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Post by profitius on Tue 12 Sep 2017, 5:16 pm

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Continued from this one. http://www.606v2.com/t63658-irish-provinces-news-gossip-thread-2016-17
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Post by rodders on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 10:43 am

SecretFly wrote:Another PS....

I'd assume when Joe does go (Please don't Joe!  Stay as long as Gatland has stayed with Wales)  But when he does go, I assume there Will be many people putting McCall's name in there as a possible.

I don't think the IRFU will look outside the system.

I think Farrell might be penciled in to take over, I'd like to seem him and Lancaster partnered up again. Maybe O'Connell as forwards coach.

Felix Jones seems to be the most highly regarded of the Irish coaches. ROG I think will need a stint at Munster before he's considered but maybe is one for the future.
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Post by carpet baboon on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 10:46 am

Only just spotted that Gervan Dempsey is Leinster's attack coach. He's doing a good job

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 10:51 am

carpet baboon wrote:Only just spotted that Gervan Dempsey is Leinster's attack coach. He's doing a good job

Now you got it.... OK

The quiet man nobody ever talks about. But he don't coach quiet rugby.

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Post by carpet baboon on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 10:53 am

On the subject of Mr Felix Jones, I remember the 2009 Churchill cup final. He destroyed England that day. In fact I'm sure I remember McFadden having a blinder in the centre too. The pack was pretty tasty too. Healy, Cronin, Ryan all smashing the crap out of England.

Ahhhh good days

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Post by carpet baboon on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 10:54 am

SecretFly wrote:
carpet baboon wrote:Only just spotted that Gervan Dempsey is Leinster's attack coach. He's doing a good job

Now you got it.... OK

The quiet man nobody ever talks about.  But he don't coach quiet rugby.

No his coaching is loud as hell. Bit too loud for the IRFU ?

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Post by rodders on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 10:56 am

Don't normally agree with Francis but he is spot on here:-

https://www.balls.ie/rugby/neil-francis-irish-rugby-peds-381692

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 10:58 am

carpet baboon wrote:On the subject of Mr Felix Jones, I remember the 2009 Churchill cup final. He destroyed England that day. In fact I'm sure I remember McFadden having a blinder in the centre too.  The pack was pretty tasty too. Healy, Cronin, Ryan all smashing the crap out of England.

Ahhhh good days

I hope we're smart this time round. I think England are holding a lot of steam in behind the scenes. I hope we're smart enough and good enough to expect and be able to resist what they'll have planned for us on that last day.
I couldn't give a crap about the notion of only one English team in the ECC.... all the more time to devote to this 6N thing coming up.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 11:00 am

It is really promising to see how highly rated Felix Jones is as a coach. There was a time where there seemed to be very few young promising Irish coaches and now there seems to the a good few:

Jones
Easterby x2
Jackman
Rog
Cullen
Dempsey
John Fogarty
Jerry Flannery

Good succession policies within the IRFU are obviously working well.

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Post by carpet baboon on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 11:01 am

SecretFly wrote:
carpet baboon wrote:On the subject of Mr Felix Jones, I remember the 2009 Churchill cup final. He destroyed England that day. In fact I'm sure I remember McFadden having a blinder in the centre too.  The pack was pretty tasty too. Healy, Cronin, Ryan all smashing the crap out of England.

Ahhhh good days

I hope we're smart this time round.  I think England are holding a lot of steam in behind the scenes.  I hope we're smart enough and good enough to expect and be able to resist what they'll have planned for us on that last day.  
I couldn't give a crap about the notion of only one English team in the ECC.... all the more time to devote to this 6N thing coming up.  

I dont think we will be stupid enough to underestimate them. And if we win 3 nil that will do me, but I hope to hell we cut them apart with fast, incisive rugby

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 11:17 am

carpet baboon wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
carpet baboon wrote:On the subject of Mr Felix Jones, I remember the 2009 Churchill cup final. He destroyed England that day. In fact I'm sure I remember McFadden having a blinder in the centre too.  The pack was pretty tasty too. Healy, Cronin, Ryan all smashing the crap out of England.

