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Post by RDW on Mon 27 Nov 2017, 7:57 am

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2017 Autumn Test Results

Scotland 44 - Samoa 38 Smile

Tries - Hogg, Jones, McInally (2), Dunbar, Horne

Scotland 17 - New Zealand 22 Crying or Very sad

Tries - J Gray, Jones

Scotland 53 - Australia 24 Yahoo

McGuigan (2), Price, Maitland, J Gray, Jones, Barclay, McInally


6N fixtures

Wales V Scotland
Scotland V France

Scotland V England

Ireland V Scotland
Italy V Scotland




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Post by 123456789 on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 2:43 pm

The fixture actually comes before the other games so it could be that Wales are intending to play five games in the autum. The other thing is presumably the fixture will be played alternate to the six nations I.e the six nations fixture is in Wales this year so the dossier weir cup will be in Scotland. So it balances the books in that Scotland effectively play three home nh games and three away now and vice versa.

Is there already a cup played between wales and Scotland in the six nations? I know we have a cup with Australia, Ireland and of course England.

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Post by tigertattie on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 2:44 pm

The awareness that the fixture will bring to MND will be great but surely to goodness the WRU would have to give some portion of the gate money to a MND charity.

I think the going rate for corporate events that are "charity endorsed" is 20% to 25% of the revenue generated! So a £50 ticket should see between £10 and £15 going to Doddie's charity! Surely???
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Post by 123456789 on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 4:58 pm

On the bbc the interview seemed to suggest it was almost a warm up for the autumn internationals. Not sure what to make of that. The more I think of it, whilst I absolutely agree that a game that raises money for such a great cause is absolutely brilliant and no matter how much awareness is raised it won’t be enough until a cure is found. However I’m not sure flogging our international players into more games is the best way to raise money for MND. I personally think turning the Scotland Wales six nations games would be a better and more sustainable way of raising awareness. That said the plan long term may not for it to be an extra match rather part of the autumn internationals and given its in World Cup season and we’ve only two summer games it might be no bad thing next year.

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Post by BigGee on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 5:24 pm

123456789 wrote: That said the plan long term may not for it to be an extra match rather part of the autumn internationals and given its in World Cup season and we’ve only two summer games it might be no bad thing next year.

We have got three games this summer, Canada, USA and Argentina.

The Argentina one was previously rumoured, but now confirmed.


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Post by 123456789 on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 8:12 pm

I suppose in theory it would give toonie an extra game, putting him up to 23-24 games in charge prior to the World Cup depending on warm ups for the World Cup.
If we can use them to blood new fly halves prior to the World Cup, in fact Greig Laidlaw could be an ideal scrum half to blood the likes of Adam Hastings alongside.

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Post by The Oracle on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 8:44 pm

WRU chief:

Doddie and his Trustees launched the registered charity ‘My Name’5 Doddie Foundation’ and a series of Welsh rugby initiatives over the course of the weekend will raise money for the foundation and bring Scottish and Welsh rugby communities together.

“The game carries with it years of tradition and rivalry which should appeal to rugby supporters across both countries and we will be encouraging a range of fixtures across the community game to reflect the history of our two great rugby nations.

“We will also provide a new ‘Doddie Weir Cup’, with related contributions made to the ‘My Name’5 Doddie Foundation’, which will be played for whenever the two sides meet in Cardiff.

“Scotland’s visit is the result of some innovative thinking from the national squads, rugby management and marketing teams of both nations and is set to light up another scintillating campaign.”
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Post by BigGee on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 9:17 pm

Does not sound as if they plan to donate any money from the match does it?

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Post by The Oracle on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 9:19 pm

The big bad Welsh?
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Post by BigGee on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 9:24 pm

Actually on re-reading that, they do refer to 'related contributions'

It would be nice to know what that actually meant?

I will reserve judgement for now.

