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Post by R!skysports on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 10:51 am

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Glasgow Warriors are one of the two professional rugby union sides from Scotland. The team plays in the Pro14 league and in the European Professional Club Rugby tournaments. In the 2014-15 season they won the Pro12 title and became the first Scottish team to win a major trophy in rugby union's professional era. #theyrock

Edinburgh Rugby (formerly Edinburgh Reivers, Edinburgh Gunners and a real rugby team) is one of the two professional rugby teams from Scotland, although hard to determine if they play rugby. The club competes dances in the Pro14, along with Glasgow Warriors, its oldest rival. Since January 2017, Edinburgh plays most of its home games at Myreside Stadium with selected matches at BT Murrayfield.


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Post by BigGee on Mon 23 Apr 2018, 10:58 am

Unfortunately a lot of the international players just look spent.

Huw Jones needs to start his off season now.

JG and RW are getting an enforced rest through injury and hopefully will give us some go forward when they return for the semi.

The less said about Price and Russell the better. I do agree that FR mind seems elsewhere and he probably needs to concentrate on the next phase of his career now. Ali Price to me has played himself out of the squad now, let Horne start and Henry P bench. He has looked solid when he has played, the Henry of old, he does not tend to do bad games.

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Post by BigGee on Mon 23 Apr 2018, 11:03 am

EWT Spoons wrote:
BigGee wrote:
EWT Spoons wrote:

Don't get me wrong it's still been a great season for Glasgow so far, finishing top of their pool and getting to the semi final of the playoffs, but I suspect the club and the fans would want more than that.

Indeed, expectation is something that is now established at Scotstoun, but some perspective is also needed.

We did not make the playoffs last year and this year was always going to be about rebuilding and transition, especially with a new coaching team and a head coach only arriving at the end of pre season. At the beginning of the season we would likely have been happy with a playoff place and ecstatic about winning the conference so easily.

In all honesty the Rennie era needs to be given another year to make any judgement on it, but that still does not mean that we can't be very disappointed with performances like that on Saturday.

Totally agree, and to be honest I may have done Glasgow a disservice as the season is far from over yet.  A semi final appearance is the worst case scenario, who knows what will happen there.

In terms of next season, there are two big holes being created at both Glasgow & Edinburgh, with Glasgow losing Russell and Edinburgh losing (current form) SHC.  I realise they are being lost for two different reasons, but Edinburgh have no one currently lined up to step into SHC shoes.  Glasgow have Hastings and Horne, but neither are close to him when all are playing at their best.

Are Glasgow fans concerned by Russell leaving and having to rely on Horne/Hastings next year, or has Finn’s performances of late and Hastings seemingly stepping up made that move slightly easier?

Horne has blown hot and cold, seemingly as always and big doubts remain about his ability to hold down the FH spot over a season, most would feel he always plays better at 12.

Hastings has been quietly impressive, winning player of the month last month and yet DR has not played him in any of the big games. He is due a start in a meaningful game and the chance to show that he can handle it. He may well get that chance on Saturday and if he nails it, will probably start the semi and tour with Scotland in the summer.

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Post by BigGee on Mon 23 Apr 2018, 11:11 am

Ryan Wilson re-signs for Glasgow.

No complaints about that, RW is becoming Kellockesque in his leadership of Glasgow. We may well have won if he had been playing on Saturday.

We were all kind of expecting it though. I Would still really like to know who the 3 or 4 new players being lined up actually are.

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Post by Hazel Sapling on Mon 23 Apr 2018, 2:30 pm

Pierre Schoeman is going to add a bit of bite to the Edinburgh pack (http://www.planetrugby.com/news/pierre-schoeman-cited-for-alleged-bite/)

On Glasgow, Price/Russell have had a great 2017 and a rubbish 2018. Price could do with coming off the bench at most until he shows something good. Russell should be told have a good long holiday cause it is the World Cup next year.