Ahhhh good days

I hope we're smart this time round.  I think England are holding a lot of steam in behind the scenes.  I hope we're smart enough and good enough to expect and be able to resist what they'll have planned for us on that last day.  
I couldn't give a crap about the notion of only one English team in the ECC.... all the more time to devote to this 6N thing coming up.  

I dont think we will be stupid enough to underestimate them. And if we win 3 nil that will do me, but I hope to hell we cut them apart with fast, incisive rugby

I'm just feeling Eddie Jones might try a few tricks this season and not actually try to obliterate teams. I think he knows there is more genuine opposition out there this time (Scotland, and Welsh players coming into some dashing form)...but I still think he feels he has the tools to take care of them. But I think he might want to play a little like an injured duck through the contest (just winning an no more), hoping Ireland let their guard down as a result.

But that presumes Ireland and England will have enough in the tank to be the only sides in contention by the end. That is an assumption I will not remotely put out there....so I'm just trying to think what Eddie thinks.... and he always thinks he's the best. Laugh

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Post by Collapse2005 on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 2:23 pm

I see that Stephen Donald is not going to Ulster after all. Its all going a bit pear shaped for ulster this year.

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Post by rodders on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 2:59 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:I see that Stephen Donald is not going to Ulster after all. Its all going a bit pear shaped for ulster this year.

That's an insult to pears.
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Post by Pete330v2 on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 3:18 pm

rodders wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:I see that Stephen Donald is not going to Ulster after all. Its all going a bit pear shaped for ulster this year.

That's an insult to pears.

If you're going to use fruit to describe Ulster's season I'd go for the Durian.
Smells like shiiiiiiiiiite!!!!!!

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 4:13 pm

Pete330v2 wrote:
rodders wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:I see that Stephen Donald is not going to Ulster after all. Its all going a bit pear shaped for ulster this year.

That's an insult to pears.

If you're going to use fruit to describe Ulster's season I'd go for the Durian.
Smells like shiiiiiiiiiite!!!!!!

Shocked Undoubtedly why apples and pears are still more popular of the shelves of Supervalu, Tescos and Lidl?

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Post by thebandwagonsociety on Tue 23 Jan 2018, 2:54 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:It is really promising to see how highly rated Felix Jones is as a coach. There was a time where there seemed to be very few young promising Irish coaches and now there seems to the a good few:

Jones
Easterby x2
Jackman
Rog
Cullen
Dempsey
John Fogarty
Jerry Flannery

Good succession policies within the IRFU are obviously working well.

Jones seems to be getting good plaudits. For a career ravaged with injuries he really does seem to have the drive/focus for coaching.
I'd agree with you for one easterby - the other is just a logistics manager and mouthpiece.
Jackman's star is fading, if he doesn't make improvements in the Dragons soon he'll have trouble picking up the next gig.
ROG is a genuine prospect. Good progression through Racing so far and the move to SH will be a real feather in the cap.
Cullen is more of a DOR than a coach, how much is his input versus Lancaster's input is difficult to figure out.
Dempsey is a genuine prospect. He started with the leinster academy and has progressed steadily. The next generation of leinster player coming through will all have had him as a youth coach. But he's dealing with a quality production line which has it's own challenges but will cast a question mark to being able to cope with more difficult coaching situations.
Fogarty seems to be on the perifery, going along quitely. Seems a solid coach.
Flannery - just don't know its early days, is he a key guy in that coaching ticket or did he keep his position out of convenience and some consistency in recent coaching changes. Unsure. Flannery and Jones are on a par, but to me it feels like Jones is where he is at and on the way up, while Flannery is where he is and has been at that level for a bit too long).

There is also McCall and O'Shea out in the ether.

Hookers, Outhalves and fullbacks seem to be the source positions for coaching setup. Where are our backrows going if not into coaching?

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Post by Sin é on Tue 23 Jan 2018, 5:22 pm

thebandwagonsociety wrote:
Flannery - just don't know its early days, is he a key guy in that coaching ticket or did he keep his position out of convenience and some consistency in recent coaching changes.  Unsure.  Flannery and Jones are on a par, but to me it feels like Jones is where he is at and on the way up, while Flannery is where he is and has been at that level for a bit too long).

