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Post by Afro on Thu 10 May 2018, 11:04 am

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Welcome  to the Miky Challenge League




This Week's Fixtures

Week 8
Melbourne City v Perth Morning Glory
Sydney FC v Melbourne Victory
Adelaide United v Brisbane Roar
Wellington Phoenix v Newcastle Jets
Central Coast Mariners v Western Sydney Wanderers





This Week's Key Deadlines

- 2 new Lawyers drawn on Tuesday
- Injuries drawn Wednesday
- 2 releases per week max
- Tactics due Friday




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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VM9eIonYMyXCXpQOBjAJylh3wihazcw8RKtLLHiD8HI/htmlview#gid=1996389080


Team_________Manager
Adelaide United_________Hero
Brisbane Roar_________Miky
Central Coast Mariners_________Olly
Melbourne City_________Twist
Melbourne Victory_________Afro
Newcastle Jets_________Nadz
Perth Glory_________Marky
Sid Knee CF_________Nando
Wellington Phoenix_________Bam
WS Wanderers_________Tino
Match_________Transfer_________Other
Fixtures/Results_________Lawyers_________Rules
Table_________Foreigns_________Youth Rules
Injuries_________Releases_________Press Conferences
Tactics_________Confirmation_________
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Re: Challenge League Homepage VI

Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Thu 17 May 2018, 4:21 pm

what was the date for the tm value cut off again lads
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Post by Afro on Thu 17 May 2018, 4:21 pm

13th March
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Thu 17 May 2018, 4:22 pm

cheers 'fro

Umtiti went upto 56m 9 days after that Sad
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Post by Afro on Thu 17 May 2018, 4:28 pm

Yeah, there were a whole load of updates around the 22nd. We couldn’t work out whether it was the start of a round of updates for all leagues.

So rather than freeze part way through a round of increases or wait for them all to be done, we opted to freeze prices at the end of season 1
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Post by BamBam on Thu 17 May 2018, 4:33 pm

Hence why I was so ready to swap him for Koulibaly angel

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Thu 17 May 2018, 4:37 pm

BamBam wrote:Hence why I was so ready to swap him for Koulibaly angel

Tbf I can wait till the end of the season lol, not exactly like I'll be lawyering him - and Umtiti is gonna be like 87 on Fifa 19
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Post by BamBam on Thu 17 May 2018, 4:52 pm

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Post by Hero on Thu 17 May 2018, 4:54 pm

And tbf to Umtitties he's been the best defender in the league so far.

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Post by Afro on Thu 17 May 2018, 4:55 pm

It was suggested that we would do this season as a FIFA trial and then start a fresh league with new lower rated teams.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Thu 17 May 2018, 5:03 pm

can we do championship teams
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Post by BamBam on Thu 17 May 2018, 5:04 pm

Hero wrote:And tbf to Umtitties he's been the best defender in the league so far.

It was my defensive system Whistle

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Post by Marky on Thu 17 May 2018, 8:36 pm

Afro wrote:It was suggested that we would do this season as a FIFA trial and then start a fresh league with new lower rated teams.

But it's not confirmed that's what we're doing. Surely it goes to a vote nearer the time.

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Post by Marky on Thu 17 May 2018, 8:36 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:can we do championship teams

China.

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Post by Afro on Thu 17 May 2018, 8:46 pm

Marky wrote:
Afro wrote:It was suggested that we would do this season as a FIFA trial and then start a fresh league with new lower rated teams.

But it's not confirmed that's what we're doing. Surely it goes to a vote nearer the time.

Yeah definitely needs to go to a vote. Mentioning it as it is worth bearing in mind we might reboot for anyone thinking of planning for another season
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Post by Hero on Thu 17 May 2018, 8:57 pm

Presume China will be in fifa 19

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Post by Afro on Thu 17 May 2018, 9:08 pm

I’d vote for Championship or a lower league. Depends what is on FIFA19. Really push the boat out and go for building from the bottom.

FIFA league makes that easier as you don’t rely on managers knowing players.
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Post by Marky on Fri 18 May 2018, 6:21 am

A Fifa League where we all start with an actual rubbish team puts a lot of emphasis on tactics early on.

The only problem is the reliance on transfermarkt.

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Post by Trebs on Fri 18 May 2018, 7:28 am

Marky wrote:A Fifa League where we all start with an actual rubbish team puts a lot of emphasis on tactics early on.

The only problem is the reliance on transfermarkt.

I told Hero this when it was set up. Fifa and transfermarkt are not compatible. In my opinion there should be some sort of cost based on current rating

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Post by Afro on Fri 18 May 2018, 7:52 am

I honestly don't see the difference between using TM on voting and using TM on FIFA.

On voting you were still able to buy players cheaper than their rating. All that changes is it is a FIFA rating not a personal subjective one.

In fact if anything TM is better with FIFA than a voting league is. On a voting league you were able to big up your players and actually get inflated ratings for your player.

FIFA rates players more accurately and less subjectively, so is in fact more realistic and more compatible with TM than a voting league
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Post by BamBam on Fri 18 May 2018, 8:09 am

I also disagree

The best and most consistent attacking player in the league over the first 7 weeks has been Willian - he's certainly not the highest rated or TM valued

You can see how TM and FIFA are compatible when you look at someone like Umtiti - he started this year's FIFA rated at 82, a decent centre back rating, and priced at £27m on TM

His performances this season have increased his live rating to 84, and he has seen two increases in TM to £36m and now £54m - as Olly said yesterday, he's probably going to be rated 86+ on FIFA 19

This seems like it works quite well to me. There will still be bargains available (Filipe Luis for £9m and an 86 rating spring to mind) but surely that is part of the fun of the game?

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Post by Trebs on Fri 18 May 2018, 8:10 am

Yeah but if you have a quantative system for rating players now, you should exploit that and come up with a system for buying players based on it.