There is a bit of malaise in the Glasgow team at present. The pack has struggled for much of the season against the top sides. DR is finding his feet in Scotland/Europe and is not used to losing much of his squad for extended periods. It is frustrating considering his reputation for the limp exit in Europe and some of the late season performances (Scarlets, Ulster). I do question whomever the forwards coach is and the lack of progress being made in the scrum.

If he goes on to win the league (or lose a close final), all can be forgiven with an improved performance in Europe next year. Glasgow seem to be running into an issue of only being able to compete on one front (League or Europe) each season. Next season will be even more difficult for him with Russell gone and Hogg having his head filled with some big numbers in his next contract.

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Post by George Carlin on Mon 23 Apr 2018, 2:55 pm

BigGee wrote:Ryan Wilson re-signs for Glasgow.

No complaints about that, RW is becoming Kellockesque in his leadership of Glasgow. We may well have won if he had been playing on Saturday.

We were all kind of expecting it though. I Would still really like to know who the 3 or 4 new players being lined up actually are.
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Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 23 Apr 2018, 11:44 pm

BigGee wrote:Unfortunately a lot of the international players just look spent.

Huw Jones needs to start his off season now.

JG and RW are getting an enforced rest through injury and hopefully will give us some go forward when they return for the semi.

The less said about Price and Russell the better. I do agree that FR mind seems elsewhere and he probably needs to concentrate on the next phase of his career now. Ali Price to me has played himself out of the squad now, let Horne start and Henry P bench. He has looked solid when he has played, the Henry of old, he does not tend to do bad games.

He's been ruled out until at least after the semi final with a frsctirfr eye socket.

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Post by EWT Spoons on Tue 24 Apr 2018, 7:56 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:
BigGee wrote:Unfortunately a lot of the international players just look spent.

Huw Jones needs to start his off season now.

JG and RW are getting an enforced rest through injury and hopefully will give us some go forward when they return for the semi.

The less said about Price and Russell the better. I do agree that FR mind seems elsewhere and he probably needs to concentrate on the next phase of his career now. Ali Price to me has played himself out of the squad now, let Horne start and Henry P bench. He has looked solid when he has played, the Henry of old, he does not tend to do bad games.

He's been ruled out until at least after the semi final with a frsctirfr eye socket.

That sounds a hell of an injury Smile

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Tue 24 Apr 2018, 7:57 am

Laugh

Fractured! Not sure what happened with predictive text there...

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Post by tigertattie on Tue 24 Apr 2018, 9:08 am

Crikey, the ground in ulster must have been super hard to fracture his eye socket when he was thrown to the ground!
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Post by George Carlin on Tue 24 Apr 2018, 12:38 pm

tigertattie wrote:Crikey, the ground in ulster must have been super hard to fracture his eye socket when he was thrown to the ground!
Or Shug is a quite a large jessie. Discuss.
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Post by EWT Spoons on Tue 24 Apr 2018, 12:48 pm

Rennie is on the bbc website talking about the 1872 (amongst other things) one of the ‘other things’ is the following

From my point of view, it's irrelevant what they're doing," said Rennie, who has re-signed 13 players for next season, including skipper Ryan Wilson.

"We've finished our contracting too. We've kept the majority of the guys we want to keep and got a handful coming in to add a little bit extra in key areas.”

Not sure if that means no more signings or  just the players out of contract are not going to be offered one, or both.

Glasgow fans, if that’s the end of your business and players signing a new deal, are you happy with the squad you have for next season?

Full chat here if you are interested - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/43876756

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Post by BigGee on Tue 24 Apr 2018, 12:55 pm

He has already said that we will have three or four players coming in, he mentions it in this interview as well. They are starting to announce the re-signings now and hopefully we will hear about the new guys soon. The fact that we have not suggests that some of them may still be playing in the SH and may not want it announced during the season.

We are definitely a little bit short in a few areas. A ball carrying back row and probably a FH as well. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that Hastings and Horne will be away with Scotland next year and that would just leave us with Thompson, who really is just a squad player.

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Post by EWT Spoons on Tue 24 Apr 2018, 1:01 pm

Cool, so sounds like it's only relating to players getting a new contract then.

