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Saints Under Gaffney

Post by WELL-PAST-IT on Sat 13 Jan 2018, 7:24 pm

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What has happened to Saints in the last two weeks that wasn't happening before?

Last minute win against Gloucester, and a 5-2 try demolition of Clermont.

The only thing that has changed really is due to injuries, the Prince Harry is playing at 10, just like the start of the season, it was when he stopped playing there that we started the losing run.

I still don't think that it his true position, but Saints seem to like it.

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Re: Saints Under Gaffney

Post by doctor_grey on Sat 07 Apr 2018, 7:14 pm

Scottrf wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:I'm devastated he's coming here...I really am. My saints pals have said that could be a really bad move by Deano.

I can only sit in hope that he just needs a new challenge and fresh environment and he can make the falcons pack one of the most feared in Europe.... Whistle  whilst we continue to play a cavalier swashbuckling attacking rugby, of the highest calibre... Yahoo

I really don't think it's a positive thing. Spoke to a couple of Saints players Saturday and he's seen as a very negative influence, a bully and behind the times.

Dowson is very highly rated, but then they did play with him.
I hear the same things from Saints players.  I was back home last weekend and was told almost to a man they are happy West is going (and hopefully to a rival!).  But after the shambles (politely said) of the second half of today's match against Saracens, I have to wonder which players will actually be back (to be happy West is gone).

Now, to be fair, I did not see - yet - the utter misery, the post-digested food, which comprised the 2nd half of today's match.    David Ribbans emerges with some lustre only because he was forced off in the first half when the match was still competitive before everything turned to merde.  .  

With the potential for ring-fencing the Premiership, this is not the time for Saints to be mucking around the bottom of the table, clueless in most things.  

Saints are 10 points ahead of London Irish and only 1 point ahead of Worcester, with 3 games to play for each club.  Unlikely London Irish can catch Worcester or Northampton, but Saints had opportunities to win recent matches they led late against Newcastle, Bath, and Exeter and couldn't find the juice, smarts, effort to close them out.  And looking down the rifle barrel to the end of the season, Saints are at Leicester, at Wasps, and home to Worcester.  It is not inconceivable (though relatively improbable) that last game would have relegation impact.  London Irish host Exe and Saracens before ending the season at Bath.    The major problem is Saints are even in this discussion, when they should be in a comfortable enough position at this point to be playing their younger guys to give them top level playing time.  They should also be giving Stevie Myler a last go as a send off to a respected player hanging it up.  The new coach had better come in ready to perform major surgery, and no one is safe.

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Re: Saints Under Gaffney

Post by Welly on Sat 07 Apr 2018, 7:51 pm

It's easy enough to blame West which seems to be the case.
BUT he was responsible for turning the saints relegated pack into Prem winners and European champs. I mean the players are hardly going to blame themselves and on current form can hardly point the finger at someone else.

We will see how Boyd style works, but Farrell snr was very much the west of the england camp after that world cup and he has gone on to show everyone how good he is with ireland.

Richards is the type of character that could handle West as opposed to Mallinder type.

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Re: Saints Under Gaffney

Post by Scottrf on Sun 08 Apr 2018, 2:23 pm

It's not that people can't handle him. If he's behind the times and unable to accept outside input how can he improve?

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Re: Saints Under Gaffney

Post by Welly on Sun 08 Apr 2018, 2:43 pm

Well I guess that is the debate.

Is he really behind the times or has he been allowed to get into a comfort zone, a bit like Cockers at Tigers when a coach is in the same position for 11+ years or whatever it is then things can geta  bit too comfortable. Right move by Saints to get rid of him BUT I don't trust players that are under performing themselves to give a full story.

I wouldn't eve have him at tigers but that is mainly due to me being a pro cockers fan and West v Cockers has been a age long story.

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