Actually, I'd say the opposite. Just look at the production line of good hookers Munster is producing - think its 5 at present that you wouldn't worry about starting a European game - they can all throw straight. Munster's scrum has improved enormously in the last couple of years - Stephen Archer was written off years ago - now he is making mush of a French scrum. He is a the poster boy for working hard and achieving a lot.

I also like his mid-game interviews. Usually fairly technical, excellent analysis but very honest.

He also seems to be great fun, witty, cutting but not cruel. He will take the piss out of himself. Great interview on an Irishman Abroad with him (done when he was working with Arsenal). Really interesting guy.

http://anirishmanabroad.podbean.com/2014/02/17/episode-22-jerry-flannery/
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Post by SecretFly on Tue 23 Jan 2018, 6:46 pm

Sin é wrote:

He also seems to be great fun, witty, cutting but not cruel. He will take the piss out of himself. Great interview on an Irishman Abroad with him (done when he was working with Arsenal). Really interesting guy.

http://anirishmanabroad.podbean.com/2014/02/17/episode-22-jerry-flannery/

It's not nice talking about coaches or player's personalities IF you're going to try and suggest they're maybe not all that nice.  I'm not so sure it's all that big a deal anyway if a coach is nice or nasty.  I think there are good ones of all personality types and their personalities work for them IF they are good coaches.  

But just listening to that bit about Flannery at the end there, Sin, and I immediately thought of his recent raspy verbal clash with an old team mate in Quinlan.  I thought his attack on his past team mate was a sign that he seemed a little thin skinned.  Quinlan has a job to do - a new job.  He has to approach it as professionally as his old job.  And that means he has to tell it as he sees it, and if that sometimes feels like it might be him being overcritical of Munster well I think that's more perception than reality on Flannery's part.  And then for him to say Quinlan knows virtually nothing and is not informed enough to comment on Munster rugby a tad churlish...if not childish.

I also remember asking Red Stag..... everyone remember him?... (I hope I got his name right)....a few years ago about David Wallace and what kind of person he was.  Stag often talked with the tone of being a person that knew these guys quite a bit.  I was happy that he said Wallace was a nice guy.  He always came across that way and he was a favourite player of mine.  Then I asked about Flannery................................ Hmmmmm........................... He didn't say he was a bollix  Laugh ..but neither did he say he was overly nice.

Anyway, like I say, I don't care how nice he is if he's a good coach.  He seems to be a good coach.  So maybe he's one of the more abrasive type of coaches.  I don't mind that at all if he gets the job done.  But I didn't like that overly long attack on Quinlan.  Just take the pain.  Pundits have to be pundits.  It's their job.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life on Tue 23 Jan 2018, 7:54 pm

thebandwagonsociety wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:It is really promising to see how highly rated Felix Jones is as a coach. There was a time where there seemed to be very few young promising Irish coaches and now there seems to the a good few:

Jones
Easterby x2
Jackman
Rog
Cullen
Dempsey
John Fogarty
Jerry Flannery

Good succession policies within the IRFU are obviously working well.

Jones seems to be getting good plaudits.  For a career ravaged with injuries he really does seem to have the drive/focus for coaching.
I'd agree with you for one easterby - the other is just a logistics manager and mouthpiece.
Jackman's star is fading, if he doesn't make improvements in the Dragons soon he'll have trouble picking up the next gig.
ROG is a genuine prospect. Good progression through Racing so far and the move to SH will be a real feather in the cap.
Cullen is more of a DOR than a coach, how much is his input versus Lancaster's input is difficult to figure out.
Dempsey is a genuine prospect.  He started with the leinster academy and has progressed steadily.  The next generation of leinster player coming through will all have had him as a youth coach.  But he's dealing with a quality production line which has it's own challenges but will cast a question mark to being able to cope with more difficult coaching situations.
Fogarty seems to be on the perifery, going along quitely.  Seems a solid coach.
Flannery - just don't know its early days, is he a key guy in that coaching ticket or did he keep his position out of convenience and some consistency in recent coaching changes.  Unsure.  Flannery and Jones are on a par, but to me it feels like Jones is where he is at and on the way up, while Flannery is where he is and has been at that level for a bit too long).

