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Post by superflyweight on Tue 21 Nov 2017, 8:01 pm

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As much as I agree with you that much of the reason for the Leave vote was the racism and pig-ignorance of the likes of Lionsv2 and old people, I'm not sure the questions you're asking are particularly relevant.  I'd quite like a cut in local crime but couldn't name a single local criminal.

I beg your pardon?

No doubt the mods will do nothing about that.

He said you were “PIG IGNORANT”. I’ve heard of hard of hearing before but not hard of reading.

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Post by Pr4wn on Thu 21 Dec 2017, 2:02 pm

That's three cabinet ministers in two months. Strong and stable.

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Post by Samo on Thu 21 Dec 2017, 5:16 pm

Pr4wn wrote:That's three cabinet ministers in two months. Strong and stable.

If we're sacking cabinet members for 'misleading and inaccurate' statements then BawJaws and Davis can follow.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 21 Dec 2017, 8:43 pm

Samo wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:That's three cabinet ministers in two months. Strong and stable.

If we're sacking cabinet members for 'misleading and inaccurate' statements then BawJaws and Davis can follow.
Maybe, but they don't have the salacious headlines associated with Green's faux pas do they?
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Post by Duty281 on Tue 26 Dec 2017, 3:05 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-42481329

Good stuff.

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Post by lostinwales on Tue 26 Dec 2017, 11:44 am

Duty281 wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-42481329

Good stuff.
Yep - absolutely right. Idiots should be challenged in debate rather than always being ignored - and the University creed of follow the leader and protesting against the idiots speaking is another form of manipulation.

While we are at it a few more things should be out in the open too. Like funding for political parties and campaigns.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 6:49 pm

I see the head of Windsor Council wants all the homeless in the area shifted from the streets for the Royal Wedding.

Nothing like getting your priorities right !!...

Where do these cold hearted muppets come from ??...I blame the Parents.

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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 7:31 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I see the head of Windsor Council wants all the homeless in the area shifted from the streets for the Royal Wedding.

Nothing like getting your priorities right !!...

Where do these cold hearted muppets come from ??...I blame the Parents.

The Tory party.

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Post by Duty281 on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 8:42 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I see the head of Windsor Council wants all the homeless in the area shifted from the streets for the Royal Wedding.

Nothing like getting your priorities right !!...

Where do these cold hearted muppets come from ??...I blame the Parents.

No surprise to see this is #fakenews.

From actually looking into it, I see the leader of the Royal Borough has listed the wide-ranging measures that his borough have provided for the area's homeless (including emergency shelters, mental health services and support services), before listing safety concerns that arise from what he calls 'aggressive beggars' (or professionals, to be more apt). He reiterates that the same services have been rejected when offered to these same people.


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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 8:53 pm

No source with that Duty?

Here's the BBC report, for those interested. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-berkshire-42558501

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Post by Duty281 on Wed 03 Jan 2018, 10:40 pm

The source for what I said is linked within the BBC report:

https://www3.rbwm.gov.uk/downloads/file/3558/cllr_simon_dudley_letter_to_anthony_stansfeld_jan_2018

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Post by Pr4wn on Thu 04 Jan 2018, 2:13 pm

Think of all the help you could give all those homeless people if you used the public money that's going towards this farce of a wedding.

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Post by rick_dagless on Thu 04 Jan 2018, 2:26 pm

Wonder how much revenue the wedding will generate, in merchandising, broadcast rights, and tourism?


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Post by Scottrf on Thu 04 Jan 2018, 2:28 pm

Pr4wn wrote:Think of all the help you could give all those homeless people if you used the public money that's going towards this farce of a wedding.
Not public money you're contributing, deserting to Toronto.

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Post by Pr4wn on Thu 04 Jan 2018, 3:52 pm

I never contributed, I'm not from the UK. But I appreciate the personal attack that deflects from the actual point I'm making. Top stuff OK

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon 08 Jan 2018, 8:37 pm

Greening probably the only gay Minister in the reshuffle gone...

May just has no idea about politics....

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Post by Pr4wn on Mon 08 Jan 2018, 9:33 pm

If May gets out-negotiated by Jeremy Hunt, I wonder how she'll fare with Michael Barnier.

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Post by Dave. on Mon 08 Jan 2018, 9:37 pm

Done alright so far.

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Post by Pr4wn on Mon 08 Jan 2018, 9:53 pm

From an EU perspective, sure. She's conceded on pretty much everything.

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Post by ShahenshahG on Mon 08 Jan 2018, 10:19 pm

Dave. wrote:Done alright so far.

laughing

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Post by Dave. on Mon 08 Jan 2018, 11:12 pm

She hasn't conceded on everything. In fact the EU had to make compromises, too. No permanent ECJ role for example, a much lower payment settlement and they tried to bounce the UK into an unfavourable arrangement on the Irish border - but didn't succeed.

