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Post by munkian on Thu 30 Nov 2017, 1:58 pm

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RiscaGame wrote:Their backs. Wow.

Jackman really can't settle on a hooker mind.

Just saw Simon Thomas tweet Leon Brown has suffered a second concussion. If that's so, I wonder if that means the first wasn't really dealt with properly?

Are you sure ? I've read it that he suffered a concussion so he hasn't been picked INCASE he suffers another.
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Post by munkian on Mon 19 Feb 2018, 1:46 pm

Henson injured in training, back for Friday's game hopefully.

Kirchner is not a 10, sooner Jackman get this out of his head the better.
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Post by Stone Motif on Mon 19 Feb 2018, 4:23 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Agnus is on the move, and if assume Dorian is also one of those for the chop.  So I can understand the thought of why both with using him.  It’s not like titles or Euro-qualification are on the line, just use who will be there next season.

That said no excuses for not using Robinson or Henson when they are fit to bench, they should start

Dorian's got another year on his contract
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Post by LordDowlais on Mon 19 Feb 2018, 4:29 pm

It's OK, you'll have a Merthyr boy at 10 next season, at least he can bring some culture to that end of the world. Very Happy

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Post by mikey_dragon on Mon 19 Feb 2018, 6:07 pm

So all the positions I highlighted at the start of the season (10 being one of them) we still haven't recruited in and time's running out. We don't need an amateur from Merthyr, BJ get pillaging the S15 ffs.

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Post by RiscaGame on Mon 19 Feb 2018, 7:58 pm

To be fair, the “amateur” from Merthyr will probably be capable of knocking a kick or two over.

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Post by Stone Motif on Mon 19 Feb 2018, 8:00 pm

LordDowlais wrote:It's OK, you'll have a Merthyr boy at 10 next season, at least he can bring some culture to that end of the world. Very Happy

Because he's lived outside Wales, you mean?
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Post by Stone Motif on Mon 19 Feb 2018, 8:24 pm

RiscaGame wrote:To be fair, the “amateur” from Merthyr will probably be capable of knocking a kick or two over.

Mikey's on ignore, but I can tell exactly what he wrote just from this response
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Post by mikey_dragon on Mon 19 Feb 2018, 10:19 pm

RiscaGame wrote:To be fair, the “amateur” from Merthyr will probably be capable of knocking a kick or two over.

A bit like most 10's then really. Wasn't he only considered LV cup standard until they Bath had injuries at fly-half?

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Post by Cardiff Dave on Tue 20 Feb 2018, 8:21 am

Steffan wrote:Dropping the Newport-Gwent bit helped then?

Very Happy

All going to plan isn't it?

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Post by Stone Motif on Tue 20 Feb 2018, 8:32 am

Cardiff Dave wrote:
Steffan wrote:Dropping the Newport-Gwent bit helped then?

Very Happy

All going to plan isn't it?

All we had to do was 'be more regional'...
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Post by RiscaGame on Tue 20 Feb 2018, 9:32 am

This time next year Rodney. Particularly with our plonker at the helm.

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Post by munkian on Tue 20 Feb 2018, 11:22 am

Cardiff Dave wrote:
Steffan wrote:Dropping the Newport-Gwent bit helped then?

Very Happy

All going to plan isn't it?

Well, we have a ground and a coach for next season so, comparatively, yes.
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Post by ScarletSpiderman on Tue 20 Feb 2018, 12:27 pm

munkian wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Steffan wrote:Dropping the Newport-Gwent bit helped then?

Very Happy

All going to plan isn't it?

Well, we have a ground and a coach for next season so, comparatively, yes.  

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Post by RiscaGame on Tue 20 Feb 2018, 1:37 pm

Popped up Ebbw for training, seeing as I’m off. I know the injury update said Griffiths is close, but he seems very comfortable and doesn’t look strapped or anything.

Can’t see Henson here though.


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Post by RiscaGame on Tue 20 Feb 2018, 1:51 pm

There’s somebody running at ten that I don’t recognise (not Robson, AOB or Dorian). Zane has also done some run throughs there Very Happy

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Post by Cardiff Dave on Tue 20 Feb 2018, 1:59 pm

RiscaGame wrote:Popped up Ebbw for training, seeing as I’m off. I know the injury update said Griffiths is close, but he seems very comfortable and doesn’t look strapped or anything.

Can’t see Henson here though.


Ewe Columbo?