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Post by demosthenes on Tue 24 Apr 2018, 2:56 pm

"We've kept the majority of the guys we want to keep..."


So I wonder who, apart presumably from Finn, did he want to keep and hasn't?

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Post by tigertattie on Wed 25 Apr 2018, 9:48 am

Anyone else picking up on the sheer lack of buildup to the weekend?

I've not seen any advertising other than the the SRUs Facebook (and that's just advertising to the already initiated)
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Post by Hazel Sapling on Thu 26 Apr 2018, 5:19 pm

http://www.606v2.com/t67489-edinburgh-vs-glasgow

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 29 Apr 2018, 10:27 am

Luke Hamilton confirmed on twitter he's leaving Leicester but no mention of where he's going. Neither Edinburgh or Glasgow really desperately need him but I'm sure neither would turn him down!

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Post by tigertattie on Sun 29 Apr 2018, 11:00 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Luke Hamilton confirmed on twitter he's leaving Leicester but no mention of where he's going. Neither Edinburgh or Glasgow really desperately need him but I'm sure neither would turn him down!

I'm not sure like, Glasgow are desperately needing some effective forwards.

JG remains injured and Brown and Gibbans can't do it all themselves. The rest of the Glasgow pack are basically powderpuff.
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Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 29 Apr 2018, 11:58 am

Suppose it depends what his main position is seen to be - if he's a 7 there's a vast drop-off in quality behind Gibbins at Glasgow so he'd get gametime there. I'm not convinced fusaro has a future in professional rugby.

He'd add a lot of class to the Glasgow pack but Glasgow have plenty of that - they desperately need grunt!

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Post by Tramptastic on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 12:38 pm

With an eye on the summer tour, whilst also keeping in mind the season isn't over for either of our pro teams - who would you "rest" for the summer tour and who would you bring along in their place?

I'd leave Russell, Price, WP Nel, Hogg, Dunbar, Barclay and Huw Jones purely because those guys have had extremely long seasons, are coming back from long term injuries and/or rarely (if ever) get a full pre-season with their clubs under their belts.

Dunbar is made of glass and could probably do with a summer of conditioning, same with WP Nel

Hogg, Jones and Russell have all had long seasons (lions tours/southern hemisphere seasons) and look a bit jaded.

Price is just off form and could do with some down time.

Barclay is getting on - would not like to injure our captain against America/Canada

With a world cup next year giving all of these guys a full pre-season could pay off in the long term.

Would also allow Townsend to have a closer look at Kinghorn, SHC/Horne (ideally take both and tell Fowles to f3ck off), Grigg, Chris Dean/Johnston/Bennett, Fagerson/Berghan/Mccalum, Bradbury.

Thoughts?

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 12:54 pm

Could start a new thread on this - well volunteered!

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Post by Tramptastic on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 12:58 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Could start a new thread on this - well volunteered!

I stumbled in to that one didn't I?

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Post by NeilyBroon on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 1:00 pm

Tramptastic wrote:With an eye on the summer tour, whilst also keeping in mind the season isn't over for either of our pro teams - who would you "rest" for the summer tour and who would you bring along in their place?

I'd leave Russell, Price, WP Nel, Hogg, Dunbar, Barclay and Huw Jones purely because those guys have had extremely long seasons, are coming back from long term injuries and/or rarely (if ever) get a full pre-season with their clubs under their belts.

Dunbar is made of glass and could probably do with a summer of conditioning, same with WP Nel

Hogg, Jones and Russell have all had long seasons (lions tours/southern hemisphere seasons) and look a bit jaded.

Price is just off form and could do with some down time.

Barclay is getting on - would not like to injure our captain against America/Canada

With a world cup next year giving all of these guys a full pre-season could pay off in the long term.

Would also allow Townsend to have a closer look at Kinghorn, SHC/Horne (ideally take both and tell Fowles to f3ck off), Grigg, Chris Dean/Johnston/Bennett, Fagerson/Berghan/Mccalum, Bradbury.

Thoughts?

