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This Week's Fixtures

	_________	Voter 1	_________	Voter 2	_________	Voter 3
Deportivo Wanka v Fußball	_________	Afro	_________	Hero	_________	Miky
Kalamazoo Outrage v Olympique Marswag	_________	Marky	_________	Afro	_________	Bam
Cape-Coat Mysterious Dwarfs v Deportivo Moron	_________	Twist	_________	Marky	_________	Olly
Shakhtar Senseless v SAS	_________	Nando	_________	Twist	_________	Tino
Ebbsfleet United v Fiorentina Turner	_________	Hero	_________	Nando	_________	Trebs

This Week's Key Deadlines

For this week:

Tuesday 9am - Foreigns reopen for this game week
Tuesday 9am - Lawyers acceptable
Wednedsday Evening - Injuries announced for this game week
Thursday - Squad locks for this game week
Friday - Tactics due in at midnight

Going forward...

Friday 9am this week - TP's and Releases reopen for business
Monday - Results in by midnight
Tuesday - Lawyers announced at midday
Wednesday Evening - Injuries to be announced
Thursday Midnight - Squad lockout for that gameweek
Friday - Releases and Tp's open again

These are the rules from now on, please follow them.

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Team	_________	Manager
Cape-Coast Mysterious Dwarfs	_________	Afro
Deportivo Moron	_________	Bam
Deportivo Wanka	_________	Nando
Ebbsfleet United	_________	Twist
Fiorentina Turner	_________	Tino
Fußball	_________	Trebs
Kalamazoo Outrage	_________	Hero
Olympique Marswag	_________	Miky
SAS	_________	Olly

Match	_________	Transfer	_________	Other
Fixtures	_________	Lawyers	_________	Rules
Table	_________	Foreigns	_________	Youth Rules
Injuries	_________	Releases	_________	Press Conferences
	_________	Confirmation	_________
	_________	Loans	_________

I also only have 3 sets of votes so far so will need to wait most likely.

Afro wrote:

Afro wrote:Mainly because it gave an easy option and people used to sit on the fence. The leagues used to have loads of draws.

But more so, its the way the voting works - 3 people vote, each picks their winner. It worked well in the last league due to its simplicity and ease, and we weren't waiting for people to do their votes every week.

Hmm I can see the sense - but you'll need to alter the determination of the league if teams finish on the same points - because it'll be the same number of wins as cant be different if they finish on the same points, makes sense for it to be the result of the matchup between the two teams tbh

votes sent to maggle

Just went to vote, don't have any games to vote on. Happy days.

Hero wrote:Just went to vote, don't have any games to vote on. Happy days.

Good work - want to vote on one of mine instead as I am now doing 3 games?

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:

Afro wrote:

Afro wrote:Mainly because it gave an easy option and people used to sit on the fence. The leagues used to have loads of draws.

But more so, its the way the voting works - 3 people vote, each picks their winner. It worked well in the last league due to its simplicity and ease, and we weren't waiting for people to do their votes every week.

Hmm I can see the sense - but you'll need to alter the determination of the league if teams finish on the same points - because it'll be the same number of wins as cant be different if they finish on the same points, makes sense for it to be the result of the matchup between the two teams tbh

From the rules

Votes – All managers vote on different games assigned for that week – simple vote on who wins (no draws). Unanimous win gets +2 “goal difference”, split vote win gets +1 “goal difference”

No match scores or goalscorers.

League table decided by:
1) Number of wins
2) Goal difference
3) Results between two teams

Afro wrote:

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:

Afro wrote:

Afro wrote:Mainly because it gave an easy option and people used to sit on the fence. The leagues used to have loads of draws.

But more so, its the way the voting works - 3 people vote, each picks their winner. It worked well in the last league due to its simplicity and ease, and we weren't waiting for people to do their votes every week.