OK, the DUP may have needed to give her a reminder on the last one, but Varadkar was overreaching so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.

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Post by Samo on Tue 09 Jan 2018, 8:17 am

Strong and stable... strong and stable.... strong and stable....

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Tue 09 Jan 2018, 8:43 am

I just tried to move Hero to a non-admin role, but he refused.

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Post by Pr4wn on Tue 09 Jan 2018, 2:04 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:I just tried to move Hero to a non-admin role, but he refused.

Rather, you just tried to demote me from Mod but I refused to you made me admin.

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Post by Steffan on Tue 09 Jan 2018, 2:07 pm

I have been posting on here for 7 years and still waiting to get my mod promotion

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Post by JuliusHMarx on Tue 09 Jan 2018, 2:23 pm

Steffan wrote:I have been posting on here for 7 years and still waiting to get my mod promotion

Would you like to be in charge of the Athletics section?

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Post by Steffan on Tue 09 Jan 2018, 4:12 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:
Steffan wrote:I have been posting on here for 7 years and still waiting to get my mod promotion

Would you like to be in charge of the Athletics section?
Yeah. Sounds like a nice cushty little number

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Post by Hero on Tue 09 Jan 2018, 4:42 pm

God that section gave me nightmares.

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Post by Steffan on Tue 09 Jan 2018, 6:50 pm

Anyway let me know when you want me to be a mod

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Post by Pal Joey on Tue 09 Jan 2018, 9:39 pm

It's not all it's cracked up to be. Lots of maintenance work and archiving complaints.

Much better to be a free 'member'.

GB should have tried to stay in the EU though. That's a different kettle of fish.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 10 Jan 2018, 7:34 pm

Apparently Theresa May visited some seriously ill patients in a London hospital today...

"The Doctors say I haven't much time left"..

"Oh.. I'm sorry to hear that Prime Minister"..


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Post by Hero on Wed 10 Jan 2018, 8:19 pm

Truss made a funny!

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Post by SecretFly on Wed 10 Jan 2018, 8:53 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Apparently Theresa May visited some seriously ill patients in a London hospital today...

"The Doctors say I haven't much time left"..

"Oh.. I'm sorry to hear that Prime Minister"..


May: "You should be. Corbyn is still leader of Labour."

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Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 11 Jan 2018, 10:25 am

SecretFly wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Apparently Theresa May visited some seriously ill patients in a London hospital today...

"The Doctors say I haven't much time left"..

"Oh.. I'm sorry to hear that Prime Minister"..


May:  "You should be.  Corbyn is still leader of Labour."
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Post by SecretFly on Thu 11 Jan 2018, 12:39 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Apparently Theresa May visited some seriously ill patients in a London hospital today...

"The Doctors say I haven't much time left"..

"Oh.. I'm sorry to hear that Prime Minister"..


May:  "You should be.  Corbyn is still leader of Labour."
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Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 11 Jan 2018, 2:26 pm

SecretFly wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Apparently Theresa May visited some seriously ill patients in a London hospital today...

"The Doctors say I haven't much time left"..

"Oh.. I'm sorry to hear that Prime Minister"..


May:  "You should be.  Corbyn is still leader of Labour."
Tumbleweed

Did I ruffle your pinstripe suit frown there, navy?  My humble apologies to the Grey Room of Gratuitous Gloom. OK
No, not at all. Look up 'funny' in a dictionary... thumbsup.
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Post by SecretFly on Thu 11 Jan 2018, 2:52 pm

I have.

And it includes nothing that could be called it on these grim reaper pages.

But tally ho with the Pink Financial times pages. Always a better class of comedy when accountants write the jokes Wink

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Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 11 Jan 2018, 2:54 pm

SecretFly wrote:I have.  

And it includes nothing that could be called it on these grim reaper pages.  

But tally ho with the Pink Financial times pages.  Always a better class of comedy when accountants write the jokes Wink
I do mostly agree with that Hug. Not a lot to laugh at in the World these days is there?
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Post by SecretFly on Thu 11 Jan 2018, 2:56 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
SecretFly wrote:I have.  

And it includes nothing that could be called it on these grim reaper pages.  

But tally ho with the Pink Financial times pages.  Always a better class of comedy when accountants write the jokes Wink
I do mostly agree with that Hug. Not a lot to laugh at in the World these days is there?

What we need to do, navy...and I've actually done it in reality (more need to do it)...turn off the news.... all of it or most of it. It really is a tonic and gets you quickly back into touch with the important things in life. It really works. The news media loves our addictions to constant misery.