There is also McCall and O'Shea out in the ether.

Hookers, Outhalves and fullbacks seem to be the source positions for coaching setup.  Where are our backrows going if not into coaching?
Don't forget about Jeremy Davidson at Bordeaux.

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Post by marty2086 on Tue 23 Jan 2018, 9:11 pm

Geordan Murphy getting good reviews at Leicester too, has been linked with the Cardiff and Ospreys jobs

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Post by Sin é on Tue 23 Jan 2018, 9:29 pm

SecretFly wrote:
Sin é wrote:

He also seems to be great fun, witty, cutting but not cruel. He will take the piss out of himself. Great interview on an Irishman Abroad with him (done when he was working with Arsenal). Really interesting guy.

http://anirishmanabroad.podbean.com/2014/02/17/episode-22-jerry-flannery/
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It's not nice talking about coaches or player's personalities IF you're going to try and suggest they're maybe not all that nice.  I'm not so sure it's all that big a deal anyway if a coach is nice or nasty.  I think there are good ones of all personality types and their personalities work for them IF they are good coaches.  

I didn't bring 'nice' into it. All I said was that he was 'great fun, witty, cutting but not cruel.' For example, I'd say Leo Cullen is a 'nice' guy, but I'd prefer to go for a pint with Fla!

But just listening to that bit about Flannery at the end there, Sin, and I immediately thought of his recent raspy verbal clash with an old team mate in Quinlan.  I thought his attack on his past team mate was a sign that he seemed a little thin skinned.  Quinlan has a job to do - a new job.  He has to approach it as professionally as his old job.  And that means he has to tell it as he sees it, and if that sometimes feels like it might be him being overcritical of Munster well I think that's more perception than reality on Flannery's part.  And then for him to say Quinlan knows virtually nothing and is not informed enough to comment on Munster rugby a tad churlish...if not childish.

Flannery has a job to do as well - and that is defend his players (and Felix ones who was acting defence coach and attack coach and kicking coach) in the case of unfair criticism as he saw it. Quinlan was criticising Munster for a 5 try bonus win against Zebre who had beaten Ulster the week before. Seems, Quinlan hadn't done his homework as he had been brought in on short notice to cover for someone. Here is what Flannery had to say.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rugby/jerry-flannery-keeping-the-munster-value-system-intact-through-years-of-change-464578.html

I also remember asking Red Stag..... everyone remember him?... (I hope I got his name right)....a few years ago about David Wallace and what kind of person he was.  Stag often talked with the tone of being a person that knew these guys quite a bit.  I was happy that he said Wallace was a nice guy.  He always came across that way and he was a favourite player of mine.  Then I asked about Flannery................................ Hmmmmm........................... He didn't say he was a bollix  Laugh ..but neither did he say he was overly nice.

Of course I remember Red Stag - Ireland's answer to Wayne Barnes! It doesn't surprise me that he wouldn't like Fla!

Anyway, like I say, I don't care how nice he is if he's a good coach.  He seems to be a good coach.  So maybe he's one of the more abrasive type of coaches.  I don't mind that at all if he gets the job done.  But I didn't like that overly long attack on Quinlan.  Just take the pain.  Pundits have to be pundits.  It's their job.

As I said, nothing to do with nice. Read the article in the link above, or better still listen to the podcast on joe.ie

https://soundcloud.com/thehardyardssportsjoe/ep-40-jerry-flannery-fires-back-at-munster-criticism-and-kevin-mclaughlin-has-more-apologising-to-do
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Post by SecretFly on Tue 23 Jan 2018, 10:03 pm

Sin é wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
Sin é wrote:

He also seems to be great fun, witty, cutting but not cruel. He will take the piss out of himself. Great interview on an Irishman Abroad with him (done when he was working with Arsenal). Really interesting guy.

http://anirishmanabroad.podbean.com/2014/02/17/episode-22-jerry-flannery/


It's not nice talking about coaches or player's personalities IF you're going to try and suggest they're maybe not all that nice.  I'm not so sure it's all that big a deal anyway if a coach is nice or nasty.  I think there are good ones of all personality types and their personalities work for them IF they are good coaches.  