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Post by The Oracle on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 9:28 pm

I doubt Scotland would have gone for it if the whole intention is for the Welsh to fleece a charity in the name of Dobbie Weir. Scotland would have had some input, as the quotes suggest.
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Post by RDW on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 9:33 pm

I don't think anyone is accusing WRU of fleecing a charity, it just needs some more details to released given they are linking an Autumn Test with raising money for charity!

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Post by 123456789 on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 9:52 pm

To be clear if Wales announced that they were hosting the game in the name of doddie weir and they would be giving the grand sum of £1 toward charity it would be better than not doing it. However it would be nice, if merely for curiosity’s sake, if BOTH the SRU and the WRU could clarify if this is to be an annual game in the autumn to raise money for charity or whether this is a launch of a doddie weir trophy to be competed for in the six nations for example every two years.

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Post by The Oracle on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 10:05 pm

The quote above sounds like the trophy will only be competed for when the sides meet in Cardiff, which is a bit weird. Could just be the wording of the quote though I guess.

Completely agree that we don’t know enough at the moment, and also agree that any charity is better than no charity. Just need some more info!
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Post by 123456789 on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 10:16 pm

The Oracle wrote:The quote above sounds like the trophy will only be competed for when the sides meet in Cardiff, which is a bit weird. Could just be the wording of the quote though I guess.

Completely agree that we don’t know enough at the moment, and also agree that any charity is better than no charity. Just need some more info!

Scotland haven’t won in Cardiff since 2002 seems quite clever to me, don’t want to be buying trophies you might not win

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Post by The Oracle on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 10:17 pm

123456789 wrote:
The Oracle wrote:The quote above sounds like the trophy will only be competed for when the sides meet in Cardiff, which is a bit weird. Could just be the wording of the quote though I guess.

Completely agree that we don’t know enough at the moment, and also agree that any charity is better than no charity. Just need some more info!

Scotland haven’t won in Cardiff since 2002 seems quite clever to me, don’t want to be buying trophies you might not win

They’ll be winning in two weeks time!
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Post by TJ on Fri 19 Jan 2018, 10:39 pm

stupid idea. We need less games not more and given we play wales in the 6N why play them again?

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Post by RDW on Sat 20 Jan 2018, 9:01 am

It is also going to impact on the clubs - the players will be withdrawn from club duty a week earlier than normal. I'm assuming this is outside the official test window so we won't be able to play exiles.

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Post by RDW on Sat 20 Jan 2018, 1:10 pm

George turner has gone off with a bad knee injury.

Feck.

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Post by RDW on Sat 20 Jan 2018, 1:20 pm

And now Dunbar off with a bad head knock.

Double feck.

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Post by 123456789 on Sat 20 Jan 2018, 1:56 pm

I do wonder if the Glasgow surface has anything to do with Dunbar’s knee injuries (I know this is a head knock this time) but Exeter don’t play Jack Nowell on synthetic surfaces because of his history of knee troubles, from my own experience I’d never had any trouble with my knees until my club moved to training on astro, within six months I was having trouble lasting the 80 without my knees hurting and within 12 I’d ruptured my acl.

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Post by BigGee on Sat 20 Jan 2018, 3:24 pm

Well the returning Scotland boys looked good.

Hoggy, Russell and Seymour can be inked into the starting team. Why did anyone ever doubt the class of Tommy Seymour, he clearly was just a bit jaded and was carrying an injury.

Hopefully Dunbar will be fine by the time of the Wales game, but not looking so good for Turner, though he did not look so bad walking off.

Who would be our next hooker to call up? Cochran I would imagine.

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Post by 123456789 on Sat 20 Jan 2018, 5:47 pm

I think the priority for Dunbar should be getting him fit for the France game, Wales are playing a 12 with dimensions almost like for like for Taylor these days, the need for him against France has decreased with Basteraud’s suspension.