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Post by dummy_half on Thu 11 Jan 2018, 3:42 pm

SecretFly wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
SecretFly wrote:I have.  

And it includes nothing that could be called it on these grim reaper pages.  

But tally ho with the Pink Financial times pages.  Always a better class of comedy when accountants write the jokes Wink
I do mostly agree with that Hug. Not a lot to laugh at in the World these days is there?

What we need to do, navy...and I've actually done it in reality (more need to do it)...turn off the news.... all of it or most of it.  It really is a tonic and gets you quickly back into touch with the important things in life.  It really works.  The news media loves our addictions to constant misery.

If it bleeds it leads...

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 17 Jan 2018, 8:49 am

Scottish independence polls..Yougov.

Should there be a referendum in next 5 years ??

Yes 36
No  54..

Will you vote for independence ??

Yes 43
No 57...

Worrying for SNP.

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Post by Samo on Wed 17 Jan 2018, 1:30 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Scottish independence polls..Yougov.

Should there be a referendum in next 5 years ??

Yes 36
No  54..

Will you vote for independence ??

Yes 43
No 57...

Worrying for SNP.

I was an SNP voter all my adult life but they became too focused on Independence while everything else has turned to Poopie around them. And theres only so much you can blame on Westminster.

I’ll always support an independent Scotland but now isnt the time. If there was another referendum tomorrow I would vote No. We’ll see how much of a disaster Brexit is because I reckon a Scotland independent from the UK but a member of the EU would be a huge boon.

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Post by Ent on Wed 17 Jan 2018, 2:05 pm

Can't happen, look at how much bother the Irish border is.

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Post by Scottrf on Wed 17 Jan 2018, 2:12 pm

Ent wrote:Can't happen, look at how much bother the Irish border is.

You think no other countries share a border with an EU member?

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Post by Duty281 on Wed 17 Jan 2018, 4:24 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Scottish independence polls..Yougov.

Should there be a referendum in next 5 years ??

Yes 36
No  54..

Will you vote for independence ??

Yes 43
No 57...

Worrying for SNP.

As predicted, a vote for Brexit has made little impact on the Scottish discussion.

SNP running out of time.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Wed 17 Jan 2018, 6:38 pm

Eh I think you'll find the opinion polls showing changes once the Brexit deal is finalised and we get the Hard Brexit that is imminent.

At present people are holding out for that slim hope that it will not be a Hard Brexit or that Scotland will somehow be allowed to stay in the single market. Not happening - that is when the **** hits the fan and polls will change.

I do see what Samo says. I'd also wait before going for another referendum however Scotland's hand has been forced somewhat. If Scotland's SNP government don't call for a referendum after Scotland had voted to remain in Europe then have to leave with a hard Brexit and not remaining in the single market then it sets a precedence for the future does it not? Westminster will point out that if Scotland does not call for a referendum in those extreme circumstances then why should it be granted one anytime in the future?

And the SNP are not running out of time. In my opinion they should take all the time they want before calling for a referendum. There is no timescale for having to call one.
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Post by Pr4wn on Wed 17 Jan 2018, 8:11 pm

A lot of speculation with absolutely no backup there, Craig.

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Post by ShahenshahG on Wed 17 Jan 2018, 9:17 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Ent wrote:Can't happen, look at how much bother the Irish border is.

You think no other countries share a border with an EU member?

No other country has had business develop around full access then had it taken away overnight. There's one thing having a border and all feasible business being conducted and designed around that and quite another having developed as if it's the same country then losing access and the feasibility changing.

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Post by Steffan on Thu 18 Jan 2018, 1:30 pm

Originally I was anti-Brexit and still am to an extent as it makes no sense at all. If it leads to the downfall of the UK (like Scotland going independent or a united Ireland) then I guess it will be worth it. I doubt either will happen though

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Thu 18 Jan 2018, 2:34 pm

Pr4wn wrote:A lot of speculation with absolutely no backup there, Craig.

No I wouldn't call it speculation - just common sense. The political picture changes with opinions when major incidents happen. At present there is nothing concrete/major that has happened. The Brexit deal being finalized is one of those major incidents I speak of so it is when that is done then the opinion polls show no real change is the time to start judging the polls.
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Post by rick_dagless on Thu 18 Jan 2018, 3:07 pm


speculation
noun [ C or U ] uk ​ /ˌspek.jəˈleɪ.ʃən/ us ​ /ˌspek.jəˈleɪ.ʃən/

speculation noun [ C or U ] (GUESS)

C1 the activity of guessing possible answers to a question without having enough information to be certain:

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