I didn't bring 'nice' into it. All I said was that he was 'great fun, witty, cutting but not cruel.' For example, I'd say Leo Cullen is a 'nice' guy, but I'd prefer to go for a pint with Fla!



Oh sorry about that.  I should have been clearer.  That was me covering my own ass about not being nice talking about not so nice players or coaches.... then I went on to talk about it Wink  That bit about "it's not nice...." was directed at me.... not you.

Sure you wouldn't ever offend me, Sin............ Cool Whistle Wink

But you're right.  Sometimes some people are TOO nice.... like old DOD used to be of a Monday morning......  he used to smother us all here in love on those mornings.

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Post by SecretFly on Tue 23 Jan 2018, 10:05 pm

Sin é wrote:

Of course I remember Red Stag - Ireland's answer to Wayne Barnes! It doesn't surprise me that he wouldn't like Fla!


laughing Ah the memories.....

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Post by Geen sport voor watjes on Tue 23 Jan 2018, 11:15 pm

Red stag was nothing like Barnes. Stag just tried to be neutral and ended up being a bit Vichy. Eirebilly is a bit like that. Kind of sorry we beat you!

Anyhow. What a surprise concerning Flannery. Leinster supporter makes some character assertion concerning something he knows sweet fanny Adams about aided and abetted by some dodgy reference to the greatest spoofer ever in quinlan.

It’s like saying Leo was great in glenroe but is typecast.

The Munster forwards this year have been pretty good he looks like he is doing a decent job nuff said

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Post by rapidsnowman on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 5:10 am

The haircut has improved him!!

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 6:07 am

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:Red stag was nothing like Barnes. Stag just tried to be neutral and ended up being a bit Vichy. Eirebilly is a bit like that. Kind of sorry we beat you!

Anyhow. What a surprise concerning Flannery. Leinster supporter makes some character assertion concerning something he knows sweet fanny Adams about aided and abetted by some dodgy reference to the greatest spoofer ever in quinlan.

It’s like saying Leo was great in glenroe but is typecast.

The Munster forwards this year have been pretty good he looks like he is doing a decent job nuff said

Never sorry that Munster beat anyone at all. There is also absolutely nothing wrong with being gracious in defeat either, sometimes the better team on the day wins and they deserve credit.

As for Fla, he is a top lad. He simply pulls no punches with what he says, that may come across as harsh to the PC crowd but it is what you get with Fla. As Sin é says, there is a reason why Munster have a wealth of depth at Hooker and why the forwards are performing as well as they are.
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Post by rodders on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 9:45 am

SecretFly wrote:
I also remember asking Red Stag..... everyone remember him?... (I hope I got his name right)....a few years ago about David Wallace and what kind of person he was.  Stag often talked with the tone of being a person that knew these guys quite a bit.  I was happy that he said Wallace was a nice guy.  He always came across that way and he was a favourite player of mine.  Then I asked about Flannery................................ Hmmmmm........................... He didn't say he was a bollix  Laugh ..but neither did he say he was overly nice.

I remember getting a tour of Limerick with the stag. I wanted to go for a pint in Jerry's bar but he wouldn't go for it.... Smile
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Post by SecretFly on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 10:11 am

laughing

Good shots, guys!  All three of you in sequence...although I have to say I think rodders got the sharpest bullet in - nice completion of the trilogy.

To use a Billy Vichi-ism, I am but profoundly sorry to have so offended the lovely Munster lads that do be raging all through.... I mean attending these 606 seminars on the purpose or otherwise of Munster rugby.  
I still think it has a purpose as a fine producer of frowning men that growl at the wives from morning till dusk and, on a good day, bellyache at them instead.  It's a tradition in Ireland that doesn't get enough credit and a Munster with Fla at the helm(ish) is producing a lot of raw talent for future Irish households, I am sure.