Yep I'd agree with pretty much all of that. We're now in the luxurious position that even if we do a bit of tinkering in the summer there isn't a huge loss in quality. I'd like to see Hastings get more of a chance - I'm surprised he hasn't featured in the last couple of games for Glasgow to be honest considering how poor Russell/Horne have been.
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Post by Tramptastic on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 1:08 pm

Fancy new thread

I was too lazy to chuck up some statistics but the matches/dates are listed there

http://www.606v2.com/t67493-scotland-s-2018-summer-tour-darien-2-0#3701471

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Post by EWT Spoons on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 1:09 pm

Pro 14 have just announced that they've signed a deal with prem sports from next season, and they will be showing every Pro14 game. No idea how that's going to work, probably some very unfortunate kick off times.

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Post by BigGee on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 1:38 pm

EWT Spoons wrote:Pro 14 have just announced that they've signed a deal with prem sports from next season, and they will be showing every Pro14 game.  No idea how that's going to work, probably some very unfortunate kick off times.

From what they are saying it will involve two channels PS1 and PS2, with two games on Friday night and the rest on Saturday. One game will also go out on free to air TV. Presumably on Saturday, that will mean two kick off times in the afternoon and one in the evening

For £10 a month that does not sound at all bad, I for one can't wait to ditch the sky subscription!

This is for three years, sounds like the Pro 14 have struck a pretty good deal here, it will certainly be bringing more revenue into the clubs.

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Post by BigGee on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 1:44 pm

Two bits of transfer news out there as well, one good, the other not so much

SHC is strongly rumoured to be going to Scarlets. That would be a good move for him, he won't be the starter, but should get plenty of game time. Otrher Scottish players, notably the venerable Sean Lamont and John Barclay have resurrected their careers down there and no reason why SHC should not as well. I think a change of scenery will do him the world of good and may make him into the player he really aught to have become a few years ago.

The other news is that Dan McFarland is leaving the Scotland set up in January and is being strongly linked with the head coaches job at Ulster. He will be a big miss, but you can see why he fancies being his own boss. carl Hogg is coming on board the Scotland set up in an interim basis, you would imagine he will get the job if he does well at it. Both he and Mc Farland will coach on the summer tour.

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Post by EWT Spoons on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 1:47 pm

The SHC one is from Offsideline isn't it? they're normally pretty good so I think that's probably going to happen.

Shame, was hoping he was going to stay

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Post by EST on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 1:48 pm

BigGee wrote:Two bits of transfer news out there as well, one good, the other not so much

SHC is strongly rumoured to be going to Scarlets. That would be a good move for him, he won't be the starter, but should get plenty of game time. Otrher Scottish players, notably the venerable Sean Lamont and John Barclay have resurrected their careers down there and no reason why SHC should not as well. I think a change of scenery will do him the world of good and may make him into the player he really aught to have become a few years ago.

The other news is that Dan McFarland is leaving the Scotland set up in January and is being strongly linked with the head coaches job at Ulster. He will be a big miss, but you can see why he fancies being his own boss. carl Hogg is coming on board the Scotland set up in an interim basis, you would imagine he will get the job if he does well at it. Both he and Mc Farland will coach on the summer tour.

That is a real blow - he has worked wonders with the likes of Bhatti and Marfo at int level.

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Post by BigGee on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 1:53 pm

EWT Spoons wrote:The SHC one is from Offsideline isn't it?  they're normally pretty good so I think that's probably going to happen.

Shame, was hoping he was going to stay

I don't think he will ever reach his full potential at Edinburgh, to much baggage there for him now. Needs to move to go and push himself onwards.

Edinburgh do need another SH though, surely they will be in the market for one now, especially with the champs cup money now in the bag. Fowles was awful on Saturday again, what little confidence he had, must now be completely shredded.

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Post by EWT Spoons on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 2:05 pm

He might not have reached his full potential, but he's been playing very well of late. I think the change in the coaching set up have proved beneficial to him. Also with him going we are significantly weaker at 9. I'd hope there is someone lined up, but I fear Fowles, Kennedy & Sheils will be our choices next year

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 2:26 pm

That would be a good move for SHC, and probably better than a lower AP team. He tweeted saying about his last game at Murrayfield so he's definitely off.