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Post by Cardiff Dave on Tue 20 Feb 2018, 2:03 pm

munkian wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Steffan wrote:Dropping the Newport-Gwent bit helped then?

Very Happy

All going to plan isn't it?

Well, we have a ground and a coach for next season so, comparatively, yes.  

Be nice mun.
Thought ewe had 73 grounds in any case?

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Post by munkian on Tue 20 Feb 2018, 2:06 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
munkian wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Steffan wrote:Dropping the Newport-Gwent bit helped then?

Very Happy

All going to plan isn't it?

Well, we have a ground and a coach for next season so, comparatively, yes.  

Be nice mun.
Thought ewe had 73 grounds in any case?

Each better than the last ! Ale
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Post by Stone Motif on Tue 20 Feb 2018, 2:30 pm

RiscaGame wrote:There’s somebody running at ten that I don’t recognise (not Robson, AOB or Dorian). Zane has also done some run throughs there Very Happy

Shaun Conner?
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Post by Stone Motif on Tue 20 Feb 2018, 2:31 pm

Argus reporting Henson out for six weeks
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Post by RiscaGame on Tue 20 Feb 2018, 2:58 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:There’s somebody running at ten that I don’t recognise (not Robson, AOB or Dorian). Zane has also done some run throughs there Very Happy

Shaun Conner?

Haha. No. But he was there strutting about a lot for somebody who isn’t very good at his job (attack coach Rolling Eyes )

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Post by RiscaGame on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 9:01 am

I wonder if the guy running plays at ten was Meyer actually. If he has longer hair than normal, it was him.

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Post by Stone Motif on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 10:31 am

RiscaGame wrote:I wonder if the guy running plays at ten was Meyer actually. If he has longer hair than normal, it was him.
Makes a lot of sense, played here for EV and can't be worse than Kirchner. I'd go Dozzer personally but obviously BJ is not a fan
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Post by RiscaGame on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 10:44 am

It does seem to be Dorian starting. I can't pretend to be his biggest fan (although every ten has their weaknesses), but there is no doubt he can kick his goals (well he is in great form for Ebbw) and he will be familiar with Fortress Eugene.

I've looked at the squad list (and I am aware I could've done that first of all Rolling Eyes ) and my best bet is it was Sam Beard. Ollie Griffiths was also defending at centre a fair bit and did jar his left ankle (which he then ran off).

Backrow seemed to be Shanks, Jumbo and Keddie for a lot of run throughs, which will probably be right for this game with Griffiths to come off the bench.

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Post by munkian on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 11:08 am

I thought Dorian was tidy enough and got a lot of unfair stick to be honest.
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Post by LordDowlais on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 11:19 am

So any of you going to EXP on Friday night ?

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Post by munkian on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 11:27 am

LordDowlais wrote:So any of you going to EXP on Friday night ?

I wont make it over from Bristol unfortunately. Enjoyed myself there when we beat the Saints in a pre season game a few years ago.
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Post by RiscaGame on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 11:33 am

It was enjoyable there for the Saints game, even given the weather. I have been looking forward to going back, particularly as it is relatively easier to get to for me (rail) and am looking forward to trying some new pubs Friday, as last time I had to drive.

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Post by munkian on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 11:46 am

RiscaGame wrote:It was enjoyable there for the Saints game, even given the weather. I have been looking forward to going back, particularly as it is relatively easier to get to for me (rail) and am looking forward to trying some new pubs Friday, as last time I had to drive.

I think I just drank in their small bar and then the clubhouse
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Post by LordDowlais on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 1:00 pm

munkian wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:It was enjoyable there for the Saints game, even given the weather. I have been looking forward to going back, particularly as it is relatively easier to get to for me (rail) and am looking forward to trying some new pubs Friday, as last time I had to drive.

I think I just drank in their small bar and then the clubhouse

I had some really wild nights there back in the 90's. My mate used to run the Bridge, or The Bridgend Hotel as it used to be called. It was especially good on a match day. I love EXP, one of my favourite places to watch a game, why Dragons do not play their more often is beyond me.

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Post by munkian on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 1:25 pm

LordDowlais wrote:
munkian wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:It was enjoyable there for the Saints game, even given the weather. I have been looking forward to going back, particularly as it is relatively easier to get to for me (rail) and am looking forward to trying some new pubs Friday, as last time I had to drive.