Hmm I can see the sense - but you'll need to alter the determination of the league if teams finish on the same points - because it'll be the same number of wins as cant be different if they finish on the same points, makes sense for it to be the result of the matchup between the two teams tbh

From the rules

Votes – All managers vote on different games assigned for that week – simple vote on who wins (no draws). Unanimous win gets +2 “goal difference”, split vote win gets +1 “goal difference”

No match scores or goalscorers.

League table decided by:
1) Number of wins
2) Goal difference
3) Results between two teams

notice "you'll need to alter" - if two teams finish on the same points with no draws, they will have the same amount of wins automatically...

There are no points

Afro wrote:

Hero wrote:Just went to vote, don't have any games to vote on. Happy days.

Good work - want to vote on one of mine instead as I am now doing 3 games?

Sure no probs, which one?

Hero wrote:

Afro wrote:

Hero wrote:Just went to vote, don't have any games to vote on. Happy days.

Good work - want to vote on one of mine instead as I am now doing 3 games?

Sure no probs, which one?

Ha! Just realised one of them is the same one as you aren't voting on, so I only have two.

One of the two is your game, so you'd best not do that one!

I tell you what, I'll vote on the other (Olympique Marswag v Fiorentina Turner) because one of the voters is Bam - if he is not around, we might call on you vote on it anyway.

I'm gonna crack on and do lawyers in a min then ready for tomorrow x

Are lawyers for tomorrow or Wednesday btw?

Not sure tbh - we staggered the times last week, but was that just because it was week 1?

Olly has a point.
In a 10 game season

Bambam
+1 wins - 7
+2 wins - 0
-1 losses - 0
-2 losses - 3

= +1


Nando
+1 wins - 0
+2 wins - 4
-1 losses - 6
-2 losses - 0

= +2

Is it right than Nando beats Bambam to the title in this circumstance?

Trebs wrote:Olly has a point.
In a 10 game season

Bambam
+1 wins - 7
+2 wins - 0
-1 losses - 0
-2 losses - 3

= +1


Nando
+1 wins - 0
+2 wins - 4
-1 losses - 6
-2 losses - 0

= +2

Is it right than Nando beats Bambam to the title in this circumstance?

No. Bam has 7 wins, whereas Nando has 4, so Bam would win.

So it's separated by wins then points difference.
That's absolutely fine if so.

I guess the only argument is the difference or head to head record but we've sort of agreed the former

Trebs wrote:So it's separated by wins then points difference.
That's absolutely fine if so.

I guess the only argument is the difference or head to head record but we've sort of agreed the former

That's right. The confusion comes from "points"/"goal difference". When you win, the +1 or +2 you get isn't really points. I've called it Goal Difference for lack of a better name

Miky do you still have the initial squads for everyone? Any chance you could restore it on main page? Perhaps in a spoiler.

Just easier to do a search and see if a TM target has been taken.

We can do foreigns tomorrow Yes?

Yes i have them, i took them out to save space when trying to fix a bit of coding in the homepage for Afro.

Remember its the voting deadline tonight guys.

Holymiky wrote:Yes i have them, i took them out to save space when trying to fix a bit of coding in the homepage for Afro.

Just laziness on my part mate don't worry. Have checked each team. I'm already for my foreign target tomorrow

Can I just get clarification on when we can accept lawyers. On the week 2 post it says midday tomorrow.

Does that mean if I have a foreign, and that is 9am tomorrow, I gotta wait until 12pm if I'm using lawyers money???

Yeah pretty much. Although with my offers rejected immediately I'll have a quiet week myself

Question, if we're allowed 2 TP's and 2 Youth TP's, but we don't use the two "senior" TP's, could we use all 4 on the youth signings?

No Marky, don't think so.

That's a bit silly. Why can't it all start at 9am, beginning of the game week?

Well I'm going to post my foreign at 9am and state money will come from lawyers which I will accept at 12pm. Any issues with that?

Yes because you won't have the money for the deal so you can't buy. I don't see what the big issue is with waiting a few hours? You have a few days to buy players and sell lawyers as well.

