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Saints Under Gaffney

Post by WELL-PAST-IT on Sat 13 Jan 2018, 7:24 pm

What has happened to Saints in the last two weeks that wasn't happening before?

Last minute win against Gloucester, and a 5-2 try demolition of Clermont.

The only thing that has changed really is due to injuries, the Prince Harry is playing at 10, just like the start of the season, it was when he stopped playing there that we started the losing run.

I still don't think that it his true position, but Saints seem to like it.

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Re: Saints Under Gaffney

Post by nathan on Sat 13 Jan 2018, 7:30 pm

Today's result was great but I would wait for a few more games before saying they are back to be in form

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 14 Jan 2018, 6:10 am

I watched the 1st half and they seemed to have stepped up the intensity by a fair amount. Still unsure of Harry at 10 despite all of his attributes but time will tell. I was very surprised with the final scoreline after Clermont controlled the 1st half, great result.

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Re: Saints Under Gaffney

Post by WELL-PAST-IT on Sun 14 Jan 2018, 10:50 am

Nathan

I was a long way from saying they are back to where they were, but as Sgt. says, the intensity is back and also some belief.

What I was really trying to get at, is a play nobody, me included thinks is a great 10, plays there at the start of the season and Saints are top, the England international comes back along with an experienced Saxon and the whole team falls apart, largely due to the coaching in my opinion. Harry comes back due to more injuries and we start winning again.

Is there something in his fly half play that we, me included cannot see, or is it just that it suits the Saints style of play better that Francis or Myler.

Bit of a coincidence that they improve when he is at ten, although Gaffney has to be part of the picture.

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Post by doctor_grey on Sun 14 Jan 2018, 11:42 am

Good point about Prince Harry.  I also think having Stephenson, a true Inside Centre, playing at 12 helps as well.  I certainly liked the defensive effort, especially in the second half.  On the other hand, play was still sloppy which has to be fixed.  But a nice turn around from the type of Rugby we have seen.  Seems like not a lot of people went to the game. Were you at the Gardens yesterday?

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Re: Saints Under Gaffney

Post by WELL-PAST-IT on Sun 14 Jan 2018, 11:53 am

Unfortunately not, when we lived in Milton Keynes I was a regular, even when we were in North London, but now we are S.E.London the journey time is starting to get difficult. Kids still live in MK, so will try and make a weekend out of it some time soon.

Agree with your point about Stephenson, he seems to be back to where he was before he had those successive injuries. Has the ability to take it forward, but is also a good distributor with surprising pace. Horne is also a big help to the other longer backs.

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Post by doctor_grey on Sun 14 Jan 2018, 3:13 pm

Maybe I haven't seen Stephenson in a while, but it seemed to me he put on some bulk. You think that's right? I thought he played a nice game.

Will be interesting when Francis comes back. He has a high work rate which Eddie Jones has commented on a few times.

But that is for later. For now, we have a slight, ever so slight, reason to believe once again. Not too bad, not too bad at all.

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Re: Saints Under Gaffney

Post by Scottrf on Tue 16 Jan 2018, 12:45 pm

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:What has happened to Saints in the last two weeks that wasn't happening before?

Intensity and workrate. He's talked about second involvements, getting back into the game, not lying on the floor. Then the new coach effect and a bit of confidence this week.

Tactically he wont have changed much at all yet, although I do think the kicking has been a bit less frequent, but maybe that's just trusting their teammates a bit more.

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Re: Saints Under Gaffney

Post by doctor_grey on Thu 18 Jan 2018, 10:53 pm

Scottrf wrote:
WELL-PAST-IT wrote:What has happened to Saints in the last two weeks that wasn't happening before?

Intensity and workrate. He's talked about second involvements, getting back into the game, not lying on the floor. Then the new coach effect and a bit of confidence this week.

Tactically he wont have changed much at all yet, although I do think the kicking has been a bit less frequent, but maybe that's just trusting their teammates a bit more.
I do think one way to show confidence in players is to kick less and let them play. Especially when the players have some ball in hand skill. I think when teams lose confidence, one of the first things that goes is getting up quick after tackles and rucks.

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Re: Saints Under Gaffney

Post by WELL-PAST-IT on Sun 21 Jan 2018, 10:27 am

Spoke too soon, thought we were good for 15 minutes, then our defence allowed them to rip us another hole.

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