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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 29 Jan 2018, 12:54 pm

So the auction happened the past couple of days, and there will be a lot of English interest this year - particularly at Rajasthan and RCB!

Stokes, Buttler and Jofra Archer all picked up by the Rajasthan Royals, Woakes/Moeen picked up by RCB, Roy going to the Delhi Daredevils, and Mark Wood/Chris Jordan/Sam Billings all picking up deals too.

Surprisingly both Alex Hales and Eoin Morgan were not picked up - especially as both are free for the whole tournament. Root/Bairstow went unsold, not a huge surprise as they would have missed the business end of the competition through England duty (although so will Stokes/Woakes/Moeen).

David Willey and Tymal Mills both went unsold too - quite the fall from grace for Mills, after being the second most expensive player last year...

Looks like some good squads, and some, lets say, questionable ones - looking forward to it though!
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Post by KP_fan on Tue 30 Jan 2018, 11:27 am

stokes continues to be a suerstar
heard of Jofra archer for the first time and rtead his profile....seems an exciting talent who will qualify for Eng in 4 years aged 26

Tymal's body let him down last time and given his fragility no one touched him.....

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Post by beshocked on Tue 30 Jan 2018, 12:10 pm

Surprised no one wanted Root - sure he might not be available the whole time but he's a quality batsman. His stats speak for themselves.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Tue 30 Jan 2018, 12:26 pm

The franchises seem to overall look at all-rounders and seam bowlers rather than top order batsmen. Might explain why some of the England batsmen were unsold, though you'd have thought Hales and Morgan would rank ahead of Billings in terms of interest.

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Post by dummy_half on Tue 30 Jan 2018, 12:39 pm

Hales being unsold is the big surprise - a big lad that hits the ball a long way and proven as an ODI / international T20 batsman (and available throughout the tournament) would surely be a desirable asset. OK, he doesn't bowl or keep wicket, but about 7 bowling options should be sufficient, leaving space for 3 batting specialists.

Morgan I think is better as a 50 over batsman (as is Root) - seems to like to be in and ticking over the 1s and 2s before starting to go big.

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Post by JDizzle on Tue 30 Jan 2018, 9:44 pm

Steve Smith going for the money he did and Root not going at all boggles the mind. Root is a far better ODI and T20 player and his T20 record in India is something ludicrous (averaging 54 striking at 130). Surely worth a punt in the second/third rounds at the very least, even if he does miss a chunk.

Morgan has never really set the IPL alight so I do understand that to some degree.

Mills has had a wretched BBL, sure I read he has gone for more runs over a season than any other bowler in BBL history?

But Rajasthan will definitely be my team this year with all that English interest!

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Post by KP_fan on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 10:32 am

My understanding...
IPL buyers  which are Indian corporate....
look for some or all of qualities below when trying to recruit an overseas player....
---quality seamers, allrounders, mystery/ Impact players......
---and bargain hunts.....i.e pick a player from FC or junior cricket on potential.....for low price..... in WI, Aus, SA and now a days English counties , Nepal and Afghanistan too

There are many examples of stars plucked by IPL first and their show in IPL  got them noticed for selection in ODIs / T20s in their national team

for eg. Ganguly was the first to recognize the captaincy material in Smith and put him ahead of Clarke as the captain of Pune.
Marsh, Maxwell, Faulkner, AJ Tye, bunch of westindians all made their big name in IPL first

What IPL generally stay away from are.....
1) Ones bound by national team commitments or restrictions
2) and / or Stars who act like stars , KP & Flintoff were dumped for this reasons... and Gayle almost
3) Fragile Bodies

Put your head down and be deferential to the seniors/ elders/ rich paymasters & politicians running the show......you show attitude and they dump you


Take your IPL team cause seriously...show passion / commitment to the team cause.....if you come across as an indifferent mercenary...they dump you
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Post by msp83 on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 4:19 pm

The stars acting as star bit I am not too sure. Pietersen was around for long, then he opted out for a couple of seasons and then was injured afterwards. Now he's near the end of the line as far as his career is concerned... Flintoff was in the bidding process only ones, got injured in the beginning stages, retired from international cricket and was injured out for long afterwards. His unretirement was only going to interest TV in England and some of his core fans and not the IPL, and poor Fredye anyways couldn't stay on the park for a full season so that he could have made a comeback to IPL...
As for Gayle, he wasn't anywhere near his best last season, is inching close to 40, and is picking up more and more injuries. Said that, think at his base price, it is a great investment for KXIP. And he might play with that extra fire, to prove a point or 2...