Huge blow to lose McFarlen - looking at Glasgow's pack since he's left, and Scotland's pack since he joined Scotland, says all we need to know about his abilities.

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Post by Brendan on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 2:46 pm

I'm not sure if any of ye know but is there any plans to stick another few thousand seats into Glasgow's stadium.  I looks they were sold out all season so could probably get another 1000 a week and probably 2000 for big games.  Really is great to see Glasgow off the field doing so well to make sure the good times last

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Post by BigGee on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 3:12 pm

Brendan wrote:I'm not sure if any of ye know but is there any plans to stick another few thousandconto Glasgow's stadium.  I looks they were sold out all season so could probably get another 1000 a week and probably 2000 for big games.  Really is great to see Glasgow off the field doing so well to make sure the good times last

The capacity is going up to 10,000 for the play off game.

That is relatively easy to do by taking the roof off the temporary stands and putting more seats in behind. That is not necessarily such a good idea in the middle of a Glasgow winter though, when it has been known for there to be the odd shower of rain!

Glasgow have outgrown their stadium now, but what to do about it is not so clear and easy. The local residents are not keen on bigger crowds and the only obvious expansion would be to rebuild the north stand, but that might infringe on the local allotments, which would also kick up a storm of protest.

Sharing the stadium with athletics is proving to be problematic, but the athletics club kicked up a massive storm when even in putting in the artificial turf which mean they could not chuck any spears about inside the ground any more.

There are no easy answers to this one, the athletes have their rights as well and the ground is a council run facility, so the SRU and the Warriors don't necessarily get things all their own way.

Down the line though, if the club is to continue to grow, them something will have to give.

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 3:25 pm

There must be a long term plan somewhere - hopefully the SRU and Glasgow start releasing it.

Good to hear the playoff will have a 10k capacity - that's the minimum Glasgow need just now.

They could move it to Murrayfield, just to make Schitz happy... Whistle

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Post by tigertattie on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 3:44 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:There must be a long term plan somewhere - hopefully the SRU and Glasgow start releasing it.

Good to hear the playoff will have a 10k capacity - that's the minimum Glasgow need just now.

They could move it to Murrayfield, just to make Schitz happy... Whistle

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 7:21 pm

EWT Spoons wrote:The SHC one is from Offsideline isn't it?  they're normally pretty good so I think that's probably going to happen.

Shame, was hoping he was going to stay
The article also says he was offered a new deal but only until December - seems strange if true as what's the point of giving someone a contract for half a season?

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Post by BigGee on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 7:24 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
EWT Spoons wrote:The SHC one is from Offsideline isn't it?  they're normally pretty good so I think that's probably going to happen.

Shame, was hoping he was going to stay
The article also says he was offered a new deal but only until December - seems strange if true as what's the point of giving someone a contract for half a season?

They may already have a SH player lined up who won't be free till then!

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Post by BigGee on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 7:27 pm

Cockers seems to have made up his mind on SHC, he is maybe not a player in his mode in that he is not always fully focused on the team and its needs, a touch of the prima donna as well, who has not lived up to his potential. Cockerill wants his players to bleed the colours of the shirt, SHC has not always done that.

Time will prove him right or wrong on that.

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 7:31 pm

You may be right biggee.

It probably isn't hyperbole to say SHC is Scotland's form 9 just now - he has been superb the last 4 or 5 games. Edinburgh fans would be much more content with him leaving if it wasn't for Fowles being his backup!

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Post by BigGee on Mon 30 Apr 2018, 7:37 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:You may be right biggee.

It probably isn't hyperbole to say SHC is Scotland's form 9 just now - he has been superb the last 4 or 5 games. Edinburgh fans would be much more content with him leaving if it wasn't for Fowles being his backup!

Just a slight worry!

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Post by tigertattie on Tue 01 May 2018, 9:46 am

BigGee wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:You may be right biggee.

It probably isn't hyperbole to say SHC is Scotland's form 9 just now - he has been superb the last 4 or 5 games. Edinburgh fans would be much more content with him leaving if it wasn't for Fowles being his backup!