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Post by George Carlin on Sun 21 Jan 2018, 9:12 am

Jaysus - I log off for a week and these boards have turned into TripAdvisor.
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Post by Hazel Sapling on Sun 21 Jan 2018, 11:29 am

Well Wales are all over the place on the injury report. L Williams fails a fitness test but North is back. Biggar may be out with Priestland gone. Do they play Parkes in the centres and move Owen Williams to 10 or start Davies/Anscombe at 10? Going to be difficult for Toonie to read.

Really disappointed by the 4th fixture if the charity aspect is less than a quarter of the money. I can understand the timing with the WC for next year (gives an extra game to get Hastings, G Horne, Kinghorn, Ritchie, etc. up to scratch). On the other, it puts an additional game for the Scots club teams to cover for. Getting 2 teams into the Champions Cup regularly needs to be the goal and this will make that harder.

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Post by RDW on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 10:32 am

GC I think the Scotland v Wales game deserves a match thread of your caliber!

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Post by BigGee on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 1:57 pm

Cochrane comes into the squad to replace Turner. Looks like he will be out for a while, did not look to good at the time.

Ritchie Gray misses the first week with a calf problem. No-one else coming in for now, we have plenty of decent second rows, so not such an issue.

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 2:01 pm

urghhhhh I can't wait for this. It's been a while since I have looked forward to a 6N. Has the autumn got false dawn written all over it again?
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Post by R!skysports on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 2:55 pm

I think if we get a pack out, we can count that as a success Shocked

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 4:17 pm

R!skysports wrote:I think if we get a pack out, we can count that as a success Shocked

I'm standing by my phone, I can'r be that far away from a test start.
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Post by highland_scot on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 4:38 pm

I used to be a hooker/scrumhalf... Odd combination, but I could definitely bring some "variety" off the bench. Until I get broken or break down, not sure which would come first!

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Post by jimbopip on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 6:35 pm

It seems that Ritchie Gray will miss the first match. Crying or Very sad

So... with Gray, Gilchrist and Toolis will Toonie go for the club pairing and leave Ickle Jonny on the bench? That could be his toughest call.

I think that the area which could lose us the game is not the front row but the centres.
Shrek-Rambo-Angela is a perfectly serviceable starting combo. Bhatti-Lawson-Rae isn't quite so solid but should last the last 20.

Whereas both 12's, Dunbar and Taylor have huge question marks over their fitness and  both could be missing.
At 13 Huw Jones has not exactly won friends and influenced people so far at Scotstoun. Chris Harris may be one for the future but I don't think a the Millenium on the opening day of the 6 Nations is the place to make your first start. angel is still short of match fitness.
It could be Furra Linee-Grigg and while that is exciting in attack it's not the biggest barricade we could erect in defence.

I think we'll see
1) Shrek
2) Rambo
3) Angela
4) Toolis
5) GG (for 8 1/2 minutes then Jonny)
6) Batman (if he's fit he plays)
7) Hamish Frae The Glen
8) Barcs capt
9) Sonic
10) Dancer
11) Seymour
12) Taylor
13) Jones
14) Kinghorn(if the Welshwalians engage in Warrenball then he's almost as good as Hoggy at running the ball back)
15) Hoggy

16) Lawson
17) Bhatti
18)Rae (better suited to Toonie's dynamic game plan)
19) Ickle Jonny
20) CDP
21) Henners
22) Horne
23) Barry McGuigan

Of course it's Toonie so who knows.

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Post by RDW on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 9:21 pm

http://www.international.ruggas.co.za/?p=2173

One to watch in the future.

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Post by reallybored on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 9:23 pm

jimbopip wrote:It seems that Ritchie Gray will miss the first match. Crying or Very sad

So... with Gray, Gilchrist and Toolis will Toonie go for the club pairing and leave Ickle Jonny on the bench? That could be his toughest call.

I think that the area which could lose us the game is not the front row but the centres.
Shrek-Rambo-Angela is a perfectly serviceable starting combo. Bhatti-Lawson-Rae isn't quite so solid but should last the last 20.