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Post by msp83 on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 4:21 pm

While Joe Root is a fine player in all formats, don't think he's the kind of impact player they would want even if only for half the season. If he had to be picked up, he had to be available for the entire season... The surprise there was that Hashim Amla wasn't picked up...

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Post by beshocked on Wed 31 Jan 2018, 5:07 pm

KP_fan wrote:My understanding...
IPL buyers  which are Indian corporate....
look for some or all of qualities below when trying to recruit an overseas player....
---quality seamers, allrounders, mystery/ Impact players......
---and bargain hunts.....i.e pick a player from FC or junior cricket on potential.....for low price..... in WI, Aus, SA and now a days English counties , Nepal and Afghanistan too

There are many examples of stars plucked by IPL first and their show in IPL  got them noticed for selection in ODIs / T20s in their national team

for eg. Ganguly was the first to recognize the captaincy material in Smith and put him ahead of Clarke as the captain of Pune.
Marsh, Maxwell, Faulkner, AJ Tye, bunch of westindians all made their big name in IPL first

What IPL generally stay away from are.....
1) Ones bound by national team commitments or restrictions
2) and / or Stars who act like stars , KP & Flintoff were dumped for this reasons... and Gayle almost
3) Fragile Bodies

Put your head down and be deferential to the seniors/ elders/ rich paymasters & politicians running the show......you show attitude and they dump you


Take your IPL team cause seriously...show passion / commitment to the team cause.....if you come across as an indifferent mercenary...they dump you

Well Stokes was the best selling player so those things you talk about don't apply to him.

He might have national team commitments or restrictions. He's not exactly kept his head down has he?


As for Root - depends what impact you want, he's ideal for building an innings and putting vital runs on the board.

A team has to have balance - not just sloggers and medium pacers.

It's not as if you look through most of the IPL batting line ups and think there's no place for him.

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Post by wisden on Wed 28 Mar 2018, 2:24 pm

Steve Smith and David Warner pulled out by their respective franchises, replacements to be named shortly

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat 07 Apr 2018, 5:24 pm

Chennai the latest to find out the idea of Mark Wood is better than the reality of Mark Wood
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Post by KP_fan on Sat 07 Apr 2018, 6:07 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Chennai the latest to find out the idea of Mark Wood is better than the reality of Mark Wood

he was hitting upto 145kph BUT was 1 or 2 feet short in length....like the test match in NZ
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Post by KP_fan on Sat 07 Apr 2018, 6:18 pm

20 years old leggie Markand bowling superbly
he has a very good ripping googly

Hardik's brother Kunal is a good spin bolwing allrounder....should be in the squad for T20s in India
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Post by KP_fan on Sat 07 Apr 2018, 6:54 pm

England fast bowler Liam Plunkett will replace the injured Kagiso Rabada in the Delhi Daredevils squad for the 2018 season of the IPL. Plunkett entry takes the number of England players in the IPL to 11, with Jofra Archer - who is qualifying to play for England - the 12th.

wow
for a board that passively prohibited its players from IPL....12 players is a big change
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Post by KP_fan on Sat 07 Apr 2018, 7:17 pm

and Bravo probably delivered his full-franchise fee with the inning today

Mumbai showed you take your win for granted even for 10 minutes and the game can turn
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Post by Jetty on Tue 10 Apr 2018, 1:56 am

KP_fan wrote:England fast bowler Liam Plunkett will replace the injured Kagiso Rabada in the Delhi Daredevils squad for the 2018 season of the IPL. Plunkett entry takes the number of England players in the IPL to 11, with Jofra Archer - who is qualifying to play for England - the 12th.

wow
for a board that passively prohibited its players from IPL....12 players is a big change

Willey now as well.

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Post by KP_fan on Tue 10 Apr 2018, 7:29 pm

another great finish by CSK today
Dhoni's personality of leaving too muhc for too late....and getting it in the end
2 great innings today......by Andre Russel and Billings
Billings has shades of AB DeVilliers
& Russel what a waste he's not playing test cricket
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Post by KP_fan on Thu 12 Apr 2018, 7:36 pm

low scoring nail biting thriller...always more interesting than high scoring slog fests
Rashid khan the afgan leggie is great
and the new Kid Makrand the leggie is exceptional talent too
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Post by KP_fan on Sat 14 Apr 2018, 3:13 pm

and Roy makes a payback with a very good match winning knock
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Post by wisden on Sat 14 Apr 2018, 5:22 pm

