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Post by sirbenson on Tue 16 Jan 2018, 16:26

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Selected tee times RD 3
1 09:30 Steven BROWN Daisuke KATAOKA
10 09:30 Jens FAHRBRING Terry PILKADARIS Jordan ZUNIC
1 09:40 Charlie FORD Suradit YONGCHAROENCHAI Matthew GRIFFIN
10 09:40 Matthew MILLAR Mark FOSTER Adam BLAND
1 09:50 Rattanon WANNASRICHAN Jake MCLEOD James NITTIES
10 09:50 Gareth PADDISON Matthias SCHWAB Cory CRAWFORD
1 10:00 Jazz JANEWATTANANOND Dimitrios PAPADATOS Marcus FRASER
10 10:00 Alexander KNAPPE Austin CONNELLY Ryan FOX
1 10:10 Richard GREEN Ben ECCLES Seungsu HAN
10 10:10 Nicholas FUNG Callan O'REILLY Jarryd FELTON
1 10:20 Pavit TANGKAMOLPRASERT Daniel FOX Stephen LEANEY
10 10:20 Aaron RAI Poom SAKSANSIN Chase KOEPKA
1 10:30 Satoshi KODAIRA Brad KENNEDY Julien GUERRIER
10 10:30 Ryan EVANS Hideto TANIHARA Jarin TODD
1 10:40 Jason SCRIVENER Nick CULLEN David BRANSDON
10 10:40 Bradley NEIL Robert ALLENBY Aron PRICE
1 10:50 Sam HORSFIELD Yusaku MIYAZATO Jack WILSON
10 10:50 Joel GIRRBACH Rak hyun CHO Peter FOWLER
1 11:00 Yikeun CHANG Wade ORMSBY Min Woo LEE (AM)
10 11:00 Johan EDFORS Jake HIGGINBOTTOM James MARCHESANI
1 11:10 Andrea PAVAN Kiradech APHIBARNRAT Adam BLYTH
10 11:10 Jens DANTORP Andrew DODT Christopher MIVIS
1 11:20 Sean CROCKER Anthony QUAYLE Zander LOMBARD
10 11:20 Pep ANGLES Scott VINCENT David LIPSKY
1 11:30 Prom MEESAWAT Grant FORREST Lucas HERBERT
10 11:30 Laurie CANTER Todd SINNOTT Sébastien GROS
1 11:40 Brett RUMFORD Thorbjørn OLESEN Lee WESTWOOD


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Re: European Tour 2018 ISPS Handa World Super 6 Perth

Post by kwinigolfer on Fri 02 Feb 2018, 17:14

Davy Jones had ambitions to be a jockey, was apprenticed to a Newmarket trainer!

2 more 62's and lw1 will be back inside the top 50. Hope he doesn't post 2 x 72's instead, but good that there's life in the old dog yet.

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Post by pedro on Mon 05 Feb 2018, 10:13

Second win for Sharma Shanker. Not bad for a guy with that name.

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Post by GPB on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 14:20

pedro wrote:Second win for Sharma Shanker. Not bad for a guy with that name.

John Huggan pointed out on twitter that there are more Indians (5) in the OWGR 200 than Scots (4).  

Incidentally, two Indians are ranked higher than the highest Scot.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 15:08

GPB wrote:Are you people across the pond familiar with the USA TV show "The Monkees" (about 50 years ago)

If so, you might enjoy this play on their theme song.

HERE HE COMES
WALKING DOWN THE STREET
Shooting Sixty-Two in MALAYSIA
He's the ONE to BEAT

Hey, hey, He's LEE WESTWOOD
Some say he can't golf Anymore
But he is too busy playing
Down in Kuala Lumpur

He goes to Indonesia
Getting Paid to Play
He doesn't have to retire
To Asia, he will find a way

HERE HE COMES
WALKING DOWN THE STREET
Shooting Sixty-Two in MALAYSIA
He's the ONE to BEAT
Ha. Very good. Remember the Monkees quite well.
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Post by kwinigolfer on Fri 16 Feb 2018, 02:59

Open de Espana returns to the European Tour the week following The Masters. Crappy prize fund but got to be very good news.

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Post by GPB on Fri 23 Feb 2018, 01:44

Nice work by Keith Pelley to give Qatar a cr@ppy date on the schedule.

Qatar has a OWGR SoF 56. If not for the minimum subsidy, Qatar would be rated at OWGR-18.