Now - I'll transport you all to 2027.  POC has become Head coach at Munster.  Fla, after a few tough years, drops out of the rat race and decides the Quinlan easy life is for him.  He does a stint on Dancing with the Stars and then moves on to the punditry.  His first few contributions rip into the new Munster head coach, complaining that POC is a chancer with not the right personality (the 'cutting but not cruel' qualification) to take Munster all the way.

Sin and DOD come on here to throw a few stones at the terrible dancer who went out in the first round.  "And where did Fla take Munster?  All the f**king way to fifth in the Challenge Cup for two years running!"

I'm warning you.  I saw it...it was a premonition.  I hope it don't happen.

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Post by Golden on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 11:13 am

SecretFly wrote:laughing

Good shots, guys!  All three of you in sequence...although I have to say I think rodders got the sharpest bullet in - nice completion of the trilogy.

To use a Billy Vichi-ism, I am but profoundly sorry to have so offended the lovely Munster lads that do be raging all through.... I mean attending these 606 seminars on the purpose or otherwise of Munster rugby.  
I still think it has a purpose as a fine producer of frowning men that growl at the wives from morning till dusk and, on a good day, bellyache at them instead.  It's a tradition in Ireland that doesn't get enough credit and a Munster with Fla at the helm(ish) is producing a lot of raw talent for future Irish households, I am sure.

Now - I'll transport you all to 2027.  POC has become Head coach at Munster.  Fla, after a few tough years, drops out of the rat race and decides the Quinlan easy life is for him.  He does a stint on Dancing with the Stars and then moves on to the punditry.  His first few contributions rip into the new Munster head coach, complaining that POC is a chancer with not the right personality (the 'cutting but not cruel' qualification) to take Munster all the way.

Sin and DOD come on here to throw a few stones at the terrible dancer who went out in the first round.  "And where did Fla take Munster?  All the f**king way to fifth in the Challenge Cup for two years running!"

I'm warning you.  I saw it...it was a premonition.  I hope it don't happen.


I hope so too Fly. That dancing with the stars Poopie better not still be on the telly.

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 1:22 pm

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I also remember asking Red Stag..... everyone remember him?... (I hope I got his name right)....a few years ago about David Wallace and what kind of person he was.  Stag often talked with the tone of being a person that knew these guys quite a bit.  I was happy that he said Wallace was a nice guy.  He always came across that way and he was a favourite player of mine.  Then I asked about Flannery................................ Hmmmmm........................... He didn't say he was a bollix  Laugh ..but neither did he say he was overly nice.

I remember getting a tour of Limerick with the stag. I wanted to go for a pint in Jerry's bar but he wouldn't go for it.... Smile

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Post by Geen sport voor watjes on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 3:49 pm

The best way to visit limerick for a game is don’t arrive until just before the game starts. Don’t talk to the locals ( you won’t understand them anyway) and get the hell out of dodge as soon as the game is finished.

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Post by wolfball on Thu 25 Jan 2018, 1:55 am

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:The best way to visit limerick for a game is don’t arrive until just before the game starts. Don’t talk to the locals ( you won’t understand them anyway) and get the hell out of dodge as soon as the game is finished.

DOD you should work for Failte Ireland laughing

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Post by Geen sport voor watjes on Sat 27 Jan 2018, 12:25 am

wolfball wrote:
Geen sport voor watjes wrote:The best way to visit limerick for a game is don’t arrive until just before the game starts. Don’t talk to the locals ( you won’t understand them anyway) and get the hell out of dodge as soon as the game is finished.

DOD you should work for Failte Ireland laughing

Well it’s not like you would find any rugby players from limerick so not sure what we are doing wasting our time heading to the shiny shed. Better off using the new Pairc hi Choimh in Cork and start getting the real crowds back

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat 27 Jan 2018, 9:10 am

I agree. Munster rugby should be based in Cork. Nicer place and bigger population. I get the sense that amature attitudes prevail in Munster rugby and sensible change can be difficult there.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Sat 27 Jan 2018, 9:13 am

David Wallace is very nice. He has a holiday home in Waterford beside mine. My son has gone to his kids party. He was quite welcoming and down to earth.