KKR 79-3 at the hlafway stage

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 15 Apr 2018, 7:20 pm

another talent to watch out for is Mujeeb, 17 year old afgan spinner, whose stock ball is off-spin, but has doosra, googlies and flippers without a change in action
IPL is the pinnacle of exploring new talent....and is overflowing with leggies and mystery spinners, each side has one

Good to see Stokes hit 90mph with the ball...he is warming himself up for the Ind series
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Post by Gooseberry on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 8:07 am

KP_fan wrote:
IPL is the  pinnacle of exploring new talent....and is overflowing with leggies and mystery spinners, each side has one



The less generous would describe it as a full of poor bowlers (and a fair number arent even bowling). The big money goes to the batsmen and all rounders who draw the crowds.


Chris Gayles done what Chris Gayle does. Brutal 63 at nearly 2 runs a ball on his first game in IPL. Whereas a few weeks ago playing for theWindies he could barely score a run against second teir attacks...not taht anyonew would accuse him of not caring about international cricket *cough*

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Post by KP_fan on Mon 16 Apr 2018, 9:07 pm

No the quality of IPL bowling is good and the pitches are no longer 200 par score type anÿmore
there is some bounce and seam movement and spin and 160 is a par score this season
Andre Russel is the best allrounder in the world not to be playing test cricket......if he was he would be at Par with stokes
and Bravo would be a par with Pandya

and world would have had 4 seam bowling allrounders
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Post by Jetty on Thu 19 Apr 2018, 1:31 pm

My favourite team is Kolkata Knight Riders mainly because Tom Curran was selected. Since then I have been impressed with Nitish Rana's batting and who has bowled 3 overs and has 4 wickets at 5.50. Uthappa and Karthik for their proper cricket shots, Russell for his sixes, one went 1.5 kms. 41 from 12 balls, Narine's 50 from 19 balls.

Only watch IPL when KKR play, or games with England bowlers to see how they fare

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Post by wisden on Sat 28 Apr 2018, 4:31 pm

CSK 97-1 after 11 against MI

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Post by KP_fan on Tue 08 May 2018, 9:20 pm

watched Joffery archer two games in a row
he is the real deal bowling yorkers at 148kph
didn't get much to bat
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Post by guildfordbat on Tue 08 May 2018, 11:14 pm

KP_fan wrote:watched Joffery archer two games in a row
he is the  real deal bowling yorkers at 148kph
didn't get much to bat

KP_f - I haven't seen Archer play for his English county side Sussex but I know he's highly rated there. Jason Gillespie has recently taken charge at Sussex - he's also very well regarded in the county game, it'll be interesting to see if he can help Archer develop further.

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 10 May 2018, 5:10 pm

The inning of Rishab pant today should get him on tour of Eng
I know it was a t20 IPL inning, and I am not one for selelcting test match players based on IPL

BUT the talent of Pant in hitting , eye, reflexes is amazing
He's better than all the hype about him....and has delivered in FC Ranji also
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Post by KP_fan on Thu 10 May 2018, 5:12 pm

guildfordbat wrote:
KP_fan wrote:watched Joffery archer two games in a row
he is the  real deal bowling yorkers at 148kph
didn't get much to bat

KP_f - I haven't seen Archer play for his English county side Sussex but I know he's highly rated there. Jason Gillespie has recently taken charge at Sussex - he's also very well regarded in the county game, it'll be interesting to see if he can help Archer develop further.

he will qualify for Eng in 4 more years...thats too far away, given the peak strength as a bowler that he is demonstrating now
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 11 May 2018, 5:48 pm

Jos Buttler is on utter flames at the moment
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 11 May 2018, 7:17 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Jos Buttler is on utter flames at the moment

BUTTLER!!!!
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Post by KP_fan on Fri 11 May 2018, 8:25 pm

yeah Butler is a super player
this year stokes has not fired and that's one reason why RR are struggling
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun 13 May 2018, 7:07 pm

94* for Buttler today

Man is a machine at the moment
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Post by KP_fan on Mon 14 May 2018, 9:21 am

Joffra archer has been the other top performer from Eng,
best value for Money I would say, His Thunderbolt yorkers at 148kph are fightening
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Post by wisden on Wed 23 May 2018, 2:13 pm

Gutted that the sunrisers fell short against CSK who remarkbly make another final!!!!!

KKR vs RR in the elminator this afternoon

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 24 May 2018, 8:23 pm

Yeah both Hyderabad and Rajsthan pulled defeat from the jaws of victory
Raj missed Butler
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