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Post by kwinigolfer on Wed 04 Apr 2018, 4:31 am

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1).But first: Ian James Poulter, you beauty.
Can't believe I wrote that, but one helluva story, like him or loathe him, what a ten days for IJP. Sure he does some stupid things, sure he behaves like an ass sometimes, but what a moment in the spotlight for him last Sunday, a spotlight that he'd pretty much turned on himself. Very happy to know there'll be at least one Ferrari on Magnolia Drive.

2).Right, where was I? That's right, bottle of plonk, a list of runners and off we go. Only 87 will come under starter's orders on Thursday, about a dozen fewer than usual, so approximately 60% will make the cut. And, of those, you can take about 20 and know only a handful have an earthly of playing the weekend.
So let's eliminate these Past Champions from the list of possible winners - Picture of some of them here:
https://www.masters.com/en_US/index.html

Nah, some of them might win, but these won't:
Cabrera, Couples, Immelman, Zach, Langer, Lyle, Mize, O'Meara, Olazabal, Schwartzel, Scott, Singh, Weir, Willett, Woods, Woosie. Apart from the ceremonial attendees, none of Zach, Charl, Adam, Willett or Woods are playing well enough to win - got to get rid of them some time. (16)

3).Amateurs: Outahere!
Harry Ellis, Ghim, Lin, Niemann, Parzialle, Redman. No amateur has reached the top ten since the 1960's - that won't change. (6)

4).Rookies haven't won since Fuzzy Zoeller last ate collard greens. This lot won't either:
Cook, Bryan, Sharma, Miyazato, Kizzire, Frittelli, Kodaira, Li, Finau, Schauffele. Schauffele probably the wild card among them. (10)

5).Outside the owgr Top Fifty:
Walker, Kaymer, Horschel, Potter, Ryan Moore, DeChambeau, Wiesberger, Ikeda, Vegas, Henley, SiWoo Kim. Though Ryan Moore punches above his (growing) weight at Augusta and Henley is a putting genius. (11)

6).Some players are inside the owgr Top 50, but are not playing as well as they were last year - when they didn't win, so why should they this year?
Dufner, Pieters, Chappell, Fitzpatrick, Berger, Fisher, Grace, Oosthuizen, Hoffman, Molinari, Rafa C-B, Perez. These are ranked between 21st & 50th - Hate to lose Chappell on that list, and King Louis could win anywhere, anytime. And no-one would be surprised to see Hoffman play well. (12)

7).Only 32 left, and time to say farewell to Asia, South America, Australia, golfers born in England. Cheerio chaps:
Cam Smith, Aphibarnrat, Poults, Hatton, Leishman, Fleetwood, Casey, Day, Matsuyama. Could make a case, each way at least, for most of them - be really interested how Fleetwood goes; playing with Tiger will inspire or intimidate. (9)

8).Right-handers who haven't won a Major:
Reavie, Stanley, Hadwin, Steele, Cantlay, Woodland, Kisner, Reed, Kuchar, Noren, Stenson, Fowler, Rahm. I like Hadwin as much as any of them, and Kuchar has a great record at Augusta with four Top 8's in the last six years and is the leading career money-winner on Tour without a Major among the under 50's. Either he's due or he's overdue and his train has long gone. (13)

9).Ten lives left.
Webb Simpson has somehow survived so far but he's not going to win. And I can't believe that lightning will strike Bubba again. Dustin plays well here when he doesn't withdraw in mysterious circumstances but he's not last year's model - not yet anyway. Whilst Spieth is not putting like Spieth. And Sergio will have too many distractions, not to mention digesting his arroz caldoso de bogavante. (5)

10).And that leaves Brian Harman (my outsider du jour), a Georgia boy and a superb putter, Phil, Rory and the Justins, Rose and Thomas. I can't easily dismiss any of the five of them, but I'm still not convinced that Justin Thomas's game fits well here and something tells me Rory might want it all a bit too much (hope not though!).
Hopefully it'll be Justin Rose's time, he has a wonderful record of consistency in US Majors, finished 2nd, 10th, 2nd the last three years and seems to have been building towards a second Major. Perhaps from Phil, while I also/always like Louis Oosthuizen at Augusta.  