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Post by Sin é on Sat 27 Jan 2018, 1:25 pm

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:
wolfball wrote:
Geen sport voor watjes wrote:The best way to visit limerick for a game is don’t arrive until just before the game starts. Don’t talk to the locals ( you won’t understand them anyway) and get the hell out of dodge as soon as the game is finished.

DOD you should work for Failte Ireland laughing

Well it’s not like you would find any rugby players from limerick so not sure what we are doing wasting our time heading to the shiny shed. Better off using the new Pairc hi Choimh in Cork and start getting the real crowds back

Munster Rugby is based in Limerick to save Cork people from themselves.
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Post by The Great Aukster on Sat 27 Jan 2018, 10:21 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:David Wallace is very nice. He has a holiday home in Waterford beside mine. My son has gone to his kids party. He was quite welcoming and down to earth.

Isn't it ironic that it was Tuilagi that brought him to earth?

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Post by Sin é on Tue 30 Jan 2018, 12:55 pm

Leinster Schools Rugby bringing Irish rugby fans into disrepute.

Street brawl outside Kiley's in Donnybrook after Michaels v. Terenure Leinster Schools Cup game yesterday. It wasn't the kids, but the grown-ups (no doubt Leinster supporters) who were brawling.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/watch-gardai-called-to-street-brawl-in-south-dublin-after-schools-rugby-match-36544024.html

They are a disgrace to Irish rugby.
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Post by eirebilly on Tue 30 Jan 2018, 1:01 pm

I saw that this morning sin é, pretty poor.
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Post by SecretFly on Tue 30 Jan 2018, 1:29 pm

Sin é wrote:Leinster Schools Rugby bringing Irish rugby fans into disrepute.

Street brawl outside Kiley's in Donnybrook after Michaels v. Terenure Leinster Schools Cup game yesterday. It wasn't the kids, but the grown-ups (no doubt Leinster supporters) who were brawling.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/watch-gardai-called-to-street-brawl-in-south-dublin-after-schools-rugby-match-36544024.html

They are a disgrace to Irish rugby.

Better than a brisk walk on these cold damp days, sin.

Were you there? I was at home on Killiney Hill, myself, that's my alibi.

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Post by Sin é on Tue 30 Jan 2018, 1:59 pm

SecretFly wrote:
Sin é wrote:Leinster Schools Rugby bringing Irish rugby fans into disrepute.

Street brawl outside Kiley's in Donnybrook after Michaels v. Terenure Leinster Schools Cup game yesterday. It wasn't the kids, but the grown-ups (no doubt Leinster supporters) who were brawling.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/watch-gardai-called-to-street-brawl-in-south-dublin-after-schools-rugby-match-36544024.html

They are a disgrace to Irish rugby.

Better than a brisk walk on these cold damp days, sin.  

Were you there?  I was at home on Killiney Hill, myself, that's my alibi.

I was out that way myself yesterday, I didn't see you!

Anyway, this brawling on the main street of Donnybrook does nothing for the Leinster Brand.
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Post by SecretFly on Tue 30 Jan 2018, 2:10 pm

Sin é wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
Sin é wrote:Leinster Schools Rugby bringing Irish rugby fans into disrepute.

Street brawl outside Kiley's in Donnybrook after Michaels v. Terenure Leinster Schools Cup game yesterday. It wasn't the kids, but the grown-ups (no doubt Leinster supporters) who were brawling.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/watch-gardai-called-to-street-brawl-in-south-dublin-after-schools-rugby-match-36544024.html

They are a disgrace to Irish rugby.

Better than a brisk walk on these cold damp days, sin.  

Were you there?  I was at home on Killiney Hill, myself, that's my alibi.

I was out that way myself yesterday, I didn't see you!

Anyway, this brawling on the main street of Donnybrook does nothing for the Leinster Brand.

Are you going soft after too many years in Dublin, sin?  I haven't seen the show in detail but I'm sure that if I do manage the time to take a look I'll find it a lot less violent than a familiar fist fight after a great GAA game.  Sure aren't we all Celts and ready for cudgels and pitch fork battles at the drop of a hat?

