the 128 best selling?

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Thu 07 Sep 2017, 8:10 pm

Hibbz wrote:I think Dire Straits probably deserve to be in and Phil Collins based on sales alone.

Why don't you just go for the 128 best selling?

Interesting point - no Mariah Carey, Britney Spears, Spice Girls etc on the list.

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Post by Beer on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 9:40 am

Dolly Parton? The Bee Gees?

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Post by Hero on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 9:58 am

Hibbz wrote:I think Dire Straits probably deserve to be in and Phil Collins based on sales alone.

Why don't you just go for the 128 best selling?

Best selling doesn't always translate to best artist.
DJ Khaled, Justin Bieber and PSY are the most viewed musical videos of all time, I don't think anyone would wish to vote for them as best musical video.

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Post by Hero on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 10:05 am

Going to up it to 160 artists initially so that I can then do 32 groups of 5 with the top two going through from each group.

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Post by Beer on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 10:08 am

Good work, Hero.

Get Bon Jovi in there. And Taylor Swift.

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Post by Hero on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 10:17 am

Okay I now have 160 entrants.
Unless there's an outcry of a number of people wanting someone in/out then it's a done deal and I'll kick off the groups on Monday.

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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 11:00 am

Is 36 groups of 5 too much, Hero?

Here's another 20 if you want...

Blondie
Dusty Springfield
ELO
Frankie Valli & The 4 Seasons
Heart
INXS
Jefferson Airplane
Joe Jackson
Kraftwerk
Little River Band
Men At Work
Olivia Newton John
Spandau Ballet
Squeeze
Steely Dan
Supertramp
The Animals
The Cranberries
Thin Lizzy
T-Rex
The Seekers

... that might be 21 so discard 1
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Post by JuliusHMarx on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 11:20 am

Men at Work? I know you come from a land Down Under, TLD, but that's stretching it!

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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 11:42 am

Popular in South America and parts of Asia, Jules.  Wink
Some big ones in that list... some of which you have already noted. Were Suzie Quatro and Linda Ronstadt big in the UK? Both sold tens of millions of records worldwide and were quite popular here... as well. I'm glad I didn't mention The Bangles or The Buggles though. No A-ha I see.
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Post by Hero on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 11:49 am

yeah some of those need to be in. grrr.

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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 11:51 am

Sorry mate.
Just think what a perfect tournament it will be though... covering a wider range of artists.
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Post by Galted on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 11:52 am

And Rodriguez. How could I nearly forget?
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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 11:55 am

and Billy Idol of course. Whistle
and The Small Faces

but not Boz Scaggs
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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 11:57 am

Galted wrote:And Rodriguez. How could I nearly forget?

only if he includes (Carlos Devadip) Santana though... and Joan Baez

What, no Tiny Tim?
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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 12:05 pm

Bonnie Tyler. Has anyone heard her voice recently? It was raspy enough back then.
Roxette
Sinead and that crazy Scandinavian one... Bjork? Nah... better not.
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Post by Hero on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 12:05 pm

Santana was already in.
Okay made some amendments based on the feedback, Blondie, Dusty, INXS, ELO, Kraftwerk, Thin Lizzy and T-Rex all are in.

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Post by Hero on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 12:06 pm

The Loaded Dog wrote:Bonnie Tyler. Has anyone heard her voice recently? It was raspy enough back then.
Roxette
Sinead and that crazy Scandinavian one... Bjork? Nah... better not.

Bjork is one of my fave artists of all time but I can't justify her inclusion.

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 12:08 pm

No Sheryl Crow.

Need to start cutting the list down. Get rid of The Dead Kennedys.

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Post by Hero on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 12:18 pm

32 groups of 5 with 2 groups per day should get rattled through fairly quickly.

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Post by Hero on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 12:24 pm

Each day when I post the polls I'll try to also include a link to one of the artists most famous tracks so that anyone who perhaps isn't aware of that artist can hopefully listen and make more of an informed choice.

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Post by Beer on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 12:38 pm

Alanis Morrisette?

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Post by Galted on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 12:51 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:No Sheryl Crow.

Need to start cutting the list down. Get rid of The Dead Kennedys.

Don't listen to Julius, he's had too many cream horns.

You should add a few bands with revolting names, in uppercase, to appeal to SerialDAVE if he's still alive. And getting rid of the Beatles might lure Jeff back. And I know that Tino is a big fan of Menudo.
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Post by rick_dagless on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 12:55 pm

Muse

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Post by superflyweight on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 1:23 pm

Didn't Adele get voted favourite musician on here a few years ago? Almost as poor an outcome as Brexit.


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Post by ShahenshahG on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 1:58 pm

I have a confession to make about that result superfly...

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 2:15 pm

Beer wrote:Alanis Morrisette?

It would certainly be ironic if she was left out.

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Post by Hero on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 2:17 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:
Beer wrote:Alanis Morrisette?

It would certainly be ironic if she was left out.

Don't you think?

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Post by Hibbz on Fri 08 Sep 2017, 4:36 pm

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Hibbz wrote:I think Dire Straits probably deserve to be in and Phil Collins based on sales alone.

Why don't you just go for the 128 best selling?

Best selling doesn't always translate to best artist.
DJ Khaled, Justin Bieber and PSY are the most viewed musical videos of all time, I don't think anyone would wish to vote for them as best musical video.

It depends very much on your definition of best. Either way it's going to be subjective. I was just offering you a way to select your initial participants without all the nonsense. If you don't want to take it shove it up your @rse. Besides which your thread is titled greatest not best your mahoosive c0ckwomble.

Perhaps you should rename this "the greatest musical artist from Hero's 160 subjectively chosen musical artists of the last 100 years".

and, and, and whoever chooses to watch DJ Khaled, Justin Bieber and PSY musical videos may well wish to vote for them as best musical video else I'm not sure why they'd watch them.

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