Whereas both 12's, Dunbar and Taylor have huge question marks over their fitness and  both could be missing.
At 13 Huw Jones has not exactly won friends and influenced people so far at Scotstoun. Chris Harris may be one for the future but I don't think a the Millenium on the opening day of the 6 Nations is the place to make your first start. angel is still short of match fitness.
It could be Furra Linee-Grigg and while that is exciting in attack it's not the biggest barricade we could erect in defence.

I think we'll see
1) Shrek
2) Rambo
3) Angela
4) Toolis
5) GG (for 8 1/2 minutes then Jonny)
6) Batman (if he's fit he plays)
7) Hamish Frae The Glen
8) Barcs capt
9) Sonic
10) Dancer
11) Seymour
12) Taylor
13) Jones
14) Kinghorn(if the Welshwalians engage in Warrenball then he's almost as good as Hoggy at running the ball back)
15) Hoggy

16) Lawson
17) Bhatti
18)Rae (better suited to Toonie's dynamic game plan)
19) Ickle Jonny
20) CDP
21) Henners
22) Horne
23) Barry McGuigan

Of course it's Toonie so who knows.
More chance of you playing than that happening, one of the first names on the teamsheet.

I've been impressed with McCallum at TH and think he offers more than Rae in the loose.

Appreciate what you're saying about centres; been underwhelmed by Jones for Glasgow but his Test record is incredible, Bennett is looking dangerous for Edinburgh if a little rusty, Grigg is a great wee player.  Question marks over Dunbar & Taylor but be surprised if one wasn't available next weekend.  Jones / Bennett could be a very dangerous partnership though.

Would like to see Denton in the 23 but expect Wilson to play if he's fit.

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Post by BigGee on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 9:37 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:http://www.international.ruggas.co.za/?p=2173

One to watch in the future.

Well he sounds pretty Scottish!

The SQ people in SA clearly doing their work.

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Post by TJ on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 10:51 pm

Sonic? who do you mean? Laidlaw?

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Post by Scottrf on Mon 22 Jan 2018, 10:56 pm

Ali Price I guess.

Would be better to use names...

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Post by lostinwales on Tue 23 Jan 2018, 12:23 am

Scottrf wrote:Ali Price I guess.

Would be better to use names...

The nicknames are fun.

But it would be nice to occasionally get a translation...

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Post by MacKnocked-on on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 10:16 am

Whoever does the SRU social media stuff surpassed themselves last night for ineptitude with their Twitter efforts 'covering' the U20s v Club International game at Murrayfield. No team sheets being the most obvious man sausage-up, surely they should realise that a lot of fans are interested in seeing who's involved and who might come through to the main squad in time.
RDW spotted the story about the SA prop Nathan McBeth and I only found the U20 team sheet by chance on another Twitter feed after giving up on the official SRU account.

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Post by RDW on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 10:17 am

Yeah I tweeted them asking for lineups - as did a lot of people - but nothing. You got a link for the tweet that posted the lineup?

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Post by MacKnocked-on on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 10:32 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Yeah I tweeted them asking for lineups - as did a lot of people - but nothing. You got a link for the tweet that posted the lineup?

I found it on @theoffsideline on Twitter, just the U20s team though, not the club side. Among the U20s; a Gloucester scrumhalf who isn't Ben Vellacott, Gary Graham's younger brother, a couple of players playing in France and a Northampton No8 who seems to have switched from the England age grades.

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Post by RDW on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 10:37 am

https://theoffsideline.com/20s-learn-hard-way-ruthless-club-xv/

Looks like a very young under 20s team - I know a few of the players and they've only just left school.

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Post by MacKnocked-on on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 10:41 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:https://theoffsideline.com/20s-learn-hard-way-ruthless-club-xv/

Looks like a very young under 20s team - I know a few of the players and they've only just left school.

In addition to the prop McBeth, there was another SA player featuring last night in Marc Morrison, the Golden Lions stand-off.