Qatar is a tournament that has been around since 1998. and it used to be one of the better tournaments (OWGR wise) on the ET schedule. Now it is like the King Hassan II Morocco tournament.

Past winners include Garcia, Els, Scott, Bjorn, Lawrie.

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Post by pedro Yesterday at 00:34

Also found it strange they split the desert swing in two. Qatar must be suffering from that. Anyways, as things turned out there are currently no flights btw Qatar and the UAE so it probably wouldn’t have mattered that much anyway.

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Post by McLaren Yesterday at 13:26

GPB wrote:
Qatar has a OWGR SoF 56.  If not for the minimum subsidy, Qatar would be rated at OWGR-18.

So the winner gets 24 instead of 18. How many sof points has it been subsidized?
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Post by kwinigolfer Yesterday at 13:28

Scrap the minimums! Or at least reduce them.
And deliver a WGC to Europe.

PS: The European Tour is effectively subsidising the PGA Tour this week with 6 of the 8 highest-ranked golfers all Europeans.

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Post by McLaren Yesterday at 13:49

As you know I have been very critical of the subsidy the PGA at Wentworth has received over the years but in a rather contradictory position I am not sure I would scrap the minimums. It is a protectionist position but you would have to worry about the continued existence of some ET events if the OWGR ratings were allowed to fall off a cliff. As you say a reduction might be the most appropriate action.

Or would no minimums provide the incentive for those involved in organising the events to attract better fields on merit?


Has there been any recent serious chat about a WGC coming to Europe?
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Post by super_realist Yesterday at 17:04

If you want to call them WGS's and not just GC's then it makes sense to spread them about and not just have them in USA, Mexico and China. Then again, America has previous for calling things "World" when they are anything but.

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Post by kwinigolfer Yesterday at 17:41

The thing with the WGC's (and Majors obviously as well) is that it affects the European Tour for three weeks with guys not surprisingly beefing up the US fields the week before and the week after, and cannibalising the ET fields - though no clue why Pelley thought staging Qatar after Oman instead of before it was good strategy.

Haven't heard any suggestion that a European WGC is any closer now than it was five years ago.

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Post by super_realist Yesterday at 21:11

Jesus Christ, Terminal nobody Oliver Fisher is leading a tournament. He's the British Jeff Overton.

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Post by GPB Yesterday at 22:03

kwinigolfer wrote:Scrap the minimums! Or at least reduce them.
And deliver a WGC to Europe.

PS: The European Tour is effectively subsidising the PGA Tour this week with 6 of the 8 highest-ranked golfers all Europeans.

They are PGATour members too. They get more than they give.

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Post by GPB Yesterday at 22:07

McLaren wrote:
GPB wrote:
Qatar has a OWGR SoF 56.  If not for the minimum subsidy, Qatar would be rated at OWGR-18.

So the winner gets 24 instead of 18.  How many sof points has it been subsidized?

The SoF for Qatar is 54, meaning it would actually been rated OWGR-17, and not 18 as I previously posted.

It would have needed to have SOF 91 to meet the Euro Tour minimum of OWGR-24

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Post by kwinigolfer Yesterday at 23:29

GPB wrote:
kwinigolfer wrote:Scrap the minimums! Or at least reduce them.
And deliver a WGC to Europe.

PS: The European Tour is effectively subsidising the PGA Tour this week with 6 of the 8 highest-ranked golfers all Europeans.

They are PGATour members too.  They get more than they give.


All a bit chicken and egg, don't you think?
The hay-day of European success in world golf hardly depended upon anything the boys got from PGA Tour membership, not convinced that today's generation needs it either.

Although the journeyman Europeans (and other internationals) certainly get more, but good for them, they've paid their dues. Just as Americans prospering in Europe have done.

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Post by GPB Today at 00:13

"...not convinced that today's generation needs it either...."

What is the purse in Qatar compared to Honda?

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Post by kwinigolfer Today at 00:43

GPB wrote:"...not convinced that today's generation needs it either...."

What is the purse in Qatar compared to Honda?

That's my point; why put Qatar up against Honda?


But, guess what, 90% of PGA Tour events have higher purses than European equivalents - so it's more about maximising what you have.

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Post by I'm never wrong Today at 13:27

GPB wrote:What is the purse in Qatar compared to Honda?

I heard the commentators say the winner got $290,000. Purse was $1,750,000

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Post by super_realist Today at 13:35

Purse? It's not boxing.

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Post by I'm never wrong Today at 13:40

Prize fund then

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