Can't remember a recent Masters when so many players seemed to have a realistic chance - hope the coverage will be as good as the golf promises to be.


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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 1:35 pm

sirbenson wrote:If Tiger wins this week, do you think people would regard this as perhaps his greatest achievement considering what has gone on the last 10 years?

I bet Woods would, we'd never hear the end of it. Possibly with good reason.

Sounds like Tony Finau is good to go.

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Post by sirbenson on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 1:39 pm

That Finau injury looked so painful, I'm surprised he is able to stand after that!

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 1:45 pm

Numbers on the Masters leaderboard slowly creeping to life - Austin Cook off to a dream start!

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Post by pedro on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 1:54 pm

Finauch!

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Post by sirbenson on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 1:56 pm

Ryan Moore starts off with a birdie! Someone who is a good outsider imo! Nearly backed him

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Post by McLaren on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 1:59 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:
sirbenson wrote:If Tiger wins this week, do you think people would regard this as perhaps his greatest achievement considering what has gone on the last 10 years?

I bet Woods would, we'd never hear the end of it. Possibly with good reason.

Sounds like Tony Finau is good to go.

It would be is easily his best achievement since Torrey but the Tiger slam still has to be his ultimate achievement.

Not sure his greatest achievement should include scraping a late career major after years where he could have won many more were it not for poor injury management.
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Post by Diggers on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 2:02 pm

sirbenson wrote:If Tiger wins this week, do you think people would regard this as perhaps his greatest achievement considering what has gone on the last 10 years?

I don't think he will, but if he does it will be up there. I think winning 4 in a row was pretty special, as was the ridiculous no missed cuts run, the 7 wins in a row streak (that's a great career for most players). He's done some amazing things that he made look normal.

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Post by pedro on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 2:06 pm

McLaren wrote:Not sure his greatest achievement should include scraping a late career major after years where he could have won many more were it not for poor injury course management.
Fixed it for you..

(and super)

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 2:15 pm

sirbenson wrote:Ryan Moore starts off with a birdie! Someone who is a good outsider imo! Nearly backed him

Two-Stroke lead already, sirb!

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Post by sirbenson on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 2:20 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:
sirbenson wrote:Ryan Moore starts off with a birdie! Someone who is a good outsider imo! Nearly backed him

Two-Stroke lead already, sirb!

Very gritty competitor, wouldn't surprise me if he came very close this week

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Post by wiretapper on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 2:24 pm

I'm with Mac, the Tiger Slam has to be his greatest achievement although taking into account where he was last year I would rank a victory this week pretty highly

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Post by sirbenson on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 2:26 pm

Yep, I suppose winning majors by 15&8 shots back to back before going on to win the slam is quite astonishing!

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 2:35 pm

Austin Cook hasn't made a par yet and he's level through 4 holes!

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Post by sirbenson on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 2:42 pm

Moore's given away his two birdies plus one more!

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Post by wiretapper on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 2:50 pm

Moore another without a par but has gone from fast forward to reverse.

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 3:12 pm

Cook finally makes a par on 6 while Moore is still to make one.

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Post by sirbenson on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 3:49 pm

Fantastic recovery from Tiger at the first!

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Post by wiretapper on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 3:56 pm

Vijay on a mission, no one else doing anything. I appreciate it is still very early but are conditions difficult?

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 3:59 pm

Easy game for the old 'uns:
1st: Singh
2nd: O'Meara
3rd: Bar two!

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Post by sirbenson on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 4:54 pm

wiretapper wrote:Vijay on a mission, no one else doing anything. I appreciate it is still very early but are conditions difficult?

Flags on the front nine seem brutal....and there is a bit of wind, which I think will drop later on in the day

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Post by sirbenson on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 5:05 pm

Greens are already lightening!