I think I just drank in their small bar and then the clubhouse

I had some really wild nights there back in the 90's. My mate used to run the Bridge, or The Bridgend Hotel as it used to be called. It was especially good on a match day. I love EXP, one of my favourite places to watch a game, why Dragons do not play their more often is beyond me.

I was lucky to get a lift but public transport there and back on a Friday after work is a nightmare unless the infrastructure has improved ?
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Post by LordDowlais on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 1:48 pm

munkian wrote:I was lucky to get a lift but public transport there and back on a Friday after work is a nightmare unless the infrastructure has improved ?

you can get a train straight into Ebbw now, they have a lovely new station where the steel works used to be. Walking distance to the town center and EXP as well. OK

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Post by munkian on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 2:01 pm

LordDowlais wrote:
munkian wrote:I was lucky to get a lift but public transport there and back on a Friday after work is a nightmare unless the infrastructure has improved ?

you can get a train straight into Ebbw now, they have a lovely new station where the steel works used to be. Walking distance to the town center and EXP as well. OK

Thanks, good to know OK
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Post by Stone Motif on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 2:55 pm

LordDowlais wrote:
munkian wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:It was enjoyable there for the Saints game, even given the weather. I have been looking forward to going back, particularly as it is relatively easier to get to for me (rail) and am looking forward to trying some new pubs Friday, as last time I had to drive.

I think I just drank in their small bar and then the clubhouse

I had some really wild nights there back in the 90's. My mate used to run the Bridge, or The Bridgend Hotel as it used to be called. It was especially good on a match day. I love EXP, one of my favourite places to watch a game, why Dragons do not play their more often is beyond me.

What apart from losing all their corporate hospitality income and it being miles away for the vast majority of their season ticket holders? Yeah, mystery
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Post by The Oracle on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 3:10 pm

Over on the PRO14 Whingefest thread a poster (they reckon its PhillBB) is claiming that according to a good source Henson has not been playing because his appearance fees are too expensive and we can’t afford them/refuse to pay them? Surely this is absolute bollix?
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Post by munkian on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 3:13 pm

The Oracle wrote:Over on the PRO14 Whingefest thread a poster (they reckon its PhillBB) is claiming that according to a good source Henson has not been playing because his appearance fees are too expensive and we can’t afford them/refuse to pay them? Surely this is absolute bollix?

Christ, is that still going ? Nothing to do with him being injured then Rolling Eyes
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Post by SecretFly on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 3:29 pm

He was looking for 80,000 extra smackeroos per game if game was against a top three side in the conference. I have my own sources and this is what I got told when I asked them to confirm Phi...RugbyFan's assertions.


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Post by RiscaGame on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 3:31 pm

The Oracle wrote:Over on the PRO14 Whingefest thread a poster (they reckon its PhillBB) is claiming that according to a good source Henson has not been playing because his appearance fees are too expensive and we can’t afford them/refuse to pay them? Surely this is absolute bollix?

That poster doesn’t seem to be Phil, but he is clearly a Gwlad poster given that it seems to be that circle that’s spreading it. I don’t buy it, but if it’s true then they wouldn’t have had to concoct an injury surely?

My understanding (via Chris Kirwan in the Argus a while ago) is Henson has another year automatically activated on his contract because of appearances made and so if he was in danger of requiring payment that we “can’t afford”, I’d suggest it would never have got that far and he would’ve had his appearances staggered some more.

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Post by Stone Motif on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 3:34 pm

SecretFly wrote:He was looking for 80,000 extra smackeroos per game if game was against a top three side in the conference.  I have my own sources and this is what I got told when I asked them to confirm Phi...RugbyFan's assertions.


As I posted on Gwlad one thing is for sure even at 36 years of age Gavin Henson can look back on a career that has been a case study in resilience and how to come back quickly from the injuries inherent in the modern game.
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Post by RiscaGame on Wed 21 Feb 2018, 3:35 pm

munkian wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:
munkian wrote:I was lucky to get a lift but public transport there and back on a Friday after work is a nightmare unless the infrastructure has improved ?

you can get a train straight into Ebbw now, they have a lovely new station where the steel works used to be. Walking distance to the town center and EXP as well. OK

Thanks, good to know OK

Yep, it was handy driving up yesterday and seeing where Ebbw Vale Town station is in relation to the ground. It’s literally turn left out of it, under the viaduct thing and you’re there. Easy really (well for me anyway).

I’m not sure what pubs to use, but The Bridge by the ground did look pretty decent and I did like the fact the club had Thatchers on tap (before it became more widespread).