My view is an 80 rated player should cost £10m, an 85 rated should be £30m and a 90 would be £100m. Or whatever it is, I'm sure it wouldn't take long to work it out

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Post by BamBam on Fri 18 May 2018, 8:14 am

It's meant to be fun not a spreadsheet exercise

I've enjoyed picking up bargain players as much as I have signing the big names

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Post by BamBam on Fri 18 May 2018, 8:18 am

You'd also lose some of the deals and discussions that are happening

Ie this player is rated 4 points higher, but the trade off is £10m TM value - which do the managers value higher at this point

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Post by Afro on Fri 18 May 2018, 8:19 am

I can see your point and where you are coming from Trebs.

Personally, I quite like the fact that it is realistic in the sense that you can get some better players cheaper because they are older. And to an extent older players are less of a benefit on FIFA as their stamina levels drop.

It is something that should be discussed and out to a vote when the time comes, and we go with the consensus approach.
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Post by Hero on Fri 18 May 2018, 8:58 am

The FIFA ratings as cost is pure and simply daft.
At the beginning of the season Mbappe was an 83, Jonas was also an 83.
Telling me that they should be available at the same price?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 18 May 2018, 9:08 am

We have this discussion about transfermarkt every discussed reboot, and everytime it's the best option for valuing players.............
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Post by Trebs on Fri 18 May 2018, 9:15 am

When I join the reboot I'll immediately get all the 80-something rated players that are available for less than a million.

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Post by Afro on Fri 18 May 2018, 9:18 am

Go for it. I think it's been proven in the games so far that it won't help you to do so.

With FIFA you really need a balance of ages, stamina etc
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Post by BamBam on Fri 18 May 2018, 9:19 am

Yep that's an option - as it is for everyone else in the league who also has two TPs a week

If we're looking at it as a long term league though, good luck with building on your squad when your max lawyer value is 1.1m

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Post by Hero on Fri 18 May 2018, 9:20 am

Good luck with your team of pensioners that are gassing and chasing shadows then.

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Post by BamBam on Fri 18 May 2018, 9:23 am

Anyway .. does some fancy running sheep / lemmings

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 18 May 2018, 9:36 am

ill set the questions if someone else can do results cos im out at most this PM
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Post by BamBam on Fri 18 May 2018, 9:37 am

Yea go on then I'll take in the answers

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Post by Marky on Fri 18 May 2018, 9:37 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:ill set the questions if someone else can do results cos im out at most this PM

I'lL sEt ThE qUeStIoNs If SoMeOnE eLsE cAn Do ReSuLtS cOs I'm OuT aT MoSt ThIs Pm

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 18 May 2018, 9:43 am

Sheep

1. Name me a variety of biscuit
2. Name me a member of England's world cup squad
3. Name me a goalscorer from last weeks Fifa games
4. Name me a Kanye West song
5. Name me a politician Trump has slagged off
6. Name me a bra size
7. Laurel or Yanny
8. Isreal or Palestine
9. Name me an african nation at the world cup
10. Name me a variety of shoe.

Answers to Bambam by 2pm
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Post by Hero on Fri 18 May 2018, 9:47 am

For 10 are you wanting brand or type?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 18 May 2018, 9:52 am

Type
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Post by TwisT on Fri 18 May 2018, 10:22 am

A costing system will never be manageable based on ratings. I prefer the TM way.

However, and I know next to nothing about Fifa but, could using the coin system work? Does it have to be £££?

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Post by Hero on Fri 18 May 2018, 10:42 am

Coin wise is difficult to track as it's constantly changing and as the season goes on the prices plummet.

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Post by BamBam on Fri 18 May 2018, 11:16 am

Sent my sheep answers to Hero, will start collating - only got them from Trebs and Hero so far

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Post by Marky on Fri 18 May 2018, 11:17 am

Just sent mine

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Post by BamBam on Fri 18 May 2018, 11:20 am

Got emm

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Post by Marky on Fri 18 May 2018, 11:26 am

I'd just like to say we should ban Olly from Sheep. His questions absolutely suck.

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Post by BamBam on Fri 18 May 2018, 11:27 am

The hoebag hasn't even bothered sending in his own answers

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 18 May 2018, 11:38 am

Marky wrote:I'd just like to say we should ban Olly from Sheep. His questions absolutely suck.

WelL mAYbE yOu SHoUld TAke SoMe rESPonSiBiliTY aNd DO thEm yOuRseLF nExT tImE
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Post by Marky on Fri 18 May 2018, 11:41 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
Marky wrote:I'd just like to say we should ban Olly from Sheep. His questions absolutely suck.

WelL mAYbE yOu SHoUld TAke SoMe rESPonSiBiliTY aNd DO thEm yOuRseLF nExT tImE

No need to play the blame game. Just have some creativity next time please.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 18 May 2018, 11:49 am

Marky wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
Marky wrote:I'd just like to say we should ban Olly from Sheep. His questions absolutely suck.

WelL mAYbE yOu SHoUld TAke SoMe rESPonSiBiliTY aNd DO thEm yOuRseLF nExT tImE

No need to play the blame game. Just have some creativity next time please.

I shall take on board your comments.
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Post by nadeem2099 on Fri 18 May 2018, 11:58 am

Questions 7 and 8 are poor showing. The rest are ok I guess.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 18 May 2018, 12:14 pm

Someone buy Jorge and Mercado off me plz
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 18 May 2018, 12:17 pm

Oh also reboot discussion wise, i always enjoyed the draft style (ie. pots of GKs, pots of RBs etc) - i'd be happy to help draw up stuff like that - and you could do it snake draft order, so whoever got 10th pick of GKs got 1st pick of RBs so on and so forth
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