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Post by thebandwagonsociety on Tue 30 Jan 2018, 6:40 pm

Sin é wrote:Leinster Schools Rugby bringing Irish rugby fans into disrepute.

Street brawl outside Kiley's in Donnybrook after Michaels v. Terenure Leinster Schools Cup game yesterday. It wasn't the kids, but the grown-ups (no doubt Leinster supporters) who were brawling.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/watch-gardai-called-to-street-brawl-in-south-dublin-after-schools-rugby-match-36544024.html

They are a disgrace to Irish rugby.

They should have just relaxed and took some drugs. That stuff is almost encouraged in other provinces these days.
By the time Gardai arrived to the incident there was nobody there. Gardai say they are not investigating. St Michael’s won the match 27-13.

Drug cheats allowed to play for a province, former player sentenced for possession of recreational drugs, recent players in the dock for varying degrees of sexual assault. And beyond all that some drunk-middle-aged-should-know-better-posing-bunch-of-wannabe-toffs act like idiots and that is what is the disgrace to Irish rugby.

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Post by Engine#4 on Tue 30 Jan 2018, 9:43 pm

Ban them from all future Leinster matches. Zero tolerance. Regardless of who they were representing at the time of their indiscretion.

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Post by Sin é on Tue 30 Jan 2018, 11:29 pm

thebandwagonsociety wrote:
Sin é wrote:Leinster Schools Rugby bringing Irish rugby fans into disrepute.

Street brawl outside Kiley's in Donnybrook after Michaels v. Terenure Leinster Schools Cup game yesterday. It wasn't the kids, but the grown-ups (no doubt Leinster supporters) who were brawling.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/watch-gardai-called-to-street-brawl-in-south-dublin-after-schools-rugby-match-36544024.html

They are a disgrace to Irish rugby.

They should have just relaxed and took some drugs.  That stuff is almost encouraged in other provinces these days.
By the time Gardai arrived to the incident there was nobody there.  Gardai say they are not investigating.  St Michael’s won the match 27-13.

Drug cheats allowed to play for a province, former player sentenced for possession of recreational drugs, recent players in the dock for varying degrees of sexual assault.  And beyond all that some drunk-middle-aged-should-know-better-posing-bunch-of-wannabe-toffs act like idiots and that is what is the disgrace to Irish rugby.

Thats just funny bearing in mind that the brawl was about 50 feet from Donnybrook Garda Station. These guys really think they are above the law when in fact all they are are thugs.
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Post by profitius on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 12:05 am

Boys will be boys.

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Post by Sin é on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 8:05 am

profitius wrote:Boys will be boys.

Boys will be boys my hat. The carryon at and after these Leinster Schools Cup games are generally disgraceful and out of control. If something similar happened at a Shamrock Rovers game in Tallaght there would have been severeal arrests. Its being on too long now. Jonathan Sexton was attacked with a knife after a game at a nightclub in Rathmines in 2008, so its not as if there hasn't been any serious warning signs that this is just 'boys being boys'.
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Post by SecretFly on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 10:35 am

Sin é wrote:

Thats just funny bearing in mind that the brawl was about 50 feet from Donnybrook Garda Station. These guys really think they are above the law when in fact all they are are thugs.

Some might agree with you there, sin. And that's the dangerous part......................

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Post by Collapse2005 on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 6:56 pm

Best of luck to Kiss

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Post by Collapse2005 on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 6:58 pm

Sin é wrote:
profitius wrote:Boys will be boys.

Boys will be boys my hat. The carryon at and after these Leinster Schools Cup games are generally disgraceful and out of control. If something similar happened at a Shamrock Rovers game in Tallaght there would have been severeal arrests. Its being on too long now. Jonathan Sexton was attacked with a knife after a game at a nightclub in Rathmines in 2008, so its not as if there hasn't been any serious warning signs that this is just 'boys being boys'.

Must be a new thing. In my day nothing ever happened. Been to loads of cup matches

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Post by profitius on Sun 11 Feb 2018, 1:50 pm

There's talk that Munster have sold enough 10 year tickets to pay off the debt and have a nice surplus. As well as that there is a waiting list for season tickets.
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