I have issues with it sorry Twist, I accepted the huge cash offer on Belotti knowing I'd then get first bite on my targets come tomorrow.

The issue is if someone comes in at 10am with money in their pocket and gets my target. It's not sour grapes (I won't have a paddy) but having it like this makes it open for problems.

If lawyers are posted before game week start then have it all start at 9am. If not, lawyers should go up at 12pm that day where we can accept them straight away. Or game week starts at 12pm. Whichever.

You can't blame someone planning ahead when they know what cash is gonna come in.

Alright Hero I can see how it wouldn't be fair on you. I still think everything should be open come 9am at the start of the game week.

I have planned ahead and now the goalposts are being moved for others which is my issue.

It’s only tomorrow that there will be a problem.

The TP week restarts Friday this week, and then every Friday after that. Lawyers will continue to be Tuesday.

For this week:

Tuesday 9am - Foreigns reopen for this game week
Tuesday 12pm - Lawyers acceptable
Wednedsday Evening - Injuries announced for this game week
Thursday - Squad locks for this game week
Friday - Tactics due in at midnight

Going forward...

Friday 9am this week - TP's and Releases reopen for business
Monday - Results in by midnight
Tuesday - Lawyers announced at midday
Wednesday Evening - Injuries to be announced
Thursday Midnight - Squad lockout for that gameweek
Friday - Releases and Tp's open again

These are the rules from now on, please follow them.

And as long as your target isn't the same as mine I'm not then fussed if you got them at 9am

Hero wrote:I have planned ahead and now the goalposts are being moved for others which is my issue.

I'm not moving the goalposts. If that's how it is that's how it is. But biggest death of these leagues where you just get disappointed and think Frak it. Look at Trebs with Rashford. I wasn't aware I had to wait until 12pm tomorrow for lawyers and all seems a bit of a set up.

I don't see why people get so annoyed in these leagues, how many players are there on TM? I know there are an elite set but there are plenty more targets, OR go big for them in the league domestically.

Last week we could accept our lawyers from 9am, so that’s what it should be this week if we aren’t moving the goalposts.

It's not annoyance as such. Just disappointment. At least on my part. I thought I was all ready to go come 9am. Then saw it's 12pm lawyers.

I'm glad you see my point Afro. I'm not trying to cause issue but why suddenly 12pm instead of 9am? I'm not accusing Hero of anything but come on....looks dodgy

All i know is, we need different discussion on here ASAP.

I know the league is fresh so rules need to be discussed but we always seem to end up talking about them.

Also this Miky's ruling is final thing doesn't seem to be a thing which EVERYONE agreed to when they signed up.

I have no problem with 12, but as Hero pointed out we shouldn’t change the times each week. They should always be the same.

Miky, no need for that. We are just discussing. Doesn't mean anything has to change.

Simply put, why is it lawyers tomorrow at 12pm? Why 12pm? When it was 9am last week. Explaining why will get me to understand the issue. Saying "That's the way it is" just puts me off

Otherwise it just looks like Hero has a massive advantage deliberately. And that's not fair.

Twist..

The problem is, whenever i try to set a rule, it's questioned. I don't mind talking through rules but understand it from my point of view, in the past when running things, it's like i could say the grass is green and the sky is blue, but people would still claim it's purple if you get what i mean. I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about rules, but there comes a time when we all just need to focus on the league and be done with it.

Right that's fine.

So why is it 12pm?

Apologies did think it was 12pm last week so my error. The window though did open before lawyers last week.

People could buy players on the Tuesday.
Lawyers weren't until wednesday

so timing was out but I was still correct on it being window before lawyers.

So shall we just save all of this and change it to 9am tomorrow?

Also true. TPs opened 9am Tuesday and Lawyers 9am Wednesday.

I think 9am is fair myself. Last week we all had an even playing field so foreigns could be earlier. Now just keep it to start of game week.

Hero, I very much doubt you will miss out. If it's a biggun only you have the cash. But I think to be consistent it's gotta be 9am