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Post by Cardiff Dave on Thu 22 Feb 2018, 4:39 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:
munkian wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:It was enjoyable there for the Saints game, even given the weather. I have been looking forward to going back, particularly as it is relatively easier to get to for me (rail) and am looking forward to trying some new pubs Friday, as last time I had to drive.

I think I just drank in their small bar and then the clubhouse

I had some really wild nights there back in the 90's. My mate used to run the Bridge, or The Bridgend Hotel as it used to be called. It was especially good on a match day. I love EXP, one of my favourite places to watch a game, why Dragons do not play their more often is beyond me.

What apart from losing all their corporate hospitality income and it being miles away for the vast majority of their season ticket holders? Yeah, mystery

A magical mystery, step right this way.
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Post by Stone Motif on Thu 22 Feb 2018, 4:54 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:
munkian wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:It was enjoyable there for the Saints game, even given the weather. I have been looking forward to going back, particularly as it is relatively easier to get to for me (rail) and am looking forward to trying some new pubs Friday, as last time I had to drive.

I think I just drank in their small bar and then the clubhouse

I had some really wild nights there back in the 90's. My mate used to run the Bridge, or The Bridgend Hotel as it used to be called. It was especially good on a match day. I love EXP, one of my favourite places to watch a game, why Dragons do not play their more often is beyond me.

What apart from losing all their corporate hospitality income and it being miles away for the vast majority of their season ticket holders? Yeah, mystery

A magical mystery, step right this way.
Ewe on the bus?

Not this time, had another Stone Clone for Xmas. He has taken to night time sleeping like Zane Kirchner to the no10 position
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Post by The Oracle on Thu 22 Feb 2018, 5:25 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:
munkian wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:It was enjoyable there for the Saints game, even given the weather. I have been looking forward to going back, particularly as it is relatively easier to get to for me (rail) and am looking forward to trying some new pubs Friday, as last time I had to drive.

I think I just drank in their small bar and then the clubhouse

I had some really wild nights there back in the 90's. My mate used to run the Bridge, or The Bridgend Hotel as it used to be called. It was especially good on a match day. I love EXP, one of my favourite places to watch a game, why Dragons do not play their more often is beyond me.

What apart from losing all their corporate hospitality income and it being miles away for the vast majority of their season ticket holders? Yeah, mystery

A magical mystery, step right this way.
Ewe on the bus?

Not this time, had another Stone Clone for Xmas. He has taken to night time sleeping like Zane Kirchner to the no10 position

That bad, eh? Ouch! I feel your pain!
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Post by Cardiff Dave on Fri 23 Feb 2018, 7:45 am

ScarletSpiderman wrote:
munkian wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Steffan wrote:Dropping the Newport-Gwent bit helped then?

Very Happy

All going to plan isn't it?

Well, we have a ground and a coach for next season so, comparatively, yes.  

Laugh

With regards to coaches departing etc (fnaar, fnaar), I wonder how many will be departing from Dave this evening? Half a dozen at least, shewerly? Bloos used to put on two at Leckwith, IIRC. Free though they were for ST holders.

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Post by munkian on Fri 23 Feb 2018, 10:07 am

Shewerley they should look at how many non Dave Parade regulars actually turn up ?

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Post by Cardiff Dave on Fri 23 Feb 2018, 10:15 am

munkian wrote:Shewerley they should look at how many non Dave Parade regulars actually turn up ?


How would they know though?

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Post by The Oracle on Fri 23 Feb 2018, 11:20 am

Cardiff Dave wrote:
munkian wrote:Shewerley they should look at how many non Dave Parade regulars actually turn up ?


How would they know though?

Shoes, Dave. Rodney Parade regulars have shoes. EXP regulars don't. Simple Wink

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Post by munkian on Fri 23 Feb 2018, 11:34 am

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Post by Cardiff Dave on Fri 23 Feb 2018, 11:48 am

The Oracle wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
munkian wrote:Shewerley they should look at how many non Dave Parade regulars actually turn up ?


How would they know though?

Shoes, Dave.  Rodney Parade regulars have shoes.  EXP regulars don't.  Simple Wink


Moonshine and banjos?

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Post by SecretFly on Fri 23 Feb 2018, 12:00 pm

The Oracle wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
munkian wrote:Shewerley they should look at how many non Dave Parade regulars actually turn up ?


How would they know though?

Shoes, Dave.  Rodney Parade regulars have shoes.  EXP regulars don't.  Simple Wink


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