Just a slight worry!

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Post by EWT Spoons on Tue 01 May 2018, 10:20 am

Whilst the new Pro14 tv deal seems on paper to be quite good, what impact do folk reckon it will have on attendances?

Reason I ask, is that ST prices are likely to increase this year after being static for the last couple, at least at Edinburgh. It's currently £180 for the cheaper ones, so realistically it will be over £200 for next season. Given this new TV deal will show every game and is £99 for the year, I think we could see a bit of a drop in fans coming through the gates.

not sure about Glasgow because they have a settled stadium etc, whereas Edinburgh are still in flux around a ground and no option yet (depending on what happens with the back pitch option) has really worked.

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Post by Eejit on Tue 01 May 2018, 10:21 am

Pretty sure I just heard IanBru get roasted on the Blood and Mud podcast.

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Tue 01 May 2018, 10:28 am

Taking that further you raise a good point about Edinburgh’s ST – they need to sell ST’s with a clear understanding of where Edinburgh will be playing their games, so that means they are going to either have to commit to Murrayfield for a whole season or miraculous come up with the mini-Murrayfield solution in time for the new season. Given what happened this season with Myreside they’ll surely not want to have another change halfway through the season. I suspect we will be at Murrayfield for a full season with mini-Murrayfield happening the season after. This isn’t something they can rush into like they did with Myreside.

As for your original question, I can’t see it having much of a difference – there haven’t been many Glasgow or Edinburgh games this season which haven’t been on TV (whether it is Alba, Welsh or Irish broadcasters) so I don’t think that will have a huge difference. What makes a difference is a successful team and Edinburgh are certainly a lot more successful now than they were this time last year.

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Post by EWT Spoons on Tue 01 May 2018, 11:12 am

I could be wrong (been known to happen) but I would expect the mini BTMF to go up fairly quickly. The pitches are there, and it doesn’t take long to set up a couple of temp stands. Realistically they just need to wheel them down the road from Myerside. The toilet blocks are basically porta-cabins, so they can just be moved down the road as well.

Other than that, the facilities (bar, parking etc) are already at BTMF.

I mean it might take a season to set up, but I’d be surprised if they didn’t want to get it ready for next season.

Fair point about most of the games being on tv already, but I suppose it wasn’t guaranteed you would get to see all of Edin/Glas games, or what games would be televised, but fans now know they will get to see all of their teams games for about £2.50 a week, which could be a game changer.

I hope you are right though.

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Tue 01 May 2018, 11:21 am

The setup isn't the issue it is the planning permission/approvals that might take time. They will launch the STs soon after the end of the season so I'm sure we'll find out then what's going on.

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Post by BigGee on Tue 01 May 2018, 11:24 am

Pat McArthur calling it a day from Glasgow at the end of the season.

That has been predicted as he is 31 now and has slipped down the pecking order a bit. Still he has been a very good club man for Glasgow, played his whole career with the one club and way over 100 appearances. Maybe not quite big enough to make it internationally, but has put in some shifts for the Weggies.

He is pursuing a career in civil engineering RDW, maybe you can give him some tips!

Good to see players retiring with a career after rugby in mind, having done his degree, it will serve him well.


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Post by EWT Spoons on Tue 01 May 2018, 12:15 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:The setup isn't the issue it is the planning permission/approvals that might take time. They will launch the STs soon after the end of the season so I'm sure we'll find out then what's going on.

Fair point. Will be interesting to see what they do. I would be amazed though if Edinburgh aren't pulling out all the stops to get it ready for next season, but appreciate that some of that will be out of their hands.

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Post by EWT Spoons on Tue 01 May 2018, 12:56 pm

Super 6 teams announced, some odd choices:

Ayr
Boroughmuir
Heriots
Melrose
Stirling County
Watsonians

No clubs from Glasgow, 3 from Edinburgh.  I get Edinburgh having a higher representation due to the number of clubs, but seems like a missed opportunity not to have a club from Glasgow.


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