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Post by IanBru on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 10:45 am

MacKnocked-on wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:https://theoffsideline.com/20s-learn-hard-way-ruthless-club-xv/

Looks like a very young under 20s team - I know a few of the players and they've only just left school.

In addition to the prop McBeth, there was another SA player featuring last night in Marc Morrison, the Golden Lions stand-off.
Marc Morrison? The Marc Morrison?

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Post by MacKnocked-on on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 10:51 am

The SQ programme is certainly getting around; flanker Bailey Wilson of 'United in Utah' also in the U20 squad

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Post by tigertattie on Wed 24 Jan 2018, 10:57 am

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Post by EWT Spoons on Thu 25 Jan 2018, 3:30 pm

Appreciate we've not really discussed the u20s vs club match, but there is an interesting article about the exiled players who are part of the u20 squad.  Still light on detail, but I found it interesting at least:

Offside line wrote:IT was a tough start to the international season for the Scotland Under-20 squad last [Tuesday] night when they slumped to a 7-41 defeat to the Scotland Club XV in a pre-Six Nations training match on the back pitches at BT Murrayfield.

Head coach Stevie Scott said afterwards that he is confident that his young charges will have learned a lot from the experience and will be in better equipped for their clash against Wales at Colwyn Bay on 2nd February as a result, and he might just have a point. With only two survivors from last summer’s Junior World Cup campaign still involved, it is inevitably going to take time for a virtually brand-new squad to get used to each other and to the demands of playing this level of representative rugby.

Of the 31-man squad named for this week’s game, 20 have been involved in the Scottish domestic leagues this season at either BT Premiership or National One level, while 11 would traditionally have been described as ‘exiles’ but are now categorised as part of Scottish Rugby’s bold new ‘SQ’ programme.

This was the first real opportunity we have had to see the ‘SQ’ programme in action. The scheme was launched at last summer’s SRU AGM with the stated aim of developing a far-reaching network of scouts across the globe in an effort to maximise the potential to harvest ‘Scottish Qualified’ players capable of bolstering the national cause.

Some of the SQ players involved on Tuesday night will have been familiar to Scottish rugby supporters who have been paying close attention, while a few others have appeared from completely left-field. With the Under-20 squad for the Six Nations due to be named tomorrow [Thursday], some of these players will inevitably drop out of contention for an age-grade cap, but they are bound to remain on Scottish Rugby’s radar.



So, this is what we know about all 11 of those exiles at the moment [more details to follow when they are made available] –



Devante Onojaife – No 8 – Northampton Saints
Born in Colchester but only took up rugby after his family moved to Dubai when was 10-years-old, playing for his school, Jumeirah College, and Dubai Exiles. Older brother Jordan was picked up by Northampton Saints after impressing during a summer camp with the Midlands club in 2011, and Devante followed him back to England three years later.

Onojaife represented England at Under-18 level in 2016 – playing at prop against Wales and France – and he subsequently signed a professional contract with the Saints. He has made one senior appearance for the club so as a 77th minute replacement at blindside flanker for his big brother in their 16-24 victory over Newcastle Falcons in the Anglo-Welsh Cup in November 2016. It is not clear at this stage how he qualifies to play for Scotland.

Bailey Wilson – Flanker – United in Utah
Born in Australia but moved to the USA at the age of 12 when his family relocated to Florida, before eventually landing in Utah in 2014. He played for USA at both Under-19 and Under-20 level as recently as last summer. Scottish connection to be confirmed.

Charlie Chapman – Scrum-Half – Gloucester
A member of the senior academy at his hometown club of Gloucester and plays regularly for Hartpury College – where he is a student – in the second tier English Championship this season. Looking to follow in his club-mate and fellow scrum-half Ben Vellacott’s footsteps by representing Scotland at Under-20 level in the Six Nations.

Nathan McBeth – Loose-Head Prop – Golden Lions
Capped by South Africa Schools, and is tied to the Golden Lions union by a long-term (three-year) contract. He qualifies for Scotland through his paternal family. Set to return to South Africa later this year to see out his contract, and is apparently keeping his options open with regards to his international eligibility. As of 1st January, unions may no longer nominate their Under-20 side as their second representative team, meaning players capped at Under-20 level are not tied to that nation.