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Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 5:18 pm

McLaren wrote:Super probably thinks a tatty porn mag is an Irish special interest category.
Laugh OK
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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 5:18 pm

I think it was quite cold for the first couple of hours of play. No strong wind in the forecast, but very low humidity could make the greens go from lightening to greased lightening.

O'Lazabal hanging in there . . . . . .

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 5:40 pm

There are birdies to be had on the back nine: The Wizard was +5 after 11 holes, now +1 after 16.


Ya never know which Marc Leishman is going to turn up . . . . . . .

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 6:27 pm

Finau has started his round; strong boy.

Plenty of red numbers being posted now - Jason Day having the worst of things among the top players so far.

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Post by super_realist on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 6:28 pm

Willett, give it up son.

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Post by McLaren on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 6:59 pm

Tiger starting to struggle a bit.
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Post by LadyPutt on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 7:08 pm

McLaren wrote:Tiger starting to struggle a bit.
You can say that again laughing
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Post by super_realist on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 7:09 pm

Let's hope he has an "MC" so we can get back to some grown up coverage and all those pathetic lickspittle "patrons" can go home.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 7:30 pm

Too many "pathetic lickspittle patrons" in the commentary box to allow that.
Plenty of time for him to retrieve his round though; have been a little surprised at the up-and-down nature of some of the scorecards, a number of golfers recovering dismal starts.

Kevin Chappell's 77 the biggest surprise on the downside for me so far. Thought he had a chance.

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Post by NedB-H on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 7:53 pm

Chappell was someone I was watching for the possibility of putting on a few quid, but his injury at the matchplay scared me off. But I’ve gone for Casey, Henley and Cantlay with my bets so it’s not going much better.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 7:59 pm

I can't see that there have been any eagles so far - perhaps the notion of lengthening #13 is a tad premature?

Par today seems to be about 74, but scores improving as the day wears on.
Nice recovery to par by Franny after being +3 very early doors.

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:02 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:I can't see that there have been any eagles so far - perhaps the notion of lengthening #13 is a tad premature?

Perhaps they spent too much money on expanding the place that they didn't have anything spare to spend on the crystal?

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Post by NedB-H on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:17 pm

Francesco needs a good week, done nothing this year. The low scorers starting to trip up on the back nine, Hoffman to lead on Thursday night again? Or will Wiesberger last all day? He’s got a half decent record here.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:18 pm

Sergio will be smashing crystal the way this is going, the pond will be full by the time he's through.

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Post by Just John on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:20 pm

Sergio Laugh

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Post by NedB-H on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:22 pm

Oh Sergio.....

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Post by sirbenson on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:24 pm

Yikes at Garcia

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Post by super_realist on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:25 pm

Mac been stabbing his Sergio doll?

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Post by sirbenson on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:26 pm

Cricket score from Sergio!

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:26 pm

In the 25 minutes so far, in the Woods threesome we've seen 4 shots from Tiger, four from Leish, none from Tommy, who by the way has birdied each hole they've (not) shown. Lickspittle doesn't do the w*nkers justice.

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Post by NedB-H on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:27 pm

To be fair if they’d lengthened the 15th like everyone suggests he wouldn’t have been getting that spin....

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:28 pm

Another bird for Tommy, but still not showing him. Gawd help us.

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Post by sirbenson on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:30 pm

Garcia writing more Masters history!

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Post by Diggers on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:31 pm

Oh dear, Sergio, oh dear.

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Post by Just John on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:31 pm

+10 for Sergio

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Post by GPB on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:34 pm

Garcia looks like he won't break 80. These past champs should not be playing.

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Post by sirbenson on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:35 pm

Haha GPB!!!

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Post by Just John on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:36 pm

+9 for Sergio

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Post by super_realist on Thu 05 Apr 2018, 8:39 pm

Stenson looking like he bought his glasses from the Sunday supplement in a newspaper. Terrible.

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