The Lions coaching staff believe McBeth is capable of excelling in Super Rugby, and has the potential to become a Springbok. It is understood that Rassie Erasmus, South Africa’s director of rugby, tried – and failed – personally to convince the player to remain in South Africa and represent the Springbok Under-20s.

Marc Morrison – Stand-Off – TBC
Played a key role for the Golden Lions Under-18 team which was victorious at Craven Week – South Africa’s prestigious schoolboy tournament for the country’s best young talent – last summer. Started looking overseas for rugby opportunities when he was not offered an academy place in South Africa and Scotland was a natural destination given that his father was born here. Arrived in Scotland on 5th January. Dislocated his finger in last night’s trial match but remains in contention to be named in the Six Nations squad tomorrow.

Charlie Gowling – Scrum-Half – Stade Français
Born in Shrewsbury and played for England Under-16 before switching allegiance to Scotland for whom he qualifies through his grandmother. He developed as a rugby player while on a scholarship at Sedbergh School in Cumbria and signed for the Newcastle Falcons Academy in 2015. After a season there, he agreed a two year deal with Stade Francais. He has been losing out to 19-year-old Frenchman Arthur Coville as back-up scrum-half for the top side. Gowling has featured regularly for the Under-22 Espoirs side and started in last Sunday’s match away to Perpignan before linking up with the international squad.

Ewan Johnson– Lock – Racing 92
A member of the Racing Metro 92 Academy, having signed for the club based on the edge of Paris at the start of this season. Prior to that he played for the Federal 3 side Plouzane in Brittany, which has the label of France’s most remote club. He lived in the Breton town with his parents and brothers – his younger sibling Lewis recently made his debut for Plouzane. Academy players train on a regular basis with the club’s senor players including former Glasgow lock Leone Nakarawa, and Johnson will be joined at the spectacular U Arena next season by Finn Russell.  He was part of the Scotland Under-19 squad which met at Oriam at the start of November.

Bradley Clements – Hooker – Ealing
Another graduate of Sedbergh School and now listed as playing for Ealing. He represented Scotland at Under-19 level last season.

Harry Butler – Lock – Hartpury College
Played for Scotland Under-18 last year whilst part of the London Irish academy. Has since moved to Hartpury College, who are linked with Gloucester.

Callum McLelland – Stand-Off – Edinburgh Rugby
Not technically an exile anymore after signing for Edinburgh earlier this season, but worth a mention after being presented as the poster boy of the SQ programme when he moved north and switched codes from the Castleford Tigers academy set-up last November.

Rory McMichael – Centre – Glasgow Hawks
Qualifies to wear the thistle through his mother and payed for Scotland at Under-16 and Under-18 level. Was a member of the Harlequins and then the London Irish academy set-ups but was told by the latter that there would not be room for him in their senior academy programme after leaving Wellington School at the end of last season. Trained briefly with Glasgow Hawks last summer before heading off to teach in China for five months. Returned to Scotland [and Hawks] last month.

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Post by tigertattie on Thu 25 Jan 2018, 3:45 pm

some very very far casting of the net going on here!

Some of these boys have probably never set foot in Scotland until recently. I just hope that we've got folk carefully looking at the eligibility rules to make sure we're not picking guys who will end up no being eligible to play!
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Post by RDW on Fri 02 Feb 2018, 8:51 pm

Men against boys in the under 20s game tonight (live on BBC website) - could be a long tournament for a very young Scotland team

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Post by BigGee on Fri 02 Feb 2018, 9:17 pm

Its not all been bad.

Just getting killed by errors and a poor lineout in particular. We have actually had a decent amount of possession. Wales have been so much more clinical when they have had chances though.

McCleland, the rugby league convert with Edinburgh looks to have something about him.

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